Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Apparently it’s OK because legislators asked kids to draft the bill.
Minnesota Introduces Bold New Climate Change Bill Crafted By Teens
Brian Kahn
Apr 13, 2019, 4:00amEveryone always looks to California for climate action, but don’t sleep on the Midwest. On Thursday, Minnesota legislators introduced a sweeping new bill modelled after Alexandrio Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal.
…“This is our future, and we’re actually taking action on it,” Anna Grace Hottinger, a 16 year old sophomore who helped author the bill, told Earther.
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The Minnesota Green New Deal bill represents a much more dramatic step. Introduced by state Representative Frank Hornstein and Senator Scott Dibble along with 17 co-sponsors, the legislation follows the outlines of the Green New Deal resolution introduced at the federal level earlier this year.
The bill requires the state to run on 100 per cent carbon-free energy by 2030 and puts a moratorium on fossil fuel permitting. It also requires commissioners of various state agencies to come up with plans for decarbonisation of different sectors, including transportation and agriculture, as well as divesting the state’s pension system from fossil fuels.
…The bill is ripe with language on how the state can help facilitate a just transition to a clean energy economy, from jobs training to identifying any economic impact the shift could have on electricity rates.
“The Minnesota Green New Deal not only represents a bold agenda toward climate change, but also represents a new style of politics, one that values people over profits,” Tiger Worku, a junior from Minneapolis, said at the press conference announcing the bill on Wednesday
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Read more: https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/04/minnesota-introduces-bold-new-climate-change-bill-crafted-by-teens/
I’m not kidding when I say they want to ban home heating, at least for new residences. From the text of the bill;
Sec. 8.
[216B.2427] FOSSIL FUEL FACILITIES; CONSTRUCTION
MORATORIUM.A state agency is prohibited from issuing a permit to construct (1) a facility to transport, store, or process coal, crude oil or its derivative products, propane, or natural gas, or (2) a facility defined in section 216B.2421, subdivision 2, clause (9), pending issuance of the report required under section 11.
Read more: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF2836&session=ls91&version=list&session_number=0&session_year=2019
Good luck getting the home solar heating work in the middle of a Minnesotan winter, especially really cold weather like the winter Minnesota just experienced.
But maybe they won’t need home heating. According to Judah Cohen, a climate researcher at Atmospheric and Environmental Research, a consulting firm in Massachusetts, “Our winters would be warmer if we weren’t getting these increased polar vortex disruptions.”
Perhaps Minnesotan legislators hope by putting the children in charge and trying really hard to recycle, properly demonstrating their green piety, the polar vortex disruptions will go away, and they will have their warmer winters. Or perhaps they will get back the colder winters they enjoy, rather than the unnatural polar vortex colder winters which cause so much disruption.
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Drafted by 16 year old sophomores? This is why the voting age should be raised to at least 21.
Explains why the Bill is so Sophomoric
Sophomoronic
Or at least repeal the idiotic 26th amendment.
REQUEST ==> Does anyone reading have access to the Wall Street Journal?
I need copies of these two old editorials:
How Scientific Is Climate Science?
What is arguably the most important reason to doubt global warming can be explained in plain English.
By Douglas J. Keenan
Updated April 5, 2011 12:01 a.m. ET
The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism
There were good reasons for doubt, until now.
By Richard A. Muller
October 21, 2011
Let me know or just email them to kip at i4.net. Thanks
These seem to be complete:
https://www.informath.org/media/a42.htm
http://fore.yale.edu/climate-change/science/the-case-against-global-warming-skepticism/
btw the first one is the author’s website. He included some stuff that got edited by WSJ from the original.
100 percent carbon free energy?
Well, there goes the bio fuel market since plants are made of Carbon and are major building block of fossil fuels!!!! What hypocrisy!!!
So now we’ve got policy driven by 16-year-olds.
If this had been me, my parents would have cut off my wifi and car privlidges and I would have been over it by the end of the weekend.
Why not? In most states, 16-yr-olds can weild a 2-ton weapon called an automobile! Seems like too many politicians never got past their learner’s permit!!
Let them do it, with the caveat that there be no federal bailouts and no sympathy as they freeze the butts off in winter. Let them eat dead birds.
Hmmm… a benefit to having a Wind Turbine on your property. Perpetual food source…
Yes. But how will you thaw the dead birds in order to eat them?
“But how will you thaw the dead birds in order to eat them?” In your armpits, obviously.
lost it;-)))) now thats funny
++++++++ for the image in my mind
Most of the birds fly south in the winter. Too cold. Ice fishing might locate some food.
Unfortunately, the notion that liberals will learn anything whatsoever from a total disaster resulting from their policies is a delusion. Since they did not learn anything BEFORE proposing such nonsense, they will not learn after, either, and all of us will continue to suffer under the weight of THEIR delusions. They simply must be stopped.
“Maybe Minnesota can be the US crash test dummy. like S.A. was for Australia.” +1M Have them start now so they can get a good taste of “fossil fuel free” and let the rest of the states and the world know how it’s going. It’s disturbing how we allow children to be weaponized in a political battle.
“Hottinger, a 16 year old sophomore…”,
“Tiger Worku, a junior from Minneapolis”
So we have children and their child-like Democratic Party manipulators:
state Representative Frank Hornstein and Senator Scott Dibble. And they say they want to eliminate fossil fuel use in their state. Hopefully the adults will keep the children occupied with shiny objects. Unfortunately, children can burn down the house as easily as an adult. Just gotta keep them out of positions of power.
“ …requires commissioners of various state agencies to come up with plans …”
If this becomes law and I was a commissioner, I would resign by the end of the day.
Then I would move to another state.
A future POTUS will get to declare Minnesota a new wilderness. Neat.
“ …requires commissioners of various state agencies to come up with plans …”
If this becomes law and I was a commissioner, I would resign by the end of the day.
Then I would move to another state.
I would immediately issue a plan: to ignore this trainwreck of a law and hope that the next election will replace the current mental midgets in the legislatures with intelligent adults that will promptly repeal the idiotic law. Then I’d resign and move to another state in case the electorate wasn’t smart enough to do as the plan hopes they would.
And we thought the world had moved on from the child soldiers period, clearly not.
“… a new style of politics, one that values people over profits”
Since those dumbs can’t learn anything neither from history nor from experiments, Darwin will easily take care of them.
Minneapolis, Minnesota is a “sanctuary city.” The sooner USA President Trump relocates southern border crossers there then the more enriched the state will become with underpaid human labor to “… decarbonize … transportation & agriculture …” for the virtuous Minnesotans. This way Minnesota’s US Congress-perxon I. Omar’s constituents will be truely “woke”
obummer already inserted 80,000 somalians into north Minneapolis. No room for any more. And these same people elected omarwhatsherface.
“And these same people elected omarwhatsherface.”
She won’t get re-elected if Trump drops 250,000 Mexicans into Minneapolis.
I mean, it will still be a Democrat, but it will be a Mexican Democrat.
“obummer already inserted 80,000 somalians into north Minneapolis”
I’ve been wondering about that. The Democrats claim it would be illegal for Trump to ship illegal aliens to their sanctuary cities and states, but Obama has shipped illegal aliens all over the United States into cities in every state and the cities cannot complain about it, they just have to accept the illegal aliens. I’m skeptical that the law keeps Trump from doing this considering the freedom Obama had to do the same thing. I would like to see the law they are referring to. I would be surprised if specific places were designated by Congress for illegal alien destinations.
I think Trump’s threat to ship illegal aliens to the Democrats home cities is Brilliant!! He is forcing the Democrats to show themselves for the hypocrits they really are. The Democrats claim illegal aliens are wonderful and make our communities better, but when Trump wants to send them some they act like Trump is trying to punish them rather than reward them. They act like recieving illegal aliens is a bad thing but their words say the opposite. Do what I say, not what I do.
The illegal aliens have to go to someone’s city. Why shouldn’t they go to Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco? California ought to announce tomorrow that they will take every one of the illegal aliens coming across the southern border right now, and will give them free housing, medical care, college tuition and a guaranteed income. That’s what caring Democrats would do.
Instead they whine and complain when Trump offers to supply them with wonderful illegal aliens. It’s ok to overwhelm Texas and Arizona and New Mexico’s social services but we can’t have those expensive illegal aliens going to Democrat sanctuary cities and states. The reality is they don’t want them there. Trump is making that plain to see.
The Holier-Than-Thou Democrats are hypocrits of the worst kind.
Indeed. They have to go somewhere, since the democrats won’t let us simply ship them “return to sender”, why not send them to the cities that claim to welcome them with open arms rather than to the communities that don’t want them? Would seem to be a win-win, if the democrats weren’t such hypocrites that is.
Why bother with elections? Just draft a bunch of 8th graders and bus them to the Capital.
What is th purpose of this infantile proposal? Who is going to gain?
Minnesota: Ilhan Omar is a Somali-American politician from Minnesota.
Isn’t this the first step of a plan to lower the voting age to 12 years?
And the age of consent
I just wish some national government would have the courage to take the loonies at their word and put in place a ban on a state or city giving these insane green signals being able to be supplied by any fossil fuel derived power from any other neighbouring state or city. The national electricity grid should only be allowed to transmit power to them if it was generated by in-state wind turbines, solar panels, or indigenous renewables.
We urgently need such a cure applied somewhere as a wake up call to the lunatics who think any of this green energy rubbish is remotely feasible for healthy living, let alone modern life.
I am beginning to wonder if the reason that we haven’t been contacted by any extra-terrestrial civilisation is because all planets with intelligent life reach a crisis where planet worshippers sabotage progress and destroy their own civilisation . Sadly, we don’t look like being an exception.
Certainly not in the U.K.
What are they waiting for? They could start the freezing and starving right away. That move would be both courageous and set an example of a state committing suicide looks like.
The firewood gathering industry will take off like a rocket. But that will only last so long. Maybe one winter.
This syndrome deserves a name, how much CO2 does Minnesota produce, it must be insignificant? But somehow this insignificance leads to zealotry, as we see also in Tasmania and Scotland. Just how small do you need to get, maybe a village or street, before you realise the futility of your gesture.
Or is this simply about winning elections, regardless of the misery inflicted?
Minnesota is just a little smaller than the UK with a population a little under 6 million. The problem is most of that population lies in the Twin Cities which is a typical urban liberal demographic.
If such a law were ever passed I could see the counties outside of the Twin Cities looking into moving into another state.
In 2020, President Trump’s first executive should be to build walls around ALL Democratic Party held states…Entry point BP agents will ask 1 simple question…..”Who did you vote for ?”…Democrat ?..Sorry, no entry for you…..After 5 years of self destruction in the far left states, the rest of America will come in and pick up the pieces in 2025…
Eric, people do heat their homes without fossil fuels directly. Me, for one. Electric heat. Nowhere in the article does it say how you characterize it. I expected better from you.
The question will whether you can afford the cost of electricity to heat your home. Germany has been trying the sort plan that MN is proposing and their electrical rates have increased dramatically to the point that they make California’s rates look cheap.
And the electricity for that comes from? At 1 am, it won’t be solar. And especially cold nights are frequently windless, so not from wind turbines either. What’s the point of saying “directly”? Electricity from a coal or gas fired power plant, thru power lines to your home, is certainly “indirect”, but what is your point?
Our house is 100% electric from Hydro on the Columbia River in central Washington State.
If the electricity goes off on an especially cold night we have wood and a modern wood stove to provide heat, cooking, and hot water.
Not a good fit to the rest of the world.
“ Your power is turning our darkness to dawn
. . So roll on, Columbia, roll on” [Woody Guthrie, 1941]
“Not a good fit to the rest of the world” LOL
Not a fit at all for probably 99% of the world.
At least you have a carbon free back up system with that wood stove. 😉
But bear in mind that when the New Green Deal gets passed, it will require you to turn in that stove, to be melted down and used to make plowshares that will be pulled behind mules on the carbon free farms that the NGD legislation will mandate.
Wood is not carbon-free.
“Electricity from a coal or gas fired power plant, thru power lines to your home, is certainly “indirect”, but what is your point?”
My point is that Eric said they want to ban home heating. And that’s patently untrue.
I think he meant good/cheap heat sources. I can’t imagine heat pumps being very effective in MN without geothermal.
No, it’s true. If you get rid of gas, oil, and coal and won’t consider nuclear you are left with wind and solar which won’t do the job 24/7 or hydro, which Minnesota (being somewhat flat) is not the best place for. Oh, I forgot, they probably won’t allow any dams to be built anyway. So no electricity either. It’s frustrating they way people think electricity is a power source when it’s only a distribution mechanism. BTW batteries aren’t electrical, they are chemical energy storage systems which deliver electricity.
My point is that Eric said they want to ban home heating. And that’s patently untrue.
sorry but Eric is spot on, it is you, Jeff that is patently wrong. The bill wants to ban “carbon” emitting fossil fuels (That would be coal or gas). period. Doesn’t matter if it’s direct or indirect, if it’s a “carbon” emitting fossil fuel it is verboten. So where are you going to get your electricity to heat your home with when coal, oil, and gas electricity generation is out of the question? Solar? not in the middle of the night you won’t. Wind? not when it’s also a windless winter night you won’t. Nuclear? the same green geniuses that want to ban fossil fuels also want nothing to do with Nuclear. Hydro? Again, not very popular with the green geniuses.
You guys are right. My apologies. I read it as banning use of fossil fuels for home heating use, not for electricity generation. I sit corrected.
Just tell them they lose their cell phones, computers, and will have to walk to school. That should induce terror. Rational parents could picket outside the school with signs to that effect—Green means no cell phones, computers and you walk to school. Assuming there are enough rational parents in Minnesota to actually do this.
Best possible action is to cut all heat, plastics, etc out of the school starting now, stop running the busses, etc. We can’t hope anyone has that much spunk…..
The nutjobs who come up these “plans” have drunk the Koolaid and fallen for the fairy tale about a few tenths of a degree of warming means no more snow in the winter. This is what Al Gore told us several decades ago. Oh wait…..he was wrong.
Virtue signalling. Like Sweden when it prohited nuclear around 1980. They have, of course, both more nuclear and virtue signalling 40 years later.
I wonder what these geniuses think is a derivative product, and are they really giving up most plastics?
Can we assume these kids have already eschewed any use of fossil fuels or the energy derived therefrom? One would think that’s a given.
Except these snowflakes whose comfortable lives are more dependent on fossils than any generation ever, think that they personally don’t have to do anything, government will pass a law and their luxurious lives will continue on as comfortable as before.
Maybe they could put into the law, a requirement that they must be the first to get off fossils before anyone else has to.
I view this as a failure of the education system. These kids have been brainwashed by their teachers to believe in the global warming hype and not question (or even think about) what they’ve been taught. This is criminal behavior by the educators.
Children need to be taught the scientific method rather than having the message of the day crammed down their throats.
Kids make the best useful idiots.