Bill Nye’s Latest Climate Warning: The US Will Have To Grow Its Food In Canada

From The Daily Caller

Michael Bastasch | Energy Editor

Bill Nye “the Science Guy” has another global warming prediction — Americans will have to grow their food in Canada if nothing is done to limit temperature rise.

“The agriculture in North America is going to have to move north into what would nominally be Canada and we don’t have the infrastructure,” Nye told MSNBC host Chris Matthews Tuesday night.

“We don’t have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world,” Nye warned.

WATCH:

Nye made his remarks as freezing temperatures descended over much of Canada and the U.S., bringing below-zero temperatures across the Midwest and Great Plains. When wind chill is factored in, it really feels like -53 degrees Fahrenheit to Minnesota residents.

In Chicago, the temperature hit -22 degrees Wednesday morning, with a wind chill of -47 degrees. Officials are warning residents to stay indoors and avoid the dangerous cold.

Television personality Bill Nye poses at the 2017 Creative Arts Emmy Awards in Los Angeles, California

Television personality Bill Nye poses at the 2017 Creative Arts Emmy Awards in Los Angeles, California, U.S. September 9, 2017. REUTERS/Danny Moloshok

More than 220 million Americans are experiencing below-freezing temperatures across the lower-48 states, according to meteorologist Ryan Maue. About 26 million people are living with temperatures at or below -20 degrees.

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1090604823962181640

Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been “hoodwinked” into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.

“I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they’ve been hoodwinked,” Nye said. “They’ve been led astray by this group of like-minded people who feel that the economic effects of getting away from fossil fuels are going to be catastrophic, but that is just simply not true.”

However, coal and natural gas are providing roughly 80 percent of the electricity needed to keep the power and heat on in the Midwest, according to the Midcontinent Independent System Operator that manages the grid.

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Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 2:13 am

In comedy and politics, timing is everything.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 3:13 am

Let’s put Bill Ney in a Little House on the Tundra and let him live off the crops he grows and stay warm at -30C using 20% of the needed energy. He can talk to us in ten years about how we have been hoodwinked.

-19C this morning in the balmy Connecticut rain forest.

Hugs
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 31, 2019 3:35 am

Nye in a warming world, say the Hudson Bay, for a year, growing his crops there. I”ll offer the seed potatoes.

PS. I’ll also provide the shots to the polar bear self-defence tool of his choice.

He could share it in youtube to improve the public recognition of the issue. Most people don’t know how much it has warmed there.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Hugs
January 31, 2019 5:17 am

But there will not be any bears.

Marcus
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
January 31, 2019 6:07 am

No bears because they froze to death on the way to the Beer Store…D’OH !

Sara
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 31, 2019 3:57 am

-23F overnight; -22F at 05:30AM in NE Illinois. We’re not dead yet and the morning constellation of Venus -> Moon->Jupiter is spectacular.

I will put out high-calorie birdfood in about 2 hours. Lots of field sparrows, juncos, house (English) sparrows, tree sparrows yesterday. Hungry little things. Birdfood is on sale at Ace Hdw on a twofer. I’ll go back next week.

And Mr. Nye is way out of his depth in making predictions. He must be desperate for attention AGAIN!

Marcus
Reply to  Sara
January 31, 2019 6:00 am

OK, this isn’t funny anymore…..When it’s too cold and miserable to go get a Timmie’s, life sucks….I knew I should have stayed in Florida but Alley Goree promised me that Canada was going to be a tropical paradise …Now i’m stuck with 800 acres of frozen trees and a bunch of Ligmite mines surrounded by a bunch of puddles full of stoopid Walleye!…sheeeeesh ! : ]

Marcus
Reply to  Sara
January 31, 2019 6:04 am

“-23F overnight; -22F at 05:30AM in NE Illinois. ”
Oh, so you are the warm area…. ; )

Sara
Reply to  Marcus
January 31, 2019 11:52 am

Yes. This is why all the birds come to my house, and the local squirrels. They know where the good stuff is located. 🙂

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 31, 2019 7:18 am

He’s right – up here in Canada we have no infrastructure. All that wheat we grow is brought to market in covered wagons, and since we haven’t invented the wheel yet we have to drag those wagons along rough dirt tracks by mule train. Americans should be so thankful they have the benefit of Bill Nye’s insightful commentary to guide them on the road to socio-economic suicide.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
January 31, 2019 3:46 pm

“Ice Road Conestogas”?
Sounds like the next “The Storm Channel” show!

Linda Cook
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 1, 2019 3:42 pm

Andy Pattullo, you forgot to mention that we also live in Igloos here in Canada. We are a very hardy people!

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 31, 2019 8:35 am

Rich,

I like your idea, but since Bill Nye is a “Science Guy” lets set him up with an important experiment.

Put him in southern Greenland and give him some barley and early Iron Age technology. No sea hunting for him, because he does not come from sturdy Viking stock.

Does anybody really think there has been enough “unprecedented” warming for him to survive in those conditions?

Glen Haas
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 31, 2019 2:26 pm

Good comments:
There is nothing wrong with growing crops in Canada, but we are limited on what different crops will effectively grow there. Mr Nye continues to show his ignorance on Climate and Climate Change and Global Warming. Climate Changes all of the time based on the designs of mother nature. The Globe warms and cools all of the time with our sun and oceans being the main control knobs. CO2 is a very low volume (410 ppm) GHG that is the fertilizer of life.
The rural temperature record of the last 100 years shows virtually no significant temperature increase, with the only “implied” increases coming from the “adjusted” temperature data that did not need to be adjusted. Do we think that Mr. Nye every looks at the “unmanipulated” data?

Trebla
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 3:52 am

Hey Bill, I’m a Canadian. Just walk in. Don’t bother ringing!

vukcevic
Reply to  Trebla
January 31, 2019 4:35 am

My close relative from Toronto who spends every winter in Fort Lauderdale, has just put an offer on 10 hectares in Yellow Knife to build banana plantation.

Marcus
Reply to  vukcevic
January 31, 2019 6:29 am

I’ve already started my Pineapple trees in Iron Bridge area, (way way North of Toronto) right next to my Avocado field…Just look for the big white patch on Google maps..you can’t miss it.. LOL

Ron
Reply to  Trebla
January 31, 2019 5:03 am

We Canadians are going to need a wall at our southern border!

Marcus
Reply to  Ron
January 31, 2019 6:01 am

Ice Wall ?

Bob Greene
Reply to  Marcus
January 31, 2019 6:46 am

Yes because Winter is Coming

Marcus
Reply to  Marcus
January 31, 2019 7:51 am

Actually, I think the last book has been canceled..

RockyRoad
Reply to  Ron
January 31, 2019 6:40 am

With Trdeau’s insane immigration policies, I suspect you’ll get your southern neighbors to help you build it!

Farmer Ch E retired
Reply to  Ron
January 31, 2019 7:09 am

Didn’t you know? The wall on Canada’s side has been completed.
https://oddstuffmagazine.com/funny-pictures-february-12-2017.html/the-wall-on-canadas-side

Reply to  Ron
January 31, 2019 7:10 am

When the Americans get hungry enough,
they’ll come to the new 15 foot walls,
between the US and Canada,
with 16 foot ladders,
and climb over the walls,
to steal Canadian food.

Menicholas
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 31, 2019 2:10 pm

I thought ladders were what the razor wire, second fence, land mines, and auto firing machine gut turrets, were for?

Menicholas
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 31, 2019 2:53 pm

We really need to get that edit button back on line here.

Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 5:08 am

Has Trudeau Destroyed Canada’s Resource Future? – Rex Murphy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_toqPJpyeGw&app=desktop

Rex Murphy of Newfoundland is a national treasure. He speaks common sense with reason and passion.

Rex said: “We mis-value the things that count” and he is correct – Canada is on the road to becoming another starving Venezuela due to leftist government lunacy – and it is the same road that the Progressive Democrats want to take the USA.

I wrote the following in 2018:

Here is how modern politics works:

The far-left is winning, especially in the developing world – over half the countries in the world are pseudo-Marxist dictatorships, based on their leftist phony rhetoric, but are actually just military dictatorships, run for the ruling elite and their armed thugs – see Zimbabwe and Venezuela… and North Korea, Cuba, the Soviet Union countries and many more..

The left gains political power by promising imbeciles lots of free stuff. Then they destroy the economy, create widespread poverty and live like kings atop a ruined state – because you can’t be kings without lots of peasants. Venezuela and Zimbabwe used to be wealthy countries – look at them now. Look at North Korea vs South Korea. Compare Cuba to neighboring island nations.

It is really no different in the developed world. Get elected by lazy greedy imbeciles, destroy the economy with fake green energy and other crazy policies, and live like kings on top of a ruined economy, looking down on all the peasants.

The anti-pipeline thugs have cost Canada over $120 billion to date in lost oil revenues. Nobody is that stupid, including Justin and his advisors – they are deliberately harming our economy. The destruction of Canada’s economy by the far left is no accident – this is their plan.

Marcus
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 31, 2019 7:57 am

I wish WUWT had a like button…10,000 likes anyhoo…..

Ferdberple
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 31, 2019 9:24 am

Even if you read nothing else, read Rex Murphy. One of the best BS detectors on the planet.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 5:24 am

This is both “sick” comedy and politics combined, to wit:

Nye told MSNBC host Chris Matthews Tuesday night.

“The agriculture in North America is going to have to move north into what would nominally be Canada and we don’t have the infrastructure,”

“We don’t have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world,” Nye warned.

What the ell does “railroads and roads” have to do with transporting food products from US and Canada to other countries around the world? Building a few bridges across the Bering Strait from Alaska to Russia would solve Nye’s delusional/insanity problem.

But not completely, to wit:

Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been “hoodwinked” into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.

“I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they’ve been hoodwinked,” Nye said. “They’ve been led astray by this group of like-minded people who feel that the economic effects of getting away from fossil fuels are going to be catastrophic, but that is just simply not true.”

“HA”, …. I assume Nye is actually claiming that “green energy” can exclusively be used for transporting all food products within the boundaries of the US and Canada, as well as from the US and Canada to all other parts of the world.

Me thinks the food would spoil and/or people would be starving to death waiting for those electrically powered “green ” cars, trucks, trains and boats to arrive with their food orders

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
January 31, 2019 11:06 am

I had trouble with “… what would nominally be Canada …”. Why wouldn’t it just be Canada, just like it is now?

MarkW
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
January 31, 2019 12:24 pm

Maybe he’s expecting the US to annex it. Turn it into Northern Montana.

Malcolm Carter
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
January 31, 2019 12:41 pm

In the tweet it says ‘normally’ Canada. Still ominous. If I was one of those conspiracy guys it sounds like there is a plan underway to create a new star on the flag.

Alba
Reply to  Malcolm Carter
January 31, 2019 1:26 pm

Yes, I also noticed that discrepancy. I would say that in the video clip he says’ nominally’. As to why he pu in the word ‘nominally’, perhaps it’s all part and parcel of the Greater Movement for Word Government. Once this is successful, every country will become ‘nominally’ as , in reality, there won’t any longer be separate countries.

Menicholas
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
January 31, 2019 1:45 pm

Nominally and normally mean the same thing in this context.
But neither make any sense whatsoever.
And how long does it take to build and/or widen roads?
How soon is he predicted the US will be unable to grow food?
Is he aware that the US spans 10 or more growing zones?
And in places like CA and FL we can grow multiple crops in a year, because it is…wait for it…really hot?
This guy beclowns himself every time he flaps his jaws.
If we had anything like a same person in the MSM, this jackass would be a laughing stock.
As far as I can tell, the only thing he is an expert at, is exaggerating even the laughable claims of warmista “scientists”.

Dan Sudlik
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 5:35 am

He must be right. I saw a flock of geese heading north yesterday.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
January 31, 2019 5:49 am

You sure it wasn’t a flock of cows heading north via a round trip to the moon?

Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 7:07 am

The “best” thing about being a leftist,
is that stupid head leftists
can get a lot of attention!

Such as Bill Nye, and AOC !

For the subject of climate science,
all you have to do is ignore the science,
and make a scary prediction of climate doom,
to enter the three-decade old
“climate change campfire story contest”,
where the fairy tales are 100%
… 100% wrong.

I believe in real climate science, but
want to get more attention from leftists,
so I’m working on a fairy tale, er, study,
where climate change causes man’s
favorite organ to shrink —
I’m sure that will get published
… unless someone beat me to it !

My climate science blog,
for sensible people who
don’t care about wild guess
predictions of a coming
climate catastrophe …
except to refute them:
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com

Phil R
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 31, 2019 6:32 pm

The “best” thing about being a leftist, is that stupid head leftists can get a lot of attention!

That’s one of the funniest but most direct statements I’ve seen in a long time. I don’t use ROFLMAO much, but the only reason I can type this response is that I didn’t spit my wine all over the keyboard.

I’m stealing that quote!

Phil R
Reply to  Phil R
January 31, 2019 6:34 pm

Think I messed up some of my tags, but you get the gist.

vukcevic
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 7:31 am

One day we have Occasional Alexandra’s the end of the world and next day Bill Nye said Canada will turn into tropical paradise.
I wonder what are these people smoking before breakfast?

RockyRoad
Reply to  vukcevic
January 31, 2019 6:29 pm

Canadian pineapple!

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 8:22 am

I no more need a TV host’s expertise on agriculture than a fish needs a bicycle.

Goldrider
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
January 31, 2019 9:15 am

It’s a good day for Bill Nye to demonstrate “climate change” by licking a railroad track. 😉

Phil R
Reply to  Goldrider
January 31, 2019 6:44 pm

Damn, I wish there was a “like” button. 🙂

Marcus
January 31, 2019 2:15 am

WooHoo , I’m gonna be rich ! I knew my grampa had a good idea when he bought all that frozen 800 acres of tundra just north of Sudbury, Ontario instead of paying for my university..Now I can sell all my prefrozen peas,carrots,taters,tomatoes and kiwi fruit to the brainless masses…. D’OH !

Phil R
Reply to  Marcus
January 31, 2019 6:54 pm

As a person south of the border, isn’t Sudbury a big mining area? Studied geology a long time ago, but forgot most of it.

January 31, 2019 2:15 am

In a few years, Bill Nye will be getting all his frozen vegetables from Canada.

goldminor
Reply to  Nicholas William Tesdorf
January 31, 2019 2:52 am

+10 … beat me to it

Marcus
Reply to  goldminor
January 31, 2019 5:34 am

Dang permanent moderation sucks…lol

Patrick MJD
January 31, 2019 2:16 am

I was browsing videos on YouTube some while back and stumbled on one labelled “10 people who claim to be experts but are not”, or something like that, and guess who was at the top of the list? Bill Nye. He’s not a climate expert. Gosh! Shock! Horror! I had a bit of a laugh about that.

Dave N
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 31, 2019 2:40 am

I stopped watching after the presenter misrepresented Trump’s bankruptcies (e.g. the relative number against how many businesses he had an interest in), and completely ignored Trump’s successes. If he was being so one-sided about that, he was possibly leaving out buckets of other details.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 31, 2019 4:14 am

And Nye is totally ignorant about agriculture as well as weather/climate. I love how he casually says that the US will move farming operations north into what would normally be Canada…any thoughts about what the Normal Canadians think about that little bit of aggression?

Ron
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
January 31, 2019 5:11 am

Help your self to anything north of the 60th parallel. There aren’t any more Polar Bears left and you shouldn’t have any problems with your tractors and combines on the tundra.

GREG in Houston
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
January 31, 2019 5:56 am

Well, he said “nominally” Canada, not “normally.” Nominal means “in name only,” so I guess the US is going to invade so we can grow more wheat to ship around the world.

Menicholas
Reply to  GREG in Houston
January 31, 2019 2:02 pm

In engineering, nominally means normally.
In other contexts, it has other definitions: Nominal can mean “in name only” and similar usage; to refer to the name of something; insignificantly small or trifling; normal or as specified; not adjusted to inflation; relating to a noun; and a few others.
None make sense as used in the sentence from Nye.

Reply to  Menicholas
January 31, 2019 2:59 pm

Of course “nominally” makes sense. Once the UN has implemented their climate agenda (with the complicit help of the Democrats), ALL countries will only exist nominally (i.e. in name only).

MarkW
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 31, 2019 12:26 pm

The only thing Nye is an expert in is self promotion.

Greg
January 31, 2019 2:23 am

Because everyone knows food can’t be grown at the equator…

Hugs
Reply to  Greg
January 31, 2019 4:55 am

Indeed. And everyone knows Greenland is called green because the Vikings thought they could farm there.

Well, Nye is not exactly Viking.

Paul Blase
Reply to  Hugs
January 31, 2019 4:03 pm

Well, they could, at the time.

Ric
January 31, 2019 2:25 am

Why is he called the “Science Guy”? What “science” is he talking about?

David Lentz
Reply to  Ric
January 31, 2019 2:46 am

Bill Nye’s only earned degree is in Mechanical Engineering.

Non Nomen
Reply to  David Lentz
January 31, 2019 2:56 am

So he knows how to screw up things.

Hivemind
Reply to  Ric
January 31, 2019 3:21 am

Apparently he once ran a TV show about science for easily impressionable American children.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Hivemind
January 31, 2019 4:20 pm

Mr. Wizard actually introduced children into science.
Bill Nye’s intro was more along the lines of “Wham, Bang, Thank you, Ma’am!” science.
Lots of flash and confusion. Not coherent.
In the morning, you’re sure not what happened but you’re left with with the feeling he won’t be around in 9 months.

Greg61
Reply to  Ric
January 31, 2019 11:46 am

He failed at engineering which was his education, tried stand up comedy. I guess someone thought he must have taken a few science courses in engineering school + entertainment background = good enough to fake it as a scientist on a tv show for kids.

Non Nomen
January 31, 2019 2:28 am

Frosted conflakes! Yum!

It once was a pleasure to watch Bill Nye.
but these days have long gone by.

Bob Greene
Reply to  Non Nomen
January 31, 2019 6:50 am

Too young to remember Mr. Wizard?

Non Nomen
Reply to  Bob Greene
January 31, 2019 12:11 pm

Yep. But just a little bit.

Ron Long
January 31, 2019 2:32 am

Bill Nye, the bow tie makes me look like the Science Guy, needs to think about some basics. The circum-polar earth is 40,000 kilometers, so 10,000 kilometers equator to pole. If equator averages 30C and pole -30C we get a change of 60C, or 166 kilometers per degree C change. Sure there are other factors, one of them being increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere makes plants more tolerant, but the basics of large-scale shifting of growing zones is not a worry, in above calculation farmers wouldn’t move 166 kilometers to adapt, they simply plant a little earlier or later. We live in an Ice Age, and wait until the next glacial event kicks in, then we will see farmers moving.

E J Zuiderwijk
January 31, 2019 2:42 am

The guy is certifiable.

Non Nomen
Reply to  E J Zuiderwijk
January 31, 2019 2:54 am

He’ll never make it for ISO9000.

Reply to  Non Nomen
January 31, 2019 3:09 am

He wouldn’t be able to climb over the mountain of waster paper he’s produced trying to assure us that CO2 driven CAGW is a sellable product!!

January 31, 2019 2:43 am

To digress slightly, see the following:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47063973

The warmist academics are now saying that the Little Ice Age is solely due to your ancestors! Supposedly the influx of Europeans from the very late 15th Century onwards led to native Indians abandoning cleared agricultural areas which were very soon covered in trees. This supposedly increased CO2 take up, and reduced atmospheric CO2 levels and thus increased the Earth’s heat loss which in turn produced lower temperatures.

There are 101 reasons why this is implausible!

How desperate can you become, simply to prop up your religion!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Peter Wilson
January 31, 2019 3:26 am

Yeah because we all know that the Indians, sorry native American/first nations were agricultural societies forced by the invading hunter/gatherers from Europe to convert to the hunter/gathering lifestyle. Once everbody in North America (especially the former Hudson Bay Breadbasket) was huntin’ and gatherin’, there was a gigantic drawdown of CO2, well-known to be the only factor in climate.

Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 31, 2019 5:32 pm

Well…not exactly correct. The Mesoamerican cultures and even some as far north as central Illinois along the Mississippi valley did have large agricultural civilizations, but those civilizations were already collapsing or collapsed by the time European settlers invaded. The Incan civilization was in political upheaval, but still thriving.

However, I am not aware of any of these instances where vast swaths of agricultural plots were lost to reforestation. I do believe the almost exact happened when the European settlers began habitation of the Ohio river valley with great deforestation. Large virgin forested areas of Minnesota and Wisconsin were clear cut for lumber.

I’d really like to see the data that support their claims.

NorwegianSceptic
Reply to  Peter Wilson
January 31, 2019 6:34 am

….This scale of regrowth is figured to have drawn down sufficient CO₂ that the concentration of the gas in the atmosphere eventually fell by 7-10ppm ….

That would’ve made a great impact. Yeah, right. They are totally mad.

Phoenix44
Reply to  Peter Wilson
January 31, 2019 7:00 am

And ignores the deforestation that occurred in Europe, which should therefore have led to a significant increase in temperature. So we had a medieval warm period when we had all the forest, then we got rid of it and it got colder…untilw e got rid of some North American cropland and had slow growing forest instead.

It’s like they have never learned how to actually analyse stuff.

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Peter Wilson
January 31, 2019 7:10 am

Just read the full story – UCL estimate that there were 60 million Native Americans in 1500!

That’s right at the top end of estimates for the whole of the Americas, and really is far higher than estimates before the whole field become heavily politicised. Canada reckons a maximum of 2 million in 1500, but possibly as low as 200,000.

At the low estimates, there is absolutely no way this can possibly be true.

Paul Blase
Reply to  Tim Hammond
January 31, 2019 4:01 pm

Possibly true. Check out Cahokia Mounds in Illinois. It was a major trading center for much of North America. This population was only possible because the Aztecs had developed Maize and production had spread North.

What people don’t realize is that diseases, particularly smallpox, killed upwards of 90% of the population of the Americas during the 1500’s. Entire nations vanished.

Read “Guns, Germs, and Steel” by Jared Diamond and “The Lost City of the Monkey God” by Douglas Preston.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Paul Blase
February 1, 2019 6:08 am

Or “1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus” by Charles Mann.

Hugh Mannity
Reply to  Peter Wilson
January 31, 2019 10:56 am

Yea, I heard that on the BBC World Service this morning.

I promptly subjected my car radio to some heavy-duty verbal abuse. Which had no influence on the presenters, but warmed the interior of my car a couple of much-needed degrees.

I started to count the ways this was wrong, but ran out of fingers and it’s too cold to take my socks off so I can count on my toes as well.

Roy Koczela
Reply to  Peter Wilson
January 31, 2019 11:03 am

They say ‘European settlement’ but really mean ‘European diseases’. In those places where Europeans actually settled in large numbers, it would not have led to a net abandonment of land. They also appear to have done their calculation about how much land was abandoned using a whole lot of hand-waving.

It is an interesting hypothesis but requires a lot more analysis and tells us nothing about the present.

4 Eyes
January 31, 2019 2:43 am

Keep raving on Bill, you’re an asset to all sceptics. 97% of the entire population of the world agrees that is garbage

Bill Powers
Reply to  4 Eyes
January 31, 2019 3:15 am

Which is why they can’t give this guy enough prime time. Just keep him away from the after school hours. He scares the chillun”

Alasdair
January 31, 2019 2:46 am

A severe case of the CO2 virus.

Schitzree
January 31, 2019 2:48 am

The last time I checked, Canada ALRRADY grows large quantities of grains.

Even if the warming would happen like Bill describes*, it would just mean all agricultural would move a hundred or so miles North… over one hundred years. I think we could manage to build new infrastructure in that time.

*it won’t. Global Warming wouldn’t ‘shift’ temperature zones North. It would widen the temperature zones, with the tropics staying nearly the same and Areas North and South having progressively higher temperature increases, mostly in winter.

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Johann Wundersamer
January 31, 2019 2:53 am

“Bill Nye “the Science Guy” has another global warming prediction — Americans will have to grow their food in Canada if nothing is done to limit temperature rise.

“The agriculture in North America is going to have to move north into what would nominally be Canada and we don’t have the infrastructure,” Nye told MSNBC host Chris Matthews Tuesday night.

“We don’t have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world,” Nye warned.”
___________________________________________________

That’s a good reason to complete the

https://www.google.com/search?q=keystone+xl+pipeline&oq=xxl+pipeline&aqs=chrome.

– not for oil, but to transport food from Canada to the contiguous US.

Schitzree
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
January 31, 2019 4:08 am

Oh God. A Poutine Pipeline.

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Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Schitzree
January 31, 2019 6:11 am

Ironically, the same gravy and cheese curd that would keep the french fries flowing through such a pipeline would then clog the arteries of anyone eating the poutine.

michael hart
January 31, 2019 2:54 am

Even if he was right about needing to grow all future food in Canada (honestly, what a dipstick), then we would just jolly well go ahead and build a few roads and a railway for agricultural infrastructure. That’s what normally happens in civilized places that aren’t ruled by environmental activists and NIMBYs who get to ban anything with a whiff of industrial activity.

January 31, 2019 2:59 am

There is nothing you can do about natural climate change, except be warned about it ahead of time;
if we can get people to stop putting money in the man made climate nonsense and focus on looking at natural solar cycles, like I am saying:
There is going to be major drought time, on the great plains of north America starting just about this year or maybe next year (Canada will even be worse affected due to its high latitude)
2019-87 = 1932
[Dust Bowl drought 1932-1939]
1932-87 = 1845
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286971648_Drought_in_the_western_Great_Plains_1845-56_Impacts_and_implications
that drought period was from 1845 until 1856
I think I heard somewhere now about a drought that played out in in Virginia from 1755 onward. True?
Co-incidence?
Or Gleissberg solar cycle? {the GB cycle is calculated by me and others as being about 87 years although it can vary by a few years].

The extra record cold [winters] as predicted by me now have already started. The dry summers are lying ahead.
http://breadonthewater.co.za/henrys-climate/

I hope you come right:

moving south, I would say…!!!

Reply to  henryp
January 31, 2019 3:26 am

Hello HenryP,

I have no opinion re drought but agree that moderate global cooling is imminent, if not already started.

Regards, Allan

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/18/trump-is-right-to-question-climate-change-causes/#comment-2496476

I (we) predicted in an article written 1Sept2002 in the Calgary Herald that naturally-caused global cooling would resume by 2020-2030. I am leaning toward a bit earlier, but this is a complex issue and “The science is NOT settled”.

Depending on the amount of cooling, this could move Canada’s grain-growing region further south, for example making agriculture in the Peace River district uneconomic due to earlier frosts.

Dr. Tim Ball published this article recently, and mentioned the Peace River District, where Alberta Premier Rachel Notley hails from:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/02/climate-is-not-the-only-limit-to-agriculture/

“The Peace River country began to open to energy potential, mostly natural gas, in the early 20th century, but agricultural settlement was boosted by the global warming that occurred from 1900 to 1940; a greater warming than occurred after 1980. THE REGION WAS AFFECTED BY THE COOLING AFTER 1940 AND BY THE 1970S WAS STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN ITSELF. I KNEW SEVERAL FARMERS WHO HOMESTEADED IN THE REGION ONLY TO LOSE THEIR LAND. It is interesting to consider the adaptations made to survive. Beef cattle became a major industry, and some farmers re-introduced bison, but perhaps the most interesting was the production of grass seed. Luckily, the cooling did not continue, and the Peace prospered. It certainly would benefit from global warming, although there is another limit, the soils. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WARMING DOES NOT OCCUR AND COOLING RETURNS AS THE BEST CLIMATE EXPERTS EXPECT?”

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 31, 2019 3:47 am

Hi Allan
Looking at my results, global cooling happening already.

I said this before:
simple physics tells me that as the temperature differential between the poles and equator grows larger due to the cooling from the top, very likely something will also change on earth. Predictably, there would be a small (?) shift of cloud formation and precipitation, more towards the equator, on average. At the equator insolation is 684 W/m2 whereas on average it is 342 W/m2. So, if there are more clouds in and around the equator, this will amplify the cooling effect due to less direct natural insolation of earth (clouds deflect a lot of radiation). Furthermore, in a cooling world there is more likely less moisture in the air, but even assuming equal amounts of water vapor available in the air, a lesser amount of clouds and precipitation will be available for spreading to higher latitudes. So, a natural consequence of global cooling is that at the higher latitudes it will become both cooler (winters) and warmer (drier summers). It is happening already, is it not?

End quote

Would you agree with my reasoning: At the higher latitudes global cooling causes cooler winters [no clouds] and warmer drier summers [no clouds]. Alternatively, at the somewhat lower latitudes where there is precipiatation it will obviously lead to more snow..

All of this happening, is it not? Austria was recently covered in meters of snow. The summer in Holland and Belgium was evry, very dry. The winter in USA seems very harsh…

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 31, 2019 6:27 am

Hi Henry,

Except for cooling, your comments are outside my areas of study, so I have no opinion.

I studied climate science for 17 years before writing my first paper. I’ma pretty careful about my public opinions and often research them for years.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 31, 2019 6:56 am

Allan

I know something about stats and I developed a special sampling procedure to assess global warming/or -cooling.
Funny thing is that I suspect even the Egyptians already knew about the GB Cycle simply by observing the rise and fall of the river Nile. Currently it is cooling: more rain in and around the equator….

You can figure the details of my sampling procedure from my reports on the website breadonthewater.co.za

I do challenge anyone here to follow the same sampling procedure

1)Look at the average annual temperature of at least 50 stations in total, feel free to take a bigger sample, must be an even number
2) equal amount of weather stations nh and sh
3) all stations must balance out to zero latitude!!
4) look at the deratives of the least square equations over 4 periods of time which indicates the speed of warming /cooling in K/annum

Plot: K/annum against time to see the acceleration of warming/cooling
What have you got to lose?

Ferdberple
Reply to  henryp
January 31, 2019 9:51 am

Henry, your method is much better than the gridding method so long as point 1 is random.

The advantage is that you a conforming to the central limit theorem while mainstream climate science dies not. As a result your data can be reliably analysed as a standard distribution while no one knows the true distribution of gridded data.

As a result we can have confidence in your statistical finding, but the results of mainstream gridding are very likely to have unknown and unknowable errors.

Reply to  Ferdberple
January 31, 2019 1:25 pm

Yes. Random. That is important. I will react in detail later. Bedtime here now.

Reply to  HenryP
February 1, 2019 6:10 am

In response to Ferdberple and Menicholas

Menicholas says:
It is easy to predict dryer than normal precipitation over any particular area will occur…just make it vague and not any specific time period…you will surely be correct..

Henry says
I would think that the idea of climate science is to predict future weather patterns. It seems Ferdberple looked over my results and agrees with me that I found an important pattern, by simple evaluation of annual T at a number of terrestrial stations going back in history 40 years or more. The sampling procedure is important. There are indeed some more details that I left out. But I am sure my experiment is repeatable.
All the major data sets are wrong exactly because they are not properly balanced. UAH and RSS had technical problems with orbits and who knows what else [e.g solar degradation due to low solar magnetic field strengths] and you can see that they always re-calibrated / adjusted on the same [wrong] terrestrial data sets. So they are all wrong and none of them have even picked up that it is already globally cooling…..

I hope the USA is waking up to this problem now due to the current weather?

Anyway, I can help. It is the 87 GB cycle where incoming energy behaves like a sine wave. So the half cycle looks like a simple quadratic curve. God is throwing a ball at us. You are supposed to catch it. I am not 100% sure why this is happening but history shows that the dry weather hits the higher latitudes nh every 87 years.
I am saying it is happening already [western Europe had a very dry summer]. So kill me if I am out by one or two years. But drought time in the USA in the bread belt coming up, soon, in 1 or 2 years or just about now. If it follows the same pattern as the dust bowl drought it could last for 7 or 8 years.

Go south, young man. Go south. Before it is too late.

I don’ t think I am vague in my prediction?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 31, 2019 6:37 am

“in the early 20th century, but agricultural settlement was boosted by the global warming that occurred from 1900 to 1940; a greater warming than occurred after 1980.”

Yes, it was warmer in the 1930’s than it is today. According to Bill Nye’s hypothesis we should all be living in Canada right now because it was too hot for us in the States.

It was hot in the States at the time, and very dry, and people did relocate because of it, but then the extreme heat of a decade started to cool and cool and cool and people moved back to the areas they vacated and their gardens grow quite well now. No permanent damage done.

Henryp says we should expect a drought in the central U.S. in the near future, and I wouldn’t say that’s wrong, because we are prone to drought around here, short term and long term, but the weather pattern recently is bringing a lot of moisture into our area and just a few weeks ago eliminated what little drought we had. So if drought is coming, we have a little moisture stored away in the soil that will mitigate it for a while.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 31, 2019 7:13 am

Tom
yes,
I think the climate distortionists – claiming man is to blame for climate change – will win it in the end, especially when the world food crisis will reach its highest point during the latter half of the nexr decade due to the droughts in the north of America and Europe.
Their aim is a world government
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/16/claim-we-need-planetary-sovereignty-to-address-the-climate-crisis/

Menicholas
Reply to  henryp
January 31, 2019 2:39 pm

Droughts are typically caused by weather patterns that persist over time, resulting in altered wind patterns, or high pressure becoming locked in place for some period of time.
If a dry area becomes dry enough and large enough, there can be self sustaining effects relating to very little evapotranspiration and hence low humidity at low levels.
But in all of these cases, adjacent areas are getting extra rain, and often floods.
It is common to have a drought on one side of the US and overly wet conditions a few to several hundred miles away.
Because most of the moisture in the air is coming from evaporation of the tropical sea surface water, and this changes very little from year to year.
How can you say some change in the Sun will cause a drought in one particular area, and not somewhere else?
It is easy to predict dryer than normal precipitation over any particular area will occur…just make it vague and not any specific time period…you will surely be correct. Because at any given time some areas are getting abnormally dry weather.
Ditto with “cold Winters”. “Unusually cold weather in Winter happens every single year! Some place or another, at some point in the season. November was very cold in the Eastern US in November, unusually warm in December, and now unusually cold again. Next week the pattern will flip and there will be a period of warmer than normal in the places now frigidly cold.
So pretty much any vague prediction will be true, as long as you make it vague and over a period of time, rather than some particular time and place.
Try this: Where will it be unusually dry this coming May? How about August? In both cases, please do tell what state will be the driest. Or make a particular month and state in some future year.

Greg Cavanagh
January 31, 2019 3:00 am

Is this what you call a trapped mind?

Someone who even mentions that goods are transported by road and train, yet can’t figure out that new roads and tracks can be made to go from wherever the goods are produced to wherever the goods are needed.

Some serious disconnect with reality happening there.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 31, 2019 3:06 am

… new roads and tracks can be made

Some of the Green Blob must have told him that roads and railways are harmful to flora and fauna, unsustainable and therefore no new ones will be allowed.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 31, 2019 6:40 am

“Some serious disconnect with reality happening there.”

This affects most Alarmists.

Phoenix44
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 31, 2019 7:04 am

That that’s the only reason roads and tracks are made – to get people and stuff from where it is to where it is wanted.

I do believe that highlights a serious problem with how many on the Left/Progressive end of things think – that what they see around them is somehow a “natural” environment that will always be there and always has been there. That means that is should be shared equally and that if they do that it will continue to exist and be renewed.

LarryD
Reply to  Phoenix44
January 31, 2019 1:56 pm

https://www.visionandvalues.org/wp-content/cache/wp-rocket/www.visionandvalues.org/2015/07/the-righteous-mind-understanding-conservatives-and-liberals/index.html_gzip

“But Haidt’s second major discovery is far more consequential: the concept of “the conservative advantage.” Based on painstaking cross-cultural social-psychological experimentation, Haidt establishes that the moral foundations of liberals and conservatives are not just different, they are dramatically unequal. The liberal moral matrix rests essentially entirely on the left-most foundations; the conservative moral foundation—though slanted to the right—rests upon all six.

“This is a stunning finding with enormous implications. The first is that conservatives can relate to the moral thinking of liberals, but the converse is not true at all. Haidt, who is liberal himself, elegantly explains how and why conservatives will view liberals as merely misguided while liberals tend to view conservatives as incomprehensible, insane, immoral, etc.

“Another implication is that liberal prescriptions tend to be incredibly single-minded as compared to those of conservatives. Haidt uses the metaphor of a bee hive to illustrate. A liberal, finding a bee in the hive suffering from injustice, is motivated more or less exclusively by the desire to get justice for the bee. A conservative, being partially driven by the Care/Harm foundation, also desires to alleviate the injustice, but tries to find a solution that also contemplates the survival of the hive itself.”

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 31, 2019 5:44 pm

Yep, obviously a failed engineer. Who does he think builds the roads and railways? And this never occurred to him?

tonyb
Editor
January 31, 2019 3:06 am

I thought , wow! are we being warned in advance of Americas’ next military adventure?

“The agriculture in North America is going to have to move north into what would nominally be Canada and we don’t have the infrastructure,” Nye told MSNBC host Chris Matthews Tuesday night.”

However Nye actually said ‘normally’ not ‘nominally’ as quoted in the text here, so I guess the armed forces and the anti war protestors can stand down as annexing your northern neighbour is not on the agenda after all.

I only know this guy from ‘Big Bang theory’. He is surely not taken seriously by anyone in authority?

tonyb

lee
January 31, 2019 3:07 am

Bill Nye. Who once had a video of himself explaining trade winds as westerlies?
Long since “disappeared” I fear.

Jim
January 31, 2019 3:07 am

In further news, evil Canadians will no longer burn in hell. They will be forced to move to Texas instead.

Tom Johnson
Reply to  Jim
January 31, 2019 6:22 am

I hate to tell you this, Jim, but they’re already here. Drive around any “Winter Texan” ghetto, and Ontario license plates dominate. Wisconsin and Minnesota are not far behind. Of course, they all go back to “God’s Country” in the summer.

Farmer Ch E retired
Reply to  Jim
January 31, 2019 8:01 am

Reminds me of a country song a former co-worker and friend wrote:
‘Your Daddy Don’t Live in Heaven (He’s in Houston).”
My friend I believe was a Berkeley grad who never thought he’d end up doing country music.

Richard Briscoe
January 31, 2019 3:16 am

. . . and Columbia will have to grow its coca in Nebrasca.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Richard Briscoe
January 31, 2019 3:52 am

ColOmbia!

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 31, 2019 6:18 am

NebrasKa

Robert of Ottawa
January 31, 2019 3:19 am

This is a bad thing? Make Canada Warm Again!

Hugs
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
January 31, 2019 5:00 am

+10. I have my feet frozen again at home, and the thing is I’m running out of firewood.

I can’t take more climate change, but some warming would be welcome.

Marcus
Reply to  Hugs
January 31, 2019 8:18 am

As a good Canadian neighbor, I will gladly keep you warm….As per the wood choppin’ stuff….? I need more than “Hugs” for that ! LOL

Goldrider
Reply to  Hugs
January 31, 2019 9:22 am

I’m pissed about this solar minimum biz; I’d thought as I get old I’d be living in the balmy climate of New England warmed to South Carolina. Today it’s about like Siberian tundra. We are not amused.
Alarmists who think the world should be COLDER should colonize the Arctic circle.

Schitzree
January 31, 2019 3:21 am

I know a lot of millennials grew up watching this guy. To them he was the face of ‘Science!’

I grew up with Mr Wizard. Needless to say, with him as a role model Bill Nye looked more like a clown then a scientist. Still does, now I think about it.

~¿~

Craig
January 31, 2019 3:51 am

Bill Nye is not the problem. The corrupt mainstream media that present him a credible is a problem, but ultimately, the people who are too ignorant to know that Bill Nye is ignorant and that the media is lying to them are the real problem.

Carl Friis-Hansen
January 31, 2019 3:56 am

About 1200 years ago they grew grain in southern Greenland, they still grow grain in southern Texas. Modern farming is pretty resilient to temperatures. More important is the presipitation during the sommer, cheap fossil fuel and lots of CO2 /NOSARC

commieBob
January 31, 2019 4:00 am

I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they’ve been hoodwinked, …

So rural Americans are simple and stupid?

Sophisticated, college indoctrinated, folks in the coastal urban areas are easier to hoodwink. smart fools

Farmer Ch E retired
Reply to  commieBob
January 31, 2019 8:18 am

Farmers order gasoline and diesel delivered to their farms to store in on-site above-ground and buried tanks (we did). They know ever too well how their livelihood will be harmed by rising fuel costs or forced renewables by the greens.

Steve O
January 31, 2019 4:17 am

Once again, the downside doesn’t seem all that bad. If the worst of all scenarios comes to pass, a vast wilderness of frozen tundra with rich, virgin soil is available for farming. People will migrate North to Saskatchewan and Alberta instead of South to Florida and Texas.

But oh no! It will never work because there are no roads or railroads up there! I guess we’d better build those 350,000 wind turbines then…

Sapaud
January 31, 2019 4:20 am

Politicians, either they are brain dead scumbags or they are corrupt/criminal to the bone.

Lance
Reply to  Sapaud
January 31, 2019 7:01 am

but you repeat yourself!

H.R.
Reply to  Sapaud
January 31, 2019 7:07 am

C. Both of the above

James in WNC
Reply to  Sapaud
January 31, 2019 9:06 am

“Corrupt, incompetent or both?” I mutter this a lot.

J.H.
January 31, 2019 4:21 am

Mr Nye is a clown. A paid clown in a costume with a bow tie, reading a script. The man has neither the learning nor the intellect to understand that he is a paid shill for ecofascism. Without his script, he is nothing.

M.W.Plia
Reply to  J.H.
January 31, 2019 5:48 am

I agree J.H., and along with the world’s academic, entertainment, governing and media elites his ignorance on this issue is fascinating and dominates his “thinking”.

Here in Canada he will get lots of media play for this. CBC radio/tv, CTV, TVO Agenda, The Toronto Star and The Globe and Mail….when it comes to “Climate Change” Nye is still the go to guy.

Gordon
January 31, 2019 4:22 am
John
January 31, 2019 4:25 am

If Nye predicts it, then I feel certain it won’t happen.

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 31, 2019 4:34 am

The agriculture is going to have to move north into what would normally be Canada

So, it won’t be Canada any more? Nye is going to take it over?

The Queen may have something to say about that…

Admad
January 31, 2019 4:35 am

Alan D. McIntire
January 31, 2019 4:38 am

I seem to recall from my history reading that the Aborigines in Mexico bred corn in the first place. Mexico still grows plenty of corn and beans despite being warmer and closer to the equator than the U.S.

People practicing the Alarmist Global Warming religion cannot be reasoned with. Anyone who attacks their religious faith is committing a mortal sin, and is to be shunned as an evil heretic., They even use the same LANGUAGE as Paul used in his letters- just as Paul referred to wicked Christ deniers, those practicing the global warming faith refer to wicked CAGW deniers. They even adopted the obsolete Christian practice of purchasing indulgences, called “carbon credits” in the new religion.

Here is an example from “Quora”

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-respond-effectively-to-climate-change-deniers/answer/Daniel-Kinch-2

“It is pointless to try and respond to climate change deniers…..People don’t have time to persuade the unbelievers.”

Roger Knights
January 31, 2019 4:40 am

“However, coal and natural gas are providing roughly 80 percent of the electricity needed to keep the power and heat on in the Midwest,”

Renewables’ advocates should be challenged to explain how the region would fare with its power generation shifted in their direction under a future polar vortex.

Menicholas
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 31, 2019 2:45 pm

Most of the remaining 20% is from nuclear, hydro, and geothermal.
Wind and Sun is a tiny fraction, and on very cold night and days may be near zero percent of power generation.

Chris Morrisonh
January 31, 2019 4:47 am

I blame HD tv for all these botox presenter types. Nothing much is moving on the outside for this self-styled science guy and the toxins seem to have seeped into his brain. Northing much moving on the inside either.

Everything 97% rock solid.

Carter Duchesney
January 31, 2019 4:53 am

Aside from being idiotic because of “science” he speaks as if it is just assumed that that would happen. We are already growing food. You can buy some if you’d like..

Prjindigo
January 31, 2019 4:55 am

Uhuh, I’ll go warn the blueberry farmers east of me who are growing two crops a year one hundred miles South of Cairo Egypt.

The only reason we don’t grow two wheat crops a year down here in Florida is the soil isn’t any good for mechanized agriculture. If you look globally there are a dozen nations that grow wheat, barley and other staples right on the equator without any trouble.

Joe Born
January 31, 2019 5:01 am

The corn-yield map at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/21/co2-and-crops-nas-vs-science/ seems relevant to Mr. Nye’s thesis.

Sheri
January 31, 2019 5:08 am

Bill Nye, the bow-tie guy.

Hugh Mannity
Reply to  Sheri
January 31, 2019 11:08 am

Makes me want to give away my collection of bow ties for fear of being associated with Nye

MassS
January 31, 2019 5:35 am

If the US only had renewables, thousands would be dead already.

Ferdberple
Reply to  MassS
January 31, 2019 9:41 am

No. Millions would have died during this cold snap without energy for heating. They would have gone to sleep and never woken.

The survivors would be found huddled around the burned ashes of their furniture.

Latitude
January 31, 2019 5:35 am

Bill will have to explain why Canada buys almost $1 billion in agricultural products from Florida every year….

Menicholas
Reply to  Latitude
January 31, 2019 3:02 pm

And every Winter, Florida rents a few million Canadians for a few months.
How many from the US spend a few months of every year in Canada?

tty
January 31, 2019 5:38 am

I suppose farmers in North Dakota could always switch to bananas when it grows to hot to grow oranges.

Bruce Cobb
January 31, 2019 5:43 am

“We don’t have the infrastructure” is classic misdirection on the part of Bill Nye the Doofus Guy.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
February 1, 2019 9:37 am

Bill Nye the lying guy

Phaedo
January 31, 2019 5:44 am

Senile. It’s tragic.

troe
January 31, 2019 5:49 am

We are fortunate in our foes. If Bill Nye didn’t exist we would make him up.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
January 31, 2019 6:01 am

Dumber than a bag of spanners.

Obviously by his line of reasoning they can’t grow food in the tropics – except that they can.

Tom Johnson
January 31, 2019 6:06 am

Not only does Nye not understand climate, he doesn’t understand agriculture and roads, either. In 1958, I moved to northern Minnesota. I lived literally on Highway 2. I could sit on my front porch and throw a rock across it. Highway 2 stretched from North Dakota to Duluth. It carried so much grain from the fields of North Dakota to awaiting ships at Duluth, that grain simply spilled from the trucks altered migratory bird habits along the route. That’s right, Mr. Nye, BOATLOADS OF GRAIN, SHIPPED ATOUND THE WORLD, MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY AGO. The roads are much, much better, now.

There were roads into Canada, too, many of them. They ranged from dirt roads to broad highways. A good paving crew could turn them from dirt roads to super highways in a couple of weeks. From the Rockies to Winnipeg there are not even bridges to be built. (Canada might need to build walls, though.)

Now I live in Southern Texas, a good 25 degrees F warmer, on average. In Minnesota, the farmers needed corn to be “knee high by the Fourth (of July). Here, the corn can be knee high by the fourth (of March). Vast plains of grain grow in both places. A couple of degrees warmer in Canada will open up even more vast plains there. It might possibly alter the varieties of crops grown here, but with our rich farm lands, and abundant rains, it will certainly not turn the farmlands into deserts.

Marcus
January 31, 2019 6:12 am

My little lady friend just asked ” How stupid could one person be ?”
After watching the video above, now she knows..

ATheoK
January 31, 2019 6:26 am

“Bill Nye “the Science Guy” has another global warming prediction — Americans will have to grow their food in Canada if nothing is done to limit temperature rise”

Nye is utterly clueless and narcissistically foolish.
All press and fan attentions are great and glorious, who cares about reality and real people.

A) Anti-science guy Nye totally ignores all of the crops grown throughout the world’s tropics and sub-tropics.
B) CAGW alarmists make these threats regularly, but are unable to demonstrate or prove any impacts to temperate crops based on temperature changes allegedly caused by CO₂.
C) Anti-science guy Nye is oblivious to all of his previous failed predictions and dodgy faux science.

RockyRoad
January 31, 2019 6:35 am

As a novice fruit grower I know that peach and nectarine trees don’t survive temperatures of minus 30 F; at that point the trunks split and the tree dies. Is Bill Nye aware that Canada is synonymous with the Polar Vortex? I’ve also heard that the frost line in Canada is moving progressively south every year, reducing the area in which grain can grow! I’ve never been impressed with Bill’s acumen in science (he’s an engineer by training) and now even less impressed with his grasp of agronomy and geography!

Graemethecat
January 31, 2019 6:46 am

Dos this mean that Mexico will have to move its agriculture North to the US? If not, why not?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 31, 2019 7:10 am

That’s a really inconvenient question. Stop it! Stop it at once!

Michael Ozanne
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 31, 2019 7:53 am
Editor
January 31, 2019 6:46 am

What an ignorant man he is…….

We grow a lot of cool summer crops in warm to hot summer regions, Potato is a fine example of a cool summer loving plant, yet can grow in Eastern Washington state where hot is the normal summer average.

He should stick to what he does best, make other ignorant warmists look smart compared to him.

January 31, 2019 6:59 am

Hi Alan Macrae
Our Vancouver “Sir John ” dinner on January 11, had Murphy as the speaker.
His first ten minutes were off the cuff and very funny. Best speaker we have had.
On the threat of dictatorships now:
Decent people in decent counties have intervened to end Europe’s dreadful experiments in authoritarian government.
Examples in the early 1800s, 1914 and 1939 were fronted by military dictatorships. As was the continuing nemesis of Communist dictatorships.
I’ve used Gell-Mann’s definition of a totalitarian system and have applied it to politics:
“That which is not compulsory is prohibited.”
The enemy now to freedom and prosperity is no longer military dictatorships.
It is the Welfare Dictatorship.
And it will be difficult to defeat.

John Endicott
January 31, 2019 7:04 am

The guys an idiot who hasn’t been a credible spokesperson for science in decades (if ever).

January 31, 2019 7:15 am

Tom
yes,
I think the climate distortionists – claiming man is to blame for climate change – will win it in the end, especially when the world food crisis will reach its highest point during the latter half of the nexr decade due to the droughts in the north of America and Europe.
Their aim is a world government
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/16/claim-we-need-planetary-sovereignty-to-address-the-climate-crisis/

Arild
January 31, 2019 7:22 am

With apologies to Pink Floyd and their fans “Comfortably Dumb”

Jim Gorman
January 31, 2019 7:37 am

He has no clue about agriculture and various varieties of corn, wheat, sorghum, etc. I doubt he can tell you that as global temps get higher, what changes, night time lows or daytime highs. That can make a HUGE difference in growing seasons.

Likewise, does he really think CAGW is going to occur in the next five years? How long would it take to expand the interstate highway to carry the new products? If the temps increase 2 degrees in the next 50 years I suspect we would have plenty of time build the required infrastructure and probably new grain varieties so we wouldn’t need the infrastructure.

Randle Dewees
January 31, 2019 7:40 am

You Canadians are so polite, you won’t come out and directly call him what he is; Nye is an idiot, pure and simple, an idiot.

Robert W Turner
January 31, 2019 7:40 am

For the 2020 election the Republicans should put no one on stage and just allow the democrats debate among themselves. The Republican slogan could be, “Our candidate is not one of these people”.

January 31, 2019 7:41 am

did you guys already saw this video?

Admad
Reply to  henryp
February 1, 2019 12:45 am

Not seen this before. Thank you 🙂

Alan Tomalty
January 31, 2019 7:54 am

Would someone please tell Bill Nye that last night, in parts of Canada it was -46C. Plants don’t grow in those temperatures.

leitmotif
January 31, 2019 8:05 am

US Children just aren’t going to know what a vegetable is.

NancyG
Reply to  leitmotif
January 31, 2019 8:59 am

Most already don’t know what a vegetable is. Sauce on pizza is a vegetable to them. I like buying frozen vegetables and have noticed that section of the grocery store shrink over the years. It’s been taken over by junk food, and vegetables with sauces and/or pastas.

As for Nye, I’m curious as to why he thinks the US should worry about feeding the world if what he claims will happen ever did come true. At that point the US would be facing famine, screw the rest of the world, feed your own first.

John Endicott
Reply to  leitmotif
January 31, 2019 9:17 am

Considering the crap some of the more obese kids currently consume (instead of a healthy balanced & nutritious diet), I’d say some of them already don’t know what a vegetable is.

Joel Snider
January 31, 2019 9:11 am

How much education does it take to get THIS stupid?

Joel O'Bryan
January 31, 2019 9:13 am

“Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been “hoodwinked” into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.”

Wow, that statement is so ignorantly false!! I can’t even begin to describe the levels of abject lying Bill Nye is making in that statement. I suppose it is his way to understand why rural America is mostly Red America, apparently been “hoodwinked” from his bigoted view.

Maybe he should wonder where his food comes from? Maybe he should actually visit farming operations across America and see how food is actually grown, using machines that use lots of diesel, propane, and gas. And using modern ammonium-based fertilizers made from natural gas. The man is so ignorant and a major league liar. It really is breathtaking. But then I suppose having him on Chris Matthews feeds the utterly ignorant audience that watches his show.

Bill Nye, The Big Lie Guy.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 31, 2019 11:24 am

The Millennials that I work with tell me that Bill Nye was their Carl Sagan.

ResourceGuy
January 31, 2019 9:19 am

The nit wit guy….for hire

Davis
January 31, 2019 9:39 am

Canada no longer has infrastructure, roads, or railways? (we have railWAYS, you have railROADS…..)

I had better get the red river cart hooked up, wife has to go to work.

By the way -40 this morning, -43 yesterday morning, NOT including wind chill.

Davis
January 31, 2019 9:41 am

Years ago a Canadian Prime Minister was asked about Canada’s best farmland being turned into suburbs. His reply was Canada would just become a net IMPORTER of food.

Windsong
January 31, 2019 9:47 am

Bill Nye, the TV scientist, proved the limited capabilities of carbon dioxide on the Seattle sketch comedy show, “Almost Live.” Now, he thinks it is a magical component of the atmosphere, capable of doing just about anything. (Bill Nye – Almost Live 1990)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QwCVBENHM

Jim Whelan
January 31, 2019 9:56 am

In think Canad already has roads and railroads and airports. In any case, here’s a wild idea. If you need more roads or railroads, or airports because you need to transport more goods, then build them!

I’m sure Bill Nye, the “science” guy, thinks roads and railroads and airports have been here since the Earth was formed and we have to make do with what we have. But isn’t that some sort of denial?

Ferdberple
January 31, 2019 10:20 am

Nye displays an ignorance about Canada that Americans are famous for.

To set the record straight: In Canada we grow different crops than the US because our climate is colder. For 3 seasons we grow ice, and in summer we grow flies and mosquitoes. When conditions are favorable we can get a pretty good crop of rocks popping up due to frost heave.

All our agricultural production takes place within sight of the US border so we can get our crops to market. Our road, railway and airport is filled to overflowing with American celebrities moving to Canada to escape Trump Derangement Syndrome.

The Trudeau government plans to add an extra lane to our road to handle the legal weed production. Luckily spraying the illegal weed with red tape has killed the legal market, leaving surplus capacity to transport 3 barrels of Alberta oil.

Without the Great Wall of Ice along Canada’s Arctic frontier, the US would have been overrun by Russians posting on Facebook and Twitter during the War of 1812.

[Thanks for the laugh. Excellent! -mod]

Non Nomen
Reply to  Ferdberple
January 31, 2019 11:00 am

I once learned that the Canadians harvest crushed ice in mid-winter (i.e. 364 days annually) to be well prepared for their one day summer. They were said to put it into their longdrinks for which they import fruits worth $1 bn from Fla. just for that special day. Do they really call it Boozeau-Day?

Not Chicken Little
January 31, 2019 10:26 am

Is it any wonder that thinking laymen do not trust the pronouncements of “science” people like Bill Nye? And we ALL should be skeptical, scientists especially now more than ever – when there is so much nonsense being spouted about “global warming” or “climate change” or whatever they call it – it is just WEATHER and NATURAL VARIABILITY although I do realize we’ve been warming for 10-12,000 years, and the more than mile-thick glaciers melted and made the sea levels rise over 400 feet or so – and the oceans continue to rise even though Obama promised he’d stop them, something less than 1/8″ per year or about 1′ per century with no signs of acceleration…

What computer model is there that accurately reflects this warming occurring since about 10,000 years ago? And that shows the many ups and downs that occurred since then some lasting for several centuries? Why do so many supposedly smart people place so much faith in computer models to begin with, especially when they don’t match reality? Inquiring minds want to know…

H.R.
January 31, 2019 10:40 am

If Canadians hold true to form, the US invaders will receive a polite reception.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  H.R.
January 31, 2019 11:19 am

I wouldn’t recommend invading through Cape Breton (technically Nova Scotia, but as Capers say, Nova Scotia is an island off the coast of Cape Breton…): they will be taken into the kitchen, fed oat cakes and tea until they burst, then subjected to hours of fiddle music until they head back to the US…

Ferdberple
Reply to  Caligula Jones
January 31, 2019 11:44 am

Cape Breton fiddle music was banned as a weapon of mass destruction under the terms of the Geneva Convention of 1949.

Having already laid waste to large sections of the Canadian Maritimes, it is unlikely the region will be habitual again for tens of thousands of years.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Ferdberple
January 31, 2019 12:44 pm

Actually, I think that was Cape Breton Gaelic.

Although, compared to Welsh Gaelic, its almost tolerable. You could tame a small desert with the amount of spit you need for Welsh…

MarkW
January 31, 2019 11:10 am

There’s at least a 20 degree difference between the southern border and the northern border.
Yet a 2 or 3 degree change is going to make growing crops impossible?
Does this charlatan ever stop to think about what he is being paid to say?
As to the economic damage going to renewables cause, that has already been documented.

Frantxi
January 31, 2019 11:21 am

Bill Nye is a true science advocate you morons !
His remarks in a period like this is a true wake up call to skepticism !

/sarc for the first sentence, love you guys

D Anderson
January 31, 2019 12:13 pm

Windchill is bunk unless you are running around outside in your birthday suit.

Menicholas
Reply to  D Anderson
January 31, 2019 3:14 pm

What?
Do you also think that humidity has nothing to do with how warm or cold you feel when outside at some particular temperature?
I mean really now…how can you claim that wind chill is bunk?
Try this: Go somewhere where it is 20 below zero with no wind, and you have just enough clothing on to be comfortable.
Then go somewhere it is the same temp but with 40 mph wind in that same clothing.
I can tell you spend every little time outside in cold weather, if any at all.
If you have ever actually worked outside, or spent entire days out of doors over any period of time when it was chilly or cold, you know very well that wind has a huge effect on how well your body retains heat. This is just as true in hot weather.
90 degrees with 75 dewpoint is brain meltingly hot if there is no wind at all, especially if the sun is out and the angle is high. Same conditions with a stiff breeze is no where close to as uncomfortable.
70 degrees with low humidity, no wind? You can wear shorts and not be cold.
70 degrees low humidity and very windy? You are gonna feel cold in shorts, unless maybe if you are from Minnesota.
Why make such an obviously untrue assertion?

Menicholas
Reply to  D Anderson
January 31, 2019 3:25 pm

They sell a lot of fans every year, and every purchase proves that people feel cooler when the air is moving vs. when it is still. And the faster it moves the greater the effect.
A ceiling fan is known to allow Air conditioning to be set 3-5 degrees warmer with no loss in comfort.
The colder it is, the more effect wind speed has.

ResourceGuy
January 31, 2019 12:38 pm

This prediction is worth one millionth of one Venezuelan Bolivar.

amirlach
January 31, 2019 1:35 pm

“What would nominally be Canada?” Them sound like fighting words you Bow Tie wearing gimp…

““We don’t have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world,” Nye warned…

No YOU sure don’t, but we DO… You uninformed ignoramus.

Besides, the Prairies might be an Independent Republic in the near future as Anti-Socialist, Anti-Progressive, Anti-Moron, sentiments keep rising. We stoke our fires of industry with used Bow Ties… Better watch out Billy Boy.

kcrucible
January 31, 2019 1:35 pm

“Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been “hoodwinked” into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.

“I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they’ve been hoodwinked,” Nye said. “They’ve been led astray by this group of like-minded people who feel that the economic effects of getting away from fossil fuels are going to be catastrophic, but that is just simply not true.””

You know, because it’s just a matter of time before solar-powered Tractors and other farming equipment are ready to do the hard work of farming.

Chris Norman
January 31, 2019 1:40 pm

Canada suffered large crop loss and low quality results due to cold in 2018. And as the planet cools its going to get worse. You can find media reports of this at iceagenow, there were articles and I particularly recall pictures of combine harvesters operating in snow covered fields. Also if my memory is correct the potato crop was severely damaged.

Robber
January 31, 2019 2:13 pm

Hmm, average summer temperature in Kansas City is about 25C, average in Toronto about 23C. But perhaps bedazzling Bill meant Winnipeg, average 20C. Of course you also need some warming in those winters from -10C. He reportedly flies between residences in LA and NY, so presumably LA is getting far too hot.

Donald Kasper
January 31, 2019 2:14 pm

If it keeps getting any warmer like this, we are going to erect a big, beautiful wall on our northern border to keep those Canadian heathens out. We will be migrating to Mexico to farm.

iRash
January 31, 2019 2:15 pm

Bill Nye’s idiocy amounts to nothing. If America needs to buy food from Canada, ok. Canada knows how to build roads and railroads too.

Tommyboy
January 31, 2019 2:21 pm

I guess you could move to Canada.
Just planting a week or two earlier seems easier.

ResourceGuy
January 31, 2019 2:45 pm

The rate of useless predictions being issued should be a major component of any index measure of advocacy/lobbyist policy moves. This would be similar to the VIX index of risk in financial markets, but in this case it’s more a measure of upwellings of stupidity ahead of a major policy mistake.

J Graham
January 31, 2019 2:50 pm

Slick Billy Nye is the “Dr. OZ” of atmospheric science. Nothing but hype & fraud, all the time making money from a brain numb populace.

Paul Penrose
January 31, 2019 2:50 pm

Maybe at some point Bill Nye knew something about science, but he has put all of that aside to pursue a career in entertainment. He is no more credible on scientific issues than Al Gore or Whoopie Goldberg. Too bad his acting isn’t very good either; played the father of the head geek on “Blind Spot” (can’t remember the character’s name). Not surprisingly the show really went downhill not long after that and I stopped watching it.

Gbees
January 31, 2019 4:30 pm

The end is Nye … what a nutcase.

Snarling Dolphin
January 31, 2019 5:44 pm

Yep. Just like Mexico and Central America grow theirs in the US. That’s why their people have to come here; to get their food. Thank you Science Guy! For being so so smart! And generous with your smartness. We owe you bigly.

crosspatch
January 31, 2019 6:37 pm

Bill Nye should have a talk with the California food growers that are leasing land in Mexico and moving operations there because they can get water and labor.

Robert of Texas
January 31, 2019 7:36 pm

Bill Nye… A really sad ending to someone that could have done much to influence young people over real science. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he doesn’t understand real science, he just repeats what he has read. I briefly met him once – he seemed to be in a hurry and not very polite – I get it, things to do, places to be.

If only he could have put the necessity of understanding a theory ahead of his need for attention, then he might have been more than a sad footnote in history.

Too bad, what a waste.

David Addams
January 31, 2019 8:43 pm

Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been “hoodwinked” into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.

“I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they’ve been hoodwinked,” Nye said. “They’ve been led astray by this group of like-minded people who feel that the economic effects of getting away from fossil fuels are going to be catastrophic, but that is just simply not true.”

He says this after people living in Minnesota just got an object lesson on the problems of relying on anything OTHER than fossil fuels. (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/why-green-energy-is-futile-in-one-lesson.php?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=sw&utm_campaign=sw)

The wind basically wasn’t blowing anywhere (not just Minnesota) and there wasn’t enough Natural Gas available to produce electricity and heat people’s homes there. People would have had an even harder time staying warm if coal wasn’t supplying 45% of the electricity.

Forget harming the economy.

Getting rid of fossil fuels would make it impossible for people in some states to stay warm during winter.
Forget harming the economy.

Ian Macdonald
February 1, 2019 12:44 am

What got me was when Nye was asked what he thought about LENR and replied about Tokamaks. For someone who claims to be a ‘science guy’ that was a real clanger.

If he is interested in climate and energy, surely he would have studied these subjects?

Julian
February 1, 2019 3:27 am

I wonder where Dr Zachary Smith went.

beng135
Reply to  Julian
February 1, 2019 6:49 am

He floated off into space with the floating green woman that ate neutronium.

beng135
February 1, 2019 6:47 am

Bill Nye’s Latest Climate Warning: The US Will Have To Grow Its Food In Canada

But we’ll be OK, since Mexico and Central America will grow their food in the US….. 🙂

Tom Schaefer
February 1, 2019 7:19 am

Sorry about being late to comment. Does he even spend a second to see if the data agrees with his latest pronouncement?
So check this out (from a source reputable with globalists even): https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.PRD.CREL.MT

No go into the by country charts. Isn’t it striking that some of the fastest growing producers are closer to the equator that the arctic? If things warm up a bit, and we get a doubling of CO2, we should see an explosion of food production, both in the US and Canada.

Svend Ferdinandsen
February 3, 2019 1:34 pm

Why not move to Antarctica. The icecaps are in full disintegration and collapsing, so in a few years there will be a lot of farmland available.
Or did i misunderstand what collapse means?

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Svend Ferdinandsen
February 4, 2019 6:21 am

Yes, but penquins have sovereignty there.

You’d have to prove yourself to be at least 1/1024th penquin, or else its stealing.

wadelightly
February 5, 2019 1:25 pm

‘Bill Nye is a LIAR. He is despicable.

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