Quote of the Week: Greta Thunberg claims to be able to “see” carbon dioxide in the air

Greta Thunberg in front of the Swedish parliament in Stockholm, August 2018 – image: Wikipedia

At first, I thought this had to be a joke. Then I thought it must be some sort of misinterpretation. Sadly, no.

From the website Afrinik, quoting the book –Scener ur hjärtat by Malena Ernman, Svante Thunberg

According to her mother Malena Ernman (48), 16-year-old Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg can see CO2 with the naked eye. She writes that in the book ‘Scenes from the heart. Our life for the climate’, which she wrote with her family.

Greta was diagnosed as a child with obsessive-compulsive disorder and Asperger’s syndrome, just like her younger sister Beata. The activist also has a photographic memory. She knows all the capitals by heart and can list all the chemical elements of the periodic table within one minute. In addition, she has another gift according to her mother.

“Greta is able to see what other people cannot see,” writes Malena Ernman in the book.

“She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”

Of course, with a ~ 410 parts per million concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere, we know that is a physical impossibility. Carbon Dioxide is a colorless and odorless gas:

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/carbon_dioxide#section=ICSC-Number

It also does not reflect or absorb any light within the light spectrum that humans can see. Even if Greta had some special ability to see into the near infrared, the absorption spectrum of CO2 is far removed from the human range of color sensitivity.

Source:
http://www.ces.fau.edu/nasa/module-2/how-greenhouse-effect-works.php

But, this claim underscores how bizarre her activism has become, and people seem to want to look the other way instead of questioning her abilities and cognitive understanding of the information she professes to know.

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May 2, 2019 4:10 pm

Greta Thunberg possesses powers beyond ordinary Mortals. Like Superman, she can leap tall buildings in a single bound. One look at her beady little eyes and you just know that she can see all that CO2 and it’s leaking just everywhere.

Curious George
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 2, 2019 5:23 pm

That’s why she is afraid to breathe.Exhaled air is 4-5% CO2.

Paul Weber
Reply to  Curious George
May 2, 2019 6:09 pm

If Greta Thunberg can see the 400 PPM of CO2 in the air, then the 4% (40,000 PPM) of CO2 in her exhaled breath must be opaque and render her incapable of seeing beyond her nose.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Paul Weber
May 2, 2019 7:09 pm

Hah Ha Ha

Bryan A
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
May 3, 2019 11:32 pm

Easily verifiable…
5 bottles with All CO2 scrubbed
5 bottles with 400 ppm CO2 ambient levels
1 bottle with 800 ppm CO2
1 bottle with 40,000 ppm CO2.
She should be able to perfectly place the bottles in their respective order from zero to 40,000 ppm.

Aidan Donnelly
Reply to  Paul Weber
May 3, 2019 1:08 am

I first heard this a couple of weeks ago and that was my firs thought also.
On reflection maybe that’s why she is convinced it’s so dangerous, because it interferes with her vision?
What a farce, but a dangerous one and obviously an attempt to reboot the failing CAGW scam.
One other oddity, why is this 16 year old dressed and her hair styled so she looks like she is eight?

Greg
Reply to  Aidan Donnelly
May 3, 2019 6:49 am

Please bear in mind , before getting too technical, that she has been brought up in an age where the press has been full of photos of condensing water vapour coming out of cooling towers and chimney stacks against a setting sun and labelled as “dirty CO2”.

When she looks up at the sky as sees a cloud, she probably thinks it is a cloud of CO2 holding in all that heat.

Greg
Reply to  Aidan Donnelly
May 3, 2019 6:52 am

Those squinty eyes sure look like they can see WAY into the future. So if she says we are going to go extinct, who am I to argue with a mere innocent child?

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Aidan Donnelly
May 3, 2019 7:15 am

“She sees how it flows out of chimneys”.
One little problem: CO2 is denser than air so its flow down.

Greg
Reply to  Aidan Donnelly
May 3, 2019 2:34 pm

One little problem: CO2 is denser than air so its flow down.

Really? Do you have a ref for that?

You may like to consider how hot the CO2 is as it comes out and whether it is still less dense than the ambient air. Then you need to look into gas diffusion and turbulence. If CO2 “flows down” because it is denser then all of us a low altitude would suffocate ! Thing about it.

oeman50
Reply to  Aidan Donnelly
May 4, 2019 8:47 am

Flue gas (including CO2) is lighter than air because it is hotter than the surrounding air, lowering the density. It’s called “the stack effect.”

Matt
Reply to  Aidan Donnelly
May 4, 2019 2:02 pm

I think someone has decided to make her look as young as possible. Which, to my mind, is rather sick and very disturbing.

As for seeing Co2, how does she know it is Co2 that she us seeing?

This is getting even more bizarre and, frankly, concerning. She is an abused child.

Greg
Reply to  Paul Weber
May 3, 2019 6:59 am

If Greta Thunberg can see the 400 PPM of CO2 in the air, then the 4% (40,000 PPM) of CO2 in her exhaled breath must be opaque and render her incapable of seeing beyond her nose.

Hey, haven’t you notice that she is always squinting? The poor child can hardly see where she is going.

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Greg
May 5, 2019 11:11 pm

Of course heating any gas makes it less dense. If Greta really saw CO2 she would be looking at other people’s breath and down near the ground, not up at any chimneys, as CO2 is 1.67 x more dense than air https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Physical_properties

Pop Piasa
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 2, 2019 5:55 pm

It’s not that uncommon for smart folks to sense things average people can’t. We had a couple of professors who wouldn’t come near their offices during an asbestos removal in a basement mechanical room because they could smell asbestos in the air. Their secretaries then smelled it also and got paid leave.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Pop Piasa
May 2, 2019 7:10 pm

Pop. You should be ashamed of yourself for your reply.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
May 3, 2019 3:07 pm

Easy folks, When an abatement is carried out,the entire area is sealed off with plastic and put under a negative pressure by fans pulling through HEPA filtration. Once clean, the surfaces are sprayed with a chemical sealant which has a very strong odor. That, along with the huge amount of 6 mil plastic needed and the very sticky tape that holds it in place create the odors associated with asbestos abatements. If asbestos actually had a smell it would be much more detectable in the air.
We always air monitored the university’s abatement projects beyond the minimum requirements and the tests all came back negative for air contamination.
My intent was to show the fear that these people had of something they knew little about, and I guess I might have found some here, no?

Phil Hicks
Reply to  Pop Piasa
May 10, 2019 11:32 pm

This reply is so relevant it reminds me of a hippo roller-skating.

UNGN
Reply to  Pop Piasa
May 3, 2019 4:12 am

If CO2 had a smell it could be detected.

I’m not a smart person, but since I know what asbestos smells like, I could probably detect asbestos in a PPM amount.

Apples and Oranges. This is about delusion, not science.

Greg
Reply to  Pop Piasa
May 3, 2019 6:57 am

“Their secretaries then smelled it also and got paid leave.”

I’m Brian, and so is my wife !

If I thought it would get me some paid leave, I’m sure I could even smell CO2.

Reply to  Pop Piasa
May 3, 2019 10:50 am

Wow, Pop, a new low. Asbestos is a particle, certainly does not have a smell. It is toxic in large concentrations in air, demonized in small concentrations. Number of school children who ever got mesothelioma? Zero, office workers and professors, also zero. ALL the cancers were in people who worked directly with the material.

My dad and I made a lot of money from respiratory protection equipment for asbestos removal workers, so I know whereof I speak.

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Michael Moon
May 3, 2019 12:38 pm

True, there is a lot of hysteria about this. Today, one must have “special forces” personell to remove any building part with even a tiny amount of asbestos.

In my childhood, we put fibre cement cladding panels on the weatherboard facades, they contained quite a bit of asbestos. After some years it went out of fashion and we removed them, and we kids had great fun making a bonfire in the garden and throwing the plates into the flames. They exploded with a very satisfactory bang, and disintegrated into lots of sharp fragments, very much like real shrapnel. No casualties from the asbestos, though.

Reply to  Henning Nielsen
May 3, 2019 1:27 pm

People who got sick typically would have been exposed to loose fibers. Construction workers insulating Liberty ships in WWII had “snowball” fights with the fibers. Lots of them ended up ill.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Henning Nielsen
May 3, 2019 2:21 pm

My previous house was over 60 years old when I bought it. It had a Super66 roof, meaning it was made of asbestos. It had asbestos walls, and even the old oven had asbestos bricks as insulation inside it.

I lived in that house for 20 years, and I’m sure the family before me grew up all safe and well. The roof cavity was dusty, so I didn’t trust the dust up there, suspecting that the asbestos fibers may be flaking over the years. So I and any electrician that came along would wear a mask in the roof. Otherwise I had zero worry about the stuff.

GregK
Reply to  Pop Piasa
May 3, 2019 10:43 pm

They may have been able to smell a fixer or glue that was used to produce the fibre board [if that is where it was] that contained the asbestos. Their secretaries would be able to smell it as well as they would be more competent in every way compared with the professors they worked for.

If the profs can get a couple of days off so can we.

Doc Chuck
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 2, 2019 8:43 pm

Greta can apparently be real helpful scouting the trail that our bar-tending congresswoman is blazing until it is too late in 12 years and we all look like toast.

WXcycles
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 2, 2019 10:33 pm

Does she notice she’s breathing it out?

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  WXcycles
May 5, 2019 10:23 am

Very subtle!
We test the portable gas monitors (after the “official” calibration routine at each startup cycle) by blowing into the [sensor tube]. Should get a low O2 alarm (due to high CO2 percentages) and (if the welder is a smoker) CO high alarms just by exhaling, the natural “exhaust” from a person’s lungs.

Joel Snider
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 3, 2019 8:51 am

Well, when it’s really cold, I can see my breath.
I don’t think I could isolate the C02, though.

Dr W
Reply to  Joel Snider
May 3, 2019 3:08 pm

Meanwhile in the real Sweden outside this bubble we are getting a white blanket of snow on green trees and plants. This in the warm south, and at freezing we can indeed see our breath…

We had well over 20 deg C last week, now it has fallen to 0. Forecast a few days ago did not predict this. I guess this in the narrative of the climate church is the climate disruption. Global warming initiating the next glaciation.

I think this craze is worse than the one Sweden contributed to through our frenological theories to Europe a century ago.

Bill Powers
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 3, 2019 10:43 am

She also sees DEAD people.

Did they say she is 16? She looks to be about the age of a 5th grader. The biggest problem with the looney left is they tend to invest so much wisdom into undeveloped minds.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Bill Powers
May 3, 2019 10:51 am

This one can’t see CO2, but can see the future:

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Thai_Buddhist_meditation_master_sounds_alarm_on_Internet_induced_climate_change

Although, again with translation, perhaps the “has seen the future” could be a metaphor, i.e., “I saw rock and roll’s future and its name is Bruce Springsteen”, circa 1974.

Michael Clement
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 3, 2019 12:27 pm

Please include proof , along with your sarcasm, that as you claim, Greta can not see CO2.

[Bull. She’s one human in several billion to make the claim. The onus is on her to prove she CAN. Humans just aren’t made that way, and nobody else living or dead has made such an asinine claim.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” – Carl Sagan.

So far she has nothing. In contrast, the graph above of spectrum shows humans can’t see Infrared, and the spectrum of CO2 absorptivity is in the far infrared, far away from human vision.

You have nothing but whining, bugger off – Anthony]

Reply to  Michael Clement
May 3, 2019 6:19 pm

Your passive aggressive attempt at showing some type of parallel logic sucks.

I can see, with my eye, both the CO2 density & the energy flux associated with the changing CO2 density. And I can assure you that the energy flux (with respect to changing density) has not varied in any significant way in the last 12 years.

Prove me wrong ….

tomalock
Reply to  DonM
May 9, 2019 4:56 pm

Science proved you wrong before you were born, you have yet to prove your claim.

Have a nice day

Dan
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 3, 2019 1:02 pm

True, but Superman always ducked when the bad guys threw pistols at him!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Dan
May 3, 2019 10:24 pm

Those things hurt!

Trevor Marr P.Eng
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 4, 2019 8:15 am

it is sad to see Greta being abused by the Climate Cult! Shame on the Left!

Berend Dikkers
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 4, 2019 10:24 am

Fake news!

Jean Parisot
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 4, 2019 2:04 pm

I can do it with an FTIR when there’s a dynamic event cause a red/green shift.

Jean Parisot
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 4, 2019 2:04 pm

I can do it with an FTIR when there’s a dynamic event cause a red/green shift.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 4, 2019 5:52 pm

Ha, she’s got nothing on me.

I see stupid people . . . they’re everywhere . . . they walk around like everyone else . . . they don’t even know they’re dumb. (With apologies to M. Night Shyamalan and his movie “The Sixth Sense,” and all those that have morphed before me.)

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 6, 2019 6:31 am

nicholas tesdorf

How dare you mock a budding climate scientist, Ms Greeta Thornberg !

I can also see CO2.

Everyone can.

I saw CO2 in my soda pop yesterday.

It looked like clear bubbles.

Naturally those clear bubbles of CO2 are hard to see in the atmosphere, but that doesn’t mean they are always invisible.

Perhaps to reduce the CO2 levels in the atmosphere we should buy all the soda pop we can afford, bring the cases home, and never open the cans / bottles ?

For those people who have garages — remove the cars, and other junk — then fill up your garages with cases of unopened soda pop … and your garage will become a “CO2 sink”. And maybe a tax write-off too ?

That’s such a good idea, I think I’ll apply for a Nobel Prize — where do I send my application ? Maybe I can get Greeta Thornberg to sponsor me ?

Mialn
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
May 11, 2019 11:05 pm

That’s nothing new to specific people. There are visual spectrum test books who show colors and spectrum relativ color, schematically ordered pieces. FOR SAMPLE CARBON MONOXIDE AND DIOXIDE LOOK LIKE HOT GLOWING AIR, TO ME…

Milan
Reply to  Mialn
May 11, 2019 11:07 pm

Milan and FLOWING AIR, not GLOWING

John Robertson
May 2, 2019 4:12 pm

Shades of Planet P Project;Pinkworld.

J Mac
May 2, 2019 4:13 pm

A CO2 shaman, perhaps? Or just a sham.

Big T
Reply to  J Mac
May 2, 2019 5:40 pm

If you look closely at her right braid, you can see an image of mohammed.

Greg
Reply to  Big T
May 3, 2019 7:01 am

An image of the prophet ? Blasphemy! There’ll be a fatwa on her before long.

tty
May 2, 2019 4:17 pm

No, it is not a faulty translation. It actually says so in the book.

Her mother apparently has mild Asperger’s as well.

Incidentally it must be problematic to be able to see CO2 since your own breath (50,000 ppm) will presumably block your vision.

R Shearer
Reply to  tty
May 2, 2019 5:06 pm

By God that is proof. I can see my breath when it is cold outside.

Curious George
Reply to  tty
May 2, 2019 5:25 pm

The right people to lead us. Future Fuehrers.

Andy Espersen
Reply to  tty
May 2, 2019 7:43 pm

Psychiatric fact is that autistic thinking is one of “Bleuler’s four A’s” – i.e. one of the symptoms of human insanity (schizophrenia). Thought processes in autism are determined by unconscious mental complexes rather than by reality. Thunberg also, as it happens, is exactly the age when schizophrenia usually appears.

Now, I am not saying she is insane – but ………………….

Ian Magness
Reply to  Andy Espersen
May 3, 2019 12:01 am

Andy,
As you may well know, autism is permanent and has a genetic link whereas schizophrenia is an illness that develops. The two are quite different and you cannot infer, as you clearly do, that an autistic person like Greta May well develop schizophrenia. “Autistic thinking” traits can be associated with schizophrenia but that does not make the affected individuals autistic any more than you and I if we exhibited autistic type thinking on some issue or other.

Andy Espersen
Reply to  Ian Magness
May 3, 2019 2:00 am

You are absolutely right. Perhaps it was wrong of me to hint that. In any case, Thunberg has every right to speak out – and the rest of us have every right to listen to her and to form our ideas of her and her opinions. I happen to disagree with her – but that is irrelevant, of course.

The connection between autism and schizophrenia is not at all clear – but there is no doubt the two conditions are out of the same drawer, so to speak. They are both genetically caused, both mysterious and inexplicable – and both permanent. And the combinations of genes behind the two conditions are undoubtedly of crucial importance to humankind. Neither of them are illnesses proper – but an integral part of being Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Thanks for pulling me up on this.

Rhys Jaggar
Reply to  Andy Espersen
May 3, 2019 10:29 am

Mr Espersen

Autism is described as an ‘illness’ merely because human crave normality and a current population has different brain wiring.

You might as well say that taking orders to go and kill foreign strangers is an illness, an incredibly common one in the 19th and 2th centuries, especially in Europe and the USA.

You might as well say that alpha thuggishness is an illness as it achieves nothing other than frustrate everyone else and lower the entire world to whatever primitive level those alphas exist at.

Autistic Spectrum Brain Witing is very useful in exposing common delusions simply because high functioning autistics do not submit to authority without good reason. It is not saying all AS carriers can perform such useful things, but it is saying they are a resource of value in that regard.

The reality of ASD is that their potential is as yet unknown because ‘normals’ currently are too insecure to let them flourish in the main. The computer era favours ASDs in many ways and ‘normals’ do not like it.

It is high time that ‘normals’ had all their weaknesses brutally badged as an ‘illness’ and let them descend into depressions badged as weirdo geek freaks.

See how they like it.

Andy Espersen
Reply to  Andy Espersen
May 3, 2019 3:52 pm

Rhys Jaggar – But I clearly stated that I do NOT consider autism an illness.

Hugs
Reply to  Andy Espersen
May 3, 2019 2:50 am

https://www.spectrumnews.org/features/deep-dive/social-ties-autism-schizophrenia/

I’m not calling her ill, but what I claim is that media (and XR people) have been abusing her.

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Hugs
May 3, 2019 12:49 pm

Poor Greta. If it really is true that her mother has led her to believe she can see co2, IMO, this is bordering on being a case for the local child welfare authorities. Does Greta perhaps think she will only reach the age of 28, unless the world cuts dramatically in its emissions, bringing on doomsday in 12 years from now? Imagine what a horrible fear this can induce in the young girl’s mind, especially if the person has a mental condition where things are too easily seen by their face value. One can only hope that she at some point emerges from this nightmare, but on the other hand, considering what problematic effect this could have on her family relations, maybe one should not hope for it, after all.

Andy Espersen
Reply to  Henning Nielsen
May 3, 2019 3:15 pm

Except that autistic people don’t usually see things “by their face value” – quite the opposite, in fact.

Reply to  tty
May 3, 2019 12:14 am

It may be a literal translation but an incorrect interpretation.

She may be saying she can see CO2 in the air by its effects.
Just like we can see the wind by the moving of the trees.

(Although attribution is easier in that case.)

Greg
Reply to  M Courtney
May 3, 2019 7:09 am

so she can “see” 0.1 deg of warming since she was a toddler? Or can she “see” a polar vortex or cyclone energy with here bare eyes.

Maybe she can see cosmic rays too.

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Greg
May 3, 2019 1:56 pm

Yes she can, when wearing Cosmic Ray Ban. At least, until cosmic rays are banned.

Reply to  M Courtney
May 4, 2019 4:09 pm

Similar to a waving hand causing air movement, wind is created by the trees moving rather than wind moving the trees.

This is just as valid an argument as the CAGW CO2/temp connection.

/sarc

Reply to  tty
May 3, 2019 8:53 am

I found this claim, that I find hard to fathom since it still doesn’t make sense anyway:

Greta’s mother creates clarity: “Passage about ‘seeing CO2’ was figuratively intended”

“In a book about her family, climate activist Greta Thunberg’s mother writes: “Greta is one of the few people who can recognize our carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how greenhouse gases flow from our chimneys, rise to the sky through the wind and turn our atmosphere into a gigantic, invisible heap of waste.”

and this howler since they used the words NAKED EYE,

“That is why we contacted the publisher of the book in Sweden. “I was shocked by the commotion in Germany, Belgium and now also in Italy,” he says. “I can assure you that it is a metaphor; if you read the entire passage, end it with the tale of “The New Emperor’s Clothes” by Christian Anderson. So it is certainly not literal.” In a text message, the mother also says that it is only about imagery.”

https://www.afrinik.com/gretas-mother-creates-clarity-passage-about-seeing-co2-was-figuratively-intended/

Chase Brand
Reply to  Sunsettommy
May 3, 2019 9:43 am

I thought the story of Greta Thurnberg sounded vaguely familiar. Attached is the history of Opal Whiteley. A savant child in Oregon who had a gift for memorization and nature. Her autobiography was a bestseller, if controversial. It it quite fun to read actually, if always with the understanding that it may have only one foot in the truth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opal_Whiteley

Reply to  Sunsettommy
May 3, 2019 9:49 am

(When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”)

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Sunsettommy
May 3, 2019 1:28 pm

Yes, “Greta’s mother creates clarity”; quite the contrary, I would say. Looks like she now understands how this weird claim weakens the campaign and cause of herself and of her daughter, and so she backs down. But it is not convincing, the original claim is so weird, it is very hard to see it as a metaphor.

Greg
Reply to  Sunsettommy
May 3, 2019 2:43 pm

Greta’s mother creates clarity:

Political damage control language. Declaring that she DID create clarity by changing what she had previously written. Sounds more like creating confusing, than clarity.

Greta’s mother ATTEMPTS to create clarity, by walking back what she previously wrote when she was told how stupid and unequivocally wrong it was. Ooops.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
May 4, 2019 4:13 pm

If this was figuratively intended, why say “one of the few people”?

Rocketscientist
May 2, 2019 4:18 pm

More visions at Fatima? (sigh)
If rational thinkers need another “sign” regarding these charlatans, shame on us.

Derg
Reply to  Rocketscientist
May 3, 2019 9:52 am

This is child abuses…plain and simple. Her parents should be ashamed and charged.

CD in Wisconsin
May 2, 2019 4:19 pm

I guess when you’ve morphed some kind of a deity in the eyes of people who have formed a cult around you, then you can do all kinds of things that mere humans cannot do. Like the children in that movie “Village of the Damned.”

May 2, 2019 4:19 pm

She’s way smarter than Al “The Blimp” Gore and AOC combined.

R Shearer
Reply to  Richard Greene
May 2, 2019 5:10 pm

Gore and AOC don’t have the pergers part.

JLC of Perth
Reply to  R Shearer
May 2, 2019 7:56 pm

+1

saveenergy
Reply to  R Shearer
May 2, 2019 10:28 pm

+97%

Bryan A
Reply to  R Shearer
May 3, 2019 1:07 pm

Gore and AOC don’t have the pergers part
Perhaps it’s preggers instead

Jason Calley
Reply to  R Shearer
May 4, 2019 9:33 pm

It’s an old joke, but “Gore and AOC are idiot savants — without the savant part.”

Schitzree
Reply to  Richard Greene
May 3, 2019 8:57 am

Richard- that’s what we call ’round here “damning with faint praise”.

Next you’ll be saying she’s more honest then Michael Man and more ethical then Peter Gleik.

~¿~

Bryan A
Reply to  Schitzree
May 3, 2019 9:47 am

My Chihuahua is more ethical than Peter Gleick

markl
May 2, 2019 4:19 pm

No shame in their game. They found someone with mental challenges and made her a poster child for AGW.

TG McCoy
May 2, 2019 4:20 pm

In other words the parents are using a child their child with OCD and asperger’s .
To destroy the world that can help them. Rleagating them to th ekitchen in the “big House’ or if it goes too far the Harem..

nw sage
Reply to  TG McCoy
May 2, 2019 6:15 pm

Where can I sign up for her go-fund-me account? I’d drive my diesel 40 miles (smoking all the way) to be able to sign up!

PaulH
May 2, 2019 4:21 pm

Did GT say she can see carbon dioxide, or did her mother say GT can see carbon dioxide? Somehow I think her parents are the weirdos here.

On the other hand, the MSM often presents photos of smoke billowing from smokestacks with the caption implying it’s the evil carbon dioxide. It’s easy to get confused if you aren’t careful.

Reply to  PaulH
May 2, 2019 9:14 pm

Not even smoke. Steam from cooling towers is their go-to for showing evil CO2. (There is a slight excuse there, as H2O is of course the major “greenhouse” gas. Not that the evaporation from all of the cooling towers in the world budges the amount in the air by even one part per million.)

Berndt Koch
Reply to  PaulH
May 3, 2019 9:42 am

Can she see farts too? Now that is an ability I’d like to have!

Henrik Oelund
Reply to  Berndt Koch
May 3, 2019 5:25 pm

Gold!

Michael Ozanne
May 2, 2019 4:22 pm

“It also does not reflect or absorb any light withing the spectrum that humans can see. Even if Greta had some special ability to see into the near infrared, the absorption spectrum of CO2 is far removed from the human range of color sensitivity.”

High Elves have 60 foot infravision… throw 2 D6 for charisma score….

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Michael Ozanne
May 4, 2019 8:14 am

“High Elves have 60 foot infravision… throw 2 D6 for charisma score….”

That would give you a VERY low cha for an elf.

D Matteson
May 2, 2019 4:24 pm

My daughter-in-law claims she can smell it.

peterh
Reply to  D Matteson
May 2, 2019 5:01 pm

Can she smell her own breath?

icisil
Reply to  D Matteson
May 2, 2019 5:29 pm

She likely has CO2 confused with methane

R Shearer
Reply to  icisil
May 2, 2019 6:33 pm

And methane confused with tertiary-butyl mercaptan.

Reply to  R Shearer
May 2, 2019 8:48 pm

Exactly.
Methane has no odor.
It needs to have an odorant added for safety, prior to distribution to consumers.
Typically a mix of different chemicals are used, as for any given one, there is a significant number of people who cannot smell it at all.
Back when Nat Geo used to be a real science publication, they did a study where they included a scratch and sniff sheet in an issue, containing many separate items.
Readers were asked to scratch and sniff each one and report the results.
There was no single chemical or scent that everyone was able to detect, and the degree to which people perceived them all varied significantly.
Also, which scents people found pleasant and which were perceived as unpleasant varied quite a bit as well.
Some people were very surprised by these results, having the idea in their minds that we all perceive the world the same way via our senses.
This of course is completely untrue: The is huge variation in how the world is perceived across all of our senses and every population.
Some cannot see certain colors, some cannot taste certain flavors, some hate the taste of things that other people love, some cannot smell things very well, and some perceive nearly all taste and odors. Having this ability is a two edged sword, with benefits and drawbacks: It can limit the range of food items a person can ingest without become ill, but it can also prevent potential problems such as food poisoning, etc.
Some people have hybrid senses, such as synesthesia, which is when the senses overlap, and people can smell colors, hear shapes, taste words, and all sorts of other strange things.
Some drugs can induce an artificial state of synesthesia, such as the “hallucinogens” LSD-25, psilocybin, mescaline, etc. Given what we know about people who naturally have various abilities, are the changes that occur with such drugs truly hallucinations? Maybe not always.
It gets really weird and counterintuitive when one investigates such phenomenon as phantom limbs, not to mention the crazy way some people have been cured of the perception of having painfully twisted and distorted phantom limbs.
Still, although I am sure that some people have senses that range outside what most people can perceive (Know it for a fact – I used to be able to hear things that no one else I knew could hear, very faint and/or high pitched sounds), I am equally sure that this girl cannot smell CO2.
The edges of crazy are some very strange places.

London247
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
May 3, 2019 12:05 pm

+1 for a intelligent comment. In mines ,firedamp ( methane) is undetectable except with canaries, Faraday lamps ( improved) and electronic measurements. Unsmellable but can have debilitating effects on humans, I refer to the testimony of a digger on the Abbeystead disaster who complained of headaches whilst tunnelling through Carboniferous rocks.

icisil
Reply to  R Shearer
May 3, 2019 1:13 am

Ah say, Ah say it was a joke, son. I made a funny and you’re not laughing.

Marcus
Reply to  D Matteson
May 2, 2019 5:48 pm

I pity your son…

D. Anderson
Reply to  D Matteson
May 2, 2019 6:27 pm

She who smelt it dealt it.

ShanghaiDan
Reply to  D Matteson
May 2, 2019 6:35 pm

Lots of people confuse ozone with CO2… It’s easy to smell ozone, but CO2… 😉

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  ShanghaiDan
May 2, 2019 7:10 pm

actually, you can’t smell ozone. what you smell is the product odds of ozone as it readily oxidizes anything around it, happily giving up its third and very loosely bound oxygen atom.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
May 2, 2019 9:07 pm

Are you sure about this?
I have found no sources that confirm this, and many that state the exact opposite: That ozone has a very distinct smell that can vary with concentration, and can be perceived at very low concentrations of a few ppb.
To some people it is a clean sheets smell, and to others, the smell of metal or sparks.
Openly sparking electrical equipment smells very distinct to me, a burning smell, and I have smelled this from those ozone generator dealios.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
May 2, 2019 11:29 pm

Ozone smells like chlorine bleach, probably due to the nascent oxygen interacting with our nasal and buccal sensors.
The only reason that we perceive oxygen, carbon dioxide and nitrogen as being odourless is because we wouldn’t want to be breathing in an atmosphere that was pungent, and they don’t pose a specific threat and hence we don’t need an alerting odour.

icisil
Reply to  John Collis
May 3, 2019 1:22 am

No it doesn’t; it has a sweet smell. It’s that smell in the air after a thunderstorm passes through. Replicable with an ozone air purifier.

Reply to  John Collis
May 3, 2019 4:03 am

Could the sweet smell actually be Nitrous Oxide, which is also produced by lightning?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
May 3, 2019 7:47 am

You can smell ozone easily. Hight voltage engineers use its smell to spot insulation failure. Less than a part per million has a sharp smell.

Yirgach
Reply to  D Matteson
May 2, 2019 6:51 pm

She who smelt it dealt it.

Zig Zag Wanderer
May 2, 2019 4:25 pm

Insanity is as insanity does…..

R Shearer
May 2, 2019 4:30 pm

Can she heat it? It probably has a few choice words for her.

R Shearer
Reply to  R Shearer
May 2, 2019 5:05 pm

I meant hear it.

The Reverend Badger
May 2, 2019 4:32 pm

GREEN THUG BRAT (Anagram)

sonofametman
Reply to  The Reverend Badger
May 3, 2019 12:30 am

I love the smell of a good anagram in the morning….

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  The Reverend Badger
May 3, 2019 2:04 pm

Nice anagram, but Greta is neither a thug nor a brat.

John Bell
May 2, 2019 4:32 pm

All she has to do is look behind her car or jet and see all the C02 she is emitting, and it comes out of her chimney at home and out of the coal power plant that sends her electricity.

nw sage
Reply to  John Bell
May 2, 2019 6:16 pm

It get tricky when she says she can see it before it happens.

THX1138
May 2, 2019 4:33 pm

I see dead people.

Steve
Reply to  THX1138
May 2, 2019 5:14 pm

I see stupid people. They’re all around me. And they don’t know they’re stupid!

Ken Irwin
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2019 12:32 am

“I hate stupid people – they should be made to wear a sign”

Jeff Foxworthy

Reply to  THX1138
May 2, 2019 9:17 pm

Do you work for the voting registrar, by chance?

David Chappell
May 2, 2019 4:34 pm

It must be a spectacular sight for her when she is in a group of people!

a happy little debunker
May 2, 2019 4:37 pm

“According to her mother…”

Yet another child exploited by adults intent on causing harm.

John Bucknall
Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 2, 2019 6:47 pm

Precisely.

Gerald Machnee
May 2, 2019 4:37 pm

When you attend the AGW church you can see a lot of things us normal folk cannot.

Twobob
May 2, 2019 4:38 pm

I can see CO2 ,too
It is the bubble in my beer.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Twobob
May 2, 2019 7:12 pm

I see what you did there… 🙂

Schitzree
Reply to  Twobob
May 3, 2019 9:18 am

I am intrigued by this theory of being able to see CO2 as bubbles in beer. But to be truly scientific it will require much testing. Maybe I could get a grant for the study if I wrote it as being related to Climate Crises Change.

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WBWilson
Reply to  Twobob
May 4, 2019 7:19 am

I can taste it in those bubbles too. It is delicious.

May 2, 2019 4:38 pm

Let’s not jump to conclusions till she start’s to heal lepers and stop the tides. Then it may require some adult intervention and a hearty dose of skepticism. For now let her see CO2 wherever she looks – this “skill” doesn’t differentiate her from hordes of other climate catastrophe fanatics, nor from those who find the future engraved in their tea leaves or the local paper’s astrology column.

u.k.(us)
May 2, 2019 4:39 pm

I’ve got a photographic memory too, just ask me how many beers are left in the fridge and their exact positions 🙂

John K. Sutherland.
May 2, 2019 4:39 pm

Bang goes her credibility. Just another crazy kook.

Rod Evans
Reply to  John K. Sutherland.
May 2, 2019 11:17 pm

She never had any credibility to lose John.

Martin557
May 2, 2019 4:42 pm

This very much appears to resemble the old “Freak Show” efforts of the carnivals of the past.

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