DOOM! “…the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change” says Ocasio-Cortez

From the “anything goes when the media regurgitates every word you say” department comes this latest insanity from a woman who isn’t making any points among thinking people. Of course, we’ve heard these sorts of doomsday forecasts before, notably from doomster Al Gore who also said we have 12 years.

Excerpt transcript and video follows.

OCASIO-CORTEZ:

“And I think the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people, in gen z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change. You’re biggest issue, your biggest issue is how are going to pay for it? — and like this is the war, this is our world war II.

And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year, how are we saying let’s take it easy when the end person died from our cruel and unjust criminal justice system? How are we saying take it easy, the America that we’re living in today is dystopian with people sleeping in their cars so they can work a second job without healthcare and we’re told to settle down. It’s a fundamental separation between that fierce urgency of now, the why we can’t wait that King spoke of.

That at some point this chronic reality do reach a breaking point and I think for our generation it reached that, I wished I didn’t have to be doing every post, but sometimes I just feel like people aren’t being held accountable. Until, we start pitching in and holding people accountable, I’m just gonna let them have it.”

Source: https://grabien.com/story.php?id=218167

Yeah, whatever.

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Tom Halla
January 21, 2019 8:15 pm

AOC somehow reminds me of the Frank Zappa cut “Valley Girl”. She could be doing a consciously planned game on the public, but keeping up the parody will be difficult.

Mike Bryant
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 22, 2019 3:24 am

From comments on Breitbart… “Nostrodumbass” that says it all in one word.

Greg
Reply to  Mike Bryant
January 22, 2019 3:45 am

I listened to here and I’m like: occasional cortex ? Nah, I doubt it.

I doubt she could cite one climate fact and back it up with data.

Great dances though.

Trebla
Reply to  Greg
January 22, 2019 4:02 am

Like why does she say like so much. It’s like she like really likes that word,

Bryan A
Reply to  Trebla
January 23, 2019 10:13 am

And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year

News flash…
in the USA, 2.7m people died in 2016 and 2.8m in 2017. Statistically it should be at or near 3m in 2018 so which 0.1% is the 3000 she is referring to?

Sara
Reply to  Greg
January 22, 2019 5:25 am

Like, it’s like, her eddication in the like, public schools or something. As if….

Like, she’s like kind of like, like a champagne bottle, like, if you like pop the cork, she’ll like foam over, but if you like leave the like cork out of the like bottle, it like goes like flat.

Writing that made my sinuses hurt. I need a pack of tissues now.

dennisambler
Reply to  Sara
January 23, 2019 2:28 am

So, this is the new language…so, everybody is usin’ it.

griff
Reply to  Mike Bryant
January 22, 2019 6:34 am

Breitbart is a censored echo chamber for the party line…

icisil
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 6:45 am

Don’t know, but probably so, unfortunately. Everyone seems to have their political agendas that short circuit rational discussion.

Bryan A
Reply to  icisil
January 23, 2019 10:15 am

Dems/Big Greens have their Echo Chambers as well
Guardian
WaPo
NYT
Etc…

Phoenix44
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 7:00 am

So it’s become part of the mainstream media then?

Weird, because it often says the opposite of what pretty much the entire MSM pumps out for the Groupthink Braindead, scarfed to death of having a different thought about anything.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 7:22 am

Like most leftists, griff only complains about censorship when the other side does it.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 11:20 am

Oh? Got an example? No?? I thought not.

Javert Chip
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
January 22, 2019 4:11 pm

Ok; how about the wacko-George Mason-professor and some attorney generals discussed using RICO on climate skeptics?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
January 23, 2019 1:52 pm

Sorry, my reply was to griff.

The Cob
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 11:20 am

I suppose you oughta know what it’s like to outsource your mind to an echo chamber to tow the party line.

MarkW
Reply to  The Cob
January 22, 2019 12:04 pm

“toe the party line”

Joel Snider
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 12:09 pm

You mean as opposed to Yahoo? Google? Twitter? Facebook? The AP? Pretty much every friggin’ mainstream outlet?

And Grift complains about Breitbart – most likely because he got slapped there.

Nashville
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 7:19 pm

Interesting, I see opposing views all the time there.
What did you do to get banned?
My guess, not banned, just afraid to post.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Mike Bryant
January 22, 2019 8:48 am

And this woman is the new darling of the left.

Any predictions on what she’ll say in 12 years, when we’re all still here?

Don Holland
Reply to  Joel Snider
January 22, 2019 12:12 pm

An announcement of her run for president? Because she had to… Like wait for the like age limit thing we because like something called the Constipation or like something…
(Gee that DOES hurt)

Joel Snider
Reply to  Don Holland
January 22, 2019 1:18 pm

Totally.

Reply to  Don Holland
January 22, 2019 3:34 pm

Per her contemporary (OBeto), constipation is an outdated concept, so anybody should be able to run ….

Neo
Reply to  Mike Bryant
January 22, 2019 8:58 am

AOC has single-handedly put an end to dumb blonde jokes

Reply to  Neo
January 22, 2019 12:12 pm

LOL !

Nashville
Reply to  Neo
January 22, 2019 7:15 pm

LOL
Can I use that?

Reply to  Mike Bryant
January 22, 2019 10:02 am

Fair go though, she’s undeniably, like, got a few ‘roos loose in, like, the top paddock and we’re all, like, “what-evah” but there are people, who, like, voted for occasional cortex, aka nostradumbarse.
Quoting Obi-Wan Kenobi from the original Star Wars; “Who’s the bigger fool, the fool or the fool who follows (her)?”
Maybe I’m being optimistic but perhaps one term of Occassional Cortex is, like, the proverbial cold shower that the New York electorate, like, needs?
…but then as George Carlin eloquently put it; “think of how stupid the average person is, and then remember that half the people are stupider than that!”

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Erny72
January 22, 2019 11:19 am

Her constituency will elect anything that occupies the Democrat line in the election booth. She has lifetime tenure if she wants it.

She will only leave the scene when:
1. She gets tired of it. Right, just like “Stretch” Pelosi.
2. She exceeds her allotted “threescore and ten” and shuffles off this mortal coil.
3. Variation on “2.”, she walks in front of a moving vehicle. We should be so lucky.

Bryan A
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
January 23, 2019 2:35 pm

she’s at three score and 18 now (Surpassing Ted Kennedy when he clocked out) and fastly approaching 4 score

icisil
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 22, 2019 5:35 am

She reminds me of Proverbs 11:22. The word typically translated discretion there means judgment, i.e., good sense.

icisil
Reply to  icisil
January 22, 2019 5:52 am
Big T
Reply to  icisil
January 22, 2019 7:25 am

“beautiful” is quite a stretch, like, you know?

2hotel9
Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 7:34 am

I keep hearing how beautiful she is, sorry, if I ran into her in a club or bar I would have nothing to do with her, she has the crazy eyes going on. And if you listen to her for a few minutes it is confirmed. Contaminated water often has pretty colors in it, does not mean I am going to drink it.

icisil
Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 7:57 am

Every person has their own perception of beauty. I’ve known guys who like big women, and I’ve known guys who like them trim. I like ’em trim. I think she’s beautiful, and I think most guys would give their left nut (so to speak) to have a woman that attractive. Trust me. That’s 99% of her appeal.

Toto
Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 9:06 am

There are two typical photos of her.
1. The one with the Big Eyes. There was a movie called Big Eyes, about the artist who painted waifs and others with Big Eyes. The puppy eyes look. I’m guessing that this is the one which some call beautiful.
2. The other one, when she opens her mouth and shows her vampire teeth, surrounded by blood red lips. And looks emancipated. Starving vampires are bad enough, but then she speaks!!!

Looks are superficial, and what she says is superficial.

Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 10:18 am

Beautiful? well beauty is in the eye of the beer holder and I’d need to neck an awful lot of beers before I could intoxicate myself sufficiently to tolerate the stream of insufferable bovine excreta pouring from her mouth and get close enough to contemplate any skin deep aesthetic qualities.
If one chose to be charitable, one could concede that she’s not entirely got the look of the north end of a south-bound cow, but ‘beauty’ isn’t a superlative that comes rapidly to mind as long as her lips are moving and exposing the crap inside her head.

Frantxi
Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 10:44 am

Erny, bovine excreta is actually quite a wonderful substance. Please don’t compare her ideas to it. Her ideas are more like cadmium in drinking water.

2hotel9
Reply to  Frantxi
January 22, 2019 3:15 pm

+1000!!!!!!!!

Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 1:08 pm

And looks emancipated.

I guess you mean emaciated. She’s probably emancipated too with her Congress salary.

Wrusssr
Reply to  Big T
January 22, 2019 3:50 pm

“. . . once she was human, as human as you and I.”

Bryan A
Reply to  Big T
January 23, 2019 2:38 pm

then she registered democrat and ran for office

MarkW
Reply to  icisil
January 22, 2019 7:24 am

There’s also a quote, attributed to a number of people:

Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2019 8:00 am

There is an internet meme floating about that depicts AOC with the caption:
“Single Handedly Redefining Dumb Blond Jokes Everywhere”

Federico Bär
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2019 8:45 am

Isn’t this saying reversible?
Similar to the conversation in a cartoon:
– It’s better to have ten birds on the tree than one in your hand.
– I think you have that backwards, mate.
– Have you ever held a bird in your hand?
– No.
– Then shut up!

I was a bit surprised to see this nonsense posted, and I read it only because apparently Anthony Watts did not see it as a loss of time. Perhaps some comments will make it worth the effort. For instance, the Pentagon announcement mentioned below, a much worse menace – although the forecast covered 20 (twenty) years!
.-

MarkW
Reply to  Federico Bär
January 22, 2019 12:07 pm

Some people sure do get cranky when their idols are shown to have feet of clay.

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2019 2:37 pm

But what happens when a whole bunch of OTHER idiots gather and start bobbling their heads?

Toto
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 22, 2019 8:55 am

“but keeping up the parody will be difficult”

Poe’s Law —
“Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious”
“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a [whatever] in such a way that someone won’t mistake for the genuine article”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Jim Whelan
Reply to  Toto
January 22, 2019 9:36 am

Being an old-timer who actually wrote web pages with a text editor and HTML, I favor the use of “”

GW
January 21, 2019 8:18 pm

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. — Pitt the Younger, 1783.

Seems apropos.

Tim
Reply to  GW
January 22, 2019 1:23 am

Shame on your greed, shame on your wicked schemes
I’ll say this, I don’t give a damn about your dreams.

Bob Dylan – Thunder on 5he mountain

Robertvd
Reply to  GW
January 22, 2019 7:13 am

If CO2 really is the problem why would you want it in 1783 Little Ice Age levels? What was so great about that period? Skating on the Thames?

John the Econ
January 21, 2019 8:23 pm

I remember being told this long before she was even born. And yet we somehow managed to survive long enough for her to get into Congress.

R Shearer
Reply to  John the Econ
January 21, 2019 8:48 pm

Besides, her 100% renewables by 2035 is 4 years too late.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  R Shearer
January 22, 2019 3:17 pm

“Besides, her 100% renewables by 2035 is 4 years too late.”

Not to mention that it’s completely unrealistic. We aren’t going to give up our powerplants, Rep. Ocasio.

Reply to  John the Econ
January 22, 2019 1:17 am

John the Econ

It’s worse than even she thinks though. We only have a year left according to the Pentagon, no less.

Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
· Britain will be ‘Siberian’ in less than 20 years
· Threat to the world is greater than terrorism

Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..

A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

I swear it’s true cos it was published in the Guardian Sun 22 Feb 2004 01.33 GMT First published on Sun 22 Feb 2004 01.33 GMT.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE YEAR LEFT TO LIVE

https://tinyurl.com/ybqezeom

Chris Wright
Reply to  HotScot
January 22, 2019 3:14 am

So Britain will have a Siberian climate by 2020? That’s next year.
Still, I must admit it’s been quite chilly the last few days…
And European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas next year? Thank goodness for Brexit!
Chris

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Chris Wright
January 22, 2019 10:17 am

A Siberian climate coinciding with the end of snow…

Neo
Reply to  HotScot
January 22, 2019 9:02 am

It must be true because it was in the newspaper /sarc

markl
January 21, 2019 8:25 pm

If this is what the Socialists are pitching in America we are safe.

MarkW
Reply to  markl
January 22, 2019 7:26 am

Don’t be so sure, apparently 74% of Democrats would vote for her for President.

https://www.axios.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-beto-o-rourke-democrats-d69595cc-ea49-41b5-b521-dce94dc2790f.html

John G
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2019 8:29 am

By Democrats she is viewed 6 points more favorably than Chuck Schumer and 5 points less favorably than Nancy Pelosi. That is, she is in a Democrat sweet spot of favorability (assuming Chuck and Nancy are viewed favorably). Yet the wider American public views her as a bit of a moron (I know I do). This makes me feel better about Trump’s chances for a second term.

Robertvd
Reply to  John G
January 22, 2019 8:49 am

Democrats( socialists) can NEVER be trusted. To achieve their agenda the end justifies. the means.

Lies of the Left

The Peter Schiff Show Podcast – Episode 437
https://youtu.be/LRLzhb4Pvn4

David
January 21, 2019 8:26 pm

If what she says about the world ending is true (or if she really believes it), why is she worried about 3,000 people dying, the criminal justice system or people sleeping in cars? Surely if we were dealing with the end of the world within 12 years, she’d be advocating full survival mode and advocating things like the United States committing to a policy of unilateral carbon reduction by nuking every nation into the stone age that it regards as unfit to survive.

If you think that it’s the end of the world, act like it.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  David
January 21, 2019 9:02 pm

Thank God she’s a Politian, and not an Engineer.

Rod Evans
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 22, 2019 2:30 am

With her woolly thinking and lack of knowledge, it is clear why she chose politics rather than a serious subject like engineering.
Do we know if she has any understanding about science matters at all?

Dave Ward
Reply to  Rod Evans
January 22, 2019 3:09 am

She certainly doesn’t have much understanding of how to use the English language!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Dave Ward
January 22, 2019 6:25 am

“She certainly doesn’t have much understanding of how to use the English language!”

Like, totally!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rod Evans
January 22, 2019 5:07 am

“her woolly thinking”

That’s a good description. Ocasio thinks she is a little bit smarter than she really is. She makes up for her lack of factual knowledge by being sure of herself, which gives some people the impression that she is knowledgeable. Being sure of oneself doesn’t change the facts.

OweninGA
Reply to  Rod Evans
January 22, 2019 10:00 am

Her degree is in International Relations and Economics from Boston University. Doesn’t say much for their program that she can’t identify the major economic drivers of international affairs. Saw her in an interview and she has absolutely none of the facts of those fields at her easy grasp.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 22, 2019 8:05 am

If she were an engineer she would be far too intelligent to utter such inanities.

Ricardo
Reply to  David
January 21, 2019 10:17 pm

That is worthy of double-plus 1

RLu
Reply to  David
January 21, 2019 11:49 pm

“if you think CACA is real, act like it.”

– We don’t have time for government shutdowns. Just build the stupid wall and get on with it.
– It is more energy efficient to live in Mexico than in the US, anyway. No heating and shorter distances. So it’s better for the climate if they stay there.
– LGBTPQRST? I don’t care what you do in your own bedroom, as long as it harms non. Just don’t bother me with it.
– Welfare? We have a bicycle taxi in need of a driver. A lot better for the climate and you can put your spawn in the front basket until it is old enough for school.
– Universal healthcare? Sure, but we will decide if that treatment is cost effective. Out of a job or just old? Good luck! The world is going to end, we have no time for your snivels and aches.
– NY and Chicago get too cold in winter. We need to abandon those cities and disperse the population to a mild climate. Costa Rica is nice, this time of year.
– If your job is not related to agriculture or mining, why are you living in snow country? Time to move!

Steve O
Reply to  RLu
January 22, 2019 4:18 am

We will forever be in that Goldilocks Zone where we will be forever failing to do enough. Things won’t be so serious that we’ll need to build nuclear power plants, but we will need more wind turbines. Things will be serious enough that have to raise taxes, but we can still afford to give money to poor countries in hot climates (who will spend it electricity and air conditioners). And we’ll need MORE turbines net year because last year nobody met whatever their commitments were.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Steve O
January 22, 2019 6:27 am

“who will spend it electricity and air conditioners”

No, their corrupt leaders will spend it on their own worldly desires.

Joe Ebeni
Reply to  Steve O
January 22, 2019 6:40 am

And we’ll need MORE turbines net year because last year nobody met whatever their commitments were.”

and a corollary: “We’ll need MORE turbines and solar panels because Steyer told me so.”

Ryan Otte
Reply to  RLu
January 22, 2019 9:24 pm

Are these extreme measures something you and others would be willing to follow? You are suggesting action items that would likely get shot down right away.

Steve O
Reply to  David
January 22, 2019 4:12 am

If advocates of radical action really believed the nonsense they are spewing about the immediate urgency, why are they not calling for an end to large scale wind and solar power in favor of nuclear power plants?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Steve O
January 22, 2019 5:11 am

Yeah, why aren’t they clamoring for China and India to stop burning coal if they are so worried about the CO2 Doomsday coming in 12 years?

griff
Reply to  Steve O
January 22, 2019 6:36 am

The astonishing cost of nuclear and the time it takes to build it? See UK’s Hinkley Point and all similar EDF reactor designs.

Then there’s the never provided for massive cost of decommissioning (again, see EDF and French nuclear industry).

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 7:21 am

How long does it take to clear cut 50 forests in North America for pellets to burn in UK boilers?

MarkW
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 7:29 am

Leftists do everything in their power to make nuclear power costly and time consuming to build.
Then they proclaim that the reason we should ignore nuclear power is because it’s too costly and time consuming.

If liberals didn’t have hypocrisy, they wouldn’t have anything.

Al Miller
Reply to  griff
January 22, 2019 8:48 am

Oh Griff, what a cock of crap! If people really believed CO2 was the control the ONLY answer currently feasible is nuclear. Period. This is proof positive beyond any shadow of a doubt that AGW is political and not scientific! What cost for the lunacy of windmills torturing our world??

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
January 23, 2019 4:28 am

Scaremongers like Griff are the reason nuclear power is so expensive.

mike macray
Reply to  griff
January 25, 2019 7:03 am

“….See UK’s Hinkley Point and all similar EDF reactor designs…..again, see EDF and French nuclear industry)…”
Griff:
Instead of parroting party lines try thinking for yourself for a change…. it might earn you some credibility!
Cheers
Mike

2hotel9
Reply to  mike macray
January 25, 2019 3:03 pm

Mike? You have made a fundamental error, you “assume” griffie “thinks”. Please refrain from doing so again. Ever. It simply regurgitates the sh*t it is fed by it’s handlers. They don’t even trust it to cut&paste, instead feeding it crap directly. Rather sad, actually. It’s mommy is so ashamed.

Phoenix44
Reply to  Steve O
January 22, 2019 7:05 am

They do believe the nonsense, they just have no interest in actually making sure proper stuff is done. It’s like the plastics idiocy: we can show that the problem is recycling (over 50% of plastics in the ocean come from a handful of rivers in Asia and Africa) and abandoned fishing gear, but still we ban straws and single-use bags in favour of things that harm the environment more.

These children don’t want to actually think and analyse and take tough decisions, they want to be bright and shiny and hopey and wokey. It’s all about them, not the problem.

Reply to  David
January 22, 2019 3:01 pm

“If you think that it’s the end of the world, act like it.”

You mean, like AOC should demand the world build a big rocket to take 1,000 selected humans to “sister Earth” . . . you know, the carbon copy of Earth (but without humans) that orbits always on the opposite side of the Sun from Earth prime, so that most scientists—and especially astronomers—have not yet discovered that it exists?

Let’s go for it! Time is critical.

DMA
January 21, 2019 8:27 pm

I wrote this as a letter to the editor but my paper won’t print it.

“We are fighting for the future of the planet”
Senator Bernie Sanders at a recent Climate Change Town Hall Meeting

The urge to fight climate change is being raised to a fever pitch in Washington. The notion presumes that we have caused some adverse changes to the earth’s climate systems and can remove or mitigate the unwanted changes. Here are some valid questions that must be answered for new climate change fighting policies to be effective either financially of environmentally:
1)What are the unwanted aspects of our climates that we have caused and wish to remove?
2)What did we do to cause these conditions and can we undo what we did?
3)If we can, what will it cost to undo them and will other things be effected by the new policy to accomplish that?
4)What is the value of removing the unwanted climate conditions? (Compare answers 3 and 4)
5)How will we know if our climate fighting policy is successful?
6)Who has the authority or ability to enact and enforce the policy devised in the answers to question 2 and5?
7)Who has the right to disagree with any of the answers to questions 1-5 and oppose the winner of #6?
This is a rational list of questions that any politician desiring to fight climate change should closely consider on the way to the battle. Further, it is a reasonable set of questions for which any citizen faced with an expensive and disruptive policy should demand answers.

I don’t this lay has even tried to address these questions.

Highflight56433
January 21, 2019 8:29 pm

The real question is what kind of mindset votes for this Occasional Cortex. The left wants us all dead!… but insist on forced flu shots and mandatory health care…but want the guns confiscated except for the ones the government can use on us but….but….want to save us from the climate but …Please! someone develop a vaccine for the left’s hypocrisy disease. lol

January 21, 2019 8:35 pm

And yet the on-going, partial US government shutdown (which is an existential crisis if it’s your paycheck foregone now for +31 days), Miss AOC is fully committed to resisting Trump. Yet she does not consider what her support of Ms Pelosi’s raging TDS means for the future of her party or its pursuit of power. The tide is turning against Democrats. And they don’t see it coming. They never see it coming until it has washed past them.

Ms AOC is demonstrably a willfully un-informed, most ignorant example of what the Millennials offer. She has zero critical thought. Despite a BA in economics, she has clearly demonstrated she does not understand even basic working economics of what she proposes. Even many Left talking head commentators have critically critiqued her lack of economic IQ.

And yet somehow Ms AOC knows about Climate Change and the destructive economics those behind it propose?

And it is her generation that will bear the brunt of harm of that stupidity in coming decades of lost prosperity if those fake Climate Change economic policies come to pass on the West’s economies. Her generation will ultimately have a special place in their hatred for her likes.

=====
My thoughts on this:
If you think about where today’s society places yesterday’s Vietnam War veterans and the hippies who spat upon them on their return in airports in the early 1970’s and today. Which is now revered? Which is forgotten or even scorned?
And Jane Fonda is still and always will be Hanoi Jane, the ATB.

So today, AOC is in her limelight. She is enjoying her own “Hanoi Jane” years. But make no mistake, she is a Useful Idiot for the Socialist-Marxists, if there ever was one, just like Jane.

And one day too she will be the Millenials’ own “ATB” when they realize what she represented.

R Shearer
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 21, 2019 8:46 pm

Following everything you say except for traitor. I suppose “democratic socialism” is antithetical to our representative government, but traitorous?

Reply to  R Shearer
January 21, 2019 8:57 pm

Do you not think Ms AOC wouldn’t also dutifully line-up a ZSU 2-57 AAA gunsight on a US military aircraft if she thought it was in the name of her Climate crusade?
Just as a young Hanoi Jane did in 1972. Young minds as hers are easily manipulated. It took 40 years for the original ATB to apologize to the Vietnam War veterans for her traitorous act.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 21, 2019 9:26 pm

As a personal note:
Almost 16 years later, I still remember coming back as young USAF Major in my military flight suit with helmet bag in hand, through the Philly Airport and then DFW airport in May 2002 after 5 months supporting Operations in Afghanistan. People randomly stopped me and thanked me. The USO operations at Rhein-Mein AB in German before my flight to Philly was amazing with the people there supporting troops coming and going to/from the AORs of the Persian Gulf and AFG.
Being away from the US for those months after 9/11, I had not really seen the transformation that occurred in the US after 9/11.
I was new young Captain in my Air Force Special Operations squadron in 1992 and I saw “Hanoi Jane ATB” target stickers in the urinals of the Men’s room. Then I realized that the older guys (O’s and E’s) from Vietnam era of Special Ops were still around in my squadron, retirement-ready hold-overs from an almost forgotten time.
Memories like that are hard to forget. Some should be, but some should not be.

But my experiencing that, I cannot imagine what it must have been like in 1972-1973 for our servicemen to return from Vietnam, a much more costly war for Americans, and then be spat upon.

So now think about the thousands of young hard working blue collar oil field workers today in Texas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Colorado, New Mexico. No doubt Ms AOC despises what they do to both support their families and provide this country with energy independence. She wants to put them in unemployment lines, just like coal miners in Kentucky, Ohio, and WVa.
All because of a trace gas.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 22, 2019 11:50 am

Joel

This is what these type of people do to memorials dedicated the the Courageous Pilots of Bomber Command in WW2.

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Full description including a similar violation of the memorial to Winston Churchill here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46953436

MarkW
Reply to  HotScot
January 22, 2019 3:20 pm

Leftists have only hatred for those who don’t worship as they do.
Heck, they have only hatred for those who worship as they do, but not fervently enough.

Ryan
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 22, 2019 9:30 pm

It isn’t about putting people in unemployment lines, but figuring out how to meet the science organization recommendations while keeping humans happy and successful.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 21, 2019 11:04 pm

“And yet the on-going, partial US government shutdown (which is an existential crisis if it’s your paycheck foregone now for +31 days)”

Today I noticed the bank with which I do business has 2 notices on its web site:
1) Any bank customer who is a furloughed federal employee with a loan from (this bank) need not make any payments until shutdown ends, and will not be penalized.
2) Any furloughed federal employee can have an interest free loan with no payments due during shutdown.

Pretty good deal for furloughed federal employees. Take out a loan for the amount of each missed paycheck, then when the back-pay comes pay off the loan. Voila – no missed pay at all. Just a nice paid vacation without actually taking any vacation days. They will still be available to take next summer when the weather is better.

SR

tty
Reply to  Steve Reddish
January 22, 2019 2:35 am

It will be less nice to those furloughed employees who actually work and who will have to catch up when the furlough ends.

Admittedly that might not be too many

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Steve Reddish
January 22, 2019 5:19 am

“) Any bank customer who is a furloughed federal employee with a loan from (this bank) need not make any payments until shutdown ends, and will not be penalized.
2) Any furloughed federal employee can have an interest free loan with no payments due during shutdown.”

There is a bank in our area that is offering something similar to furloughed federal empolyees. They said they would honor all bills submitted until the employees get paid.

Not Democrat, not Republican, but Human.

Phoenix44
Reply to  Steve Reddish
January 22, 2019 7:08 am

It is of course tough on the furloughed individuals, but what percentage of government employees have actually been missed?

dan no longer in CA
Reply to  Phoenix44
January 22, 2019 11:29 am

I was talking to an Air Traffic Controller last night. He is working a full schedule for no pay. He does expect to get pack pay at a later date.

R Shearer
January 21, 2019 8:38 pm

She’s not very good with numbers, or facts, or words or analogies. Welcome to chronic reality, WWII for millennials.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  R Shearer
January 21, 2019 9:05 pm

Yea, I really struggled to read the transcript. Much of it was like two different sentences joined together at random. Hearing it, it would make no sense at all.

Solsten
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 21, 2019 9:23 pm

She’s the left’s version of Sara Palin.

Reply to  Solsten
January 21, 2019 10:04 pm

Sorry, but I think Sarah Palin is much more intelligent that this whatever.

John Endicott
Reply to  Solsten
January 22, 2019 5:09 am

That’s very insulting to Palin. Say what you will of Ms. Palin, but at least she could make coherent sentences unlike the Bronx dancer.

MarkW
Reply to  Solsten
January 22, 2019 7:35 am

As always, the left defines stupid as anyone who fails to agree with them.

2hotel9
Reply to  Solsten
January 22, 2019 7:40 am

Really? Accusatory Occasional-Cortex took a major oil company to court and defeated them? When did that happen?

Annie
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Articulate and knowledgeable she is not, but AOC is being feted as if she is by certain sections of society. Heaven help us if that is the sort of ‘leadership’ being developed by modern ‘education’.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 22, 2019 8:25 am

I suspect that her disorganized thoughts spill out of here mouth much faster than they can be constructed.
Like all destructive storms she posses much energy, but none of it useful.
The next disaster to befall New York: Hurricane Alexandria. Beware the flooding from mental diarrhea.

Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2019 8:42 pm

Cute girl. Nice figure. Dumb as a box of rocks.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2019 8:54 pm

Isn’t that always the way it goes?…

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
January 21, 2019 9:25 pm

Sigh.:-(

Moose
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2019 9:44 pm

I always say: the lights are on, but nobody is home.

Reply to  Moose
January 22, 2019 1:33 pm

Or:
Her elevator doesn’t go all the way up?
She’s one can short of a six-pack?

Alex
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2019 10:06 pm

There’s a saying:
‘Don’t put your d*ck in crazy’

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Alex
January 22, 2019 5:39 am

How crass, Alex.

You know, kids read this website, too. Do you go into your child’s classroom and start talking like that? Have a little respect for the feelings of others.

John
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 22, 2019 8:36 am

+10

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 22, 2019 10:20 am

It would make for some hopefully influential sex ed.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2019 11:40 pm

Obviously, not diamonds.

Kristen
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2019 11:40 pm

a box of rocks is doing exactly what they are advertised as being capable of. she’s been marketed as being “smart”, but is anything but. the box of rocks is smarter than her.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 22, 2019 12:52 am

Please reflect. Rocks can tell us all sorts of useful things if we pay them some careful attention.
This verbally incomprehensible half-wit ignorant politico not so much.

John Endicott
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 22, 2019 12:45 pm

How insulting…. You owe a box of rocks a huge apology. 😉

Bemused Bill
January 21, 2019 8:43 pm

Ha ha ha, not much “fact mongering” in that bizarre little twerps mind space….plenty of space however. In NYC this is what passes for a leading candidate for elections…and is being considered amongst other brilliant candidates such as Pocahontas, Creepy Uncle Joe, Hillary mark 111, Opra, Red Bernie and probably Jim Carey et al from Hollyweird…. to run against Trump….in the Federal elections.
You guys have a very large number of morons in the US, learn to cheat, get organized and politic as much as they do, or you will lose everything. You will also need your own conservative search engines where no one is censored for having a conservative opinion and the past is not re-written etc why is no-one already doing that? They would become the worlds most wealthy person.

Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 21, 2019 9:49 pm

Fortunately, Representative Ocasio-Cortez is not old enough to run for President in 2020. That pesky Constitution gets in the way again.

Kevin Lohse
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
January 21, 2019 11:00 pm

Nothing the 9th circuit can’t handle.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
January 21, 2019 11:32 pm

Yew spelt Ocrazio-Cortex rong.

sycomputing
Reply to  Menicholas
January 22, 2019 3:48 am

So did you. It’s actually “Occasional-Cortex.”

Use permitted with attribution, thanks.

🙂

sycomputing
Reply to  sycomputing
January 22, 2019 3:55 am

Oops Tesdorf beat me to it . . .

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  sycomputing
January 22, 2019 6:34 pm

“Occasional” is too generous.

Blackcap
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
January 22, 2019 1:51 am

They why is she in betting markets for being the next president in 2020? And she is an outsider granted, but she has better chances % wise than many. I reackon the Dems may be that arrogant to even try running an under 35 year old. F the constitution seems to be their mantra.

Reply to  Blackcap
January 22, 2019 12:56 pm

She has zero chance without a rewrite of the Constitution, being that she will not be old enough to run. And a change to that rule has, literally, zero chance of passing through a 2/3 vote of the house and senate, getting signed by the President, and then being ratified by 3/4 of the states.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 22, 2019 5:47 am

“why is no-one already doing that?”

Republicans don’t have a very strong sense of self-preservation. They desperately want the approval of the Leftwing News Media and they cannot band together to fight the Left because the Leftwing News Media is part of the Left and if Republicans band together to fight them then they won’t be loved and that’s a fate worse than death for some Republicans.

Republicans say, “Can’t we all just get along?” And then operate on the premise that we can. Meanwhile, the Demcrats are pulling every dirty trick they can think of to crush the Republicans.

It’s kind of a one-sided fight right now, although Trump has managed to put a little bit of spine into some Republicans. Fortunately, Trump has enough spine for all of them.

January 21, 2019 8:49 pm

“You’re all doomed. DOOMED!”

https://youtu.be/IzHJ_IorlwQ

January 21, 2019 8:49 pm

“You’re all doomed. DOOMED!”

https://youtu.be/IzHJ_IorlwQ

January 21, 2019 8:49 pm

Occasional-Cortex is in need of an oil change, grease and brain-transplant.

January 21, 2019 8:54 pm

Yup. She has all of those boxes ticked

mikebartnz
January 21, 2019 8:58 pm

What a load of drivel. How the hell can someone so dumb get elected.

Bemused Bill
Reply to  mikebartnz
January 21, 2019 9:17 pm

So you guys all think Dumbolina here is a God damned fool and the electorate that voted for her must be retarded?
Then check this out….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 21, 2019 9:21 pm

He just got reelected so his supporters must think the same thing.

Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 21, 2019 11:03 pm

That is so embarrassing I got weirded out within 5 seconds of hearing him begin his idiotic musings.
First time I heard it, I was surprised there were no guffaws of laughter, and the military buy he was questioning actually pretended to take his question seriously.

MarkW
Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 22, 2019 7:56 am

Is his vocabulary really so limited that he can’t think of the word “wide”? Even before he got to the part about the island capsizing, it was embarrassing to watch him struggle for basic, everyday words.

2hotel9
Reply to  MarkW
January 22, 2019 8:20 am

I know a man who was in the chamber when that was said, he had to fake a coughing fit and leave. It is just not cool for a US Army major to be seen laughing, publicly, at any member of Congress.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  mikebartnz
January 21, 2019 10:04 pm

How can they get elected?

Politics is a business. Your Nation May Vary but from I have been involved in pre-selection processes and there is a strong desire to select not the person who would be best at doing ‘government’ but the best at getting elected. There are numerous theories as to what makes someone good voter bait, but very few of the ones I have heard ever related to them being clever enough to actually make a difference once elected.

Unfortunately – or at least in Australia where we have compulsory voting – there exists the ‘Big Tit Vote’ where indifferent voters make their choice based on which female is the hottest. This exists. You will rarely hear anyone admit to it, but I have privately discussed this on occasion with some female elected members of our state parliament and while they didn’t formally agree with me, they certainly didn’t claim I had no idea what I was talking about either.

It exists. (Or at least with compulsory voting, Your Nation May Vary) The cunning hide its advantages behind their METOO hashtags and pick up votes from both sides of the sexism spectrum.

Also remember that politics is business and businesses have silent partners. You may be as dumb as a box of hammers but that is fine if you have powerful backers who will tell you what to do. They ‘help’ you with all the big words on the legal documents and you get to appear on national television – Win/Win.

Where the system falls down is where the person selected as being vote winning and controllable starts to go off script. With this lady it strikes me that the system decided she was both a vote winner and controllable and went for the short term gain of getting her elected. The problem now is she believes she is independent, important and clever enough to start driving the bus herself.

As an outsider I am open to correction, but my take is she is going to do her own party a fair bit of damage before they either rein her in or remove her.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Craig from Oz
January 22, 2019 5:57 am

“As an outsider I am open to correction, but my take is she is going to do her own party a fair bit of damage before they either rein her in or remove her.”

I think so, too. The radicals will love Ocasio but most of the American people are not socialists and her ideas are going to fall flat as soon as she tries to implement them. Her main idea is to raise taxes to 70 percent or higher. That’s not going to fly, so all her other ideas, which requre enormous amounts of money to do, will not fly either.

I don’t know if or when the establishment Democrats will reign in Ocasio. They may all be radicals by now or scared to buck her and the other socialists but her radical ideas are not going to be accepted by the American people.

MarkW
Reply to  mikebartnz
January 22, 2019 7:49 am

She looks good, and she’s promising lots of free stuff.
Unfortunately that’s all it takes these days.

Kenji
January 21, 2019 9:02 pm

In 12 years ALL of the Baby-Boomers will be retired, and she will have to find enough adults to pay taxes to support all the bold Socialist programs promised by occasional cortex. She won’t find enough adult taxpayers … so she’ll just tax the shit out of ‘carbon’ … and get more taxes out of the retired Baby boomers

Reply to  Kenji
January 21, 2019 9:44 pm

Well MS AOC and her fellow travelers in Congress will just come for your 401K and Roth-IRAs that you thought you’d already paid all the taxes on.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 22, 2019 8:01 am

She’s already declared that it’s immoral that people are allowed to be billionaires. It’s a short walk from there to a conclusion that it’s immoral that some people have enough money to retire while others don’t.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 23, 2019 6:39 am

“Tax the rich,
Feed the poor,
Till there are no,
Rich no more.”

January 21, 2019 9:04 pm

OCASIO-CORTEZ said:
[excerpt]
“… And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year, how are we saying let’s take it easy when the end person died from our cruel and unjust criminal justice system? How are we saying take it easy, the America that we’re living in today is dystopian with people sleeping in their cars so they can work a second job without healthcare and we’re told to settle down. It’s a fundamental separation between that fierce urgency of now, the why we can’t wait that King spoke of. …”

Ms O-C professes to care for the common man and the underprivileged, but then she advocates policies that have been proven to increase poverty and deprivation in every country where they have been attempted. The conclusion is that she is either delusional, or she fully understands what she is doing, and it is treasonous. There is ample global evidence that the far-left deliberately destroy the economy, so they can live like kings atop a ruined state.

Phoenix44
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2019 7:15 am

I’m afraid far too many people this age are so ignorant that they don’t understand how laughable they look to us oldies. They act like they are the first people to see injustice and racism in the world, and the first people to notice that there are inequalities and that life can be unfair. They then react as if the world is supposed to be utterly perfect – because they have led such easy, sheltered lives thanks to everything they now want to tear down.

But their Utopianism is extremely dangerous. It is those who think they can build a Heaven on Earth who have brought the most misery, poverty and death to the world, whilst those who just want to make a small thing better or more efficient have brought us wealth, health and happiness

Reply to  Phoenix44
January 22, 2019 4:40 pm

Thank you Phoenix44 – an excellent post.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
– George Santayana

But do we really have to repeat the carnage of the 20th Century all over again?

Leftists (aka Marxists, Progressives, Socialists, Greens, etc.) are the great killers of our age – Stalin and Mao killed about 130 million of their own people and Hitler killed more than 50 million in WW2. Then there are the lesser leftist killers, like Pol Pot in Cambodia.

Greens have killed almost as many more with their phony wars against DDT/malaria and CO2/global warming.

In my opinion, the leftist leaders belong in jail for crimes against humanity.

January 21, 2019 9:12 pm

How does a first world country produce such a person, what sort of educational system does the USA have, but even worse what sort of a education did the ones who voted for her have ?

I just hope that the members of the USA military are better educated, or do they have schools to re–educate the ones who join up.

MJE

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Michael
January 23, 2019 6:36 am

“…but even worse what sort of a education…”

Hmmm.

Patrick MJD
January 21, 2019 9:13 pm

Another time frame claim that will come to pass and proven to be wrong, again. How many claims like this have been made, came and passed?

Alan Tomalty
January 21, 2019 9:18 pm

The Epoch Times (which is the number 1 reporting newspaper in the world reporting on the evils of the Chinese Communist party) has reported in their November 29 -December 5 edition (the newspaper comes out once a week) that 40% of the US Democratic caucus (all the sitting Democratic congressmen and senators in the US government ) are members of a group called the Congressional Progressive Caucus. That group has extensive ties to several Marxist and Communist organizations in the US. Nancy Pelosi has just made a deal with that group that in exchange for their support of her to be elected speaker of the House, she would allow them to have more key appointments on House committees. This is surely a deal with the Devil himself (if you believe in Devils). The Epoch Times article then goes on to state that the Congressional Progressive Caucus is effectively part of the world Communist movement. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez is a member of that group. I asked her whether she was a Communist. She replied that she was a Democratic Socialist. I replied back to her that 100% socialism is impossible. Therefore part of the economy has to be in private hands, and wher edid she draw the line.

Of course she never replied back because socialists always refuse to draw the line.
SO IT SEEMS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE US WILL EFFECTIVELY BECOME IN THE NEAR FUTURE THE US DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY.

The Chinese Communist system works only because the CCP owns 66% of the ecomomy and in fact their economy is a sham. Everyone of their capitalist owners who own the 1/3 of the economy that the CCP doesn’t own; is liable to arrest and a speedy kangaroo court trial at any time. Companies that have owners that aren’t well connected to the CCP or who aren’t members of the CCP can have their company stolen at any time, the same way that the $50 billion Yukos Oil company was stolen by the Russian government. Every large or mid size Chinese company has to allow a member of the Chinese Communist party to access their books,data, and intellectual property. Each company can be ordered to follow any dictate of the CCP on any matter. So no political system works efficiently unless you have differing points of view. Because there is only 1 viewpoint in China, it does not practice capitalism. People like Alexandra Ocasio Cortez will lead us down that rabbit hole.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
January 22, 2019 5:25 am

Khodorkovsky, neocon darling in exile in the EU, tried to sell Yukos to ExxonMobil and paid -$3 billion taxes. Did some time on the Llubyanka diet for that.
China got 700 million citizens out of abject poverty in 10 years, has less poor than the US with 4 times the population.
We have the GHCQ, NSA, FB, going over ever utterance (remember Snowden??) and call it “democracy”.
LOL!
China and Russia have nothing to do with OC’s daft Bernie Green New Deal – that is a domestic aberration.
So do some serious study, look up Confucianism not von Hayek.
Trump’s stated intention to deal with China, and the Belt and Road Initiative are the correct ways forward.
Seems like OC also never heard of the BRI – the ignorance crosses the entire spectrum.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  bonbon
January 22, 2019 7:24 am

You do not realize the extent of Communist infiltration of the western democracies be it CCP infiltration or FSB infiltration. Putin is simply an extension of the Soviet KGB Communist system.

MarkW
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
January 22, 2019 8:24 am

It’s not that he doesn’t realize it, it’s more that he doesn’t care.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  bonbon
January 23, 2019 6:34 am

“China got 700 million citizens out of abject poverty in 10 years, has less poor than the US with 4 times the population.”

If that’s true, it’s largely because we’ve shipped all our (US) industry overseas. China has benefited greatly from envirowhackos here.

Wrusssr
January 21, 2019 9:19 pm

12 years?! Holy smoke. That’s exactly what Harvard’s Business Report said. How dare you jest about OC. Neither would have the same hidden agenda, would they? OC loves the Constitution. It’s what got her elected. How can an August body at Cambridge, a twitterine, and Nobel Al all come up with identical predictions and be wrong? It’s settled I tell you. Back to your drawing boards.

The Story of Sustainability in 2018: “We Have About 12 Years Left (pure propaganda bullspit)

https://hbr.org/2018/12/the-story-of-sustainability-in-2018-we-have-about-12-years-left?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter_weekly&utm_campaign=weeklyhotlist_not_activesubs&referral=00202&deliveryName=DM23125

Gerald Machnee
January 21, 2019 9:29 pm

You mean somebody elected her?

Neo
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
January 22, 2019 9:09 am

“… those who can’t, go into politics”

2hotel9
Reply to  Neo
January 22, 2019 2:53 pm

George Soros is getting plenty of bang for his buck, clearly.

Craig from Oz
January 21, 2019 9:30 pm

I just went a read that transcript about four times.

I am still not completely sure what she is trying to say. Is this a poor transcription or is she really just throwing out a word salad?

Even the famous ‘Follow Earthians’ speech by Bob Brown was easier to follow. Is she talking off the cuff or is this something she has prepared for?

joe
January 21, 2019 9:31 pm

Time to add all Dems to the no fly list. To save the planet.

Ocasio can buy an electric car as she can now easily afford it. Thus she can drive back and forth from her home district to Washington, There is absolutely no need for her to take an airplane.

I believe I heard Ocasio wanted hydrogen powered aircraft. Well Ocasio, if you don’t want to drive or ride in an electric car, may I suggest a solar powered dirigible? The technology exists. Dirigibles were flying across the Atlantic in the 1930s. Just cover the dirigible surface with solar panels and voila!

Will she do this? Naw. That’s for the little people.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  joe
January 23, 2019 6:31 am

We could call it the Risible Dirigible.

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