New York to Ban Hot Dogs Because Climate Change

New York Hot Dog
Monks Hot Dog, author Mark H. Anbinder

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

New York’s famous hot dogs could soon be a thing of the past.

NYC Considering Banning HOT DOGS And Other Processed Meats Over Climate Change

April 25, 2019

New York City may be on the verge of outlawing its signature encased meat, the hot dog, alongside other “processed meats,” in a bid to make New Yorkers more climate conscious.

Radio station Z100 reports that Mayor Bill de Blaiso signed into law New York’s own version of the “Green New Deal” last week, and part of the NYC GND involves teaching New Yorkers to make healthy, environmentally friendly food choices by banning specific, “problematic” dishes from city menus.

“The plan,” Z100 says, “will cut purchases of red meat by 50 percent in its city-controlled facilities such as hospitals, schools, and correctional facilities. The new commitment builds off of the Meatless Mondays campaign that was adopted by all NYC schools in 2017.”

New Yorkers will be able to keep their precious hot dog street carts, and tourists will still be able to fill up on dirty water dogs in Times Square — at least for now. The Green New Deal only prohibits city facilities from buying and serving hot dogs and other processed meats in bulk to serve in city-run cafeterias, mostly located in city office buildings, jails, and schools.

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What I don’t get, why is processed meat supposed to be less environmentally friendly than unprocessed meat?

Processed meat normally has non meat fillers, like breadcrumbs or other grains or cereals, and traditionally includes animal parts which might otherwise be discarded. I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away.

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Tom Abbott
April 26, 2019 6:16 am

The radical Democrats are not helping their re-election prospects with all these crazy plans they are proposing.

That’s bad for Democrats, but good for the country since the Democrat craziness will result in more conservatives being elected.

The Democrats just keep getting farther and farther out into Left Field. They are all climbing on the Crazy Train.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 26, 2019 7:04 am

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
– Pastor Martin Niemöller

Well OK – NOW they’ve gone too far.
Gimme back my !@#$%^&* hot dogs!

April 26, 2019 8:40 am

Yes, it was the wurst that they could do, wasn’t it?

Reply to  shrnfr
April 26, 2019 2:19 pm

“It was the best of times, it was the wurst of times…”

“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.”
– Charles Dickens, “A Tale of Two Cities”, 1859

April 26, 2019 6:21 pm


James Bull
April 27, 2019 12:20 am

I thank you that I was not eating any processed meat products nor imbibing any infused Camellia sinensis leaves mixed with full fat dairy products as my computer and screen would now be covered in it.
Thank you for a great laugh.
I can see business plummeting at the New York run centres and local free market enterprise picking up a lot of trade.

James Bull

Mike McMillan
April 27, 2019 2:38 am

Banning only processed meats, like bologna, pastrami, corned beef? Thank goodness they aren’t banning Jimmy Dean sausage.

April 27, 2019 5:44 am

Mike McMillan, the old “Jimmy Dean Show” is still on directv ch 345. Actually kinda entertaining — no PCism back then.

Michael S. Kelly LS BSA, Ret
Reply to  shrnfr
April 28, 2019 2:38 am
Reply to  shrnfr
May 1, 2019 11:27 am

ROFL or RFOL..whatever

Joel Snider
April 26, 2019 11:18 am

They have to keep feeding their self-indulgent warm-fuzzy, so they have to keep banning things to maintain that virtue-signal.

So what will they ban tomorrow – or the next day? Or the day after that?

Reply to  Joel Snider
April 26, 2019 6:10 pm

Whatever it is, you can bet that it will not be something that they use/eat.

April 28, 2019 5:57 pm

I just finished off two hot dogs made with grilled All beef Ball Park Franks. With sauerkraut, chopped onions, cheese and sweet relish. And a sauce made of yellow mustard and ketchup. Yum. Take that, deBlasio!

April 28, 2019 5:57 pm

I just finished off two hot dogs made with grilled All beef Ball Park Franks. With sauerkraut, chopped onions, cheese and sweet relish. And a sauce made of yellow mustard and ketchup. Yum. Take that, deBlasio!

Mark Broderick
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 26, 2019 7:24 am

Shhhhhhh, don’t tell them…

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 26, 2019 7:38 am

That’s the best part about this. Voters don’t want New York to join the EU and De Blasio is showing them that is exactly the sort of thing he would consider a brilliant idea, no matter how absurd.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 26, 2019 8:48 am

Tom the leftists have a grander plan and a method to their madness. They are in no hurry in the steady march to totalitarianism. This radical advance and retreat has a purpose. 3 steps forward, 2 steps back.

This tactic serves a dual strategic purpose: First, advance until voices of protest arise, then back down but not quite all the way. After all, the moderate is conciliatory. One of their tenants is compromise. Something the Left never does without first moving so far forward that the compromise advances their cause. Second it provides fodder for the Public Schools, Universities and Propaganda Press to instill the notion in our youth that theirs on the left, is the correct path and musters majority support from the Future Voters of America.

Note the cleverness of simultaneously having other voices on the left call for voter rights for felons (3 steps forward). The moderates will claim victory when they beat back the felon vote by allowing for compromise on lowering the voting age for non-felons to 16. Voila 2 steps back yet their advance continues. 2 more generations and felons will have the vote. They are the unrelenting wave on a cliff face.

Reply to  Bill Powers
April 26, 2019 10:16 am

Good Points!!!!!

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Bill Powers
April 26, 2019 11:46 am

Thanks, Bill.
You and others in this thread have illuminated some of the methods used to move us to tyranny. It isn’t enough to identify the methods used by the usurpers of power, we must also explore their motivations, if we have any hope at all of keeping at least some of humanity, free from the bonds of the totalitarians.

It seems that the more implausible the idea which is fed to us, the faster a cause rallies behind that idea. Neither the sycophant pseudo- barons like de Blasio, nor the captured press corps, originate those ideas which they promote and defend. Those ideas are the product of a comparative handful of puppet masters behind the scenes, who are themselves, the very worst sort of human beings. It isn’t enough to just apply the standard labels of sociopath and psychopath to those would- be rulers. They know who and what they are and labels don’t bother them.

Those dark masters are nearly incapable of feeling actual pleasure, or pain, but derive their comfort from their fascination with the ease with which they successfully move the goalposts of human thought and manipulate the masses, gathering throngs of unthinking supporters, along the way. For them, it’s the only thrill around.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Alan Robertson
April 26, 2019 2:09 pm

There is so much I could say that a comment board is too small. Allow me to plant a couple seeds Alan.
In the U.S. think of these Puppet Masters as Old Money. The descendants of the Robber Barons. They have allowed Nouveau Riche to join the ranks over the past century but only minimally and selectively. Recall that Bill Gates was called to task by the U.S. Congress. He was dressed down for his maverick riches and called to kiss the ring. Not the Puppets ring (the politicians) but rather pay homage to the faceless Puppet Masters. He dutifully received his instructions and changed his behavior.
“They who shall not be named” while holding 90% of the countries net worth are small in number and are motivated to maintain iron grip control over the masses out of fear of rebellion. They are the founding fathers of the “Progressive” Movement which hides its racist, misogynist, phobic nature behind a mask of the Social Justice Warrior. Think of the D,C, Swamp as the moat that surrounds their castle walls. From the castle they create their Frankenstein Hobgoblins to threaten the villagers. Recall Mencken’s clear eyed observations as we traversed the first half of the twentieth century: “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it.”
Go back and read Aldous Huxley’s” Brave New World” if you wish to understand the Society they envision for our great unwashed descendants. Drone automatons who will happily vote for these Puppet Master’s form of benevolent dictatorship for the plantation managers on the college campuses have prepared them for their future fate.

Reply to  Bill Powers
April 26, 2019 6:12 pm

Bill’s sin was that he didn’t do any lobbying in DC. As a result the politicians in the pay of his rivals passed laws that harassed his business.
As a result he started “lobbying” like everyone else.
Nothing to do with any old money/new money fantasies.

April 26, 2019 6:23 am

It isn’t a matter of doing something that works. Just do something to show your climate change virtue. Anything, no matter how stupid.

Reply to  Hivemind
April 26, 2019 7:12 am

Well they certainly are demonstrating that with extreme prejudice.
An irrational concept practiced to the detriment of self and society, amounts to virtual self-flagellation. Religious mania is about the only description that fits this lunacy.

Not everybody can be this stupid. I wonder if this is cost cutting merely disguised as religious lunacy?

Is this how the Dark Ages began?

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 26, 2019 2:53 pm

Self-flagellation might seem like a derogatory term, but it is the very core of the problem here.

Self-flagellation was used, and is still used today in some countries by the ultra religious as a form of self punishment for their perceived sins.

That is exactly the motive that the environmental movement promotes to the general public. A self loathing, a sin against nature, and we must pay for our perceived sins. The fact that they reap the gratuity money is incidental (not to them of course).

Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
April 26, 2019 6:13 pm

These people aren’t interested in self-flagellation. To a person they want to ban stuff that other people use.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  MarkW
April 26, 2019 8:52 pm

Correct; but it has the motive and same reasoning behind it. They just blame you for the way they feel.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Hivemind
April 26, 2019 7:38 am

Excerpt from article:

“The plan,” Z100 says, “will cut purchases of red meat by 50 percent in its city-controlled facilities such as hospitals, schools, and correctional facilities.

A News release for “dummies”.

“HA”, you can bet your last cold beer that hospitals, schools, and correctional facilities are already committed to serving the “cheapy” NON-red meat “turkey/pork” hotdogs ……. and not “beef” hotdogs.

Reply to  Hivemind
April 26, 2019 9:13 am

You forget, the other religion of the Left besides CAGW is “Health.” “Health” is a euphemism for self-flagellation and mortifying the flesh to assuage wealth guilt– as a virtue competition. The epitome of this performance is to be conspicuously seen in public running until you can’t breathe, then consuming a kale “smoothie” to carpet-bomb your colon, then go bend yourself into inhuman curlicues on a pastel mat in a roomful of fellow travelers in spandex sausage casings. Status symbol is the body itself; the more emaciated, the better. They push a “plant-based diet” because that’s all THEY eat–when your philosophy is anorexia to Save The Planet, enjoyable calories are the mark of a stupid, un-Woke deplorable. This is why DeBlasio’s motorcade crosses the city to take him to the gym (holy temple!) daily.

CAGW hysteria is just more evidence this regimen is quickly shrinking their plant-based brains.

Reply to  Hivemind
April 26, 2019 9:18 am

Apparently the climate alarmists have decided to engage in a suicide mission when they go after our beloved processed meats .. not just hotdogs, but all sausage, all bacon, all (I hesitate to call it “meat”) meatstix, all jerky, not even “Bacos” on your salads …

At this point, all normal people – and I mean by that all non-vegans and non-vegetarians” – will revolt and take back the planet from the climate weirdos.

They’re just gone too far now!

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Duane
April 26, 2019 3:40 pm

This makes that movie “Escape From New York” seem possible.

Coach Springer
April 26, 2019 6:23 am

“What I don’t get, why is processed meat supposed to be less environmentally friendly than unprocessed meat?”

Already defined as unhealthy junk. NY delis hoping to be banned last.

Reply to  Coach Springer
April 26, 2019 7:17 am

I suspect they categorize all meat that has been butchered, cleaned and wrapped as “processed”.

New Yorkers will be allowed and even encouraged to kill and eat stray dog, cats and pigeons. But they can’t clean them and sell them because then they would be “processed”.

Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 26, 2019 7:46 am

Grim truth, there – see Venezuela. The worst thing is that they are working to destroy the country that bails other places out when they drive themselves into famine. If they succeed, long pig will be on the menu.

April 26, 2019 6:30 am

The lack of intelligence displayed by Libturd Bedwetters’ isn’t just restricted to climate science you know! It infects all aspects of their Neo-Puritanical Fascism.

Peta of Newark
April 26, 2019 6:33 am

At some point in the future (momentum is building, it may not be far away) it will be realised that forcing people onto a diet high in carbohydrate & effectively devoid of saturated fat is in fact a Death Sentence

A long slow death through obesity, mental derangement, diabetes, autoimmune disorders, hearts attacks & strokes, cancer and finally dementia via Lewy Body Syndrome.

When that dam bursts – is it even conceivable that there’s enough money in this entire universe to compensate them?

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 26, 2019 9:16 am

The mental derangement is already much in evidence. Maybe it’s me, but I don’t recall daily news stories about planes having to turn around because of passengers stripping naked and screaming back in the 70’s.

James Schrumpf
Reply to  Goldrider
April 26, 2019 10:00 am

R.A.H., one of his early stories.

Reply to  James Schrumpf
April 27, 2019 11:07 am

Thank you. I thought I had read all of his output. I enjoyed it.

“Potiphar” would be used in another work, and of course “Barstow” was a major part of the Howard Families. I itched to go through and fix typos, and the optical character recognition seemed to get worse during the story. Especially with the all=caps headlines.

Much of the social weirdness/craziness that he wrote of, here and elsewhere, sure seems to have become part of out world. But unlike the stories, what we are experiencing is an intentional political plan.

The implications are grim indeed.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)

Reply to  James Schrumpf
April 28, 2019 9:47 pm

Thank you James. I haven’t read Heinlein in a while, really enjoy his work.

Amazing how well this 1952 story relates to today’s continuing redefinition of societal boundaries.

Bryan A
Reply to  Goldrider
April 26, 2019 12:28 pm

Sure they did, It was called Streaking and the planes still continued on to their destinations, It just wasn’t reported prior to Cell Phone Cameras and videos

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Goldrider
April 26, 2019 5:42 pm

“The mental derangement is already much in evidence.”

All of Peta’s posts are cases in point.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 26, 2019 9:52 am

CAGW orthodoxy punishes researchers who find inconvenient facts. It corrupts science. Earlier we had the same kind of thing with diet science. Ancel Keys produced the orthodoxy and research that contradicted that did not get published. Doing such research was a career killer. example

When people accept climate orthodoxy, they are ignoring the well documented history of diet orthodoxy. The lesson is that activist scientists (that should be an oxymoron) are not to be trusted.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 26, 2019 9:57 am

Your comment about high carb diets is 101% right on. If the government had any honesty at all or carerd one iota for the health of the nation it would eliminate the entire bottom of the food pyramid.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 26, 2019 11:50 am

Cut back on the carbs almost 3 years ago. 45 lbs of painless weight loss and no more migraines.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 26, 2019 6:15 pm

From all evidence Peta has eaten nothing but carbohydrtes since before birth.

April 26, 2019 6:35 am

Oh, let me.

It’s the SYMBOLISM of the thing. deBlabla Blasio can now say he “did something for the environment” and pat himself on the back. One can only hope he’ll sprain his shoulder doing that, but it’s the “feelz” of it all, you see.

What’s next? Eli’s New York cheesecake coming off the list of stuff we can pound down our pieholes?

Seriously, isn’t it about time these people all started therapy or something, to try to deal up close and personally with their angst-ridden minds, their feelz of helplessness in the face of something they can’t control (like the Earth), and their need for Public Approval?

Just askin’.

It’s Friday. It’s supposed to snow tomorrow and Sunday in my kingdom. Glad to see Mother Nature confounding the timid and fearful Greenbeaners.

April 26, 2019 6:36 am

I hope they do it because the backlash will be unlike anything these politicians have imagined. This could be the moment people wake up and smell the totalitarianism. #JumpTheShark

April 26, 2019 6:36 am

Quote “What I don’t get, why is processed meat supposed to be less environmentally friendly than unprocessed meat?”

Don’t greenie elites have to eat too?

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Carefix
April 26, 2019 2:59 pm

They obviously don’t eat the New York Hot dogs. So it doesn’t affect them. Same-ol’ same-ol’.

AGW is not Science
April 26, 2019 6:37 am

Kids should just “brown bag” their lunches and eat what they please, just to say “up yours” to their idiot mayor.

Maybe the idiot mayor should try banning hot dogs and Yankee Stadium, and see how that works out.

Reply to  AGW is not Science
April 26, 2019 7:13 am

“Kids should just “brown bag” their lunches and eat what they please, just to say “up yours” to their idiot mayor.”
You have no idea how much big brother controls things. Here in CT the schools actually have lunch inspectors and if the lunch you brought from home does not meet their standards it is thrown out and the child is forced to eat a school lunch which the parents are charged for.

Reply to  MR166
April 26, 2019 9:00 am


Since when did the lunch room ladies turn into the STASI?

Reply to  H.R.
April 26, 2019 6:16 pm

Not just the lunch ladies, the entire school administration.
It happened when the liberals decided that the state knows more about how to raise your kids than you do, and passed laws to make sure you couldn’t fight back.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  AGW is not Science
April 26, 2019 7:25 am

I once ate a hotdog every inning at Yankee Stadium (the old one). Nothing better than a dirty water dog covered in mustard at the Stadium and watching the Mick drill one deep.

Reply to  AGW is not Science
April 27, 2019 8:37 am

“idiot mayor”. ‘Nuff said.

AGW is not Science
April 26, 2019 6:38 am

s/b AT Yankee Stadium…

April 26, 2019 6:41 am

You would have to be insane to live in NYC !

Grady Patterson
Reply to  Marcus
April 26, 2019 12:49 pm

I think you’ve hit on it – this is really an attempt to reduce the population in NYC!

Reply to  Grady Patterson
April 26, 2019 11:04 pm

I thought that trend was already established. Arent they leaving fast enough?

April 26, 2019 6:41 am

”I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly…”

There is nothing to get. Agenda driven is agenda driven and irrational is irrational.

April 26, 2019 6:44 am

For those of you that think AGW is a science debate think again. AGW along with open borders is nothing more than a Green, Socialist and Progressive tool being used to destroy Western culture and Western financial systems. Cloward and Piven have very clearly laid out this plan for all to follow. When all is destroyed and chaos abounds the new One World Government will be formed by the .1%.

Old England
Reply to  MR166
April 26, 2019 2:14 pm

100% correct.

michael hart
April 26, 2019 6:50 am

“I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away.”

Well I don’t get it either, but I’m glad I don’t live in New York. I can watch a disaster scenario as it unfolds, from a safe distance (even as the militant vegetarians/vegans/global-warmers spout their drivel thru the BBC).

ferd berple
April 26, 2019 6:51 am

will cut purchases of red meat by 50 percent
Hot dogs are 100% lips and azzholes. No red meat.

Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 8:29 am

That is just Offal…

Reply to  Earthling2
April 26, 2019 9:03 am


Bryan A
Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 12:33 pm

Isn’t that wat Calimari Rings are>>>Pig Rectum???

Anna Keppa
Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 3:06 pm


Here are the facts about hot dog ingredients:

“Common hot dog sausage ingredients include:[28][not in citation given]

Meat trimmings and fat, e.g. mechanically separated meat, pink slime, meat slurry
Flavorings, such as salt, garlic, and paprika
Preservatives (cure) – typically sodium erythorbate and sodium nitrite

Mechanically separated meat (MSM), mechanically recovered/reclaimed meat (MRM), or mechanically deboned meat (MDM) is a paste-like meat product produced by forcing pureed or ground beef, pork, mutton, turkey or chicken, under high pressure through a sieve or similar device to separate the bone from the edible meat tissue.”

So…not all lips and azzholes, but certainly not all filet mignon, either.

Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 3:41 pm

DeBlasio is 100% “lips and azzhole” too. Precious little meat of ANY kind there . . . 😉

April 26, 2019 6:52 am

“I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away”

Eric, Stop looking for logic…just do as you’re told….by/for the children

Reply to  saveenergy
April 26, 2019 11:59 am

‘ the NYC GND involves teaching New Yorkers to make healthy [..] food choices by banning specific, “problematic” dishes from city menus’

Double edge. They want healthy food, read, they want veganism. Red meat is their devil, but so is pork Fridays and Braai Days.

Did I just read ‘make food’ and city menus in the same sentence?! Note to dummies, you don’t ‘make food’ in jails ands hospitals.

April 26, 2019 6:54 am

Doesn’t that just get your inner fascist going? Let’s control what they eat, what they drink, and what have you. Based on what’s happening on the other coast, at least you can still crap where ever you want to.

April 26, 2019 6:54 am

Processed meats are supposed to be more carcinogenic.
Maybe they are getting their alarmist stories muddled.
Public health/climate change, one’s as good as another for imposing totalitarianism!

ferd berple
April 26, 2019 6:54 am

The UN says we have 12 years to act to solve climate change. That leaves 11 years, 11 months and 30 days before we need to do anything.

Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 7:10 am

That’s OK they’ll push the tipping point out another 12 then.
Mustard or tomato sauce..err..ketchup with yours?

Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 6:47 pm

Isn’t the UN in New York too? … Coincidence?


[mmm … crickets … ]

Jon Jewett
April 26, 2019 6:57 am

Somehow, I don’t see New Yorkers accepting Tofu-Dogs with organic sauerkraut as an acceptable substitute.

J Mac
Reply to  Jon Jewett
April 26, 2019 10:48 am

I suspect enterprising hot dog cart vendors will locate right next to the NYC government facilities that can no longer serve tube steaks to hungry and demanding customers Isn’t independent capitalism great?!!

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  J Mac
April 26, 2019 3:03 pm

You bring up an interesting point. entrepreneuring people will sell them under the counter, behind the shed, and underground market in plain sight. Just like the alcohol prohibition, it continued to be sold at a higher profit.

April 26, 2019 6:58 am

and then theres the drive to ban pets cos where all the waste we and they dont eat going to go?
Im doing my fightback with 8 new pups and 6 big ones permanent;-))))

ferd berple
April 26, 2019 7:00 am

If New York bans the hot dog that will be the end of baseball in New York. Climate change means never having to watch another Yankees game. And the problem is?

lee Riffee
Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 9:12 am

Let’s see….no hot dogs, no God Bless America and likely no A/C in inside places like bathrooms all in the name of stomping out climate change (and racism). That doesn’t sound at all like a pleasant afternoon or evening for even a casual baseball fan to want to spend their money on!

Reply to  ferd berple
April 26, 2019 9:20 am

Meanwhile, street carts selling goat meat on a stick are proliferating like mushrooms after a midnight rain. Guess who the owners are . . . and protein eaters by population alone will likely inherit the earth. Better start studying the Koran!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Goldrider
April 26, 2019 12:12 pm

Do you see any goats in New York City? Perhaps ratta.

April 26, 2019 7:01 am

New York and San Francisco should become sister cities, waltzing arm-in-arm toward decrepitude.

Bill P.
April 26, 2019 7:02 am

At one point in the aftermath of the English Revolution, after the Puritan parliament kept putting one outrageous law after another on the backs of the people, they looked up and said “know what? Eff you!”

No more Puritans.

When will we teach that point here?

Reply to  Bill P.
April 26, 2019 8:06 am

Hmmmmm, the Diggers and levellers, arguably the equivalent of today’s Green Fanatics were given short shrift by the Protectorate.

As for a Puritan Parliament, whilst the Protectorate had to lean that way due to segments of public opinion, the Lord Protector was to the end eager to keep as many on board as possible, and consequently limited the power of the extremists.

April 26, 2019 7:03 am

When you cut through all of the idiosyncratic concepts of the left, it comes down to one thing.
Someone has an anxiety and thinks that it can be relieved by forcing someone else to do something they would not otherwise do.
A revulsion of meat is an example.
In Europe in the 1930s someone was anxious about race. The attempt was to make a perfect race as well as land space.
That was national socialism. International socialists were out to create the “perfect” man, and murdered some 100 million before the passion exhausted itself.
Now the control freaks are determined to set the temperature of the nearest planet at the “perfect” temperature. To 1.5 or 2.0 degrees above an arbitrary level. Such precision!
Another incredible combination of ambition and audacity.
The really scary part is that such peoples’ anxieties can never be relieved.

April 26, 2019 7:07 am

This is just the start of more bans and taxes to come.

April 26, 2019 7:09 am

I would love to go to NYC and have a ride in a horse drawn carriage eat a hotdog and drink a sixteen ounce soda, but noooo the crazies have taken over.

Reply to  Patrick
April 26, 2019 8:21 am

With the invitation, I would join you.
In a pleasant protest.

April 26, 2019 7:13 am

We all scoff at these idiotic ideas by crazed politicians but let’s remember, democrat voters elected them. Doesn’t say much for many people allowed to vote.

michael hart
Reply to  John
April 26, 2019 8:29 am

Aye, and there lies the rub.
I’m sure that if we got a quiet, honest, one-on-one conversation with most of these politicians they would say “Yes, that’s f-ing stupid, but I have to get re-elected, so gimme a break.”
We need to find a way to help politicians call out the BS.

Reply to  michael hart
April 26, 2019 6:54 pm

That’s exactly the sort of politician who should never be elected.

No giving of ‘break’s, cut-down the dead-wood – sorted.

Reply to  John
April 26, 2019 9:22 am

Voter turnout to re-elect DeBlasio was 14%. That means everyone else stayed home. You get the government you’re willing to put up with.

April 26, 2019 7:21 am

There goes Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating contest on July 4th.

Tom in Florida
April 26, 2019 7:28 am

“Processed meat normally has non meat fillers, like breadcrumbs or other grains or cereals, and traditionally includes animal parts which might otherwise be discarded.”

That is the original “don’t ask, don’t tell”.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
April 26, 2019 8:09 am

The Walls have Ears.

Walls formerly being a brand of cheap sausages here in the UK 🙂

Ken Irwin
Reply to  Tom in Florida
April 26, 2019 8:15 am

Whenever on of my loony friends goes on about a healthy diet – I ask them to explain to a starving person why a big Mac or a hotdog is bad for them.

There is no such thing as junk food – only unhealthy dietary habits – like over eating.

Try starving yourself as a cure for this insanity.

Mark Broderick
April 26, 2019 7:32 am

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Joel O’Bryan
April 26, 2019 7:54 am

It’s not about the meat per se. It’s about control.
New Yorkers are being conditioned to accept Big Brother telling them what to eat, drink, say, think.

Frederick Michael
April 26, 2019 8:01 am

Next they’ll ban rye bread.

April 26, 2019 8:03 am

Never call a Leftwinger crazy…they are crazy like a fox, they never ask a question they don’t have the answer for and never propose a course of action without the necessary apparatus to implement it. They OWN public “education”, higher education, news, entertainment, sports, even libraries. Meatless Monday is the “secular” version of Fish Friday people of a certain age will remember. Beware.

April 26, 2019 8:04 am

That’s attributed to Bismarck, but The Daily Cleveland Herald, Mar. 29, 1869, quoted the lawyer-poet John Godfrey Saxe that ‘Laws, like sausages, cease to inspire respect in proportion as we know how they are made.'”

How did NY push such an insane law ?

Hoel O’Bryan
Reply to  bonbon
April 26, 2019 10:12 am

Its not a law. Its merely the mayor directing what can/cannot be served in NYC city-owned facilities.

April 26, 2019 8:04 am

The UK infection is spreading rapidly……in NY.

John Endicott
Reply to  ResourceGuy
April 26, 2019 10:59 am

Here in the US of A it’s easy to tell where the infection is likely to take root. If the state is blue, it’s highly susceptible to infection, if the state is red, it likely has a good amount of resistance to the infection.

Reply to  John Endicott
April 26, 2019 1:15 pm

Unless by organized shaming or court order the infection is imposed on those other areas.

April 26, 2019 8:29 am

Rejoice comrades! Party directive 24601 has removed all foods that are produced by decadent capitalists corporations and the immoral rich people that do nothing but destroy the environment and the worker’s morale. Rejoice because your diet is now guaranteed to protect your moral health, physical health, and the balance of the earth. No longer will the degenerate foods of hot dogs, hamburgers, bacon, bar-b-que, french fries, and sodas be allowed to ruin the environment or your well-being. To ensure that all your foods are environmentally and emotionally safe, please consult the new People’s Food Safety Counsel that will be appearing in your government approved living quarters.

In addition, party directive 24601 will also protect the growing minds of our youths who are still vulnerable to nefarious capitalists plots by banning prize toys at all restaurants. The restaurants will now require all prizes for children to be a selection of the following: Mao’s Little Red Book, a Coexist bumper sticker, a collection of poems by Fidel Castro, Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto, and a poster of Vladimir Lenin.

Reply to  Wade
April 26, 2019 9:04 am

“The restaurants will now require all prizes for children to be a selection of the following: Mao’s Little Red Book, a Coexist bumper sticker, a collection of poems by Fidel Castro, Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto, and a poster of Vladimir Lenin.”

Hey kids! Collect them all!

April 26, 2019 8:35 am

They should impose Cold Dogs for everyone !

Bradley D. Barnes, MBA
April 26, 2019 8:45 am

We need to Ban Marshmellows. Think of all that Carbon. And cut down all the trees and put of miles and miles of industrial electrical infrastructure to run inefficient electricity produces where it was not needed to places where they leave the lights on unnecessarily. But Google and Facebook will need lots of those data farms running on Taxpayer subsidized running credits, with ratepayers paying higher electricity prices. Companies too, who will need to raise their prices. Or at least make the marshmellows green, the green weenies would feell better

April 26, 2019 8:47 am

This could get *much* more interesting – read Ken Wheaton’s “Bacon and Egg Man” – and keep in mind that that book talks about “King Mike”, not “King William”.

Mumbles McGuirck
April 26, 2019 8:55 am

Talk about your tipping points. This may be the one where New Yawkers are finally pushed to react against the Liberal Oligarchy. It may be just in the school lunch program for now, but the Handwriting is on The Wall. (Daniel 5:1-31) They’ll be imposing this ban on everyone else, soon enough. It’s like that trope in revenge movies, the bad guy ruins a man’s job, drives away his sweetheart, then burns down his home and he slowly steams. But then he KILLS HIS DOG and there is no stopping him. He is justified in everything he brings down on the head of the bad guy. Buh-bye DiBlasio.

April 26, 2019 9:00 am

Our April Fools day in the U.K. is on the 1st

Is it later in the month in the US?

John Endicott
Reply to  CliveH
April 26, 2019 10:56 am

Unfortunately, no. As much as you might wish to think this is a mere April jest, it sadly is not so.

Reply to  CliveH
April 26, 2019 6:20 pm

Ours is apparently, all year round.

Max Porath
April 26, 2019 9:05 am

“Problematic dishes…” An interesting concept but, who is it that defines what is problematic and what the scope of the definition will ultimately be? Allan MacRae quoted Pastor Martin Niemoller up thread a ways and the citation is spot on in as far as the progression of such edicts go. Today it will be the humble hotdog. Tomorrow it will be fried foods, of any kind, and then, eventually, any food stuff that is not from an officially sanctioned, government sponsored and approved, producer. The black market price of a 1oz bag of potato chips will be astounding and, certainly, the death penalty for anyone caught smuggling illicit cupcakes into the island of Manhattan with the rainbow sprinkles making it a special circumstances crime.

Of course, I jest. Such a circumstance would be completely absurd but how much of what we are seeing played out now in western civilization would have seemed just as absurd 30 years ago? Banning hotdogs is absurd. But, so is banning plastic straws, incandescent lightbulbs, plastic grocery bags… See what I mean?



April 26, 2019 9:07 am

NYC is doing a bang up job of getting people to move away. First, it’s the taxes and now it’s the hotdogs. Folks are already starting to vote with their feet.

Mick Garcia
April 26, 2019 9:10 am Processed Meats Cause Cancer And Have No Effect On The Climate. I Oppose Banning Hotdogs In Private Establishments.

Russell Johnson
April 26, 2019 9:17 am

Gee, isn’t fascist central, city menu planning a wonderful thing? What’s next banning all microwave ovens?

April 26, 2019 9:20 am

Why not ban Socialism? Problem solved!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  SasjaL
April 26, 2019 12:06 pm

That, detective, is the right question.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  SasjaL
April 26, 2019 3:10 pm

They don’t see it as Socialism. To them it’s social justice, equality, diversity. So they wouldn’t recognize it.

Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
April 26, 2019 11:29 pm

If it walks like a duck …

Jon Salmi
April 26, 2019 9:21 am

Perhaps this will speed up the current exodus from NYC.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Jon Salmi
April 26, 2019 10:35 am

At the very least it will increase traffic into New Jersey so people can enjoy a good ‘ripper’.

John Endicott
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
April 26, 2019 10:49 am

I wouldn’t count on that Mumbles. Have you looked at NJ? It’s a blue state with it’s on far-left loonies to contend with. Case in point: It currently has it’s own bill in the state legislature to ban plastic bags, Styrofoam cups and plastic straws. If it ever makes it out of the legislature, it’s very likely that Gov. Phil Murphy (D) will sign it. It seem whatever loony ideas NY comes up with, NJ soon follows suit (at least when the D’s are in charge, Occasionally the R’s get to sit in the Governor’s chair and play havoc with traffic on the NY-NJ bridges 😉 )

John Endicott
Reply to  Jon Salmi
April 26, 2019 11:01 am

Unfortunately, Jon, the ex-NYers just bring their loony-left ideas with them and try to infect wherever they end up with the same kind of government that they fled.

Max Porath
Reply to  John Endicott
April 26, 2019 12:35 pm

For example…California.


April 26, 2019 9:24 am

Okay, I’m going to have to put this one in the same category as the middle-east country that banned “Yo-Yo’s” because they were causing a drought.

Robert of Texas
April 26, 2019 9:25 am

OK, enough! You guys are just making this stuff up now… Not even New York liberals are this stupid!

(Are they?)

How can banning hotdogs fight climate change? I mean, if it’s a beef hotdog, then that is one less farting cow.

Com’on…Fess up. This IS a joke….Right?

John Endicott
Reply to  Robert of Texas
April 26, 2019 11:04 am

Never underestimate the stupidity of far-left “liberals” (they’re not really liberal) or “progressives” (they’re not really progressive) or whatever term they identify with today.

April 26, 2019 9:30 am

Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad. – Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Our enemies have reached the madness stage.

April 26, 2019 9:35 am

Meat madness.
Meat mania.

Weenie worriers.
Weenie warriors.

… just brainstorming some appropriate phrases here.

If I eat hotdogs without fear or guilt, does this make me a hotdog denier?

I’m pro meat.

Marginalizing hotdog eaters in this fashion is clearly carnivoracist.

There’s so much stupidity here that I hardly know where to start making fun of it.

April 26, 2019 9:37 am

As if anyone needed yet another reason not to live in NYC.


April 26, 2019 9:42 am

No one hates this new regulation more than I. You see I live in Florida and we have already had a million NYers relocate here bringing a lot of NY politics with them just due to the absurd taxes in NY. Now, no hot dogs! A million more displaced persons will be coming and we are FULL!

Reply to  Rocketdan
April 26, 2019 11:00 am

Sounds like President Trump needs to secure funding for 2 more walls. One to surround the Peoples Republic of California and one for the Soviet Socialist State of New York (we might be able to save tax payer money by just building around the city)

April 26, 2019 9:49 am

“Processed meat normally has non meat fillers, like breadcrumbs or other grains or cereals, and traditionally includes animal parts which might otherwise be discarded. I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away.”

The rich eat steak and the poor eat processed meat. The eco-fascists only want to hurt the poor.

Mind you Soylent Green is “green.”

April 26, 2019 10:06 am

You don’t get it.
The idea is not to do good. It’s to hurt those who don’t eat as you do.

John Endicott
Reply to  MarkW
April 26, 2019 10:41 am

Indeed, the goal isn’t to do good (whether the purported “noble cause” is health or climate or whatever). It’s to control others and to signal how virtuous they are while they stomp their bootheels on those others.

April 26, 2019 10:31 am

Well, this is a good first step. Cows and methane and all.
But, now we await the other shoe to drop: Rice cultivation and methane.

I wonder if ANYBODY in involved every asked that question?

April 26, 2019 10:57 am

This a simply madness.

E J Zuiderwijk
April 26, 2019 11:37 am

If I were a lawyer in New York I would start preparations for a very lucrative business in litigation relating to the loss of jobs/livelihoods through ludicrous climate legislation. Can you imagine the number of seriously angry people when the climate farce comes crashing down and the compensation they will demand?

April 26, 2019 12:58 pm

I forget the name of the joint, it was in Palatine, Illinois.
Jumbo hot dog wrapped in bacon then deep fried, melted cheddar cheese as a topping.
Kept me and my crew working thru the afternoons.
Sorry if I’m slathering as I write this 🙂

April 26, 2019 1:18 pm

Who will bring down the Climate 10 Commandments from the mountaintop to first inform and then threaten the masses?

On the outer Barcoo
April 26, 2019 1:19 pm

Do rich folk gorge themselves on hot-dogs? Or is it more the fare of ordinary and poor folk?

Dave Bufalo
April 26, 2019 2:26 pm

Show me the calculations by how much global warming will be reduced by implementing this policy. Then show me the cost/benefit analysis.

Greg Cavanagh
April 26, 2019 3:08 pm

You have to control by force, like the Romans, or control by keeping them busy just staying alive, like Venezuela. You’re right, it is a way to control the population, keep them suppressed and imobile.

April 26, 2019 3:30 pm

They are calling hot dogs meat? Well there’s your first problem right there.

Brian Hatch
Reply to  yarpos
April 26, 2019 4:40 pm

During a meat substitution scandal in Australia in the 1980s a business in Melbourne was raided and its sausages tested for substituted meat. The scandal began with kangaroo being used instead of beef. After a long search it was found the sausages had no animal flesh of any type in them.

April 26, 2019 4:13 pm

The Elites do not eat hotdogs, so you can go ahead and ban them. Do not apply ordinary logic to Alarmist CAGW ideas. If logic was applicable the Alarmist CAGW meme, aficionados would never have got to the CAGW idea at all, ever.

April 26, 2019 4:31 pm

Does Warren Wilhelm, Jr. think New Yorkers should be eating in-humanely killed Ground Hogs, instead?

Are Ground Hogs the “Other, other white meat”?

Mike Menlo
April 26, 2019 5:27 pm

You denialists ate just stupid. It’s very simple, like agebra

Processed meat = nitrites
Nitrites = bad
Climate change = bad
Therefore processed meat = climate change

Simple, see?

April 26, 2019 6:04 pm

The impact of this program would be so small it could not possibly be measured by any currently available instrument. I pointed this out to someone about the mayors other program regarding skyscrapers. I then did some rough calculations and demonstrated that it was not just the impact on global temperatures which could not be measured but that it would not be possible to measure the impact on atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations. This stopped the exchange of comments. I seriously doubt that the explanation changed that persons mind but hopefully it will cause someone to reconsider the usefulness of it and any future proposals.

Reply to  Robert
April 26, 2019 11:00 pm

I beg to differ, the virtue signal-o-meter will be off the scale

April 26, 2019 6:15 pm

This completely feral knee-jerk mass hysteria and insanity.


April 26, 2019 6:17 pm

This is so dumb and reactionary it’s almost like April 1st has returned for a second run in 2019.

April 26, 2019 7:12 pm

What’s going on with the moderation Anthony? It seems like each comment goes to moderation and gets stuck there, then they get released into threads in one go, an hour later? How’s it possible to discuss or interact when it’s like that?

Gordon Dressler
April 26, 2019 8:17 pm

I view tofu as a very “problematic” food. It is, after all, a very processed food product.

When will New York city get around to banning it for my and others benefit?

Wiliam Haas
April 27, 2019 12:44 am

Maybe it would be best to ban all humans and their artifacts from the city and turn the city into a nature preserve so that it would become a CO2 sink rather than a CO2 source. Of course such efforts will have no effect on global climate since the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero.

Gary Pearse
April 27, 2019 3:02 am

After the election of Trump the Democrits doubled down on their divine right to run the country and gave no thought to a retrospective of WTF happened? Hillary’s thought-free “What Happened” was a predictable generic pap that still is playing out among the Ds. They definitely are if one mind. At this, I predicted the (New) Republicans would rule for at least a generation if they could cut the mouldering old guard off. This will take new blood without the ties that bind and putting the RINOs out to pasture or find them a space in Democrat Eutrophia.

With the Jerry-brownish hotdog thing in New York, I now have doubled my bet on multi-generation rule of Republicans. I would now advise Dems to get checked out at the the Atlanta Center For Disease Control for some unknown pathogen.

John Endicott
Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 29, 2019 6:22 am

I’d be careful with that bad. Never underestimate the ability of the establishment Republicans to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

April 27, 2019 3:05 am

Confluence of environmentalism and veganism, which swirl around each other. Everything vegans like is good for the environment and everything else is not.

April 27, 2019 10:43 am

– doesn’t the curing chemicals reduce emergence of bacteria?
– there is a reason to avoid processed meats, Bruce Ames who invented the petri dish to screen for _potential_ carcinogens advised against them, and beer, due nitrates, and against over-grilled meats.

April 27, 2019 4:50 pm

Don’t get on that (liberal) ship. It’s a cookbook!.

Johann Wundersamer
April 28, 2019 1:10 am

“I don’t get how this is somehow supposed to be less eco-friendly than say eating beef steak and throwing the rest of the animal away.”

Eric, as you indicate it’s about “building a new consciousness”.

The easiest to impose on people “mostly located in city office buildings, jails, and schools.”

If that really changes even something, “sustainable”, is a completely different question.

At least it demonstrates “Good Will”.

Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
April 28, 2019 7:31 am

Bans on certain types of foods, especially meats, is a common theme found in many religions.

April 28, 2019 11:07 am

To quote a formerly brilliant screenwriter (who since has lost his mind to TDS):

It’s not about right, not about wrong. It’s about power.

Reply to  Richard
April 28, 2019 5:30 pm

It,s about to creating the next Alphonse Gabriel Capone!

May 1, 2019 11:25 am

New york should also ban the following
– Hot Showers and Hot Tub
– Hot Chocolate
– Ice Creams
– Potato Fries
– Skinny jeans (actually ban all pants, you can wear loin cloth)
– Rc Planes and Cars
– New York Striploin Steak

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