Guest essay by Eric Worrall
New York’s famous hot dogs could soon be a thing of the past.
NYC Considering Banning HOT DOGS And Other Processed Meats Over Climate Change
By EMILY ZANOTTI
April 25, 2019New York City may be on the verge of outlawing its signature encased meat, the hot dog, alongside other “processed meats,” in a bid to make New Yorkers more climate conscious.
Radio station Z100 reports that Mayor Bill de Blaiso signed into law New York’s own version of the “Green New Deal” last week, and part of the NYC GND involves teaching New Yorkers to make healthy, environmentally friendly food choices by banning specific, “problematic” dishes from city menus.
“The plan,” Z100 says, “will cut purchases of red meat by 50 percent in its city-controlled facilities such as hospitals, schools, and correctional facilities. The new commitment builds off of the Meatless Mondays campaign that was adopted by all NYC schools in 2017.”
New Yorkers will be able to keep their precious hot dog street carts, and tourists will still be able to fill up on dirty water dogs in Times Square — at least for now. The Green New Deal only prohibits city facilities from buying and serving hot dogs and other processed meats in bulk to serve in city-run cafeterias, mostly located in city office buildings, jails, and schools.
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Read more: https://www.dailywire.com/news/46431/nyc-considering-banning-hot-dogs-and-other-emily-zanotti
What I don’t get, why is processed meat supposed to be less environmentally friendly than unprocessed meat?
Processed meat normally has non meat fillers, like breadcrumbs or other grains or cereals, and traditionally includes animal parts which might otherwise be discarded. I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away.
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The radical Democrats are not helping their re-election prospects with all these crazy plans they are proposing.
That’s bad for Democrats, but good for the country since the Democrat craziness will result in more conservatives being elected.
The Democrats just keep getting farther and farther out into Left Field. They are all climbing on the Crazy Train.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
– Pastor Martin Niemöller
Well OK – NOW they’ve gone too far.
Gimme back my !@ur momisugly#$%^&* hot dogs!
Yes, it was the wurst that they could do, wasn’t it?
“It was the best of times, it was the wurst of times…”
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.”
– Charles Dickens, “A Tale of Two Cities”, 1859
+10
I thank you that I was not eating any processed meat products nor imbibing any infused Camellia sinensis leaves mixed with full fat dairy products as my computer and screen would now be covered in it.
Thank you for a great laugh.
I can see business plummeting at the New York run centres and local free market enterprise picking up a lot of trade.
James Bull
Banning only processed meats, like bologna, pastrami, corned beef? Thank goodness they aren’t banning Jimmy Dean sausage.
Mike McMillan, the old “Jimmy Dean Show” is still on directv ch 345. Actually kinda entertaining — no PCism back then.
They have definitely taken a tern for the wurst.
ROFL or RFOL..whatever
They have to keep feeding their self-indulgent warm-fuzzy, so they have to keep banning things to maintain that virtue-signal.
So what will they ban tomorrow – or the next day? Or the day after that?
Whatever it is, you can bet that it will not be something that they use/eat.
I just finished off two hot dogs made with grilled All beef Ball Park Franks. With sauerkraut, chopped onions, cheese and sweet relish. And a sauce made of yellow mustard and ketchup. Yum. Take that, deBlasio!
I just finished off two hot dogs made with grilled All beef Ball Park Franks. With sauerkraut, chopped onions, cheese and sweet relish. And a sauce made of yellow mustard and ketchup. Yum. Take that, deBlasio!
Shhhhhhh, don’t tell them…
That’s the best part about this. Voters don’t want New York to join the EU and De Blasio is showing them that is exactly the sort of thing he would consider a brilliant idea, no matter how absurd.
Tom the leftists have a grander plan and a method to their madness. They are in no hurry in the steady march to totalitarianism. This radical advance and retreat has a purpose. 3 steps forward, 2 steps back.
This tactic serves a dual strategic purpose: First, advance until voices of protest arise, then back down but not quite all the way. After all, the moderate is conciliatory. One of their tenants is compromise. Something the Left never does without first moving so far forward that the compromise advances their cause. Second it provides fodder for the Public Schools, Universities and Propaganda Press to instill the notion in our youth that theirs on the left, is the correct path and musters majority support from the Future Voters of America.
Note the cleverness of simultaneously having other voices on the left call for voter rights for felons (3 steps forward). The moderates will claim victory when they beat back the felon vote by allowing for compromise on lowering the voting age for non-felons to 16. Voila 2 steps back yet their advance continues. 2 more generations and felons will have the vote. They are the unrelenting wave on a cliff face.
Good Points!!!!!
Thanks, Bill.
You and others in this thread have illuminated some of the methods used to move us to tyranny. It isn’t enough to identify the methods used by the usurpers of power, we must also explore their motivations, if we have any hope at all of keeping at least some of humanity, free from the bonds of the totalitarians.
It seems that the more implausible the idea which is fed to us, the faster a cause rallies behind that idea. Neither the sycophant pseudo- barons like de Blasio, nor the captured press corps, originate those ideas which they promote and defend. Those ideas are the product of a comparative handful of puppet masters behind the scenes, who are themselves, the very worst sort of human beings. It isn’t enough to just apply the standard labels of sociopath and psychopath to those would- be rulers. They know who and what they are and labels don’t bother them.
Those dark masters are nearly incapable of feeling actual pleasure, or pain, but derive their comfort from their fascination with the ease with which they successfully move the goalposts of human thought and manipulate the masses, gathering throngs of unthinking supporters, along the way. For them, it’s the only thrill around.
There is so much I could say that a comment board is too small. Allow me to plant a couple seeds Alan.
In the U.S. think of these Puppet Masters as Old Money. The descendants of the Robber Barons. They have allowed Nouveau Riche to join the ranks over the past century but only minimally and selectively. Recall that Bill Gates was called to task by the U.S. Congress. He was dressed down for his maverick riches and called to kiss the ring. Not the Puppets ring (the politicians) but rather pay homage to the faceless Puppet Masters. He dutifully received his instructions and changed his behavior.
“They who shall not be named” while holding 90% of the countries net worth are small in number and are motivated to maintain iron grip control over the masses out of fear of rebellion. They are the founding fathers of the “Progressive” Movement which hides its racist, misogynist, phobic nature behind a mask of the Social Justice Warrior. Think of the D,C, Swamp as the moat that surrounds their castle walls. From the castle they create their Frankenstein Hobgoblins to threaten the villagers. Recall Mencken’s clear eyed observations as we traversed the first half of the twentieth century: “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it.”
Go back and read Aldous Huxley’s” Brave New World” if you wish to understand the Society they envision for our great unwashed descendants. Drone automatons who will happily vote for these Puppet Master’s form of benevolent dictatorship for the plantation managers on the college campuses have prepared them for their future fate.
Bill’s sin was that he didn’t do any lobbying in DC. As a result the politicians in the pay of his rivals passed laws that harassed his business.
As a result he started “lobbying” like everyone else.
Nothing to do with any old money/new money fantasies.
It isn’t a matter of doing something that works. Just do something to show your climate change virtue. Anything, no matter how stupid.
Well they certainly are demonstrating that with extreme prejudice.
An irrational concept practiced to the detriment of self and society, amounts to virtual self-flagellation. Religious mania is about the only description that fits this lunacy.
Not everybody can be this stupid. I wonder if this is cost cutting merely disguised as religious lunacy?
Is this how the Dark Ages began?
Self-flagellation might seem like a derogatory term, but it is the very core of the problem here.
Self-flagellation was used, and is still used today in some countries by the ultra religious as a form of self punishment for their perceived sins.
That is exactly the motive that the environmental movement promotes to the general public. A self loathing, a sin against nature, and we must pay for our perceived sins. The fact that they reap the gratuity money is incidental (not to them of course).
These people aren’t interested in self-flagellation. To a person they want to ban stuff that other people use.
Correct; but it has the motive and same reasoning behind it. They just blame you for the way they feel.
Excerpt from article:
A News release for “dummies”.
“HA”, you can bet your last cold beer that hospitals, schools, and correctional facilities are already committed to serving the “cheapy” NON-red meat “turkey/pork” hotdogs ……. and not “beef” hotdogs.
You forget, the other religion of the Left besides CAGW is “Health.” “Health” is a euphemism for self-flagellation and mortifying the flesh to assuage wealth guilt– as a virtue competition. The epitome of this performance is to be conspicuously seen in public running until you can’t breathe, then consuming a kale “smoothie” to carpet-bomb your colon, then go bend yourself into inhuman curlicues on a pastel mat in a roomful of fellow travelers in spandex sausage casings. Status symbol is the body itself; the more emaciated, the better. They push a “plant-based diet” because that’s all THEY eat–when your philosophy is anorexia to Save The Planet, enjoyable calories are the mark of a stupid, un-Woke deplorable. This is why DeBlasio’s motorcade crosses the city to take him to the gym (holy temple!) daily.
CAGW hysteria is just more evidence this regimen is quickly shrinking their plant-based brains.
Apparently the climate alarmists have decided to engage in a suicide mission when they go after our beloved processed meats .. not just hotdogs, but all sausage, all bacon, all (I hesitate to call it “meat”) meatstix, all jerky, not even “Bacos” on your salads …
At this point, all normal people – and I mean by that all non-vegans and non-vegetarians” – will revolt and take back the planet from the climate weirdos.
They’re just gone too far now!
This makes that movie “Escape From New York” seem possible.
“What I don’t get, why is processed meat supposed to be less environmentally friendly than unprocessed meat?”
Already defined as unhealthy junk. NY delis hoping to be banned last.
I suspect they categorize all meat that has been butchered, cleaned and wrapped as “processed”.
New Yorkers will be allowed and even encouraged to kill and eat stray dog, cats and pigeons. But they can’t clean them and sell them because then they would be “processed”.
Grim truth, there – see Venezuela. The worst thing is that they are working to destroy the country that bails other places out when they drive themselves into famine. If they succeed, long pig will be on the menu.
The lack of intelligence displayed by Libturd Bedwetters’ isn’t just restricted to climate science you know! It infects all aspects of their Neo-Puritanical Fascism.
At some point in the future (momentum is building, it may not be far away) it will be realised that forcing people onto a diet high in carbohydrate & effectively devoid of saturated fat is in fact a Death Sentence
A long slow death through obesity, mental derangement, diabetes, autoimmune disorders, hearts attacks & strokes, cancer and finally dementia via Lewy Body Syndrome.
When that dam bursts – is it even conceivable that there’s enough money in this entire universe to compensate them?
The mental derangement is already much in evidence. Maybe it’s me, but I don’t recall daily news stories about planes having to turn around because of passengers stripping naked and screaming back in the 70’s.
http://www.weylmann.com/The_Year_of_the_Jackpot.pdf
R.A.H., one of his early stories.
Thank you. I thought I had read all of his output. I enjoyed it.
“Potiphar” would be used in another work, and of course “Barstow” was a major part of the Howard Families. I itched to go through and fix typos, and the optical character recognition seemed to get worse during the story. Especially with the all=caps headlines.
Much of the social weirdness/craziness that he wrote of, here and elsewhere, sure seems to have become part of out world. But unlike the stories, what we are experiencing is an intentional political plan.
The implications are grim indeed.
===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)
Thank you James. I haven’t read Heinlein in a while, really enjoy his work.
Amazing how well this 1952 story relates to today’s continuing redefinition of societal boundaries.
Sure they did, It was called Streaking and the planes still continued on to their destinations, It just wasn’t reported prior to Cell Phone Cameras and videos
“The mental derangement is already much in evidence.”
All of Peta’s posts are cases in point.
CAGW orthodoxy punishes researchers who find inconvenient facts. It corrupts science. Earlier we had the same kind of thing with diet science. Ancel Keys produced the orthodoxy and research that contradicted that did not get published. Doing such research was a career killer. example
When people accept climate orthodoxy, they are ignoring the well documented history of diet orthodoxy. The lesson is that activist scientists (that should be an oxymoron) are not to be trusted.
Your comment about high carb diets is 101% right on. If the government had any honesty at all or carerd one iota for the health of the nation it would eliminate the entire bottom of the food pyramid.
Cut back on the carbs almost 3 years ago. 45 lbs of painless weight loss and no more migraines.
From all evidence Peta has eaten nothing but carbohydrtes since before birth.
Oh, let me.
It’s the SYMBOLISM of the thing. deBlabla Blasio can now say he “did something for the environment” and pat himself on the back. One can only hope he’ll sprain his shoulder doing that, but it’s the “feelz” of it all, you see.
What’s next? Eli’s New York cheesecake coming off the list of stuff we can pound down our pieholes?
Seriously, isn’t it about time these people all started therapy or something, to try to deal up close and personally with their angst-ridden minds, their feelz of helplessness in the face of something they can’t control (like the Earth), and their need for Public Approval?
Just askin’.
It’s Friday. It’s supposed to snow tomorrow and Sunday in my kingdom. Glad to see Mother Nature confounding the timid and fearful Greenbeaners.
I hope they do it because the backlash will be unlike anything these politicians have imagined. This could be the moment people wake up and smell the totalitarianism. #JumpTheShark
Quote “What I don’t get, why is processed meat supposed to be less environmentally friendly than unprocessed meat?”
Don’t greenie elites have to eat too?
They obviously don’t eat the New York Hot dogs. So it doesn’t affect them. Same-ol’ same-ol’.
Kids should just “brown bag” their lunches and eat what they please, just to say “up yours” to their idiot mayor.
Maybe the idiot mayor should try banning hot dogs and Yankee Stadium, and see how that works out.
“Kids should just “brown bag” their lunches and eat what they please, just to say “up yours” to their idiot mayor.”
You have no idea how much big brother controls things. Here in CT the schools actually have lunch inspectors and if the lunch you brought from home does not meet their standards it is thrown out and the child is forced to eat a school lunch which the parents are charged for.
yee-OW-za!
Since when did the lunch room ladies turn into the STASI?
Not just the lunch ladies, the entire school administration.
It happened when the liberals decided that the state knows more about how to raise your kids than you do, and passed laws to make sure you couldn’t fight back.
I once ate a hotdog every inning at Yankee Stadium (the old one). Nothing better than a dirty water dog covered in mustard at the Stadium and watching the Mick drill one deep.
“idiot mayor”. ‘Nuff said.
s/b AT Yankee Stadium…
You would have to be insane to live in NYC !
I think you’ve hit on it – this is really an attempt to reduce the population in NYC!
I thought that trend was already established. Arent they leaving fast enough?
”I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly…”
There is nothing to get. Agenda driven is agenda driven and irrational is irrational.
For those of you that think AGW is a science debate think again. AGW along with open borders is nothing more than a Green, Socialist and Progressive tool being used to destroy Western culture and Western financial systems. Cloward and Piven have very clearly laid out this plan for all to follow. When all is destroyed and chaos abounds the new One World Government will be formed by the .1%.
MR166
100% correct.
Well I don’t get it either, but I’m glad I don’t live in New York. I can watch a disaster scenario as it unfolds, from a safe distance (even as the militant vegetarians/vegans/global-warmers spout their drivel thru the BBC).
will cut purchases of red meat by 50 percent
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Hot dogs are 100% lips and azzholes. No red meat.
That is just Offal…
groan
Isn’t that wat Calimari Rings are>>>Pig Rectum???
Baloney.
Here are the facts about hot dog ingredients:
“Common hot dog sausage ingredients include:[28][not in citation given]
Meat trimmings and fat, e.g. mechanically separated meat, pink slime, meat slurry
Flavorings, such as salt, garlic, and paprika
Preservatives (cure) – typically sodium erythorbate and sodium nitrite
Mechanically separated meat (MSM), mechanically recovered/reclaimed meat (MRM), or mechanically deboned meat (MDM) is a paste-like meat product produced by forcing pureed or ground beef, pork, mutton, turkey or chicken, under high pressure through a sieve or similar device to separate the bone from the edible meat tissue.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog#Natural-casing_hot_dogs
So…not all lips and azzholes, but certainly not all filet mignon, either.
DeBlasio is 100% “lips and azzhole” too. Precious little meat of ANY kind there . . . 😉
“I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away”
Eric, Stop looking for logic…just do as you’re told….by/for the children
‘ the NYC GND involves teaching New Yorkers to make healthy [..] food choices by banning specific, “problematic” dishes from city menus’
Double edge. They want healthy food, read, they want veganism. Red meat is their devil, but so is pork Fridays and Braai Days.
Did I just read ‘make food’ and city menus in the same sentence?! Note to dummies, you don’t ‘make food’ in jails ands hospitals.
Doesn’t that just get your inner fascist going? Let’s control what they eat, what they drink, and what have you. Based on what’s happening on the other coast, at least you can still crap where ever you want to.
Processed meats are supposed to be more carcinogenic.
Maybe they are getting their alarmist stories muddled.
Public health/climate change, one’s as good as another for imposing totalitarianism!
The UN says we have 12 years to act to solve climate change. That leaves 11 years, 11 months and 30 days before we need to do anything.
That’s OK they’ll push the tipping point out another 12 then.
Mustard or tomato sauce..err..ketchup with yours?
Isn’t the UN in New York too? … Coincidence?
/crickets
[mmm … crickets … ]
Somehow, I don’t see New Yorkers accepting Tofu-Dogs with organic sauerkraut as an acceptable substitute.
JJ,
I suspect enterprising hot dog cart vendors will locate right next to the NYC government facilities that can no longer serve tube steaks to hungry and demanding customers Isn’t independent capitalism great?!!
You bring up an interesting point. entrepreneuring people will sell them under the counter, behind the shed, and underground market in plain sight. Just like the alcohol prohibition, it continued to be sold at a higher profit.
and then theres the drive to ban pets cos climate..so where all the waste we and they dont eat going to go?
Im doing my fightback with 8 new pups and 6 big ones permanent;-))))
woof!
If New York bans the hot dog that will be the end of baseball in New York. Climate change means never having to watch another Yankees game. And the problem is?
Let’s see….no hot dogs, no God Bless America and likely no A/C in inside places like bathrooms all in the name of stomping out climate change (and racism). That doesn’t sound at all like a pleasant afternoon or evening for even a casual baseball fan to want to spend their money on!
Meanwhile, street carts selling goat meat on a stick are proliferating like mushrooms after a midnight rain. Guess who the owners are . . . and protein eaters by population alone will likely inherit the earth. Better start studying the Koran!
Do you see any goats in New York City? Perhaps ratta.
New York and San Francisco should become sister cities, waltzing arm-in-arm toward decrepitude.
At one point in the aftermath of the English Revolution, after the Puritan parliament kept putting one outrageous law after another on the backs of the people, they looked up and said “know what? Eff you!”
No more Puritans.
When will we teach that point here?
Hmmmmm, the Diggers and levellers, arguably the equivalent of today’s Green Fanatics were given short shrift by the Protectorate.
As for a Puritan Parliament, whilst the Protectorate had to lean that way due to segments of public opinion, the Lord Protector was to the end eager to keep as many on board as possible, and consequently limited the power of the extremists.
When you cut through all of the idiosyncratic concepts of the left, it comes down to one thing.
Someone has an anxiety and thinks that it can be relieved by forcing someone else to do something they would not otherwise do.
A revulsion of meat is an example.
In Europe in the 1930s someone was anxious about race. The attempt was to make a perfect race as well as land space.
That was national socialism. International socialists were out to create the “perfect” man, and murdered some 100 million before the passion exhausted itself.
Now the control freaks are determined to set the temperature of the nearest planet at the “perfect” temperature. To 1.5 or 2.0 degrees above an arbitrary level. Such precision!
Another incredible combination of ambition and audacity.
The really scary part is that such peoples’ anxieties can never be relieved.