This is hilarious! 57-0 unanimous rejection!
By Molly Prince
Mike Lee Uses Velociraptors, Tauntauns And Aquaman To Dismantle The Green New Deal
- Republican Utah Sen. Mike Lee delivered a speech on the Senate floor arguing against the Green New Deal.
- Lee displayed a picture of President Ronald Reagan firing a machine gun while riding on the back of a dinosaur to explain how unrealistic the Green New Deal is to solving climate change.
- Lee mocked the Green New Deal’s proposal to eliminate airplanes by arguing Americans would need to ride Tauntauns and Aquaman’s 20 foot seahorse to fly to Alaska and Hawaii.
Republican Utah Sen. Mike Lee argued against the Green New Deal on Tuesday by mocking two of the most controversial, and often ridiculed, policy proposals in the resolution: eliminating air travel and flatulating cows.
“Unlike others, I’m not immediately afraid of what the Green New Deal would do to the economy and our government. After all, this isn’t going to pass — not today, not any time soon certainly,” Lee said on the Senate floor. “After reading the Green New Deal, I’m mostly afraid of not being able to get through this speech with a straight face — I rise today to consider the Green New Deal with the seriousness it deserves.”
Lee began his speech by displaying an image of former President Ronald Reagan firing a machine gun while riding on the back of a dinosaur, waving an American flag.
“The Cold War as we all know, was won without firing a shot,” he continued. “But that quibble actually serves our purposes here today because this image has as much to do with overcoming Communism in the 20th century as the Green New Deal has to do with overcoming climate change in the 21st.”
Lee argued that there is not even one serious proposal in the entire Green New Deal and singled out the resolution’s call for a World War II-style mobilization effort to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions like methane, that arise from cow flatulence. He also highlighted the call to rid air travel.
“We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast,” reads the initial version of the resolution’s fact-sheet, which has since been removed.
“[Eliminating airplanes] might seem merely ambitious for politicians who represent the densely populated northeastern United States, but how’s it supposed to work for our fellow citizens who don’t live somewhere between Washington, D.C., and and Boston?” Lee asked, taking a thinly veiled shot at the resolutions’ Democratic sponsors, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Ed Markey.
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From the Daily Caller
Meanwhile, after that presentation came the vote:
Senate votes down Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal 57-0 with high-profile Democrats joining Republicans to show their disapproval of radical plan as she says she didn’t want vote to happen and charges GOP climate policy with wrecking havoc on world.
- The Senate roundly rejected Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal as expected on Tuesday with not a single senator voting ‘yes’
- The final Senate vote was 57 nays and 43 present
- Most of the Democrats voted ‘present’ in protest
- Ocasio-Cortez argued she encouraged the senators to vote ‘present’
- Democratic Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia; Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona; and Doug Jones of Alabama all voted no as did Independent Sen. Angus King
- Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell staged a show vote on Green New Deal
- The move was designed to put Democrats on the record about the progressive plan, in a vote Republicans can exploit later for political purposes
- Earlier Tuesday, Ocasio-Cortez slammed Republican Sen. Mike Lee, who mocked her Green New Deal in a speech on the Senate floor
- ‘If this guy can be Senator, you can do anything,’ she tweeted
- Lee, in a colorful speech, used a variety of photos to make his point
- Lee claimed the deal would ban airplanes and leave Hawaii to use ‘a massive fleet of giant, highly trained sea horses’ to get around
Full story here.
Amused contempt is the proper attitude towards the Green New Deal. It confirms all the worst cliches about greens, that they are semi-literate socialists with strong authoritarian tendencies.
Semi? 😉
Hemisemidemi. That’s 1/64. The fastest note most humans can play, and the approximate literacy level of nearly all Demonrats.
Easy to play a hemisemidemiquaver if the tempo is slow enough.
Sorry, syllables out-of-order… the term is hemidemisemiquaver.
@Fraser;
You are correct. Although, since the transitive property of mathematics applies to multiplication, you get the same result regardless of order.
So Sen. Liz Warren is less than a hemidemisemiinjun??
There are plenty of 64th-notes and even 128th-notes in the first movement of Beethoven’s Sonata in C Minor, Op. 13, nicknamed the “Pathetique.” The tempo is slow, and the player who has mastered fingerings for scales (especially chromatic) will not find the passages insuperable. The problem with the concept is that slow tempi make the passages look far more forbidding than they are; there is plenty of extremely fast music with no notes beyond 8ths (including triplets)(Mendelssohn, “Italian” Symphony, finale).
I’ve smacked them down, twice, when they were attempting to poison my home state with their crap.
It was amazing to see the lemmings, educated and proletariat, blindly and ignorantly push false hope and contextual fraud because “SCIENCE!” then more or less observe them exchanging thumbs between opposing orifices when they got owned by their own words.
Too many people are buying into the Big Lies. Good people must get informed and get involved to defeat this latest round of “collectivism in drag”, commonly called environMENTALism.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez should be “smacked down”, ….. good and hard, … along with all of her “supporting” Democrats.
Such stupidity, ….. OC introduced her Green New Deal Bill, …… along with lots of fanfare and hoopla, ……. and pretty much demanding that Congress pass it to prevent earth’s destruction in 12 years ……. and then she began severely “badmouthing” Republicans for wanting Congress to vote on making it Law.
“DUH”, so many Democrats claiming and attesting that …. Global Warming climate change has to be stopped, ……. but not a one of them voted for passage of the GND Bill that they all were factually claiming would accomplish said.
+10.. Conjures up a mental image that AOC should be subjected in order to control her own flatulence, but most of that falls out the head end.
AOC is just a blatant narcissist desperately craving to be seen as saviour of the planet, but her recent travelling antics have tarnished that including the embarrassing backpedal of having to take their socialist game plan down off their website. Things of late have been rather entertaining for me.
AOC’s more than a narcissist. She’s a useful-idiot sock puppet following orders from whomever’s Big Money is behind her unlikely rise to Congress. Somebody out there proposed this nonsense to soften us all up to the ideas of the Deep Green Fringe that wants to take us back to the caves. The big backers need to be outed; I suspect many of the usual suspects.
I like her consistency in backpedaling when things just don’t go her way. She says she “encouraged Senators to vote present”. I doubt that she had anything to do with it.
If she ever grows up, will one of you guys let me know? I do like to see her wash up against the Wall of Reality, but I have a lot of stuff to do and I just can’t babysit someone who acts like a spoiled 6-year-old at the physical age I had reached after two full-time AD hitches in the military.
Reality is harsh. I hope this lesson sinks in, but I have my doubts.
Alexandria, go back to 6th grade and 12-year old Allie will take your place in Congress. She will do much better than you
Sorry wrong video. I intended to post her Lottie doll
Growing up can be put aside indefinitely in government and academia.
Alice in Wonderland?
Cognitive neuro-scientists now have evidence the human brain isn’t fully developed in all its final connections until age 30. AOC is just 29 so there is still some hope for further development.
But Markey… he is 72. A hopeless mental deficit exists there.
At 72, the road is downhill. not up. I should know I am 71
I thought it full mental maturity was 35. Somehow the Framers knew that, by setting the eligibility age for President at 35.
the probability of that birth defect attaining sentience is zero
It can continue to develop beyond that age if you keep learning, engaging and challenging yourself.
Shur nuff, ….. just like the “expert” climate scientists now have hard physical evidence that CO2 actually causes warming of the atmosphere.
In actuality, the brain is continually producing (growing) new neurons and/or new synaptic links to conjoin “new-to-old” and “old-to-old” neurons with associated data/info that is stored in the DNA of said neurons, …… as long as the person is capable of “learning” something new or different, ….. even at 110 years old.
Iffen you can recall (remember) today, …… what you were told yesterday, …… then new growth involving synapse(s) and neuron(s) surely occurred.
Spot on! Humorous contempt for their sophomoric nonsensical “Deal” is the only appropriate response. AOL is a clown show. Talk about ANYONE being able to get elected to Congress … sheesh.
43 Democrat senators voted “present” on a bill that they would desperately try to enact into law if they controlled the White House again. Talk about sheer deception. That was the true value of the vote.
I don’t know. I’ve come to think the Democrats actually know how unworkable their ideas actually are, and have no intentions of implementing them. Look at the Obama administration. There was plenty of time when they had enough control to have pushed through all kinds of things, but they often didn’t even try.
The sad truth is, Leftists Lie. They Lie all the time. And they know they don’t need to keep their campaign promises, they just need to make them. Their followers will believe them when they declare that it’s all the Republicans fault that they haven’t done anything.
Hell, look at all the stuff they already believe just because the Dems and the media repeat it. I’m still trying to convince people there isn’t really a huge floating island of plastic in the Pacific.
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The sad truth is …. the MAJORITY of Gen Z and Milleninials embrace the LIES told by leftist. They want socialized meds, guaranteed wage, social security, and government control of everything.
Ya gotta remember, without the Clinton Crime Organization fixing the primary, Crazy Bernie would have been the Nominee. The loony left has the monopoly in the MSM who set the tone of the narrative.
Y’all don’t be surprised when a watered down version of the GND is Passed after Trump leaves office. Our only hope is that ol Dave Evans … and some others are correct that we r going to go into a cooling period. That’s about all that could stop it.
If you’ve been told since kindergarten that the only reason you aren’t wealthy is because someone stole the wealth from you, it’s easy to believe that by taxing the rich enough, you can have free lunches from now on.
Schitzree, you are quite right, I know a number of people who think the entire Great Pacific Ocean Gyre is crammed with plastic. They want to take that silly contraption sitting in Berkeley Harbor and ‘clean-up’ the Pacific. They are completely unaware that a whole ecosystem exists out there called a neuston that consists of surface-dwelling creatures being carried to the center of the gyre and mixed in with the plastic debris. Vast numbers of creatures exist at the center of the gyre including everything from bacteria to sailfish, from Sea Dragons to Portuguese Men-of-War or Mans-of-War (?).
Authoritarian? Not! Definitely totalitarian. Once in power they are likely to use techniques of their heroes, like Joseph Stalin, to silence dissent.
I said this on another site.
“Some time ago a vote on a resolution to praise Neil Armstrong for being the first man to walk on the Moon.
To vote “present” would imply you believed that the Moon landing was a hoax but were afraid to go on record as saying so.
Despite the Dem’s spin, what does a “present” vote imply about what they think about The Green New Deal?”
My favorite scene from that movie (especially John Cleese’s part)!
it means they want a “present” before they vote !
A vote of ‘Present’ means they believe in the GND but don’t want to go on record in support.
Democrats: the party that is afraid you might find out what they really want.
This has encouraged me to wade through the Green New Deal. It should be good for a laugh.
It is a bit sad that there were so many vacant seats for such gold. The aide changing the posters does a good job keeping a straight face!
Yes, she gets high bonus points for that. I very much doubt I could I could do likewise.
Not so naive.
“Ocasio-Cortez argued she encouraged the senators to vote ‘present’
“The move was designed to put Democrats on the record about the progressive plan, in a vote Republicans can exploit later for political purposes”
…she doesn’t have the convictions of her own plan…she should have at least voted on it
She is a member of the house of representatives so was not invited to vote in the senate. The only problem with this stunt was that they put forward a shell of a bill that wouldn’t actually do the damage the proposal is intended to accomplish. Some of the grousing by the dems is actually valid. I think they should have written a 2000 page bill with all the ridiculousness they proposed explicitly stated and make them vote present on that!
That’s what this vote was about
43 senators voting “present” should all get participation medals.
All in all it’s been a pretty bad week for the “make it up as you go along” crowd.
100% of the Senate were not for the Green New Deal. Going forward any legislature pertaining to Climate Change will have to overcome the taint of the Green New Deal first to get any traction. Thank You AOC. And finally the Republicans are learning how to play the game.
Mitch McConnell’s second best move.
First best was telling Obama to stick his Scalia-replacement nominee where the sun don’t shine.*
3rd Best move was following Harry Reid’s example on judicial nominees nuclear option to include SCOTUS nominees to put Gorsuch on the bench and now Kavanaugh.
* Those months after Scalia’s death, the Liberals on TV were all giddy and full at glee at the thought of replacing the originalist Scalia with Liberal. Now seeing two new Conservative justices on the High Court is sweet victory. Nothing else Trump could do will be as consequential for US history as that. And the Libs know it.
Amen, Brother!
The AOC’s and Markey’s roll-out to great fanfare of the GND simply highlights the childish thinking on the part of today’s Democrats.
It was of course a completely un-serious proposal, as evidenced by their unanimous “present” vote today which they couldn’t support in fact. That all the Democratic Senator presidential candidates hopefuls jumped on-board with the GND at roll-out is further evidence of the mind=less state of that Party. The US Democratic Party demonstrated themselves quite publicly as the fools they are en mass today not just to the American people, but to the world.
And finally, SO MUCH WINNING THIS WEEK!!!
– Trump Russian Collusion narrative collapse.
– Massive crocodile tears on Liberal talks shows for 3 days now.
– CNN, NYT, WaPo, MSNBC fake news reputations all further down the toilet.
– Obama Maladmin officials Brennan, Rice, Clapper, and Samantha Power now are all facing testifying to Congress under oath about their role in the collusion set-up and politically motivated un-masking of intel intercepts.
– Michael Avanatti in jail.
– And now the Green New Deal couldn’t even find a single vote in the Senate, even from its co-creator The Moron Markey.
Winning!!!
The total fracking retard twins of New England, Ed Markey (D-MA) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) were even too spineless to vote for this… and retardamus maximus Markey was one of the sponsors… ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The word “retard” does not have an acceptable place in dignified conversation.
The progenitors of the Green New Deal Cultural Revolution are below dignified conversation. Decorum was the only reason I used the euphemism “fracking”… The actually abbreviation of hydraulic fracturing is “frac’ing.”
For future reference.
Again!!!!! DO NOT just provide a link to google. Provide a link to the article you want us to read. I will not wade through Google results to find an article you MIGHT be referring to. If you don’t know how to do that ASK!!!
That would be over 1,200 links to instances of the word, “retard” being used on WUWT.
It should be noted that “retard” is not applicable for these twits.
Retardation, idiocy, etc. imply that they lack certain mental faculties as an explanation for their monumental ineptitude. This does nobody any good.
Further, it is unhelpful to call them lunatics, though actual mental illness might have some part to play.
Unlike ignorance, stupidity is an act of the will. To be stupid is to act with malice and forethought, and deny reality on the sole grounds of their own narcissism. It is necessary to hammer home that these jackasses (their actual mascot) have arrived at such colossal heights of folly because they are complete sociopathic monsters. They love nothing more than to make other people suffer while being praised for supposedly helping them.
Richard, normally I agree. However
1) David doesn’t normally just post a google search result as I link, he normally posts specific links and images. That he did posts a google search result this time suggest there’s a reason for it, which brings us to
2) if you look at the link it becomes obvious he posted it for a reason: to highlight the fact that the word “retard” has been used numerous times here at WUWT. I suspect if one did click on all those “over 1,200 links ” one would not find “Max Dupilka” posing an objection on any of them outside this thread. so Max can shove his faux-concern over the use of the word.
Well it’s a SGW trying to tell us once again what we can and cannot say. If someone finds a word usage unacceptable they can ignore it and move on and not associate with the source. I also find that using the word ‘retard’ isn’t acceptable accept for certain situations. There’s nothing ‘dignified’ about censuring language. It will censure itself if necessary.
Sometimes I had to retard the spark on my old Dodge’s slant six. I’d always check to make sure it was retarded.
Not only can they ignore and move on, but they also have the option of reporting it and letting the mods decide on if a particular word is acceptable for this site or not. The only reason to play word police like Max did is to virtue signal his faux-concern. There’s nothing ‘dignified’ about virtue signaling.
Actually it does. When you make a deliberate effort to slow down the fermentation of dough in order to enhance flavor you ‘retard’ it. But I see your point. That’s why I have hesitated to state that the initials ‘AOC’ stand for America’s Outstanding Cretin. But what the hell who wants to be polite all the time.
In the world of RCRA, AOC is Area of Concern. Totally fitting.
When you retard spark ignition, maximum cylinder pressure occurs later in the combustion cycle than when spark ignition is advanced.
Gee… seems you’re (yet again) wrong. Bet that gets old pretty quickly, doesn’t it, you retard? LOL
You have no power or authority to censor speech. We freedom-loving folks will say what we want, when we want and how we want… and you hand-wringing mental defectives of lefty persuasion will stand there, wring your hands, make your sourest of faces, and continue to be completely ineffectual at everything.
How’s that truth feel, eh? LOL
Besides, fake polite, or even enforced or polite on demand, is not polite, is more like intended hypocrisy…
oh kinda of dodgy fake politi(e)-cs… (too flowery with a clear distinguished lack of decorum)
cheers
Can you expound moron this?
Interestingly enough Robert,
“To be or not to be, that is the question”
is catch 22 for the moron, me thinks.
Either way a moron is and stands fracked in that one catch 22.
In one hand is and stands acceptance, and in the other one the loss of free will and free choice, or the loss of freedom.
cheers
…but it’s accurate….
Perhaps, but then neither Markey nor Whitehouse are acceptable in any dignified senate.
As supporters of this nonsense they have shown to be seriously ‘intellectually challenged’ people, that and utter and total twats.
I do think ‘retards’ is the correct term, if perhaps not so PC and a bit old-fashioned.
But those 3 and the rest of the Senate Dems have retarded and progress on this “Going Green”-camouflaged Progressive proposal by not having the cahones to vote “Yes” instead of “Present”.
If the GND is so desperately needed to save the planet before we all die in 12 years, why not vote “Yes”? Maybe they know the “climate crisis” is not real and is no longer the path to reelection?
I think the term that would be more appropriate is “developmentally disabled”.
Perhaps they have a genetic disorder like Klinefelter syndrome.
This week, Obama advised left wing Democrats to be mindful of the cost of their proposals.
This from the President who single handedly ran up as much debt as all previous presidents combined.
Even more winning: The U.S. House of Representatives failed today to override President Trump’s veto of the bill designed to stop Trump from changing Executive Branch spending priorities and applying that money to building a southern border wall. The building continues.
I’d be surprised if the Supreme Court would go along with a law that puts the Legislature in charge of setting priorities for the Executive branch.
I really wanted to see the high speed train to Hawaii in action.
Boo!
What a laugh. Mike Lee was brilliant. Po faced and as funny as a politician can get away with under the circumstances.
I have been observing that the GOP has been too passive in the past on an array of “emotional” issues pursued by the Progressives; and have suggested that it was necessary to at the very least push back every time the left suggests something ridiculous.
In my optimism, I see the tide turning (but not yet receding) with a variety of recent events. I hope Mile Lee’s speech to be in the vanguard.
ROFL! He’s probably going to auction those and make thousands for charity, and a succinct illustration of the GND.
Voting present can still be used against them.
They had the opportunity to reject the nonsense outright, but they caved.
Their opponents can now paint them as not just idiots, but craven idiots.
Also, to the true believers, anything short of a yes vote, is betrayal.
The best move by Republicans would be to plant operatives in various left wing blogs who argue that the Democrats have failed the faithful and the only logical move is to either start a new party, or vote Green until the Democrats start living up to the standards of the nut cases.
I believe she’s neglected to tell us her full name.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-Quixote
LOL!
Bernie hasn’t the wit to play Sancho Panza.
There are the makings of great theater here if only we had a Miguel de Cervantes. Broadway – wake up!
Can’t wait for AOC to emerge from her safe space and try to salvage this nonsense.
I’m sure it’s just and oversight, but carbonated soda pop will also have to be left unopened so as to maintain the CO2 sequestration.
No, that’s going too far.
I have to have my Dr. Pepper and the only way I can have it is to open it. 🙂
Just as long as you don’t burp afterwards.
I will burp, belch, and engage in flatulence whenever and wherever I wish, and no one needs to sit anywhere near me!!! And I like fizzy drinks, so just leave my cold sodas alone!
“Fart proudly!” – Ben Franklin Cattle hear, and obey. Between this “plan’s” imbecilic approach to “saving the planet” (which can take care of itself quite well, thank you!) and the hysterics going on over things that humans can’t control, it’s fascinating to watch this nonsense start to centralize itself. At some point, it will self-destruct. We still have to be aware of it.
You have forgotten about Baking Soda. All sales must be prohibited with immediate effect. We have to save the planet. And the breweries! Close them all immediately! In fact, if we could all hold our breath for just one minute in every day, think of the decrease in anthropogenic CO2 emissions.
Baking soda only fizzes when mixed with a mild acid like lemon juice.
If it’s mixed with water as a small amount of baking soda and large amount of water, it’s a mild antacid that relieves the pressure of gas in a loud and satisfying belch. 🙂
It is also a necessary ingredient in baking anything that requires leavening, such as cakes, cupcakes, cookies, biscuits…. It also makes a good cleaning ingredient.
What’s next? Take yeast packets off the store shelves?
not “high profile democrats. “vulnerable” democrats.
The number of vulnerable democrats is growing rapidly. They are increasingly being put between a rock and a hard place: do the support the GND, or sanity; Israel or Omar; the truth or Schiff; the new personalities, or an old, rich, white male (Biden or Sanders)?
It mught be difficult for the Democrats to nominate anyone for President without suffering a large contingent of the Party walking out.
That’s what happens when your ‘party’ consists of a haphazard collection of competing identity groups, many of whom would send the others to the gulags if they could.
Touché!
I guess it would have been bad form to show Hawaii’s U.S. Senator, Mazie Hirono, riding the Seahorse in Senator Lee’s cartoon.
It would have been funny though. 🙂
You are kidding me, aren’t you?
Ed Malarkey didn’t vote for the resolution he co-sponsored ?
Is this for real ? It’s not April 1st (yet).
The Green New Deal will never get another vote.
Not while the Republicans are in charge of the Senate, at least. And if it ever did come up for another vote in a Republican Senate, the results would be the same (down in defeat).
Why didn’t they correct her on cow farts, as it’s cow burps!
Everyone gets that one wrong… LOL!
Yeah, but cow farts are funnier!
I don’t think cow belches or farts are a hazard. However, I offer this fair warning:
Never, ever stand behind a cow that has her tail up and starts coughing! Under these circumstances, they can launch a bolus of cow crap with surprising velocity!
I’ve said it before, a cow cannot put out (from either end or as meat), any more “carbon” than it takes in
That means that a cow is carbon neutral
“Present” as in UK English would mean “Two Bob each way”.
Not having the guts to commit themselves, do they or don’t they believe in the Green New Deal. ?
Remind me of a hopeful candidate for a seat in the Australian Parliament . The electorate consists of at one end a part of a city, at the other end some farmers and timber interests. So he produced two leaflets, i.e. flyers. One was against the cutting down of trees, and the other was all for cutting down trees. Hence the saying “”Two bob each way “.
It all came undone when his opponent got hold of both flyers and exposed his ploy, he failed in has bid for Parliament.
Just like the members who voted Present. They want their cake and eat it too.
MJE VK5ELL
Do I detect some skepticism around here? Who could be against free energy, free health care and free college education? Don’t be so negative.
There’s no such thing as ‘free’. Someone has to pay, and that someone is always eventually you.
All the democrats are proposing to do is to rob everyone via punitive taxation, then give them back a pittance, while claiming they’ve ‘saved’ everyone from… well, from everyone and therefore from themselves. Meanwhile, the democrats would live high on the hog, wasting more money than ever on their fever-dream schemes to garner and maintain political power, all on your dime.
That’s socialism in a nutshell.
Why do you think the government gives over half a billion per year to Planned Parenthood, yet doesn’t give any to Christian-based pregnancy support centers? That’s because PP then turns around and contributes heavily to democrat candidate campaigns… it’s money laundering. All on your dime.
https://www.liveaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PP-election-report-2018.pdf
It´s not scepticism, it´s fear.
I live in country where energy isn´t free, health care is almost free and college education is almost free. And costs are payed by taxes.
This system allows everybody an equal opportunity to all that. Nobody is loser by birth.
It´s not communism or socialism, it´s socialdemocracy. And there´s a big difference between those words. All Scandinavian countries are build this way. And all others are quite jealous.
We are the happiest nation on this planet, second time in a row.
When I worked at Frigidaire in Michigan in the 90’s they were owned by Electrolux (Swedish based).
We had a number of technical exchange people come from the parent company for a 12-18 month assignment.
Not **one** wanted to leave the US afterwards to go back to their social democratic home.
Why? They could afford to buy a house. They had extra money to spend the way they wanted to. They didn’t want all the “free” stuff and the strings that came attached to it.
Brian McCain
It´s of course possible to take good education from any Skandinavian country and then move to “paradise”. This is one point of wiew. And they must save a lot for their kids education.
The other wiew is that students from other countries are wellcome to our high respected universities with quite low expencies, starting from 0 euros, to 20 000 euros.
For instance, master´s degree in healthcare and social politics = 0 euros.
Master´s degree in information technology = 20 000 euros / year.
And all others are between those costs.
These are the costs to students who come outside Europe.
We have many US students here, and they don´t need to take life long loans for their education.
US students here is growing group foreigners. The amount of Finnish students in US universities are reduced because of very high costs.
Those Electrolux exchange people were educated in Sweden, and they don´t have debts for their education. And of course they had already “free” stuff all their life, the strings that came attached to it could maybe be windmills in their mind.
All Scandinavian countries are free. Everybody can go wherever they want.
As I said, we have equal opportunity to everybody. Nobody is loser by birth.
I´m not saying that our system is better than any other. We like it because it offers equality to all. It´s expensive, of course, but we are used to it. And many foreigners have found our education system very good and much more affordable than their homelands. And that´s OK too.
Peace and loce!
You might find this interesting:
F1nn, Finland has a Capitalist economy, the taxing of which p;rovides sufficient funds to support a socialdemocracy. I do not see any Socialist economies (state ownership of the means of production) that can provide sufficient means to support a socialdemocracy. I cannot see Venezuela or North Korea having such a sucessful system.
I once visited Finland right after touring Russia. What a vast difference. After that even the USA seemed a bit shabby. I was also impressed by the fact that Finnish taxes aare not all that much higher than ours. In the interest of full disclosure I am one-half Finn.
Hello Jon, and yes, your name tells the story. 🙂
It´s very nice to have an “outsiders” wiew of our country. We are crumpy and very sarcastic people, but we are easy to approach, friendly and honest, after the “ice” is broken.
I´m surprised your wiew of our taxes because everybody here is complaining those. ( I could have asked my wife to check out facts, but it´s allways too long story.)
Jon, thank you for the message it´s great to “meet” another Finn (even a half) here. Kerro terveisiä vanhemmillesi! ( <-Say hello to your parents in Finnish)
Most of that free stuff is paid for by North Sea oil. When that runs out and the taxpayers actually do start to pay for it, then the level of happiness will go down quickly.
That´s Norways money. They are happy. And when the oilwells are empty they have money to be happy many generations.
“Who could be against free energy, free health care and free college education?”
Those who have to pay for it.
There is no free lunch.
Those who receive free stuff are happy.
Those who have to pay for it, not so much.
So long as those who get free stuff outnumber the slaves who have to provide it, happiness can be maximized.
(So can hypocrisy, but who’s counting?)
Tom, I am as big a believer in the American system as anyone and its twin pillars of Freedom and Opportunity. I, however, have no problem with a small, relatively homogenous country experimenting with various forms of social welfare as long as the people are in control. Finland has, amongst other things, perhaps the best education system in the world. Also, Finland tried a system of universal income, which was found unsustainable and has either been recinded or is about to be.
Democrat Senators are now The New “Climate Deniers.”
Now we know who’s really against women, children, the impoverished… and the earth.
As punishment for their egregious votes I propose that each and every of these climate-denier, Democrat Senators not drive or fly home for their upcoming “Spring Break,” but be compelled to walk home in shame from Washington, DC, to their homes behind a herd of farting cattle.
I didn’t see one word in defense of the GND referencing any of its social measures. AOC and other advocates for the GND only spoke of the need to save the environment. It was an admission that all the social programs were really just stuff they piled on to buy more support from the young & dumb crowd.
Voting “present” made the same statement. Those voting “present” were admitting they didn’t dare vote for such a stupid bill because they knew they would lose the votes of sensible voters, but they knew voting “no” would lose votes among the college indoctrinated.
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Don’t forget, any who were tempted to vot no also risked the wrath of the party leadership. The tactic was an attempt to minimize the gain in political capital of the Republicans, (or minimize the Dems loss) and would only work if the vast majority obeyed.
Yes, it was an attempt to minimize the damage the vote does them. Damage of their own making for proposing such a “stupid bill” in the first place. They were likely banking on Mitch refusing to bring it to the floor not realizing that the bill was so far out there in cow-fart crazy land that bringing it to the floor to go down in flames and ridicule whilst forcing the Dems to either stand with the bill (and be tarred with it in the general) or not voting for the bill (and possibly being excoriated by their far-left base for it in the primary) would be in the best interests of the GOP.
Chick-fil-A should have been all over the GND with posters of a cow and a caption stating “Cows suport the GND. Eat mor chiken.”
It would have garnered Chick-fil-A a lot of publicity, associated the bad spelling of the poster-cow with the increasingly-obvious mental deficiencies of the Democrats, and mocked the ridiculosity of the GND, all in one swell foop.
ROFL
I was hoping for Shrek and Donkey’s flying dragon.
Now look for Democrats to say, “Well, obviously the bill took things too far, but there are some wonderful goals in there and we need to have a discussion on what steps we should be taking.”
Then look for Republicans to negotiate a compromise between a reasonable position and a mind-bogglingly stupid one, settling on something that’s merely incredibly unreasonable.
Leftists are deranged…
In public, Leftists say Global Warming will make the earth uninhabitable in 12 years, and subsequently proposesd an insane $100 trillion Green New Deal which cause an US economic and social collapse.
However, when a Sente vote on the GND was conducted, not ONE Lefty voted for it because if they had, the GOP would be assured to win back the House, Trump would be re-elected and the Senate would likely win a Super Majority in the 2020 elections…
Leftists actually do wish to destroy the US economy and social structure, but don’t want the public to know the details of how they wish to accomplish it as originally proposed by Cloward and Piven in 1966.
I guess after this vote we might think the COGS have been well and truly stopped. Sadly they don’t understand defeat, they don’t know when they are beaten, they will still be talking about marshalling the Eastern army as the hand grenades are rolling down the bunker steps. They are that dedicated to their ridiculous manic ambitions.
Mary Robinson will be pushing her Zimmer frame round, still calling everyone who uses energy evil, as the care home staff try to get her quietly back into bed. As for AOC well this vote will be touted as a victory by tomorrow, nothing changes. For them, the Greens/socialists the defeats and just part of training. It’s like a Bram Stoker horror story, the COGS can’t be destroyed by conventional mean. They never see the light and all who are touched by their coven, remain locked into the fight no matter what.
Well done America though. You are shining a light into the dens of poison or Democrats as they are called over there. Their high priest of Mann made climate change Al Gore may be flushed out of hiding if you keep up this resistance. He was last seen buried in a snow drift he hadn’t expected, somewhere in Northern California.
To anyone who wonders how an extremely ignorant and deluded bartender could suddenly become DNC’s new leader should watch this video showing how AOC is simply a sock puppet for a Far-Left Socialist NGO called Justice Democrats.
AOC’s brother is actually the one who gave Justice Democrats her name for consideration to be one of their sock puppets..
The handlers at Justice Democrats just give AOC a script that she repeats like a parrot. That’s why she says such incredibly stupid things when she goes even a little off script..
She is extremely ignorant on pretty much everything:
Eliminating air travel? Is that what Boeing’s hidden agenda is? Cunnning!
China just ordered 300 Airbus models in France right now.
It will be fun to see how the libtarded news media spins this, since they fawned all over the GND, singing it’s praises to the high heavens.
“It will be fun to see how the libtarded news media spins this”
The Leftwing News Media handled it by doing what they usually do when bad news comes socialism’s way, they ignore it and pretend it didn’t happen.
I don’t see how the Leftwing News Media can get more corrupt. They have a Leftwing political agenda and are pushing it at every opportunity, regardless of the truth.
The lying Leftwing News Media is the greatest present danger to the freedoms of all of us. They create a false reality which will lead us to destruction if were we to believe what they say. They push socialism and socialism is the death of personal freedoms.
Exactly – none of these politicians would be able to have gotten away with anything they’ve done without Goebbels’ cloned army carrying water for them.
There is an old saying – when your neighbor’s cow is bogged down in mud , all four hooves in deep, call for help. The helpfuls arrive, but the only cow’s owner gets to pull the tail – guess why?
In this case no Senator was crazy enough.
If Ocasio-Cortez ever wanted to do some ACTUAL good, she’s got an air-tight lawsuit against the institutions that educated her – there’s no way she could have started out this stupid.
Seriously, if a football player can sue the NFL for brain-damage, what level of damage are these universities liable for?
AOC on the 43 “present” votes – “I *meant* to do that”!
Mike Lee Uses Velociraptors, Tauntauns And Aquaman To Dismantle The Green New Deal
And much props to Sen. Lee for giving it all the seriousness it deserves. And Kudos to his assistant for her heroic efforts at keeping a straight face through out.