Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Stew Green – It just keeps getting funnier.
‘We have lost Australia for now,’ warns climate scientist in wake of election upset
The unexpected victory of conservatives in Australia’s election is bad news for the future of global climate action.
JOE ROMM MAY 18, 2019, 3:27 PM
“Australians elected someone who once brought a lump of coal into Parliament urging us to dismiss the warnings from climate scientists, and to dig up more coal instead,” Professor Stephan Lewandowsky, an Australian cognitive scientist, told ThinkProgress in an email. “There is little doubt that his government will do precisely that.”
“We have lost Australia for now,” warned Penn State climatologist Michael Mann in an email. “A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species,” he said.
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Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/we-have-lost-australia-warns-climate-scientist-scott-morrison-upset-92008fabb597/
A sad day for the climate establishment – but a great day for the rest of us.
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They are banking on the continuing brainwashing in schools and universities to take them over the line in the future.
The only thing that got them over the line this time was billionaire Clive Palmer’s personal $60M campaign against the opposition. In a knife-edge election that was decisive.
Really? Nothing to do with the ALP wanting to tax the living daylights out of retirees etc etc? Qld voters sent a VERY strong message to the ALP.
Don’t you think advertising works?
Not as much as Clive owing ordinary QLDers some $70 million in entitlements.
The very fact that he was spending $80 million on advertising absolutely disgusted them!
Some people fall for it…
If it did Clive would have a seat. It seems to depend on who is selling the message.
You mean like advertising and a totally censored media convinced occupants of the old Soviet states they were living in Utopia? No, it didn’t. The sillier advertising gets and the more hysterical the claims made (climate crisis indeed!), the less Jill Public believes.
If Clive’s advertising actually worked he might have actually won a seat somewhere, he got nothing.
Clive’s advertising was about as effective as Getups both monumental fails.
As per Patrick MJ, Labor has no-one to blame but themselves.
Palmer preferences did not win the Libs the election ,that’s total rubbish and Palmer managed to steal a few votes from the Socialist Labor .
LdB is on the money.
Economist, Judith Sloan, commented yesterday that the problem for Labor was not the size of the target presented by its range of policies – it was that so many of the policies in that range were bad policies. One such bad policy was the proposed attack on self funded retirees through a retrospective change in dividend imputation rules which would have reduced the flow of income from carefully planned investment portfolios.
A particularly barking mad policy was the plan to mandate, after a short adjustment period, that 50% of annual new car purchases were to be electric vehicles. In a largish country with a dispersed smallish population living mainly on the coastal fringes such a policy might have made sense if the electricity grid was up to the task. But years of poor governance by both Labor and Liberal governments has produced an Australian electricity grid which is rundown and unreliable. The capacity of the electricity generators to provide reliable baseload power has been reduced substantially by replacing coal and gas generation assets by relatively unreliable wind and solar assets.
There has been much controversy in Oz about the Liberal Federal government approval of the large Adani coal mine in central Queensland. The Qld state Labor government has been dragging its feet on providing the environmental and bird protection approvals necessary for the mine to go ahead. During the election campaign attempted the impossible by appearing to agree with the Adani critics who live in the Southern states and the Adani supporters who live in Qld.
Not surprisingly the Labor party lost almost all of its Lower House seats in Qld.
lol,
weird comment. !
NOBODY take Palmer seriously.
A noisy rasping sound is about all the effect he had.
Nonsense – the thought of paying taxes without these taxes being for a sensible purpose was what caused the victory. If the opposition had only been able to specify a good reason for more tax, most people probably wouldn’t have minded. But just “Fight climate change” is too vague and airy-fairy.
Oh, and the Ozzie electorate. You forgot about the deplorables. They are awakening all around the world. Progress in phasing out elections, or rather outsourcing constituents in the NWO has ground to a halt. They hit a big bump in 2016.
Try Green Slime Bob Brown’s convoy of soy latte sippers driving into Qld to protest against Adani. The hostility that group of inner-city Southerners engendered is what won Qld for the LNP. Good job Bob!
Nothing to do with Unis etc it was Russian interference. Scomo is a Russian agent. We need a Royal Commission appointed.
Collllluuuusion 😉
It’s MoSco!
Punching above our weight!
Bragging aside, Australia has had a dedicated ‘green’ party for decades.
It is called (wait for it) The Greens and over 90% of voters prefer someone else.
You haven’t lost Australia, Michael. You never owned it.
What did the notorious Lew have to say?
He said he was so glad John Cook was onside. 😉
Note to
MessrsMessers Mann and Lewandowsky…You lost the World (war) once you tried to equate Skeptics with Deniers and Moon Hoaxers.
Throwing out Ad-Hominem attacks against those who argue your point is incorrect
Messer Lewandowsky should look up and study the precept of Psychological Projection.
Let’s hope he is right, though history suggests otherwise.
97% of the voters supported the loser?
Well said Craig. The greens are considered a dirty brown around my home town where the “deplorables” want jobs, not stupid inner city luvvies who cannot actually define what the problem is anyway, turning up in gas guzzling SUVs to tell the locals why they must make sacrifices so the latte set can continue to have their smashed avocado on toast while smugly considering that they have taken action on climate.
The “deplorable” moment in the Oz election was when the smug shadow treasurer, Chris Bowen, told Australians that if they didn’t like higher taxes on their retirement incomes , don’t vote for us. We took his advice and didn’t.
This is a win for ordinary Australians and many of those who voted for the Morrison government were considered rusted on Labor.
I am really enjoying the expressions on the faces of the ABC commentators who are invariable left wing despite a requirement that they be even handed while on the taxpayer dollar.
The only good greens, are in a salad.
It was a better result then the opposite but the basic infrastructure of climate fraud remains intact. “We must do something about human co2 ” is still left on the table instead of being completely dismissed as pseudoscience for a statist agenda.
The US leading the exit on the UN Climate Protocol and denouncing the IPCC as politically contrived is worth a victory lap. We’re no where near that kind of win. Greenshirt pandering still the norm.
Well said!
When will climate elites realise the cost of living is and always will be more important
When will the climate elites realize…?
When they start practicing what they preach we should do.
Or in other words it ain’t going to happen.
Maybe they need a ‘People’s Vote” in Australia too, the voters clearly didn’t understand what they were voting for. That’s how democracy works, right? If you don’t get the result you want, you get a do-over.
Voters and the population in general are tuning out the alarmists. What do they expect, with their track record of being 100% wrong.
Except that the Australian King of AGW scepticism former Prime Minister and WUWT pin-up Tony Abbot was absolutely trounced with a swing of 20% by a candidate whose only policy was on climate change.
Some lines from Scott Morrison’s “climate change” policy:
– We will reduce emissions by 26-28 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030,
– $2 billion Climate Solutions Fund will ensure we meet our 2030 Paris commitments,
What? It turns out they are alarmists? Who’d have thought.
That was all *with* their biggest sceptic.
Don’t forget the millions GetUp! spent in Warringah (no tunnel now, lol@leftytwaddle) and the hundreds of loyal useful idiots who helped get the downhill skier over the line into uselessness.
What odds the rerun being like Wentworth?
well at least as a sockpuppet she wont(hopefully) be doing much but blathering greenfroth, and will be ignored.
getup sure put a huge effort into corrupting the results there.
and a moaning email from them kept using the term first nations peoples…
which is NOT an aussie term so some loking into backers n funding is long overdue re getup
get up -and leave- is the preferred option;-)
dont let the door catch you on the way out.
So… If, as you claim, Morrison completely agrees with them on “climate issues” – why the loud wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments coming from Lewandowsky and Mann?
Is it, perhaps, NOT anything to do with “climate issues”? Perhaps it is that he is not supporting a Marxist-style dictatorship (with them as the Commissars of Climate)?
“If, as you claim, Morrison completely agrees with them”
Huh? I just posted excerpts from their policy. Take it up with Scott.
Your god Mann said that Australia is lost, take it up with him.
He is talking a $2billion fund. Not a ‘Climate Tax’ (whatever n ame they might use).
He is also saying that is sufficient to meet our commitments to the Paris Agreement
which is peanuts compared to what Mann & Co want and Labor would have delivered.
Finally, now he has a majority and not a caretaker PM but in his own right having won an election, there is nothing to say some policy changes/modifications wont be made.
Lets see what the final numbers are and who is in the Cabinet, that will give us a better idea what direction he will steer in.
Apparently 2 billion over 10 years was a compromise to try to placate both sides by “not taking a sledge hammer to the economy”. But that amount, or the methods, are not considered anywhere near enough by the alarmists:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/26/the-government-thinks-were-idiots-and-is-not-serious-about-reducing-emissions
http://www.environment.gov.au/climate-change/government/emissions-reduction-fund
You keep telling yourself that, Loydo.
Not sure where you got 20% from. Did 97% of scientists tell you this?
When I looked at AEC on Sunday the 2PP was looking at 57/43, yet that is with no postals counted. 2016 there were about 10,000 postals, of which 65% went to Abbott, so while it is statistically unlikely for Abbott to come back – which would be embarrassing to be honest after the submission speech – it is extremely likely that GetUp! will only just scrap in.
So what does this mean?
Well in real terms it looks like $20million dollars only buys you 8000 votes. This is what Abbott seems on target to have been reduced by in primary votes. Not really that impressive. Having been involved in political campaigns at Federal level $20 million is about 40 times what parties normally seem to run on for a single seat. So money well spent, especially since ‘winner’ Steggall now has to carefully distance herself from ‘supporters’ who stooped as low as to stab people with corkscrews in order to gain her win.
Plus, and this is the really funny part, Tony Abbott still exists, is still probably THE most influential public figure in Australia (mainly because the MSM wont shut up about him) and how has much more freedom of speech.
GetUp! would have been better off trying to convince Australia that Shorten could tie his own shoe laces and they might have won the election. Instead they spent $20million to bring police attention onto themselves. Smart.
And yet there are reports of GetUp sticking posters over Abbot’s election materials. And that was GetUp’s only win. Seems like a battle was won and a war lost.
Lets face it Abott was rolled by Liberals because he is a flog there only to extract some revenge because he got dumped and his little ego was bruised. It took a while for the realization to drop on most of the liberal faithful but in the end they did what we do to all flogs, ignore them.
Tony Abbott was one of the truly good guys in our Parliament. He has been a surf lifesaver volunteer all his adult life, is a volunteer bushfire fighter, spends time in indigenous communities every year, for years has run the pollie pedal which has raised a lot of money for charity. I don’t agree with all his politics but I admire the man as a genuinely good citizen.
Now what is it you do for your community, LdB?
People that have met Tony Abbott generally like the guy even if they disagree with him. The vitriol comes from people like you and it isnt correct. The nicest thing about this election is Malcolm who? and his son got well and truly rolled by the voters. Now there is someone who had a bruised ego.
Thanks Tony Abbott for your service to my country. I rather suspect you will continue to do good things.
It’s not about what he did out of parliament (he may be a saint) but he remained in parliament for one reason to grind an axe. We elect politicians to represent us not there own cause and he was dumped because he no longer represented his electorate.
Not disputing Malcom has the same issue but at least he moral compass to stop trying to pretend he was representing people.
Tony failed to do his job, he was sacked by the people and that is how democracy works.
You present that Turncoat as a moral compass?
LOL
Abbott has consistently tried to support those who have common cause with him in the party’s policies – that is his agenda and if that undermines the left leaning ministers, that’s their bad luck for being on the side of big government, climate change and LGTB.
And he isn’t finished by any means. The media report him as being retired from public office but they are reading too much from his concession speech on Saturday night (probably out of wishful thinking).
I fully expect him to stay as the Liberal candidate for Warringah and contest the seat at the next election and win it back. Zali Steggall has a singular platform of Climate Change action and, being an independent, will be powerless and irrelevant now that the coalition has a majority in the lower house
WOW, you really have eaten some SOUR GRAPES, haven’t you Loydo. !
So funny ! 🙂
Quick, hook Loydo up to the mains, all that spinning must be good for electricity generation.
You just can’t accept the fact that people have seen through your lies, can you.
Only one win for all those $oro$ bots? I heard bad language directed at one gormless GetUp! prat at an election booth in Canberra, where $oro$ and the unions blew a coal skip of cash to unseat Senator Zed. The bad language came from me and he scurried away like the rats in the ranks they are.
A do-over in Aus maybe – in the USA and Canada you get four years of the mainstream media and celebrities in lockstep with the far left working 24/7/365 to slander and depose the winner.
” … It’s not even science! … ”
Worse!
“It’s not even climate science.”
It’s ideolo-religio-geopolitical mental disorder from a very small number of bad actors.
” … Democracy be damned! …” – UN IPCC
We have lost Australia for now,” warned Penn State climatologist Michael Mann in an email. “A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species,” he said……..Really????
I thought Australia contributes only around 1% of global emissions. Even if the CO2 theory is correct, how could we possibly be a threat to the ”survivability of our species” anyway????
Alarmist supreme.
Well I for one can’t wait for these two clowns to wash up in Beijing and harangue China about it’s CO2 problems.
FYI: Kudos on two of the greatest mug shots you could have possibly found for this article.
Even less if consider that Australia is a carbon sink.
It wasn’t a ‘small number of bad actors’ Mr Mann, it was a majority of Australian voters who saw right through the alarmist nonsense pushed as ‘climate policy’ by the ALP, who to cap it off gave us an arrogant brush-off non-answer when we voters demanded to know what it would cost us! POLITICAL FAIL.
To call those two charlatans “scientists” is the same as calling the Taj Mahal a shithouse.
Even if they aren’t charlatans they are abusing their positions by being activists. link Activists can not be credible as dispassionate seekers of truth.
Anyway, you are right, calling them scientists is something like calling a bowl of flowers a whale.
+42
LOST!!!! Its not yours to lose……..go PHUQ your self Mann Et al
Lost!!!! Its not yours to lose, peddle your climate change rubbish somewhere else
And a majority too it looks like, with at least 77 seats, which is also enough to spare an elected member for the Speaker, and still have the majority required for 76 MP’s. Scott Morrison isn’t indebted to anyone politically, except the voters of Australia. Would be nice to see him axe the Paris Accord as his first act. The wheels are are coming off the climate change band wagon as evidenced by this election.
I suggest that neither of these two gentlemen would be welcome in North Queensland at the moment.
Bob Brown and his Stop Adani convoy galvanized the electorate to vote against the green madness.
Message to the pontificating alarmists, stop digging the hole you are in, the average worker in Australia no longer believes you.
Good news is Malcolm Roberts is very likely to return to the Senate as well
oh that IS good news Malcolms loss due to oppositions skuduggery was bad,
Many of our friends in the USA possibly don’t know that Australia has a compulsory voting system – not a first past the post. It is system that allows every one to vote for their favourite party/candidate and then list their preferences in descending order. Meaning that if their fist choice doesn’t win their votes are then distributed to the next choice and so on.
No-one can say that they didn’t have the chance to (a) vote and (b) ensure that their least favoured candidate can be relegated as low as they wish on the ballot paper to minimise the chances of gaining a seat in Parliament.
Here in Australia, the “ climate emergency” has been put on hold for three years ( at least).
Our Prime Minister famously took a hunk of coal into Parliament and taunted the Opposition not to be afraid of it.
He is a pragmatist not an alarmist.
Take a quick look at the election results for the seat of Hunter in the heart of the Hunter valley coal mining country. It would appear that the sitting Labor member is close to losing his seat, the safest labor seat in the country.
As are most of Australia, frankly most of us simply don’t believe emission control will ever work because you are never going to be able to enforce it. No country is going to give up there sovereignty to a bunch of left wing crackpots.
It is always framed in some moral failing of the other side, attempting to hold a moral high ground. They, like Hillary and her defeat, never really learn the lessons of why the public rejected them. They chalk it up to “bad actors.” Not their own dismal failing message and lack of ethics.
Bjorn Lomborg’s work though thoroughly discredits that moral stance. When one realizes it is economic growth and a society’s prosperity that can save the local environment and prevent ecological devastation one one local environ (that occurs in poor Africa every day), the epiphany occurs.
And China will have to solve their own. And each African country will have to solve their own.
And after careful and full study of the on-going push for renewable and rejection of nuclear, that is when one realizes what the Green Blob is really up to and what motivates it, with enablers like Mann and Lew-boy.
– Joel O’Bryan, PhD
USAF retired, USAFA ’84.
and mostly today — Proud Deplorable.
No country stands alone, sovereign yes, with freedom to join up with the Belt and Road Initiative – a win-win, positive-sum game (as Bangladesh Prime Minister’s International Affairs Adviser Dr. Gowher Rizvi said yesterday).
The insane attempts to break the BRI will fail.
A voice of sanity in this is Trump’s Artemis (Apollo’s twin sister) Moon program – boots on the regolith to stay.
Back to thinking real big!
Heinlein’s “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” is probably the basis of the USA return to the moon. I assume Trump read that years ago. In war, control of the high ground is always necessary for success. See Gettysburg in the civil way. Currently the superiority of US air power provides the high ground in every conflict since and including WWII.
I have always wondered why we didn’t go back to take control of that high ground, but we usually fail, as a country, to complete taking a dominant position when we can. Ex. at the end of WWII, destroying the soviet army and ending communist control of most of Asia by the soviets and red Chinese. Just think of the possible improvement of the Human condition if that had happened and the trillions of dollars the US and other countries around the world spent on the cold war had been spent on infrastructure, housing, etc. Also see the first gulf war where we didn’t oust Hussein, and while we were there, crush Iran’s military and free their people from the theocracy.
Once the US has a permanent military base on the moon we will no longer need nukes. Just an accelerator and containers of moon dirt.
Michael Mann is right – finally – when he said “A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species”. Well, he is partially right, but the threat is economic, not existential, & comes from him & his cronies as they pursue magic rabbits down their holes.
Apparently this “small number of bad actors” includes a Majority of the Australian Electorate.
They must be truly Deplorable.
”“We have lost Australia for now,” warned Penn State climatologist Michael Mann in an email. “A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species,” he said.”
Yes that’s right. Everybody’s wrong if they don’t agree with me. Cry me a river. You still don’t get it. The comments from the left this morning are blaming everyone but themselves….they still don’t get it.
Let me make it simple for Mr MM. We don’t care what you say and the more you say it the less we will care.
Now the low sunspot count has 3 more years to destroy the global warming scam in Oz at least.
We’re dealing with rainy, cold may, mountains to get a foot of snow in Colorado.
We’re headed for another cooling phase, the question I have is how they will keep up the charade. The brainwashed youth might just be dumbed down enough to believe cold = runaway global warming
Yes, they really are one of the biggest obstacles to sanity going forward, no other way to put it. The present and future dependents of the welfare state, all of whom slept through school and have never willingly read a book in their lives, are the ones given the most attention by leftist politicians because aside from hoping to mobilize them as voters by promising to fulfill their ever-expanding wish lists, they all have the “we can run the world on unicorn farts” mentality of the average 19-year old themselves.
Worrisome to say the least.
at my house, right now:
https://youtu.be/l3wnEomvbU4
May blizzards are nothing new where I grew up in Alberta. We had ’em on the same day two years apart – but this was the late 1980s, so nobody was shrieking about how “weird” it was. They hadn’t figured out how to monetize the weather yet.
I have 6 inches of dense heavy snow on my deck this morning in Duck Creek Utah, US at an altitude of 8600 ft. The forecast for the next few days is more snow, possibly up to 6 more inches. The sun is out and it is above freezing now so it may melt quickly since there is no ice base to sustain it where I am.
10 miles away where there is still 92 inches of base it may last longer. That area had been losing up to 1 inch of snow water equivalent per day recently, but gained 1.5 inches over the last 36 hours.
It is an interesting spring here.
we???
Rejoice! Rejoice! Rejoice!
Trump, Brazil, now this, and Europe is revolting against the consequences of supporting CC when they aren’t convinced it’s an AGW problem. With the failures and cost of “renewables” it’s no surprise Australia became enlightened. This is why the scam will ultimately fail without the help of science ….. people have too much to loose supporting it and nothing tangible to gain.
The alarmist’s are finally getting their due.
Ya see mate us Aussies aren’t all drongos or sheep
We’ve lost Australia for now? No, no, no. It was Australia that clearly said to you: GET LOST FOR NOW!
+50
First he lost his mind.
They are weeping over a tiny tiny portion of global emissions. Australia’s annual man-made emissions would be about half a day’s worth of China’s, and dwarfed by our annual bushfire emissions.
These people are deranged.
Yah think? Kommieforniastan is willing to totally destroy it’s economy and literally murder thousands in the name of being Green.
Let us hope they try. Seeing a catastrophic failure is a great deterrence to others thinking of trying the same thing.
And most of us would not miss CA.
Excellent perspective, Keith!
Aussie geo here. The schadenfreude swells bigly in my heart 🙂
What could be sadder than a hack Psychologist calling AGW skeptics “Science Deniers”, while lacking the moral courage to tackle; Gender fluidity, anti-vacinators, anti-GMO people and late-term abortion proponents.
McFly…….hello!