Grounded: President Trump Helps Nancy Pelosi and her Fellow Democrats Reduce their Carbon Footprints

Pelosi and Trump
Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Trump. Gage Skidmore from Peoria, AZ, United States of America [CC BY-SA 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons
Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart – President Trump blocked Nancy Pelosi and her entourage from using an Airforce jet for a seven day tour of Europe, Egypt and Afghanistan – though he suggested they could book commercial flights if they want.

President Trump apparently caught Democrats by surprise – their Air Force bus was photographed circling Capitol Hill after President Trump’s order.

I am sure you will all join me in commending President Trump for helping Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Democrats avoid the hideous carbon cost they would have incurred, had they used an airforce jet for their world tour.

House Democrats no doubt deep down appreciate President Trump’s reminder of their climate responsibilities; Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Democrat’s believe that climate change is an existential crisis.

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icisil
January 17, 2019 3:51 pm

They just needed a little fatherly admonition. Bless their wayward little hearts.

R Shearer
Reply to  icisil
January 17, 2019 4:49 pm

They should have locked the doors and driven them to the place where MS 13 is most likely to cross.

GoatGuy
Reply to  R Shearer
January 17, 2019 5:24 pm

Made me laugh

Sara
Reply to  icisil
January 17, 2019 5:03 pm

Hey, Admins: It is Air Force, not airforce or Airforce, although some of us ‘other than USAF’ types call it the Air Farce.

Thanks for posting the article. Anyone besides me notice the “shark’s teeth structure’ in Mr. Trump’s Presidential signature????? 🙂

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sara
January 17, 2019 5:12 pm

Trump’s signature reminds me of the real global temperature profile (the 1930’s being as warm as today) as represented by the Hansen 1999 US surface temperature chart:

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Paul Hildebrandt
Reply to  Sara
January 17, 2019 5:42 pm

Make fun of the Air Force as much as you want, but they are the only branch that can totally destroy the earth in less than an hour.

Scouser in AZ
Reply to  Paul Hildebrandt
January 17, 2019 5:54 pm

I guess the 230 Trident missiles of the US Navy don’t count? :^)

Reply to  Scouser in AZ
January 17, 2019 6:06 pm

And each one can be MIRV’d.

James Beaver
Reply to  Scouser in AZ
January 17, 2019 6:25 pm

I thought the same thing.
EM1/SS SSN 684 crew member.

ShanghaiDan
Reply to  Scouser in AZ
January 17, 2019 6:52 pm

Task a Marine with the destruction of the Earth and give him a spoon and 24 hours and he’ll have it done in 23 – and return a clean spoon! Semper Fi!

Sara
Reply to  Paul Hildebrandt
January 17, 2019 6:40 pm

Now, Paul, you know I meant that with love and admiration. Just because I was Navy does not mean I view the Zoomies with anything but respect and admiration and enduring…. luv.

After all, they have Warthogs and the Navy and Marines don’t. And the Army mostly has air tankers for air drops of runaway gamma goats – stuff like that. <3

Steve Reddish
Reply to  Sara
January 17, 2019 10:12 pm

This conversation reminds me of my military experience. Have you heard this one:

Task a Marine sergeant with securing a building and he will take a squad of riflemen and charge the building.

Task an Army sergeant with securing a building and he will send a private out to check all the locks.

Task an Air Force sergeant with securing a building and he will get on the phone and call a real estate company.

SR

2hotel9
Reply to  Steve Reddish
January 18, 2019 8:14 am

Actually, my time in US Army, we would call in artillery and level the building then secure the rubble.

Reply to  Paul Hildebrandt
January 18, 2019 4:21 pm

It may be merely a rumour but I heard that the air force is the arm of defence that fly into battle from a friendly airdrome, fire missiles from a safe distance, run away bravely and are home in time for tea and medals.

Said with much respect for all arms of the services

Ex-Weapons tech/Leut
(20 years Royal Australian Navy)

Rose Clalrk
Reply to  Sara
January 17, 2019 6:48 pm

not sharks teeth. WALL Slats!

[?? .mod]

John Dilks
Reply to  Rose Clalrk
January 17, 2019 8:57 pm

Mod,

Trumps signature.

[10-Q. .mod]

SMC
Reply to  Sara
January 18, 2019 4:11 am

I’ll give the Air Force this much… they send their officers to fight the war, not the enlisted.

Trebla
Reply to  SMC
January 18, 2019 5:24 am

Is that an electric bus?

Latitude
January 17, 2019 3:52 pm

What?…..Puerto Rico was booked up?

I love Trump…he good a burning them a new one

Rebel with a Cause
Reply to  Latitude
January 18, 2019 5:54 pm

Trump made a huge mistake. He should have let them fly to Afghanistan and then told them they couldn’t come back.

Russ R.
Reply to  Rebel with a Cause
January 18, 2019 9:11 pm

Got to agree with you Rebel.
Although you may want to consider a night time HALO jump for arrival into Afghanistan, and then keep the jet right on going back home. When they call for a ride back home, we can tell them to follow the heroin from Asia into Mexico. We want them back, as much as we want heroin and other drugs coming into the country to addict our citizens.
If they hurry they may get to the border before we build a wall, to keep them out!

Joel Snider
January 17, 2019 3:52 pm

*Snicker*

Sweet Old Bob
January 17, 2019 3:52 pm

Popcorn and beer time . Ha !

Marcus
January 17, 2019 3:52 pm

ROTFLMAO….. : )

Ken
January 17, 2019 3:55 pm

Brilliant!

nw sage
Reply to  Ken
January 17, 2019 5:06 pm

Absolutely awesome! Trump hit a grand slam!

ozspeaksup
Reply to  nw sage
January 18, 2019 3:24 am

wide grin from down under
excellent move!

Reginald Vernon Reynolds
January 17, 2019 3:56 pm

I hope Pelosi supporters take not that she was planning to be away for seven days and therefore isn’t sincere about ending the shutdown.

2hotel9
January 17, 2019 3:56 pm

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!! So, let me get this straight. Democrats, after decrying the “government shutdown” took off for 10 days vacation during Christmas/New Years, then last week they went to Puerto Rico for a tax payer funded “convention” with lobbyists, and today they were headed off on a 7 day world tour junket, again totally at tax payers’ expense and we are all supposed to believe they give s shyte about America? Really?!?!?

John Minich
Reply to  2hotel9
January 17, 2019 8:27 pm

The whole (hole) idea is that it is our money, not theirs so anything goes.

January 17, 2019 3:57 pm

Eric Worrall nails it again but this time with a great headline. Real humor is the best tactic to show up the lunacy of every “chicken little and the sky is falling.”

commieBob
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
January 17, 2019 5:02 pm

A chicken little for every pot. link Those darn chickens always come home to roost.

fxk
January 17, 2019 3:59 pm

News reports it as a 5th grade prank, but it is so much more. One needs timing to pull off a good joke.

2hotel9
Reply to  fxk
January 17, 2019 4:03 pm

Mr Limbow calls DJT the Disrupter In Chief, time to look about and see what else can be disrupted.

Fraizer
Reply to  2hotel9
January 17, 2019 4:29 pm

Four more days. According to federal rules after 30 days a permanent reduction in force (RIF) can be implemented:

“…An agency is required to use the RIF procedures when an employee is faced with separation or downgrading for a reason such as reorganization, lack of work, shortage of funds, insufficient personnel ceiling, or the exercise of certain reemployment or restoration rights. A furlough of more than 30 calendar days, or of more than 22 discontinuous work days, is also a RIF action. (A furlough of 30 or fewer calendar days, or of 22 or fewer discontinuous work days, is an adverse action.)…”

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/reductions-in-force/

rbdwiggins
Reply to  Fraizer
January 17, 2019 5:42 pm

That’s partly true…

There are two types of furloughs according to the Office of Personnel Management… Emergency Furlough (the type currently in effect) and Administrative Furlough (the type which could realistically trigger a “reduction in force” in the future)… A planned Administrative Furlough coupled with an organizational restructuring plan from the Office of Management and Budget is required in order to initiate a reduction in force that will survive the unavoidable legal challenge. Reductions in force furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements are not applicable to Emergency Shutdown Furloughs because the ultimate duration of an emergency shutdown furlough is unknown at the outset and is dependent entirely on congressional action, rather than agency action…

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/guidance-for-shutdown-furloughs.pdf

The pdf link provided is to the OPM’s September 2015 Guidance for Shutdown Furloughs

Reply to  Fraizer
January 18, 2019 11:05 am

The government has shut down, but …

There were 380 new federal job postings (for the general public) today alone.

There are 7,100 postings that are still open (for the general public)

There are around 30,000 Federal postings total.

They like to increase staff … they do not like to cut staff.

MarkW
Reply to  DonM
January 18, 2019 12:49 pm

How many retired during that period?

Reply to  DonM
January 18, 2019 3:55 pm

Don’t know.

Typical posting is open for less than 3 weeks; although some are open ended to allow for a long list to draw from … for a year or so.

The 20K some postings that are reserved for current fed employees don’t represent growth … just transfers and ladder climbing.

Ill Tempered Klavier
Reply to  DonM
January 18, 2019 9:04 pm

Remember Parkinson’s laws:

Work expands to fill the time allotted.

Expenditures rise to meet income.

An administrative department increases staff at a fixed rated unrelated to the state of whatever (if anything) is to be administered. 🙂 🙂

Rob
January 17, 2019 4:01 pm

Boss Trump has clipped Pelosi’s wings. Love it.

Reply to  Rob
January 17, 2019 5:38 pm

Pigs have wings???? Who knew?

Pelosi has been feeding at the pork trough of insider information and she and her hubby have been getting rich on those insider trades for decades.

Nate
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 17, 2019 6:08 pm

Lmao

Mike H
January 17, 2019 4:03 pm

All packed with no where to go. I am sure the troops are quite relieved they don’t have to deal with Nancy Palsy and her fellow travellers.

Gary Ashe
January 17, 2019 4:06 pm

Taking the pizz………….. the more the better.
Time to read the BBC’s version….

Trump………without the mr……i bet.

In a letter to Pelosi on Thursday, President Trump wrote that due to the shutdown, a trip to Egypt, Brussels, and Afghanistan would be delayed, declaring, “In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I’m sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate.”

“I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the strong border security movement to end the shutdown,” the president continued.

Pelosi is welcome to fly on a commercial aircraft to make the trip, he told the House speaker.

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Gary Ashe
January 17, 2019 4:09 pm

yup.

Trump cancels Nancy Pelosi foreign trip citing shutdown

Trump,

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Gary Ashe
January 17, 2019 4:13 pm

oops the first quote was from brietbart. [first post].
the 2nd post was the Brussels Broadcasting Caliphate.

Trump,……..not mr not president, no respect.

Solomon Green
Reply to  Gary Ashe
January 18, 2019 5:19 am

Thanks Mr. Ashe. I have heard it called many things but from now I will always refer to the BBC as the Brussels Broadcasting Caliphate. Appropriate in so many ways!

Cephus0
Reply to  Solomon Green
January 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Seconded

Reply to  Solomon Green
January 19, 2019 11:05 am

One wonders if the visit to Brussels was connected in any way with the current rather fraught Brexit situation.

2hotel9
Reply to  Michael Keal
January 19, 2019 3:59 pm

I am certain Nannee would have assured her fellow National Socialist Party of the World members that she has their backs. As long as they keep paying her, that is.

joe
January 17, 2019 4:10 pm

Perhaps it’s time to keep all greens on the ground. To save the planet! I’m sure Pelosi, Ocasio, Gore, and DiCaprio will all understand
:).

January 17, 2019 4:16 pm

Thank you President Trump for exemplifying precisely what is not happening across the pond with Brexit.

Sadly our PM seems unable or unwilling to shut down our parliament in order to accept your generous offer of a trade deal when we leave the EU 100%.

Responsible members of the UK look forward to re establishing mutually profitable relations with the US unencumbered by EU regulations.

Annie
Reply to  HotScot
January 17, 2019 10:24 pm

Hear hear HotScot! Brilliant letter by President Trump.

Someone
Reply to  HotScot
January 18, 2019 1:45 pm

Shutting down parliament? The UK PM has no authority to do that. It would be like the US president shutting down Congress, or worse.

Voltron
January 17, 2019 4:18 pm

This is the difference between reality and the movies.

In the movies, the snakes got on the plane.

Floyd Doughty
Reply to  Voltron
January 17, 2019 4:48 pm

+1000. That’s a superb observation.

Reply to  Voltron
January 17, 2019 7:57 pm

Nice

Troe
January 17, 2019 4:28 pm

Wow. Take that

PaulH
January 17, 2019 4:30 pm

Not sure why they should be going anywhere other than one of the 50 states.

Reply to  PaulH
January 17, 2019 4:46 pm

I know I’m old school, but if there were a need to visit those areas, wouldn’t that be a role for the Senate?
What information is a member of the House of Representatives going to gain by visiting that area that would be useful in representing their district in Congress?

Another junket for the entitled.

Latitude
Reply to  George Daddis
January 17, 2019 5:09 pm

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Reply to  George Daddis
January 17, 2019 7:25 pm

As a Speaker of the House, Madam Nancy Pelosi is Second in line to President’s Office after the Vice President Pence.

Annie
Reply to  Ashok Patel
January 17, 2019 10:26 pm

Ye gods! What a ghastly thought! Another witch of Washington.

Reply to  George Daddis
January 17, 2019 8:45 pm

I know I’m old school, but if there were a need to visit those areas, wouldn’t that be a role for the Senate?
Perhaps you should brush up on things:
The House Armed Services Committee is responsible for funding and oversight of the Department of Defense and defense policy generally. This includes ongoing military operations, the organization and reform of the Department of Defense, counter-drug programs, acquisition and industrial base policy, technology transfer and export controls, and detainee affairs and policy.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  Phil.
January 17, 2019 9:53 pm

“The House Armed Services Committee is responsible for funding and oversight of the Department of Defense”

This sounds like like minding the books – making sure funds are not being misspent, etc. It would be reasonable to send auditors and observers. What need is there for the Speaker of the
House and a bunch of Representatives to go overseas? Is Ms. Pelosi going to sit down at a table and look through accounting books? Would she be able to understand them if she did?

I agree with George Daddis’ point.

SR

Reply to  Steve Reddish
January 18, 2019 8:51 am

What need is there for the Speaker of the House and a bunch of Representatives to go overseas?

Under-the-table deals & misc payoffs, of course.

ShanghaiDan
Reply to  Steve Reddish
January 18, 2019 10:08 pm

Don’t forget about the 86 “friends and family” who were going to go along for the ride…

2hotel9
Reply to  ShanghaiDan
January 19, 2019 8:31 am

I wonder how much Nannee was planning to collect from each of them for those seats, she never does anything for free!

paul courtney
Reply to  Phil.
January 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Phil: Yes, the House has that oversight. But 20 congress persons? Couldn’t they just send their Pakistani IT team? They could take a quick side trip to neighboring Pakistan to visit all the money they liberated from Ds.

Reply to  PaulH
January 17, 2019 8:40 pm

Well Puerto Rico is a U S territory and visiting troops abroad is a responsibility of Congress.

John Endicott
Reply to  Phil.
January 18, 2019 5:18 am

Really? Which article of the constitution specifies “visiting troops abroad” as a responsibility of congress?

MarkW
Reply to  John Endicott
January 18, 2019 7:11 am

President is Commander in Chief.

John Endicott
Reply to  MarkW
January 18, 2019 9:34 am

That’s what I thought too. Phil, apparently, believes congress has that role.

TeaPartyGeezer
January 17, 2019 4:31 pm

It’s childish and irrational of me, but I’m just enjoying the hell out of this.

Not, however, looking forward to Pelosi’s next move …

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TeaPartyGeezer
January 17, 2019 5:27 pm

Pelosi’s extreme position of refusing to even sit down and talk with Trump about the wall is going to hurt her politically.

There are already a bunch of nervous democrats who at least want to sit down and negotiate with Trump and their numbers will increase as time goes on. Ond Democrat said last week that he had 63 calls at his office supporting Trump and the wall and five calls against. He said it looked to him like Trump had a lot of support. I’ll bet a lot of other Democrats are getting the same impression.

Meanwhile, Nancy refuses to even talk. Steny Hoyer thinks the Democrats ought to negotiate and he is second in command in the House. Nancy’s position may become untenable soon.

Nancy, you can’t look like you are not going to budge. It’s politics. People expect you to budge a little at least. If you don’t, then even the rubes realize you are an impediment and flag you as the problem, not Trump.

As an aside: I heard an interesting claim the other day. The claim was that if California had been left out of the vote count for the 2016 presidential election, than Trump would have won the popular vote by 1.2 million votes over Hillary.

So all we have to do is get California to declare itself independent from the US and then we will have conservative rule in the US locked in for a while.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 17, 2019 7:16 pm

Not even necessary to subtract the whole state of CA. If you subtract NYC and LA, the numbers of popular votes is reversed.
Ditto if you subtract a realistic estimate of fake and illegal votes.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Menicholas
January 17, 2019 7:47 pm

I bet Trump would beat Hillary by 10 million votes today.

I just saw a new poll a few minutes ago showing Trump’s approval among Hispanics was up 19 points to 50 percent. And this, during this wall controversy.

Black support for Trump is also much higher than when the 2016 vote was held.

2020 might be another 49-State landslide for Trump like Reagan got on his second time around. If Reagan had won 1,000 more votes in Minnesota, he would have won Minnesota and all 50 States. His opponent, Mondale, was from Minnesota.

Kristen
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 18, 2019 1:15 am

she comes from a very liberal California district. this will make them love her more.

Adrian Mann
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 18, 2019 4:18 am

And what is it, precisely, that can be negotiated? Trump wants the loot for his wall. No loot, end of chat. This has already happened. So, the only way to negotiate with him is to give him what he wants? That’s not negotiation.
The key thing you’re missing here is that One-Term-Trump is a colossally immature cretin who has no business being in the position he’s in. The rest of the world knows it. At least 1/2 of the US knows it. Even the Russians know it, and they’ve got Putin. The clock is ticking, the days are gradually passing by, and the end to this insane foray into the outer edges of collective insanity will be over, and the world will heave a collective sigh of relief.

2hotel9
Reply to  Adrian Mann
January 18, 2019 8:22 am

It is Americca’s wall, and it will be built.

Reply to  Adrian Mann
January 18, 2019 10:02 am

Adrian Mann — a supporter of lethal drugs, gang violence, criminals, human traffickers and permanent dependents coming across the border. Nice.

JEHill
Reply to  Adrian Mann
January 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Trump made a legitimate campaign promise. If Trump delivers the wall he will not be a one term president. The so-called “deplorables” will vote him in as President a 2nd term. The greatest beneficiaries of a wall will be the Hispanic and African-American communities. So if your are against the wall, as a liberal, than you are against the very group of people you profess to support.

Cephus0
Reply to  Adrian Mann
January 18, 2019 2:59 pm

Trump has massive support amongst the rapidly growing nationalist/populist movement across the Western World and beyond. Only legacy propaganda media-brainwashed gail to see it.

WBWilson
Reply to  TeaPartyGeezer
January 18, 2019 9:56 am

I am. This is a great soap opera.

Walter Sobchak
January 17, 2019 4:36 pm

Sick Burn

Tom Halla
January 17, 2019 4:42 pm

Let Nancy travel by means of galleys, with oars pulled by slaves, as that is the sort of society her policies would lead to.

MarkW
January 17, 2019 4:46 pm

Since Nancy won’t let Trump give the State of the Union Address from the House, Trump should just give it from the Oval office, and prevent all of the grandstanding that the Democrats were planning.

JVC
Reply to  MarkW
January 17, 2019 5:04 pm

agree 100%

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
January 17, 2019 5:41 pm

Yeah, the Democrats are probably going to turn the State of the Union address into a circus if it takes place in the House chamber, so Trump should give the speech from the Oval Office, or go down on the Southern Border in front of a friendly crowd. You know he will be talking about the wall and how the Democrats refuse to defend the border and the US, so the southern border would be a good backdrop. And we can listen to the crowd chant “Build that Wall !!! about a thousand times during the speech.

Reply to  MarkW
January 17, 2019 6:28 pm

He could do it in the Senate Chamber instead of the House. Need lots of extra chairs, though. Nothing says it should be in the House, or even a live speech at all.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  BobM
January 17, 2019 6:50 pm

Extra chairs for whom? Who says the House had to be invited? Next time, those posers claiming to be Republicans can grow a set and back the President and enact his policies. They had two years to get the funding done for the wall. No seat for you!!

MarkW
Reply to  BobM
January 17, 2019 6:57 pm

Do it in the Senate, and if there aren’t enough chairs for the Democrats, tough noogies. It was their choice.

Reply to  MarkW
January 17, 2019 8:57 pm

She actually suggested that.

Reply to  MarkW
January 18, 2019 10:06 am

Since Nancy won’t let Trump give the State of the Union Address from the House

An empty & childish threat — she has no authority to do that. It isn’t her House, it’s America’s.

stablesort
January 17, 2019 4:50 pm

Trump just won the vote of all the troops in Afghanistan; now none of them will have to stand around while Pelosi makes cute noises for the cameras.

Tim
January 17, 2019 4:50 pm

Wonder who she was meeting in Brussels.

?

R Shearer
Reply to  Tim
January 17, 2019 5:24 pm

Pelosi’s deputy chief of staff, Drew Hammill, said on Twitter that the Brussels stop was required for pilot rest and that her group had planned to meet with top NATO commanders there “to affirm the United States’ ironclad commitment to the NATO alliance.”

H.R.
Reply to  R Shearer
January 17, 2019 7:32 pm

… and then go shopping!

R Shearer
Reply to  H.R.
January 17, 2019 7:49 pm

I might go seek the inspiration of a Trappist monk myself.

H.R.
Reply to  R Shearer
January 18, 2019 3:21 am

Now you have me wondering how much Tripel ale that plane could haul back to the states.

Cynthia
Reply to  R Shearer
January 17, 2019 9:38 pm

Only one crew of pilots?
That’s interesting.
reference “Brussels stop was required for pilot rest “

Admin
January 17, 2019 4:53 pm
R Shearer
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 5:02 pm

Good comment Charles. Scientific American, Science, Nature, National Geographic, etc., all jumped the shark years ago and they are not blogs at all.

MarkW
Reply to  R Shearer
January 17, 2019 6:36 pm

And what mistake would that be. Not behaving as Saint David the D has decreed for them to behave?

Latitude
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 5:18 pm

David….both links are Scientific American….just like this link (WUWT) they do science, opinion, commentary, etc….all under one name Scientific American…just like this link WUWT

Latitude
Reply to  Latitude
January 17, 2019 5:29 pm

..and proudly put their name on both

Who are you trying to kid??

Tom Halla
Reply to  Latitude
January 17, 2019 5:46 pm

Scientific American has been deeply political since at least the 1980’s, when they went over the top on nuclear war and SDI issues. My favorite for the most over-the-top was an article on how much damage would be done if the Soviets did ground burst nuclear weapons on nuclear power plants.

MarkW
Reply to  Latitude
January 17, 2019 6:38 pm

A distinction without a difference.
As always you are looking for an excuse to ignore anything that you can’t refute.

Reply to  Latitude
January 17, 2019 8:40 pm

Dirkse – really? You really want to use this particular apologetic?

http://www.scientificamerican.com – the front page mixes “articles” and “blogs” together – without any way to discriminate between them, other than rolling over the link and observing the destination. WUWT explicitly marks every article (well, almost, someone occasionally forgets the tag) as “politics,” “opinion,” “humor,” (my personal favorite), etc.

The ONLY reason there are two sites is that one is paywalled. When running two or more sites, with some content paywalled and some content “free,” it is technically much simpler to segregate them. Exposing an occasional piece of the paywalled content on the “free” site is then a simple matter, and avoids the risk of accidentally exposing all of the paywalled content.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 5:35 pm

“Its why this site is a “blog” and not really about science.”

You wish.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 17, 2019 6:39 pm

David is one of those people who believes that the definition of science is “I agree with it”.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 5:35 pm

They don’t seem to make the distinction.
Looks like they seem to think it's them.

mike the morlock
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 6:33 pm

David Dirkse January 17, 2019 at 5:03 pm
You really need to learn to read and comprehended.

For a Blog or periodical to truthfully claim it is science orientated on subjects such as climate, then it would have to expound the viewpoint that the science is never settled and MUST be challenged and debated in an open and fair manner.
Anytime a politician makes a statement like the Science is settled or the debate is over, such organization have the responsibility of informing the public of this misrepresentation.
Have any of the publication you endorse meet those minor requirements of intellectual honesty and professionalism? Show me, only a few truthful words. If you cannot then don’t pretend they are science oriented publications. They should be cataloged it the fantasy section.

Oh and this Blog read the quote below. It includes News

“About Watts Up With That? News and commentary on puzzling things in life, nature, science, weather, climate change, technology, and recent news by Anthony Watts”

michael

MarkW
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 6:34 pm

Your average leftist measures right and wrong based solely on whether they get more free stuff or not.

MarkW
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 6:35 pm

For someone who claims to be above talking about politics, talking about politics is all you ever do.
For a leftist, something is only wrong when someone else does it.

MarkW
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 6:37 pm

Fascinating, a blog can’t do science?
Are there any other stupid bigotries that you would care to share with the class?

mike the morlock
Reply to  MarkW
January 17, 2019 6:55 pm

David Dirkse January 17, 2019 at 6:43 pm

Failed didn’t you. Couldn’t find a single source I’m. waiting.
As elevator music plays.
Smile smile smile

“Being about science doesn’t mean it is doing science.” True but irrelevant, but no publication does “science” by your own definition.

michael

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
January 17, 2019 7:03 pm

Once again Dirkse tries to create a division where there is none.
First off, neither magazines nor blogs do science. They publish science. I realize that such a distinction requires an IQ above room temperature to comprehend, but perhaps someone will find a way to explain it to David anyway.
Secondly, David has yet to demonstrate that nobody publishes real science here. All he can manage to do is whine that amongst the science, there are articles with a pointed political view that offends his precious self.

There is no earthly reason why a blog, or a magazine can’t do both.
David is just once again desperately searching for a reason to ignore what he can’t refute.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 17, 2019 7:02 pm

Um, maybe you’ve forgotten that “climate science” as presented by the mainstream media is mostly politics. Even august science journals like Nature has published climate science that had little actual science. WUWT had never claimed to be a science website. But keep justifying your comments. It’s entertaining.

John Endicott
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 18, 2019 5:32 am

Have David’s posts been deleted? I’m sure (based on past experience as well as judging by the replies I do see) they were nonsense but I’m not seeing them but I sure am seeing a lot of replies to them. Would be nice to see the replies in context to the nonsense they were replying to.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  John Endicott
January 18, 2019 9:35 am

I have the same question and request. Yesterday I saw a comment quibbling that CTM shouldn’t be commenting. I intended to reply that there was no problem with a moderator expressing an opinion as long as having an opinion counter to the moderator didn’t get your comment deleted. Before I could post, the quibbling comment disappeared.
Perhaps the quibbling comment was removed for good cause, but now I cannot confirm that. I much prefer the method of clipping offensive comments, with an explanation, over simply disappearing comments.

SR

ROBERT CIRCLE
Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 18, 2019 1:29 pm

If we had just sat down and reasoned with the 9/11 hi-jackers it would have all turned out differently. I wonder why the 2400 people who died that day didn’t happen to think of that?

Seriously, tho, some people are hard to convince.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
January 19, 2019 11:35 am

Charles this link got me to thinking. I thought if the (Berlin) Wall had never come down would comrade Merkel have still been behind it? Not sure that the author was selling his dislike of walls as well as he thought he was.

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