Why we do nothing to prepare for climate change

Reposted from the Fabius Maximus website

By Larry Kummer, Editor

Summary:  The results are meager from thirty years of debate about a public policy response to climate change. There is little support in America for action, the IPCC’s AR5 has disappeared from the news, much of the public no longer trust climate scientists, and debate has almost stopped. The weather will determine future policy, not our foresight. But we can see what went wrong and so do better next time – while we wait to see the price we pay for our folly. This is a drastic, and much darker, revision of a post from 2015.

“Thus an extraordinary claim requires ‘extraordinary’ (meaning stronger than usual) proof.”
— From “Zetetic Ruminations on Skepticism and Anomalies in Science“ by Marcello Truzzi in Zetetic Scholar, August 1987.

Scientists tell the UN about the coming disaster in “When Worlds Collide” (1951).
They put forth the data and allowed debate about it.

Presenting at the UN. From "When Worlds Collide" (1951).

Why doesn’t America lead the fight against climate change?

Why does anthropogenic climate change rank low on the list of public policy priorities in most surveys (e.g., these by Gallup and Pew Research) Since James Hansen brought global warming to the headlines in his 1989 Senate testimony, climate scientists have had almost every advantage. Their warnings are broadcast with large marketing budgets (e.g., the expensive propaganda video by 10:10). They have all the relevant institutions supporting them, including NASA, NOAA, the news media, academia, foundations, charities, and even funding from the energy companies (and here), They have support from the majority of scientists.

The other side, “skeptics”, have some funding from energy companies and conservative groups, with the heavy lifting being done by volunteer amateurs, plus a few scientists and meteorologists.

What the Soviet military called the correlation of forces overwhelmingly favors those wanting strong action. Public policy in America should have gone Green many years ago. Why didn’t it?

The burden of proof rests on those warning the world about a danger requiring trillions of dollars to mitigate. That is even more so for remedies proposed by activists, such as a massive decrease in our incomes (e.g., a 9-hour work week) and drastic revisions to – or even abandoning – capitalism (e.g., journalist Naomi Klein’s This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate and Pope Francis’ fiery speeches condemning global capitalism). How have climate scientists met this challenge? Why have activists, building on their work, not convinced the public to support radical action?

This is not about the validity of scientists’ predictions about climate change, but why America has ignored them.

How did scientists alert the world to a catastrophic threat?

Know your place

We have seen this played out many times in books and films since the publication of When Worlds Collide in 1932. Scientists see a threat. They go to the world’s leaders and state their case, presenting the data for others to examine and question. They never say things like this …

“In response to a request for supporting data, Philip Jones, a prominent researcher {U of East Anglia} said ‘We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it?’”

– From the testimony of Stephen McIntyre before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce (the July 2006 hearings which produced the Wegman Report). Jones has not publicly denied it.

The public has been told that most forms of extreme weather increased in magnitude or frequency during the past three decades. That is false (data here, and here), a fact well-documented by the IPCC’s reports. (I recommend Judith Curry’s new essay about extreme weather.) Steve McIntyre has documented the efforts of climate scientists to keep vital information secret, often violating the disclosure policies of journals, universities, and government funding agencies.

In these films, scientists don’t destroy key records, which are required to be kept and made public. They don’t force people to file Freedom of Information (FOI) requests to get key information. Their response to FOIs is never like this…

The {climategate} emails reveal repeated and systematic attempts by him and his colleagues to block FOI requests from climate sceptics who wanted access to emails, documents and data. These moves were not only contrary to the spirit of scientific openness, but according to the government body that administers the FOI act were “not dealt with as they should have been under the legislation”.  {The Guardian}

In these films, leaders of science-related institutions state the facts and welcome debate. In climate science they have exaggerated the threat and worked to suppress debate.

“The time for debate has ended”
Marcia McNutt (former editor-in-chief of Science, now President of the NAS) in “The beyond-two-degree inferno“, an editorial in Science, 3 July 2015. We are already one degree over pre-industrial temperatures. A rise of another degree would not be an “inferno.”

Climate science’s leaders crush dissenters (no matter how well-founded the objections). In this they have the enthusiastic support of activists in the media and other institution (some, not most, climate scientists are activists). Eminent climate scientists such as Roger Pielke Sr. and Judith Curry have had their reputations smeared. For an extreme example, see the campaign against Roger Pielke Jr. in response to his article in 2015 at Nate Silver’s “538” about findings of the peer-reviewed literature and the IPCC about costs of weather-related disasters. These were inconvenient facts and so had to be suppressed. Which they were. Four more years of data further validated the IPCC’s conclusions, yet journalists still report fake news about increased costs of weather disasters. Ross McKitrick tells this sad history in the Financial Post: “This scientist proved climate change isn’t causing extreme weather – so politicians attacked.“

Perhaps worst of all was the deliberate misrepresentation of the policy debate. Activist scientists said that skeptics “denied” the existence of climate change (which is false, and mad), or that they “denied” the existence of anthropogenic global warming and climate change (true only for an extreme fringe). The key questions were and are about the timing and magnitude of anthropogenic climate change – and its future. On those factors depend the nature of the appropriate policy response. This determined smearing of skeptic’s questions short-circuited the policy debate, and eventually poisoned it.

During the past few years, many climate scientists and activists have doubled down on these failed tactics. Stronger denunciation of critics. More extreme headlines such as “Halfway to Hell” in the New Scientist.

These actions by scientists erode trust in their work. This is not how people act when they have a strong case, especially with such high stakes. The warnings about climate change are not a Potemkin Village. But many climate scientists act as if it is one. The resulting gridlock in the public policy machinery is a natural result.

775 degree warming

Case study of a dysfunctional debate: the pause

Starting in 2006 climate scientists began to notice a slowing in the rate of atmospheric warming since the 1997 – 1998 El Niño.

By 2009 there were peer-reviewed papers about it (e.g., in GRL), and the pace of publications quickly accelerated (see links to these 29 papers). In 2013 the frontier of climate science shifted from debate about the existence of the pause to its causes (see links to these 38 papers). That year the UK Met Office published a major paper: “The recent pause in global warming.

From 2008 to 2016, many scientists gave forecasts for the duration of the pause (see links to 17 forecasts). The pause ended with the El Niño warming spike in 2014 – 2016.

While scientists investigated this unexpected phenomenon, activists wrote scores – probably hundreds – of articles not just denying that there was a pause in warming, but mocking as “deniers” people citing the peer-reviewed literature about it. See these by astronomer Phil Plait at Slate (here, here, here and here). The leaders of climate science, even those writing papers about the pause, remained silent while activists lied. While an impressive display of message discipline, it blasted away the credibility of climate science for those who saw the science behind the curtain of propaganda.

There were rare and mild exceptions, such as this in Nature Climate Change, August 2014. Note the scare quotes around pause, referring to is as “so-called” despite that term’s frequent use in the literature. Also, note that scientists “dismiss” journalists’ questions about the pause, despite the hundreds of papers about it.

“Climate science draws on evidence over hundreds of years, way outside of our everyday experience. During the press conference, scientists attempted to supplement this rather abstract knowledge by emphasising a short-term example: that the decade from 2001 onwards was the warmest that had ever been seen. On the surface, this appeared a reasonable communications strategy. Unfortunately, a switch to shorter periods of time made it harder to dismiss media questions about short-term uncertainties in climate science, such as the so-called ‘pause’ in the rate of increase in global mean surface temperature since the late 1990s.

“The fact that scientists go on to dismiss the journalists’ concerns about the pause – when they themselves drew upon a similar short-term example – made their position inconsistent and led to confusion within the press conference.”

Climate Change Couture

By Catherine Young and The Apocalypse Project.

The decay of climate science

Qui tacet consentire videtur ubi loqui debuit ac potuit.
– Roman adage: silence means assent when he ought to have spoken and was able to.

To convince people to fight climate change, they must trust climate scientists. While events during the first 25 years of the campaign made some people skeptical of the need for action, events in the past five years drastically polarized public opinion so that compromise became impossible.

The IPCC’s Working Group I reports (the physical sciences) are the “gold standard” description of climate research and the most reliable statement of scientists’ consensus. But by 2011 activists were saying they were “too conservative.” This became a widespread response by activists to the release of AR5 in 2013 (e.g., Inside Climate News and Yale’s Environment 360). Now activists explicitly attack the IPCC’s integrity, advocating it twist the science to support activists’ agenda. For example, see this March 2019 paper in Bioscience. (Here is a technical, if narrow, look at the issue from a risk management perspective.)

With little pushback by climate science leaders or their institutions, activists ran wild, making claims with little or no basis in science. Fear-mongering became their tool to gain public support. For example, see …

Some activist scientists endorse these claims. Journalists give even wild claims priority coverage. So we get scores of deadlines for action – climate “tipping points” – during the past 30 years, like trolleys passing by. And we get a stream of stories like those described in these posts …

  1. Weather porn about Texas, a lesson for Earth Day 2019.
  2. Terrifying predictions about the melting North Pole!
  3. The Extinction Rebellion’s hysteria vs. climate science.
  4. Daily stories of climate death build a Green New Deal!
  5. Activists hope that fake news about droughts will win.

Activists have succeeded in convincing those people who see climate policy as a means to enact their leftist agenda. They have convinced those who love doomster stories: doom from pollution (1960s), from overpopulation (1970s), from resource exhaustion (1980s), from peak oil (2000s). So the media overflow with people saying things like this …

“If we don’t fix it, then, the Earth will be uninhabitable for future generations.”
— “Early Warnings” by Michelle Nijhuis in the NY Review of Books.

Activists have terrified many young people (the young are always susceptible to simple exciting stories), as in this example of successful indoctrination of children for political gain.

“A student in Wendy Petersen Boring’s climate-change-focused class said she woke at 2 a.m. and then cried for two solid hours about the warming ocean. …Petersen Boring, an associate professor of history, religious studies, women and gender studies at Willamette University in Oregon, has been teaching about climate change for a little over a decade. In that short time, she has watched her students’ fear, grief, stress and anxiety grow.” {From CNN.}

As a group, scientists respond to these exaggerations and misrepresentations of their work with silence. Few defend the IPCC against claims of excessively conservative analysis. Rarely do scientists give even mild rebukes to activists’ climate stories (which are usually ignored by journalists who did not want to ruin the narrative). This silence allowed activists’ stories to displace the IPCC’s assessment reports, despite the vast work to produce them, and dominate the news. Scientists describing the consensus were blown off the news by the thrilling claims of activists.

This is too deep a subject to fully document and explain here. See my posts About the corruption of climate science, and the follow-up The noble corruption of climate science. Also see these articles by Roger Pielke, Jr.

  1. An example of climate activists at work that shows why they lost.
  2. An example of climate activists at work that shows why they lost.
  3. Institutional decay in climate science.
  4. More misreporting of experts’ reports.

Broken stone with "Trust" carved in it.

ID 37813605 © Lane Erickson | Dreamstime.

Consequences of a broken climate debates

“We don’t even plan for the past.”
— Steven Mosher (member of Berkeley Earth; bio here), a comment posted at Climate Etc.

Largely as a result of climate scientists’ actions, the US will take no substantial steps to prepare for future climate change. This political gridlock means that we will not prepare even for the inevitable re-occurrence of past extreme weather.

The weather will determine who “wins” the political debate, and at what cost to America – large or small. All that remains is to discuss the lessons we can learn from this debacle so that we can do better in the future.

“Sooner or later, everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.”
— Attributed to Robert Louis Stevenson.

For More Information

Climate science is yet another American institution in decay. For more about this trend, see A new, dark picture of America’s future.

For an alternative perspective on these matters, see “Losing Earth” by NYT journalist Nathaniel Rich in the NYT Magazine. Expanded into a book: Losing Earth: A Recent History. See this excerpt. It is a carefully curated history, with all the inconvenient facts omitted. It is all heroes and villains, suitable for indoctrinating children.

Ideas! See my recommended books and films at Amazon.

If you liked this post, like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter. For more information see The keys to understanding climate change and especially see these…

  1. How climate scientists can re-start the public policy debate about climate change – test the models!
  2. Follow-up: more about why scientists should test the models.
  3. A story of the climate change debate. How it ran; why it failed.
  4. The 5 stages of grief for the failure of the climate change campaign.
  5. Let’s prepare for past climate instead of bickering about predictions of climate change – Doing something is better than nothing.
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To learn more about the state of climate change see The Rightful Place of Science: Disasters & Climate Change by Roger Pielke Jr., prof at U of CO – Boulder’s Center for Science and Policy Research (2018).

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June 15, 2019 10:03 am

“To convince people to fight climate change, they must trust climate scientists.”

No.

First the alleged climate scientists must keep to their disciplines!
1) Alleged climate scientists assume preferred conclusions that they coach with waffle words.
2) Alleged climate scientists then leap from their assumptions to predictions of disasters; in a world where reliable accurate two week weather forecasts are unusual. Even with accurate 2-week forecasts, the forecasts for the second week are usually broad generalities.

Alleged climate scientists are not soothsayers; their predictions border on bunkum.

Nor have alleged climate scientists invested serious science and research into definitive causes and mechanisms. Their promoting loose associations into correlated causations lets the alleged scientists to assume mantles of omniscience allowing them to push specific solutions.

Leaving everyone with a touch of common sense wondering just how climate scientists became omnipotent deities able to solve imaginary world problems.

Financial investments towards keeping the CAGW scam going are stunningly large. Which stands to reason; if a $trillion dollars is spent on climate research and political solutions, then a significant portion of that $trillion can be spent silencing opposition voices.

Bringing us back to alarmist climate researchers;
Some are true believers, in a fashion. Many of Jim Hansen’s early papers included Hansen harping about how the climate was not cooperating. Hansen truly believed his alarmism, to the point that he was willing to subvert scientists and data to back up his beliefs. i.e. their belief is a religion requiring adherents and converts.

Others, believe they are doing the right thing; not that the climate is truly suffering from too much CO₂, but that solutions they propose are correct for humanity; i.e. Noble Cause Corruption.

Still others, are in the alarmist camp because they receive far more publicity, fame and money than they ever would have as mediocre weather forecasters. i.e. glory hogs.

Quite a few of the alleged climate scientists combine two or more reasons for their advocacy.

Research necessary to develop true solutions to climate problems requires solid proof of causation in all situations and conditions; plus a full understanding of the entire mechanism causation follows.

Then and only then can engineers investigate, design, test and implement possible solutions.
Yet, in this alleged climate science environment, every alarmist scientist already knows what solutions will solve the claimed problems.

Un-mentioned are negative repercussions to proposed solutions.
Rather than acknowledge and seek to circumvent negative repercussions, alarmist scientists refuse all negatives. They’d rather send eagles, raptors, carrion birds into extinction than admit their heavily pushed and subsidized solutions are unreliable disasters. After all, they’d only blame renewable caused extinctions on climate change and mankind; then they will wash their hands.

Outside of the climate scientists are the NGOs, Politicians and many pity ploy alleged charities that depend upon greater and scarier stories to keep their coffers full of donations or voters. None of these folks/organizations care about reality, they are in it mostly for the money and voters, some expect glory too.

e.g.:

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres (shown) declared that so-called “climate action” offers a “compelling path to transform our world.” Even your “mind” must be transformed, he said. Many other proud socialists, communists, and globalists have also called for using the man-made global-warming hypothesis to transform the world. And they are not kidding.”

e.g. 2:

The newest TIME magazine cover features United Nations chief António Guterres standing in water off the island nation of Tuvalu, which the outlet called “one of the world’s most vulnerable countries” to global warming.

The photo, taken during Guterres’ four-country tour of Pacific nations in May, is meant to illustrate one point — that island nations are sinking in the face of global warming-induced sea-level rise.”

Except Guterres ignores this recent science:

Al Gore Humiliation: NASA Study Confirms Sea Levels Are FALLING

Guterres is pushing socialism and globalism, which is Euro speak for global socialism. Neither the science or reality matters, only his using climate change to force world submission into socialism.

J Mac
June 15, 2019 10:12 am

RE: “Why doesn’t (The United States of) America lead the fight against climate change?”

The USA does lead the fight against ‘Climate Change’. Forty years of flailing exaggerated claims and failed predictions of impending AGW doom have sufficiently educated the majority of American citizens to the inescapable conclusion that ‘Climate Change’ is a science fiction fraud, fronting for a socialist political agenda. The USA is fighting the nonexistent problem of Climate Change through derisive rejection!

Every year, polls are taken to assess the concerns of US citizens and how they prioritize those perceived problems. Each year, ‘Climate Change/AGW/Man Made Global Warming/yaddayadda’ is shown to be of the lowest of priorities. We elected (finally) a President that recognizes the will of the American people and is acting on it. He is leading the fight against Climate Change chimera…. and we are applauding and backing his efforts! The USA has real, large, and urgently pressing problems that must be addressed now. Focusing on our real priorities is how we Make America Great Again!

Terry Oldberg
Reply to  J Mac
June 16, 2019 4:50 pm

A. model makes predicrions if and only if the argument that is made by this model is logically sound but in this case the argument can be proven to be logically unsound.

Christopher Chantrill
Reply to  Terry Oldberg
June 16, 2019 5:48 pm

First off, Mr. Oldberg, what “model” are you talking about?
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Second, what “argument” are you talking about?
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Lastly, please provide us your proof that it is logically unsound.

Reply to  Terry Oldberg
June 16, 2019 5:57 pm

LMFAO: “predicrion”

June 15, 2019 10:23 am

This author sounds like a true believer who can’t understand why other “believers” aren’t doing more.
He is like some Social Revolutionary after the Bolshevik takeover in Russia, being thrown into a ditch to be shot, unbelieving at the betrayal by his revolutionary comrades. Don’t they realize that the SR’s are the most pure communists of all?
Only fools believe this narrative, and they are useful tools. They will be dealt with when the time comes.

J Mac
June 15, 2019 10:46 am

Love the ‘2 degree guarantee’ on the lede picture!

James Francisco
June 15, 2019 10:47 am

My biggest concern of this distorted science is that if a real foreseeable existential threat is discovered by scientists that could be averted by a large expensive project, it won’t be because too many scientists have damaged their credibility and will not be believed.

Robert of Texas
June 15, 2019 11:00 am

We prepare for changes all the time, just not in the manner that activists recognize as prudent.

When there is a new “disaster” like flooding due to rain or hurricane, the area is generally rebuilt with more controls, higher dikes, and raised surfaces. This is by definition preparing for future change since we wouldn’t do it if we didn’t expect the conditions to reoccur.

Personally, I wish we would prevent building up areas near the high risk coasts (that is coasts likely to be hit by exceptional strength storms) – turn all that land into Federal park land over time. Just buy up ruined property and let the people build further inland – no more insurance to build at the coast. Whether the boundary be 3 miles or 5, it would certainly help reduce capital damage and make for a more pleasant beach or wildlife area. (Note: Existing large cities I presume we want to adapt, not move, so raise the surface area as new buildings are put in, larger/better dikes, better water and flooding controls, etc.)

If rich people want to keep their beach-front property, they get to pay for all repairs when it gets knocked down – no state or federal money what-so-ever. If they ever decide to sell, they have only the Federal Government to sell to.

The same principle could be applied to near fresh-water areas that keep flooding. Either raise up the land that is built on or return it to a natural state. You choose to live in a flood prone area, you pick up the tab. You plant in a flood prone area, its your loss – no government refunds. (Note: I am saying “flood prone”, meaning areas that have repeatedly flooded…not an area that has not flooded before and then experiences a fluke flood. Defining flood-prone I leave to the reader and possible implementers of such a regulation)

All of this is common sense – which seems by definition to mean our government is incapable of achieving it.

In any case, this “adaptation” could occur over the period of 50 years, there is nothing to panic us into performing such an action over night.

Marty
June 15, 2019 11:26 am

There is a limit to many times someone can scream that the world is coming to an end before people stop listening. Nuclear war, global warming, Y2K, peak oil, financial collapse, incurable diseases, acid rain, DDT, population explosion, athlete’s foot – just call in the next ten minutes and we’ll double our offer and throw in this automatic nose picker for free. Have your credit card ready.

Col Mosby
June 15, 2019 11:28 am

My belief is that the worst part about this whole global warming business is not so much how much is manmade but rather the idiotic solutions that have been offered by the majority activists. In this regard I believe that molten salt small nuclear reactors are the future of energy for every reason one can think of , especially its superior economics. I believe that, all things equal, economics trumps
everything else and will motivate the replacement of just about every power generation technology (save hydro, existing conventional nuclear) with molten salt nuclear. IN other words, if everyone calmed down, the issue of too much CO2 and other harmful emissions will be laid to rest by simply following the path to the most economical means of power production, which also happens to be the safest. Expect commercialization mid-late 2020s

mwhite
June 15, 2019 11:29 am

Problem, predictions were made within living memory(people have seen them fail)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4iNwUkT1bY

The scare stories are for the young.

June 15, 2019 11:55 am

I want the CO2 so I can turn it into jobs and money. https://youtu.be/RQRQ7S92_lo

James Francisco
June 15, 2019 11:56 am

Has anyone else turned on their fossil fueled heater today like I just did here in central Indiana USA?

Wiliam Haas
June 15, 2019 1:22 pm

The Earth’s climate has been changing for eons and it will continue to change whether mankind is here or not. Current climate change is taking place so slowly that it takes networks of sophisticated sensors, decades to even detect it. Do not mix up weather cycles with true climate change. Currently we are still warming up from the Little Ice Age much as we warmed up from the Dark Ages Cooling Period more than 1500 years ago. The climate change we have been experiencing is typical of the Holocene that has been taking place for the past 10,000 years.

The reality is that, based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one can conclude that the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So even is all of mankind stopped the burning of fossil fuels altogether, the effort would have no effect on the Earth’s climate.

Even if we could somehow stop the Earth’s climate from changing, extreme weather events and sea level rise would continue because they are both part of the current climate. We do not even know what the optimum global climate is let alone how to achieve it. Mankind has not been able to stop one extreme weather event let alone change the earth’s climate. We would be much better of trying to improve the global economy then wasting time and money trying to affect the Earth’s climate.

The AGW conjecture seems quite plausible at first but upon closer inspection one finds that the AGW conjecture is based on only partial science and is full of holes. For example, the AGW conjecture depends upon the existence of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by trace gases in the Earth’s atmosphere with LWIR absorption bands. Such a radiant greenhouse effect has not been observed in a real greenhouse, in the Earth’s atmosphere or anywhere else in the solar system for that matter. The radiant greenhouse effect is science fiction so hence the AGW conjecture is science fiction as well. It is all a matter of science.

June 15, 2019 1:25 pm

An activist warning the public about dangerous climate change.

Holthaus is a meteorologist.

The Greenland ice sheet is currently going through a major melting this week, covering almost half its surface — unprecedented in its extent for this early in the year.

This has not happened before. pic.twitter.com/vvh3scodLy
— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) June 13, 2019

Here is the graph his shows of Greenland Melt extent 1981 – 2010: https://mobile.twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/1139234563400634368/photo/1

The good news is that he shows this using basic statistics, too seldom done in climate science (vs. the almost valueless “record high/low” and “record since XXXX”. But there are two points that illustrate why 30 years of activists’ warnings have had so little effect.

First, how does a meteorologist state never happened in the ~40-year record as “never happened before”? That’s a material error, one often made by climate activists.

Second, there are thousands – tens of thousands – of such weather metrics taken daily. Looked at as a whole, a ~3 standard deviation spike is commonplace. Looked at in isolation it is cherry-picking – perhaps the most common fallacy (of both sides) in the public climate debates. But I seldom see this mentioned.

icisil
Reply to  Larry Kummer
June 15, 2019 2:05 pm

If Holthaus is a climatologist, Bill Nye is a scientist. Having a degree in meteorology doesn’t make one a meteorologist.

icisil
Reply to  icisil
June 15, 2019 2:59 pm

Oops, I meant meteorologist, not climatologist.

June 15, 2019 1:32 pm

Most of the comments here miss the point of the post.

(1) The question here is not are climate scientists’ warning correct. It is why they have had so little effect on US public policy after 30 years, despite having almost every advantage in the debate.

(2) Comments conflate two very different things: warnings by mainstream climate scientists – such as the official statements of the IPCC, NOAA, and NASA – and warnings by activists (exaggerating or misrepresenting the work of mainstream climate scientists – or just making stuff up). That activists have come to dominate the public debate is another aspect of climate scientists’ failure.

Similarly, comments conflate recommendations by mainstream climate scientists with the more extreme recommendations of activists.

Dave Miller
Reply to  Larry Kummer
June 16, 2019 8:05 am

So you reject the possibility that enough people believe the “Climate Scientists” are indeed wrong is the basic cause of the “lack of action” you lament?

Quotes chosen carefully.

Tom Abbott
June 15, 2019 2:27 pm

From the article: “To convince people to fight climate change, they must trust climate scientists.”

I think the problem here is that the CAGW promoters have cried “Wolf” too many times and people look around and they don’t see a Wolf. The weather looks like business as usual to them.

In order to convice someone to fight climate change you first have to show some evidence that climate change is an issue and that humans can change it. There’s no evidence for any of this.

And btw, the global temperatures have been cooling for the last three years even while CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere. The CAGW claims are looking less likely by the day.

Maybe it’s the chill in the air that keeps people from taking CAGW seriously.

old engineer
June 15, 2019 3:24 pm

It is hard to know what to make of such a confused jumble of thoughts. Apparently the author thinks it is erudite. I think it is just confusing. Even the title premise is not correct.

If you think that just because the Trump administration pulled the US out of the Paris Accords, and the U.S. EPA no longer uses “sue and settle,” that nothing is being done in the US to destroy the economy in order to counter the perceived treat from CO2, you are not paying attention.

Hundreds ( the number I remember is 400) of US cities now have “climate action plans” to make their city “carbon neutral” by 2050, either in place, or under development. Most cities have a “Department of Sustainability” that has receive large grants from NGO’s to develop these plans. These departments have worked with the likes of the Sierra Club and local activists to come up with economy crushing plans under the guise of “saving the planet.

Of course, if you live in the UK, or Germany, or Australia, you are already living under economy crushing plans that are supposed to save the planet, so you know that something is being done, and it is not good.

To ask why nothing is being done, is to be uninformed in the extreme, The real question is why are we permitting these economy crushing plans to go forward, when there is so little hard evidence that they are needed.

Roger Knights
Reply to  old engineer
June 15, 2019 11:42 pm

“Hundreds ( the number I remember is 400) of US cities now have “climate action plans” to make their city “carbon neutral” by 2050, either in place, or under development. Most cities have a “Department of Sustainability” that has receive large grants from NGO’s to develop these plans. These departments have worked with the likes of the Sierra Club and local activists to come up with economy crushing plans under the guise of “saving the planet. … To ask why nothing is being done, is to be uninformed in the extreme,”

Yes, the extremist/alarmists are winning and will continue to win. I’ve already made some comments upthread in the same vein.

Part of the fault lies with the TV networks, which have failed their public duty (especially public networks like PBS and NPR) to host extensive debates on the issue. They should be entirely defunded for this continuing and inexcusable sin.

markopanama
June 15, 2019 4:03 pm

As to why we do nothing about climate change. There are a bunch of reasons, but here is one:

Elementary game theory tells us that no person or country will put itself at a disadvantage relative to another. That is why treaties and such are so hard to negotiate. Humans fight wars, they do not all get together around some grand idea, unless it is how to defeat the next guy. If there is advantage to be gained, people will fight for it.

Nations exist to provide benefits to their citizens, not the the citizens of other countries, especially ones they don’t like. Climate change, whatever the cause, creates winners and losers.

If Canada gets a warmer climate and prosperity from a longer growing season, are they going to agree to some fictional climate action to reverse their good fortune just because Australia is now drier? Not likely. There is zero possibility of any global climate action.

Ditto for large scale personal or national action. Will Bob and Sally give up their new Chevy Tahoe for bicycles? Anyone who does is seen as a fool by the rest. Australia, one of the chief weepers and wailers is in fact the largest exporter of coal in the world – 46% of global in 2018. More than twice as much as next biggest, Indonesia. Australia has announced it will no longer contribute to the Green Climate Fund. Indonesia is threatening to leave the Paris Accord altogether because the EU is trying to ban palm oil.

And just check out the status of the Paris Accord Green Climate Fund. By 2020, there were supposed to be distributing $100 billion per year. Since it started, they have only collected around $4 billion, built a dandy new office building for themselves and have only actually distributed around $500 million, of which 30% is UN overhead. Their major project is restoration of a hydro system in Africa, which the other member states are bitching about and threatening to mutiny because they didn’t get the money. Only three of the 45 supposed donors have forked over more than a token amount.

Politicians make grand promises that they have no intention of keeping, especially if doing so will harm their chances of holding onto power.

Posa
June 15, 2019 4:58 pm

“Activist scientists said that skeptics “denied” the existence of climate change (which is false, and mad), or that they “denied” the existence of anthropogenic global warming and climate change (true only for an extreme fringe). ”

Well, let’s see.

If the IPCC says there is no increase in Extreme Weather for more than a century;
And tide gauges don’t show any trend for accelerated rise in sea levels;
Sea surface temperatures were cooler than thought until Tom Karl “warmed them up”;
And global temperatures over almost 40 years are increasing at a rate barely above 1 degree C, and actually warming rates are decelerating since 1979– even though CO2 levels (overwhelmingly from natural sources) rose substantially over the past four decades

Then what the hell is “Climate Change”? Please define… and what role, if any, have humans played at all in this nebulous thing called “Climate Change”? It’s not an “extreme fringe” to ask such questions ’cause all I’m hearing from non-catastrophic climate scientists is that insufficient data exist to detect a human signal in most aspects of the climate record.

Posa
Reply to  Posa
June 15, 2019 6:40 pm

“Activist scientists said that skeptics “denied” the existence of climate change (which is false, and mad), or that they “denied” the existence of anthropogenic global warming and climate change (true only for an extreme fringe). ”

Well, let’s see.

If the IPCC says there is no increase in Extreme Weather for more than a century;
And tide gauges don’t show any trend for accelerated rise in sea levels;
Sea surface temperatures were cooler than thought until Tom Karl “warmed them up”;
And global temperatures over almost 40 years are increasing at a rate barely above 1 degree C per century, and actually warming rates are decelerating since 1979– even though CO2 levels (overwhelmingly from natural sources) rose substantially over the past four decades

Then what the hell is “Climate Change”? Please define… and what role, if any, have humans played at all in this nebulous thing called “Climate Change”? It’s not an “extreme fringe” to ask such questions ’cause all I’m hearing from non-catastrophic climate scientists is that insufficient data exist to detect a human signal in most aspects of the climate record.

June 15, 2019 5:57 pm

How do we prepare for climate change?

Do nothing that costs any significant money until the people who are warning about climate change demonstrate they are capable of making reliable predictions.

June 15, 2019 6:16 pm

LK, one last comment: After reading many of the above comments, I think your question should be, have the actions of some climatologists and extremist now made it impossibke to DISCUSS possible climate changes, effects, and options?

Consider that three years ago, California was experiencing an extreme drought. Scientists, not just activists, quickly proclaimed it was the result of GHGs ‘tipping’ a drought-prone area into a permanent drought, the New Normal. IIRC, the science presented here trashed those claims, brought up the historical mega-droughts, lack of empirical evidence, etc. Of couse, the drought ended, we rejoiced at the catastrophists once again looking absurd, and moved on.

Now imagine if this whole climate change farce had never arisen. No Gore, no Nye, no wind turbines or EVs. What then would the discussions have been on a SCIENCE site? Perhaps, is the drought a return of a mega-drought? Are there any identifiable precursors? Evidence of a recurring, somewhat predictable cycle? Then perhaps discussions on how such a drought could be accommodated. A water pipeline to Lake Michigan? Very deep wells? Towing icebergs? Desalinization plants – how many and how to power them. Perhaps there would be a discussion on the costs and impacts of relocating millions or what to do about agriculture.

But I don’t remember seeing such discussions. We were all distracted by the nonsense of manmade warming, and that is because of the tactics of some climatologists and their acolytes.

Reply to  jtom
June 16, 2019 8:40 am

jtom,

“now made it impossibke to DISCUSS possible climate changes, effects, and options?”

Climate change is discussed endlessly. The media overflow with discussion.

“Now imagine if this whole climate change farce had never arisen. No Gore, no Nye, ”

This is about the behavior of climate scientists. Not politicians and TV showpeople.

Reply to  Larry Kummer
June 17, 2019 12:32 pm

I do hope you meant that tongue-in-cheek. Climate change is only discussed in the media in sense of “What should we do about climate change?” — meaning catastrophic anthropogenic climate change — therefore treating it as a given, not something under discussion. The other topic of discussion in the media is “How horribly should we treat the heretics that don’t believe in catastrophic anthropogenic climate change?” — also treating it as a given, and apparently not remotely interested in any other POV.

June 15, 2019 8:00 pm

What about using the IPCC very words against them. When they say as I
believe AR5 says, that the weather come the 30 year climate is simply too
chaotic for any conclusions to be able to be drawn from it.

So circulate where possible, plus the numerous “”Deadlines” since the
1970 tees, plus the scientists who told us that the “”Ice Age is coming “,
then changed to Global warming. Then how Global warming got changed to
Climate Change, which now has evolved into Extreme weather etc.

There is lots of material for use since the 1970 tees.

Hopefully the economic facts of ever higher energy prices will get through
to the Politicians as is happening here in Australia with a near recession
situation. Whilst fortuity with the possible exception of the State of Tasmania,
we live in a warmer land than Europe or North America and Canada, but
we do feel the cold following our very hot summers. So we have high cost
electricity bills resulting from Air Conditioners in the Summer and heating
in the Winter.

MJE VK5ELL

Robber
June 15, 2019 9:27 pm

Why should we prepare for possible climate change based on scenarios stretching out to 2100, versus preparing for extreme weather that does occur occasionally but unpredictably? Perhaps if you believed in extreme scenarios like extinction by 2030 then you would change your lifestyle today.

Perry
June 16, 2019 1:11 am

Why do we do nothing to prepare for climate change? Really! How many billions have been wasted on solar panels & wind turbines by the west, whilst China & India continue to import African & Australian coal? Teresa May, not content with screwing up Brexit, wants her legacy to be zero emissions by 2050, at a cost exceeding £1 trillion.

There is a rather more important issue at hand. President Xi Jinping is using today’s high-tech tools, such as mass video surveillance powered by artificial intelligence, to enforce his rule. An intelligence service law from 2017 obliges all ‘Chinese organisations and citizens’ to ‘support, aid and co-operate with the work of the national secret service’. Already, the impact on individual life is phenomenal. At railway stations in cities like Guangzhou and Wuhan, for instance, entry is only allowed to people once their faces have been scanned and checked against a police database. And this is just the beginning.

The citizens of Hong Kong understand the extent of the state’s reach. During the protests last week there were long lines at the metro ticket machines because people didn’t want to use their rechargeable Octopus cards for fear of leaving a digital trail that could connect them to the protest.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7143749/Under-eye-dragon-reality-modern-China-face-tracked.html

The Chinese leadership will brook no dissent as they modernise their country. The Greens in the west would leap at the chance to silence debate about climate science using the same technology & weaken the USA, the EU etc., with their craziness. They are Useful Idiots, a pungent phrase usually attributed to Lenin. They are driven by Pathological Altruism, believing that they know how to run our lives better than us and believing the Western Guilt stories. Some qualify as members of the Lunatic Fringe.

Reply to  Perry
June 16, 2019 8:38 am

Perry,

“Why do we do nothing to prepare for climate change? Really! How many billions have been wasted on solar panels & wind turbines by the west,”

Let’s replay the summary: “There is little support in America for action …”

This post discusses American public policy, not the “West’s.” Really.

Sara
June 16, 2019 5:40 am

Got hit by the pessimist bug, huh?

Try spending some time at a fishing pond where you may or may not take home a bunch of blue gills or a couple of trout, like my friend who goes there with his fishing tackle, an ice chest (or a couple of thermoses) and spends the day there watching the wind blow ripples across the lake surface.

Really, seriously, this climate frenzy is a fad and a scam to get money from the government, and it will pass. It’s part of a cycle, and ALL cycles have a beginning, a middle and an ending, and this one is no different. This loud, squawking clamor over data results that are inappropriately applied to get more grant money – and remember it’s a grant, not wages – has led the press to create a loud, squawking mob very similar to the loud, frenzied mobs at rock concerts and wrestling matches: they don’t care who gets hurt, they just want the noise, the excitement and the hubbub.

Lighten up, Francis. Take a chill pill and go fishing, even if you don’t catch anything.

Enginer01
June 16, 2019 6:24 am

I married a wonderful woman who introduced me to the serious top of values clarification.
One cannot argue that the world suffers from lack of good realization of the values effects of our decisions.

It is easy to say that if the NEXT guy would only…hardly ever, “If I did…”. This being said, consider that raising the standard of living of exploding populations leads to reduced family size, and more hope for the future.
Torturing our children with fear of climate change has had the same effect, only our of fear for their future.

These two areas, ie good courses in values clarification and getting the socialist out of public education would go a long way towards insuring a good future for our planet.