Michael Mann Accuses the Trump Administration of Burying Climate Studies

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Mann has accused the Trump administration of trying to bury climate reports, because some reports don’t get their own press release.

Agriculture Department buries studies showing dangers of climate change

The Trump administration has stopped promoting government-funded research into how higher temperatures can damage crops and pose health risks.

By HELENA BOTTEMILLER EVICH
06/23/2019 05:04 PM EDT
Updated 06/23/2019 10:37 PM EDT

The administration, researchers said, appears to be trying to limit the circulation of evidence of climate change and avoid press coverage that may raise questions about the administration’s stance on the issue.

“The intent is to try to suppress a message — in this case, the increasing danger of human-caused climate change,” said Michael Mann, a leading climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University. “Who loses out? The people, who are already suffering the impacts of sea level rise and unprecedented super storms, droughts, wildfires and heat waves.”

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue, who has expressed skepticism about climate science in the past and allegedly retaliated against in-house economists whose findings contradicted administration policies, declined to comment. A spokesperson for USDA said there have been no directives within the department that discouraged the dissemination of climate-related science.

“Research continues on these subjects and we promote the research once researchers are ready to announce the findings, after going through the appropriate reviews and clearances,” the spokesperson said in an email.
“USDA has several thousand scientists and over 100,000 employees who work on myriad topics and issues; not every single finding or piece of work solicits a government press release,” the spokesperson added.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/agriculture-department-climate-change-1376413

Let’s see if I’ve got this right. Nobody is suggesting the Trump administration is suppressing publication of the studies, what Mann is complaining about is that taxpayer’s money is not being spent promoting and sensationalising every product of government employed scientists.

Why should government scientists get a free appeal to authority, just because they work for the government?

If the study is any good, if it is any use to anyone, it will get the circulation it deserves.

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Mark Broderick
June 25, 2019 10:08 am

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence….Got any Madam Manny ?

Sara
Reply to  Mark Broderick
June 25, 2019 2:04 pm

Higher temperatures?

70 degrees Fahrenheit = 21.111 degrees Celsius/centigrade

80 degrees Fahrenheit = 26.666 degrees Celsius/centigrade

It does not take a genius to be able to read a thermometer. Corn and soybeans and wheat like warmer temperatures. They thrive in it, as long as there’s enough moisture in the soil to support the plants.

If Mikey Mann is such a genius, you’d think he’d have this figured out by now, wouldn’t you?

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  Sara
June 26, 2019 2:32 pm

Unfortunately Sara there are 61 MILLION ACRES in the Heartland that are under water or with failed crops due to the RECORD COLD, FROZEN GROUND and EXCESSIVE RAINS due to GRAND SOLAR MINMUM and excessive cloud formation which Svensmark predicted.
As a minimum expect a spike in food prices especially meats because of hay and grain shortages.
As a maximum expect rationing of beef, pork and chicken by the Spring.
Browse the Ice Age Farmer videos on Youtube before they are censored.
I hope I’m wrong, but buy a freezer and start stocking up at these bargain prices.

Henry chance
Reply to  Carbon Bigfoot
June 27, 2019 5:06 pm

Kansas the bread basket is looking at wheat crop up 12 bushels per acre over last year.

HotScot
June 25, 2019 10:09 am

Isn’t that what an agricultural department is supposed to do?

Bury stuff.

Bryan A
Reply to  HotScot
June 25, 2019 12:21 pm

That is SO Bad It’s really GOOD (I may just borrow it from time to time)

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  HotScot
June 25, 2019 1:24 pm

Pretty close to the mark, HotScot.

Actually, a good agricultural department is supposed to be an expert on VAMPIRE studies.

They bury stuff, and it comes back bigger and better than before!

F1nn
Reply to  HotScot
June 26, 2019 12:14 am

Thanks HotScot!
Every day needs a good laugh! This was coffee from nose moment.

beng135
June 25, 2019 10:16 am

Trump is really gonna be concerned about what Mickey-Mann says…..

Yea, right — I’m sure he cares about dust-mites.

RHS
Reply to  beng135
June 25, 2019 11:03 am

Or the bit dust electronic docs can be buried under.

Sara
Reply to  beng135
June 25, 2019 2:15 pm

Mikey Mann is complaining about the following: 0.00C = 32.0 F and +0.01 C = 32.018 F.

When he explains why this invisible, intangible rise is such a threat, maybe I’ll listen to his silly arguments. He’s just sponging and casting lures to get attention, that’s all.

F1nn
Reply to  Sara
June 26, 2019 12:24 am

Five digits is much more than three.
Anyway, he´s a Pee h Dee.

chaswarnertoo
Reply to  F1nn
June 26, 2019 6:04 am

Piled Higher and Deeper, still the same sh1t…..

Steve Emmert
Reply to  beng135
June 25, 2019 7:15 pm

Or Dust Bunnies

June 25, 2019 10:18 am

“Mann is complaining about is that taxpayer’s money is not being spent promoting and sensationalising every product of government employed scientists.”

Not exactly, he’s only for promoting misleading studies that conform to his preconceptions.

Bryan A
Reply to  co2isnotevil
June 25, 2019 12:23 pm

Let’s see if I’ve got this right. Nobody is suggesting the Trump administration is suppressing publication of the studies, what Mann is complaining about is that taxpayer’s money is not being spent promoting and sensationalising every product of government employed scientists.

Why should government scientists get a free appeal to authority, just because they work for the government?

If the study is any good, if it is any use to anyone, it will get the circulation it deserves.

Isn’t that the same thing as Science by Press Release?

Gerry, England
Reply to  Bryan A
June 26, 2019 6:01 am

Yes. He knows full well that the lame legacy media no longer do journalism so will quote an inaccurate press release to the full having never read the report. By the time it is pointed out that the press release and maybe the report are flawed the media have moved on, so zero publicity.

Latitude
June 25, 2019 10:39 am

burying them?…..everyone is dragging them out and trashing them…LOL

c
June 25, 2019 10:44 am

How about refusing to provide data underlying climate studies or EPA decisions?

Curious George
June 25, 2019 10:44 am

How about refusing to provide data underlying climate studies or EPA decisions?

John Doran
June 25, 2019 10:45 am

The fraudstar in chief becomes the whinger in chief.

I look forward to the day this weasel gets the court verdict awarded against him vs Dr. Tim Ball.

Garland Lowe
June 25, 2019 10:46 am

Mann is not a scientist, he’s a politician.

DocSiders
Reply to  Garland Lowe
June 25, 2019 11:13 am

Mann is certainly political…but he’s not good enough to be a politician (who are the most disrespected people around… after broadcast “journalists” that is).

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  DocSiders
June 25, 2019 1:19 pm

Well …. his motto does seem to be “Whimper Fi” … 😉

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Garland Lowe
June 25, 2019 11:30 am

Please, he is a Pennsylvania State University Distinguished Professor.

That says a lot.

eyesonu
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 25, 2019 1:36 pm

They had a distinguished coach too.

David Chappell
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 25, 2019 2:38 pm

Anybody know where Penn State comes in the US and world ranking of universities?

On the outer Barcoo
Reply to  Garland Lowe
June 25, 2019 11:48 am

And politicians are like a bunch of bananas … all bent, all yellow and all hanging together.

Vuk
June 25, 2019 10:46 am

“Agriculture Department buries studies showing dangers of climate change”
Green lobby should be happy , many of the AGW reports are BS and make excexcellent manure.

mark from the midwest
June 25, 2019 10:48 am

Higher temperatures do not damage crops, and in many cases they are beneficial. The three major issues impacting viability of a crop are, roughly in order … 1) Too much or too little rainfall, the former around times for planting or harvest, 2) Late spring frost after plants have emerged or fruit trees are budded-out, 3) Washington bureaucrats who attempt to outlaw useful, safe pesticides and insecticides.

Joel O'Bryan
June 25, 2019 10:49 am

Most of those reports are simply self-licking ice-cream cones. They exist (were produced) for their own self consumption. They have no utility.

If Mikey wants to complain about scientific suppression, where was he when Obama DOE cronies fired Dr. Noelle Metting, the DOE’s Low Dose Radiation Research Program manager in 2014?

“Emails unearthed during the investigation “show a sequence of events leading to a premeditated scheme by senior DoE employees ‘to squash the prospects of Senate support'” for the radiation act, a move that lawmakers claim was meant to help advance President Obama’s own climate change goals.”

“The investigation concluded that “DoE placed its own priorities to further the president’s Climate Action Plan before its constitutional obligations to be candid with Congress,” the report states. “The DoE’s actions constitute a reckless and calculated attack on the legislative process itself, which undermines the power of Congress to legislate.
The committee further concludes that DoE’s disregard for separation of powers is not limited to a small group of employees, but rather is an institutional problem that must be corrected by overhauling its management practices with respect to its relationship with the Congress.”

source: https://freebeacon.com/politics/congress-obama-admin-fired-top-scientist-advance-climate-change-plans/

Hypocrisy is rich and thick in activist-pseudoscientists like Mann.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
June 25, 2019 11:58 am

Note the reference therein to the last president,
and the worst ever ==> #44 Barack Hussein Obama II

J Mac
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
June 25, 2019 12:37 pm

Barackward Obama is certainly ‘in the running’ for worst president ever. I nominate Woodrow Wilson as another candidate for the category.

Reply to  J Mac
June 25, 2019 4:10 pm

As bad as BHO and Wilson were, I have a few other nominees for “worst.” America has endured some truly awful Presidents, including:

● LBJ — sent a half million American troops to Vietnam, and then shackled them so that they couldn’t win. Instituted the “Great Society” welfare state which did little to combat poverty, but was utterly catastrophic for poor Americans’ family cohesiveness.

● Andrew Jackson — crusader for slavery and “Indian removal.” Appointed Roger Taney to the SCOTUS, who went on to write the infamous Dred Scott decision, which helped push the nation over the brink into the catastrophic Civil War. Founded the modern Democratic Party.

● James Buchanan — ideological successor of Jackson, presided over the dissolution of the Union and the start of the Civil War.

● Jefferson Davis — what, you don’t consider him an American President?

Reply to  J Mac
June 25, 2019 4:15 pm

Mods, this might be a duplicate; something strange happened when I was composing it, and I might have already posted an almost-complete version of it; if there are two, please just delete one of them, with my apologies! -DB

As bad as BHO and Wilson were, I have a few other nominees for “worst.” America has endured some truly awful Presidents, including:

● LBJ — sent a half million American troops to Vietnam, and then shackled them so that they couldn’t win, and got 58,000 of them killed. Instituted the “Great Society” welfare state which did little to combat poverty, but was utterly catastrophic for poor Americans’ family cohesiveness.

● Andrew Jackson — crusader for slavery and “Indian removal.” Appointed Roger Taney to the SCOTUS, who went on to write the infamous Dred Scott decision, which helped push the nation over the brink into the catastrophic Civil War. Founded the modern Democratic Party.

● James Buchanan — ideological successor of Jackson, presided over the dissolution of the Union and the start of the Civil War.

● Jefferson Davis — what, you don’t consider him an American President?

Ilma
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
June 26, 2019 1:08 am

To Mann, there is no hypocrisy, just right and wrong. He’s right and everyone who disagrees is wrong.

Robert of Texas
June 25, 2019 11:05 am

The “Climate Studies” are rife with odorous hydrogen sulfide fumes…Thank you President Trump for burying them. It was the only decent thing to do.

(‘Climate Studies’…what a way to mislabel propaganda.)

J Mac
June 25, 2019 11:07 am

This is about Michael Mann getting press release attention, nothing else! As a result of his climate change chicanery, he has lost much credibility and is sliding into scientific irrelevance.

drednicolson
Reply to  J Mac
June 28, 2019 10:59 am

Nothing distresses the narcissist more than being ignored.

Gary
June 25, 2019 11:19 am

Is this the same Michael Mann who favored suppressing the publication of research findings contrary to his own?

Just asking.

June 25, 2019 11:19 am

“Who loses out? The people, who are already suffering the impacts of sea level rise and unprecedented super storms, droughts, wildfires and heat waves.

Any person in a professional position who has a duty to supply correct information to influence public policy, who spouts these sorts of lies should be prosecuted for fraud.

Okay, I’m finally convinced now that Mann is a criminal, wrongfully protected by some sort of perversion of the law.

Jan E Christoffersen
June 25, 2019 11:20 am

The “USDA has several thousand scientists and over 100,000 employees”?!!? What?

Drake
Reply to  Jan E Christoffersen
June 25, 2019 12:12 pm

Yes. Time for a veto of any debt cap legislation, then lay off the swamp until the budget is balanced. No rehires and back pay.

Then there would be “skilled” workers available to fill some of the 7.4 million current job openings.

Craig
Reply to  Jan E Christoffersen
June 25, 2019 12:19 pm

To really appreciate the scope of the bloat, go to the top of the Washington Monument and look down at the size of the USDA and EPA buildings.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Jan E Christoffersen
June 25, 2019 12:20 pm
Stephen Philbrick
Reply to  Jan E Christoffersen
June 25, 2019 2:20 pm

I copied that phrase, intending to post it but you beat me to it. I understand that’s not the main point, but this sounds like a place to cut. I won’t even argue they aren’t working on useful projects, but how many could not be funded by industry?

PSU-EMS-Alum
June 25, 2019 11:20 am

The best part of Michael Mann is how much money he has saved me over the years.

I will not join the Alumni Association nor donate one dime to my college, and, by extension, my university while he is employed there.

jim heath
June 25, 2019 11:24 am

The day they bury Mann will be the day he contributes anything of value to the Earth.

Don Perry
Reply to  jim heath
June 25, 2019 6:23 pm

Nah, that will put hazardous waste into the soil.

Right-Handed Shark
June 25, 2019 11:25 am

Well, if you want to know about suppressing messages or burying studies, he’s just the man to ask…

rah
June 25, 2019 11:33 am

If the press were interested they would dig the stuff up and hype it. They aren’t interested though because “climate change” doesn’t sell.

They’ve got better things to concentrate on. Things like giving air time to some wacko bimbo claiming she was raped by Trump and then saying she doesn’t exactly define rape only as being thrown down and ravaged. Now THAT’s important for the press you know.

Bryan A
Reply to  rah
June 25, 2019 12:34 pm

By that same arguement the American people have been raped by President Obama’s policies regarding the EPA Endangerment finding on CO2
Carbon Pricing
High Price unreliable renewables
Food for fuel (strengthened Ethanol mandates)
2 X $500,000,000 given to UN as Climate Reparations

Petit_Barde
June 25, 2019 11:33 am

Mann is right, no administration should suppress alarmists messages, and particularly, they should expose to the World how great and honest a climate scientist Mann is :

From :
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/12/02/climate-advocate-outrage-over-global-cooling-congress-tweet/

Extract from the Guardian (as we know, a renowned scientific journal) :

“Why is 2016 smashing heat records?

… according to Professor Michael Mann, the director of Penn State Earth System Science Centre. He said it was possible to look back over the temperature records and assess the impact of an El Niño on global temperatures.

“A number of folks have done this,” he said, “and come to the conclusion it was responsible for less than 0.1C of the anomalous warmth. In other words, we would have set an all-time global temperature record [in 2015] even without any help from El Niño.”

In order to see if this bold claim can stand actual data, see http://www.climate4you.com/

The Climate clown show must go on !

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Petit_Barde
June 25, 2019 1:01 pm

What percent of the general population and political leaders and Presidential candidates understand the importance of that crazy statement or how to check it?

Joel Snider
June 25, 2019 11:48 am

Not to hijack the thread, but I just heard that Oregon Senate leader has declared House Bill 20-20 – Cap and Trade is ‘dead’ – they do not have the votes in the senate.

While this may only be a temporary stay – I have no doubt they’re going to resurrect Dracula – but I wanted to take the moment to personally thank WATTS for helping get this story out, sufficiently to bring public awareness as to how damaging this was really going to be.

I’m actually inspired by the courage our out-numbered senators have shown in fighting this.

‘Do not go gentle into that good night… rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Thanks everybody.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Joel Snider
June 25, 2019 12:57 pm

What about the Special Session the Gov talked about?

Joel Snider
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 25, 2019 1:12 pm

We’re waiting to see. Peter Courtney’s announcement just came up the pipe just over an hour ago.

It would be foolish to trust any sort of good faith on the part of him or Kate Brown.

J Mac
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 25, 2019 5:50 pm

I would not trust Oregon State Senate President Peter Courtney or Gov. Kate Brown any further than I could throw them. They will use any procedural maneuver and political deceit available to achieve their economy destroying extreme socialist agenda. The minority Republicans have acknowledged this, ‘dropped the gloves’, and are fighting their agenda with every measure available.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel Snider
June 25, 2019 1:36 pm

“I’m actually inspired by the courage our out-numbered senators have shown in fighting this.”

Curb your enthusiasm, Joel. I heard one of those Oregon-state Republican senators say this morning in an interview on Fox News that he believed climate change was something that had to be dealt with, but not the way the Democrats wanted to do it, with a Carbon [sic} tax.

He is correct on tax policy but a little shaky on climate change. We still have some work to do.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 25, 2019 2:11 pm

Agreed. And the rototiller is still turning. And I hope they don’t decide to just wander back into the capital.
But I had serious doubts we’d get this far. I’m trying to encourage them as much as I can.

steve case
June 25, 2019 11:53 am

Sara
Reply to  steve case
June 25, 2019 2:09 pm

You know, Steve, just out of pity, you could have posted a spew warning about that image !

ResourceGuy
June 25, 2019 11:53 am

Is he going to sue?

ryan
June 25, 2019 11:56 am

barry at 09:40 AM on 25 June 2019
Is Nuclear Energy the Answer?
Here is an extract regarding Wind turbine fatalities for comparison(world wide i’m afraid)
http://www.caithnesswindfarms.co.uk/accidents.pdf

Of the 192 fatalities:  120 were wind industry and direct support workers (divers, construction, maintenance, engineers, etc), or small turbine owner /operators.  72 were public fatalities, including workers not directly dependent on the wind industry (e.g. transport workers). 17 bus passengers were killed in one single incident in Brazil in March 2012; 4 members of the public were killed in an aircraft crash in May 2014 and a further three members of the public killed in a transport accident in September 2014.
Moderator Response:
[DB] Comparing global supposed wind turbine fatalities to supposed similar numbers in just the US is disingenuous.
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Non sequitur snipped.

June 25, 2019 12:12 pm

“The intent is to try to suppress a message — in this case, the increasing danger of human-caused climate change,” said Michael Mann”

The message has been wrong for 30 years, why not stop this scamming message instead?

John F. Hultquist
June 25, 2019 12:14 pm

Michael Mann and Helena Evich (politico ?) could provide a few examples of the research that has not gotten the circulation and press coverage.
But I also note a lack of originality and specificity.
. . . suffering the impacts of sea level rise and unprecedented super storms, droughts, wildfires and heat waves.”

This is standard boilerplate phrasing of activists and the United Nations, and the programmed children. This “scientist” that has received much funding from the tax payers and is considered a “leading climate scientist”, has poor communication skills.

CMS
June 25, 2019 12:47 pm

There is one serious and useful thing that the Government could do to right this ship. Fund a lot of Climate Science which will look into natural variation. When the money starts flowing into showing that natural variation actually exists and researchers can make money on demonstrating that, money will begin to turn this ship around. Right now natural variation studies are seen as denialist studies. But it is really hard for scientist, though not environmentalists, to suggest that adding to the knowledge and supporting research projects are bad things Right now environmentalists and climate research are hand in hand.

Flight Level
June 25, 2019 12:50 pm

(the government.) “has stopped promoting”

Why the only science that desperately needs government promotion has to be climate related ?

I mean, face it, have you ever heard string theory physicists asking for congress hearing and lobby for law enforced validity of their findings ?

Or leftard math guys going down the streets to block commuters and claim extinction?

George Daddis
June 25, 2019 12:51 pm

The people, who are already suffering the impacts of sea level rise…..

Dr Mann, please supply a list of names of those people who are “already suffering the impacts of sea level rise”.
While you are at it, please provide a specific description of each of those “impacts”.

CMS
June 25, 2019 12:57 pm

One of the best way to turn this ship around is for the government to provide a lot of funding for research into natural climate variability. Right now legitimate research into climate variability, aside from the ones which say it is unimportant, is viewed as denial propaganda. However, were the gov to pour money into such studies, universities and researchers will follow that money. Right now environmentalists and climate researchers are marching hand-in-hand after the government and foundation funds. If the money flowed the other way, we would begin to see a divergence and a healthy tension in academia between those who believe it is all man made and those who think they have other ideas. It was, after all, a stroke of genius when the IPCC was chartered to study MAN MADE climate change, not climate change in general.

June 25, 2019 1:22 pm

“Bury”? “Suppress”? Well, I guess Mann can’t really complain about people hiding things, can he? That’s probably not a word that Con Mann Mike likes to use, anymore:

https://sealevel.info/climategate.html#naturetrick

Anyhow, he must surely know that manmade climate change has not worsened the impacts of sea level rise, storms, & droughts. He’s just lying.

Coastal sea-level rise hasn’t detectably accelerated since the 1920s:
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Droughts have not worsened, either. (In fact, they’ve actually slightly declined, in frequency and severity):
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Plus, higher CO2 levels mitigates harms from droughts, by making crops more water-efficient and drought-resistant.

Hurricanes have not worsened:
comment image

Tornadoes have declined:
https://www.woodtv.com/weather/bills-blog/strong-to-violent-tornadoes-in-the-u-s-trending-downward/

ryan
June 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Here are more threats to free speech!

21:52 PM on 25 June 2019
Is Nuclear Energy the Answer?
Barry,
A bit of advice from someone who has posted at SkS for a long time:
If you continue to complain about the moderation they will ban you forever. It is a very hard job to moderate and they get little in return for their hard work. If you limit your comments to what you think is important you will be more effective in the end.
The facts speak for themselves. Adding moderation complaints detracts from your posts.

ryan
June 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Here are more threats to free speech!

21:52 PM on 25 June 2019
Is Nuclear Energy the Answer?
Barry,
A bit of advice from someone who has posted at SkS for a long time:
If you continue to complain about the moderation they will ban you forever. It is a very hard job to moderate and they get little in return for their hard work. If you limit your comments to what you think is important you will be more effective in the end.
The facts speak for themselves. Adding moderation complaints detracts from your posts.

ryan
June 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Here are more threats to free speech!

21:52 PM on 25 June 2019
Is Nuclear Energy the Answer?
Barry,
A bit of advice from someone who has posted at SkS for a long time:
If you continue to complain about the moderation they will ban you forever. It is a very hard job to moderate and they get little in return for their hard work. If you limit your comments to what you think is important you will be more effective in the end.
The facts speak for themselves. Adding moderation complaints detracts from your posts.

Bruce Cobb
June 25, 2019 1:39 pm

The people are already suffering the impacts from the non-stop climate hype and propaganda, and the higher costs of electricity and pretty much everything because of said climate hype and propaganda. They are already suffering the impacts from having countless acres of land covered by hideous bat-and-bird blending machines busy driving up their price of electricity. They are already suffering the impacts from the science and democracy-killing ideology of Warmism.
Lord, haven’t we suffered enough?

Coeur de Lion
June 25, 2019 1:46 pm

Sea level rise is an easily dismissed ‘alarm ‘ and discredits all the other Mannite scares . Why has everyone forgotten Climategate and the shocking behaviour of Mann and his conspirators? ‘Distinguished’ by fraud, but loved by the BBC and it’s ‘Climate – Change the Facts ‘ TV feature.

Tom Abbott
June 25, 2019 1:47 pm

From the article: “The intent is to try to suppress a message — in this case, the increasing danger of human-caused climate change,” said Michael Mann, a leading climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University. “Who loses out? The people, who are already suffering the impacts of sea level rise and unprecedented super storms, droughts, wildfires and heat waves.”

Here’s Michael Mann blowing the climate change situation completely out of proportion. He couldn’t prove anything he said in that paragraph above. Who is suffering the impacts of sea level rise? 3mm? Who is experiencing unprecedented super storms, or droughts or wildfires or heatwaves?

Michael Mann, as usual, is just making things up out of thin air and attributing them to CO2.

So if you want to complain about the Media lying about CAGW, you first have to complain about their sources, like Michael Mann, and his fellow travelers on the CAGW promotion tour. Unsubstantiated claims is the name of their game.

Michael Jankowski
June 25, 2019 2:14 pm

Sounds like we need to created a “CENSORED” directory.

Mann and his cronies go to all lengths to fight FOIA requests…now he is not only all about public availability but wants it to be promoted.

Alasdair
June 25, 2019 2:26 pm

In Helena Bottemiller Evich’s tweet: the “how” should have been “ whether”
Otherwise the research presumes the conclusion and should not be funded.

I suspect a lot of research projects suffer from this syndrome.

RB
June 25, 2019 2:34 pm

Michael Mann should not talk about immoral actions. He’s the one that fabricated the infamous hockey stick graph of suddenly rising temperatures by falsifying data to fit his narrative. He has no place to complain now that the shoe is on the other foot.

Reply to  RB
June 25, 2019 5:56 pm

It’s worse than that, RB. Six times as bad, to be precise.

Mann was not “the one who committed the deed. It was a group effort, a true international conspiracy.

Michael Mann was the one who Phil Jones credited with the idea for the “trick,” but it was Jones who actually spliced instrumental measurements into graphs of proxies, substituting real temperatures in place of the plainly wrong proxy-derived temps, even matching the colors and smoothing the splice points to disguise the splices, to “hide the decline” in the proxies which (would have) discredited their methodology. Ray Bradley, Malcolm Hughes, Keith Briffa, and Tim Osborn were all in on it, too.

If it had been only Mann, that would have been bad enough. But six of the world’s “leading” climate scientists, at four different universities, on two continents, were all in on the fraud. That shocked me. It showed that the corruption ran wide and deep in the troubled field of climate science.

Loydo
Reply to  Dave Burton
June 26, 2019 12:47 am

“the corruption ran wide and deep”

Gee, you’ve really talked yourself into a twisted reality there Dave. Most scientists actually concord with Mann’s research.

“six of the world’s “leading” climate scientists, at four different universities”

Y’know, just maybe they’re right and your wrong. Are you leaving any room for doubt?

Reply to  Loydo
June 26, 2019 8:44 am

And that’s “Exhibit B.”

The fact that so many climate activists are untroubled by flagrant fraud is more proof of how wide and deep the corruption is in the field of climate science.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave Burton
June 26, 2019 5:39 am

Thanks, Dave, for reminding all of us as to how we got here. A few dishonest people in positions of authority have conspired together and caused all this CAGW insanity.

None of these dishonest people would want me on their jury.

Alasdair
June 25, 2019 2:40 pm

This is a typical tactic of the GreenBlobs in that they accuse the opposition of practices which they rigorously indulge in themselves, without justification.

Curtailment of sceptical research is rife, right across the board.

KT66
Reply to  Alasdair
June 26, 2019 8:18 am

Exactly right. It was Mann and his cronies who were doing all they could to prevent the publication and peer review of any academic paper they did not approve of, as exposed in climategate emails. And it continues.

Bruce of Newcastle
June 25, 2019 4:42 pm

Amusing, seeing that Michael Mann has been burying his own study which shows that nearly half the warming last century was natural.

Reply to  Bruce of Newcastle
June 25, 2019 6:00 pm

I think this is the link that you intended, Bruce.

Bruce of Newcastle
Reply to  Dave Burton
June 26, 2019 12:18 am

Dave – Thanks. I should’ve looked at the comment properly before I hit the button.

It’s his paper which shows the persistence of the ~60 year cycle, which contributed something like 0.4 C to global temperature in the IPCC century 1906-2005.

Reply to  Bruce of Newcastle
June 28, 2019 1:21 pm

Well, “his” paper is kind of a stretch. Mann was listed as the fifth of five authors. I think that, on most papers, the first one, or two, or perhaps three authors are the ones who did most of the work.

KTM
June 25, 2019 7:23 pm

“If the study is any good, if it is any use to anyone, it will get the circulation it deserves.”

In this case, the studies all get top billing by the media goons, who have no capability to evaluate the usefulness or correctness of the studies.

This is an orchestrated event, period. They only cite Trump as a pretext to supporting their pre-determined agenda to pump these stories beyond what they deserve.

They act like a government press release is more powerful than a week-long 24/7 news cycle pumping these carefully selected bullet point studies. Meanwhile, the same media is utterly silent on the inappropriate citation by Democrat committees of old disproven bunk press releases by the UCS hacks.

Loydo
June 26, 2019 12:30 am

Not really much of a journalist are you Eric. More like a cheer-leader for the opposite: censorship. Then you insert Michael Mann’s name in the headline to make it more click-baity. Here is what you could have posted if you had any commitment to science, you obviously don’t. The real story is about scientific censorship.

“The administration’s moves flout decades of department practice of promoting its research in the spirit of educating farmers and consumers around the world”

“Since Trump took office in January 2017, the Agricultural Research Service has issued releases for just two climate-related studies, both of which had findings that were favorable to the politically powerful meat industry.”

“in the case of the groundbreaking rice study USDA officials not only withheld their own prepared release, but actively sought to prevent dissemination of the findings”

“Researchers say the failure to publicize their work damages the credibility of the Agriculture Department and represents an unwarranted political intrusion into science.

“Why the hell is the U.S., which is ostensibly the leader in science research, ignoring this?” said one USDA scientist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid the possibility of retaliation. “It’s not like we’re working on something that’s esoteric … we’re working on something that has dire consequences for the entire planet.”

“You can only postpone reality for so long,” the researcher added.

He got that bit wrong – more like reject reality.

drednicolson
Reply to  Loydo
June 28, 2019 11:21 am

Concern troll is concerned.

Ed Zuiderwijk
June 26, 2019 1:00 am

Unprecedented super storms.

The superlatives keep on coming and coming. Next: totally unprecedented super duper hyper storms.

Meaning: sometimes the wind blows and keeps you from doing things.

John
June 26, 2019 4:51 am

Mann is sneakily asking for a pay raise.

PaulH
June 26, 2019 5:39 am

“Government scientists” – I think that says it all. ;->

Rod Evans
June 26, 2019 9:01 am

Hey I have to share this novel idea with you.
We all accept (hopefully) the uneconomic nature of wind turbines when compared to virtually any other source of energy conversion device.
However, a friend who lives on the shore line is having trouble with sea gulls becoming interested in nesting on the roof of his house. The noise and mess from gull droppings is not something you can ignore. The solution would be to simply shoot the birds, but they are a protected specie here in the UK (honest) so that is not allowed. However following the excellent examples of culled birds we have seen in and around wind farms, the obvious answer is to erect a bird chopper, sorry I mean wind turbine on his roof. That will produce the occasional electron flow but more importantly remove the sea gulls from the roof, permanently.
Has anyone else used this option to control sea gull infestation?
I would be interested to hear of working examples, would a 1 MW unit be sufficient to do the job?

E J Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Rod Evans
June 26, 2019 10:18 am

Put on menu.

Johann Wundersamer
June 29, 2019 7:14 pm

“The intent is to try to suppress a message — in this case, the increasing danger of human-caused climate change,” said Michael Mann, a leading climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University.
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The free press does not always have the opportunity to give reliable data or facts. The free press will always appeal to press freedom and information protection, it will rather give hints.

There is always the possibility to compare statistics from recognized institutes and releases.

https://www.google.com/search?q=world+statistics&oq=world+statistics+&aqs=chrome.

Johann Wundersamer
June 29, 2019 7:56 pm

Not that much Off Topic:

The German greens advertise with arbitrarily selected arguments for “CO2 taxes”. German companies are joining, hoping for competitive advantages.

For the German taxpayer that would be a catastrophe.
On the other hand: the German taxpayer is one-sided, inappropriately informed and is willing to join the mass – “science consensus”.

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-huawei&ei=GyIYXZ2GOOuHwPAPoPugmAU&q=deutsche+gruene+CO2+steuer&oq=deutsche+gruene+CO2+steuer&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.

Johann Wundersamer
June 29, 2019 8:00 pm

Not that much Off Topic:

The German greens advertise with arbitrarily selected arguments for “CO2 taxes”. German companies are joining, hoping for competitive advantages.

For the German taxpayer that would be a catastrophe.
On the other hand: the German taxpayer is one-sided, inappropriately informed and is willing to join the mass – “science consensus”.

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-huawei&ei=QyIYXcWZBc2qrgS6iJOQBA&q=german+greens+CO2+taxes&oq=german+greens+CO2+taxes&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-huawei&ei=GyIYXZ2GOOuHwPAPoPugmAU&q=deutsche+gruene+CO2+steuer&oq=deutsche+gruene+CO2+steuer&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.

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