Cliff Mass: victim of academic political bullying

Reposted from Judith Curry’s Climate Etc.

by Judith Curry

There is a disturbing story coming out of the University of Washington surrounding Cliff Mass.

In preparing this article, I have received material from a member of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Washington. I also ran into another member of the Department while at the AGU meeting this week, who corroborated these events. I conducted a 30 minute phone interview with Cliff Mass.

Who is Cliff Mass?

Cliff Mass  has been a faculty member in the University of Washington Atmospheric Sciences Department since 1982.   His research focuses on numerical weather modeling and prediction, the role of topography in the evolution of weather systems, and on the weather of the Pacific Northwest. In addition to his research publications, Cliff Mass has published a popular book entitled ‘Weather of the Pacific Northwest.’

 Since 2008, Cliff Mass has maintained a popular blog Cliff Mass Weather and Climate. Mass posts regular articles on meteorology, Pacific Northwest weather history, and the impacts of climate change written for the general public.

He has 13,000 twitter followers. Mass also has a weekly radio show with 400,000 weekly listeners (!)

Cliff Mass – climate ‘denier’?

 Cliff Mass has been characterized as a ‘sort of’ climate denier. The first reference to this is a 2015 article Cliff Mass: Scientific lies and the new climate deniers. 

“He is also a dangerous new breed of climate skeptic. He has made a theme of downplaying the role of global warming in extreme weather events, and in exposing what he calls “overzealousness” in the scientific, media, and activist community.”

A 2017 article in Stranger entitled Why does Cliff Mass believe scientists and leftist journalists are exaggerating the dangers of climate change?

“Cliff Mass is not a climate denier, but he is their ally, which is as good as being a climate denier.”

 The accusation of ‘denier’ got more explicit when Sarah Myre testified before the State of Washington House of Representatives: Can you be a climate scientist and an advocate? 

“In February 2017, Sarah Myhre traveled to Washington’s capital, Olympia, to give testimony to the state House of Representatives Environment Committee. There, Representative Shelly Short, a Republican from northeastern Washington, asked her to comment on her colleague Mass’ unwillingness to link recent wildfires, droughts, and hurricanes to climate change. Myhre responded that she and many of her colleagues saw Mass’ recent views “as coming from a denialist or contrarian place.

The Cascadia Daily states:

“Seattle weather guy and climate change denier Cliff Mass”

 So, what does Cliff Mass have to say about climate change, in his own words? From an interview with the UW Alumni magazine and summary from the Wikipedia (based on my knowledge of Cliff’s opinions and writings, this is correct):

 “According to Mass, “Global warming is an extraordinarily serious issue, and scientists have a key role to play in communicating what is known and what is not about this critical issue.

Mass has stated publicly that he shares the scientific consensus that global warming is real and that human activity is the primary cause of warming trends in the 20th and 21st centuries. He has been critical of the Paris Climate accord for not going far enough to address the negative impacts of climate change. However, Mass is also frequently critical of what he has characterizes as exaggerations of the past and current impacts of climate change in the news media, including the attribution of individual extreme weather events to global warming.”

The most recent ‘denier’ claims are associated with Cliff’s statements about the causes of the recent California fires: Cliff Mass: Climate change is real but . . .

“But Mass takes issue every time someone points to local extreme weather and says “that’s caused by climate change.”

The extremes we’ve seen in Seattle, around the region and even across the U.S. — most of them anyway — are caused by anomalous weather patterns, not climate change, Mass said.

There are, of course, those who would argue that by nitpicking such details, Mass only feeds ammunition to climate change deniers. Mass doesn’t want to downplay global warming; he just doesn’t want to stretch the truth to try and out-extreme those who would deny it. “So global warming’s very serious,” Mass said. “But it’s coming up in the future, not right now, for us.”

Sarah Myhre is not happy with Mass’ recent statements about the California wildfires. From an article by James Delingpole: Brown Fiddled While California Burned:

“One Dr Sarah Myhre – who, gloriously, bills herself as a “public scholar scientist advocate communicator” [actually, you know, just “activist” would have done] – tweeted at him “This. Is. Pure. Propaganda.” And then told a Washington radio station that had given him airtime that giving Cliff a “platform” was a “form of violence.”

So in summary, Cliff Mass accepts the consensus science. However he breaks with the ‘activists’ in terms of thinking it is a bad idea to falsely claim that extreme weather events are caused by AGW.

Initiative-1631

Most unforgivably, Mass broke with the progressive activists in terms of not supporting the latest carbon fee initiative in Washington, I-1631. Mass has long advocated for some sort of carbon tax: How to make a carbon tax work in Washington 

Mass was a strong supporter of a previous carbon tax initiative (which was voted down). His concerns with I-1631 are described in three blog posts:

I don’t pretend to be an expert on I-1631 and I am not passing judgment here, but I will say that Mass’s position is well-supported and defensible.

For a perspective from the supporters of I-1631, I refer to Sarah Myhre’s article in the Stranger entitled New carbon tax initiative drafted with more color and less white supremacy. Reducing CO2 emissions seems to be a relatively minor factor; climate policy has become a crusade to change the balance of power:

“When climate policy is written by white men in a closed room, that is white supremacy.”

Things got really ‘interesting’ as a result Mass’ blog post ‘If you worry about climate change . . .’ , which had this statement:

“The initiative hardwires money to certain special interest groups–the left-leaning supporters of the measure. A minimum of ten percent of the money goes to Indian tribes, who are exempted from paying any carbon fee by the initiative. Labor advocates got a fifty million dollar fund, replenished annually, for worker support programs. And to provide funding to the social action groups pushing the initiative, 35% of the money goes to “pollution and health action areas” of minority and “vulnerable populations.” There is more, but you get the message (see the picture below).” [The picture was pigs at a trough.]

Mass’ point was that special interest groups were hardwired for a good portion of the funds. He wanted an image that illustrated ‘political pork’ and special interest groups feeding at the public trough and so he used the pigs at a trough image.

While there were no complaints about the image in the blog comments, a few of the activists at the UW claimed it was racist. Imagery of pigs at a public trough has been used for over a century, and has never been used to refer to minorities as far as Mass could identify. ‘Pigs at a trough’ is about the well-connected and privileged. Mass decided to be sensitive to the ‘feelings’ of thee activists and pulled the image. Then Mass received a number of messages after he pulled it, accusing him of giving in to mob rule. There was nothing racist or anything else inappropriate in the text, and no one has suggested there was. Apparently the mention of the phrase ‘Indian tribes’ in the same paragraph that references an image of pigs at the trough is sufficient to trigger an accusation of racism.

Note: I-1631 was voted down in the November election.

Department of Atmospheric Sciences

Any scientist that is active in the public debate on climate change (no matter what their actual position in the debate) will invariably be subject to attacks on twitter, the blogosphere and even by journalists. That is part of the noise associated with the public debate on climate change. This noise shouldn’t matter, in the overall scheme of things.

However, it is a different kettle of fish when people from your own university, and even your own Department, go after you publicly, with the objective of stifling your freedom of speech. And then when University administrators get involved, a threatening situation can emerge.

A number of University of Washington graduate students have taken a vocal stance against Cliff Mass, particularly on twitter. These same activist students that were so upset about the pig picture participated in online character assassination, calling Mass every name in the book over the past six months because they are unhappy with his rejection of 1631 and his research/blog posts on wildfires and attribution of extreme events.  They have accused him of deception, being on the payroll of oil companies, purposely obfuscating with multiple twitter accounts, racism, misogyny, tokenism, Trumpism. They  are hypersensitive about any indirect criticism of their ‘side’ but are fine with name-calling and personal attacks on those they disagree with.

The attacks ramped up when a group of students complained to the Assistant Dean for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Rather than meet with Cliff Mass to discuss, the Assistant Dean sent a mass email to the faculty of the Atmospheric Sciences Department, with the following lede:

“a recent blog posting by a member of our community on a personal website included imagery and text that was racially insensitive and caused offense to a significant number of members in the departmental community.”

No attempt was made by this Assistant Dean to meet with Cliff Mass, or to understand that there was no racism evident or intended, and that the image in question was quickly removed from the blog post.

I will not ‘name and shame’ any of the graduate students here, who in any event are probably proud of their behavior. (JC note to students applying for jobs: search committees will check your social media presence). However, one graduate student in particular gets a ‘dishonorable’ mention here: Alex Lenferna, a Ph.D. candidate in the UW Philosophy Department with a Certificate in Atmospheric Science. He wrote a blog post that is basically a ‘hit-job’ on Cliff Mass, owing to his failure to support I-1631, including playing the ‘racism’ card. The blog post includes an image: Cliff Mass ‘hearts’ oil.

I won’t dignify Lenferna’s slime by reproducing any of it. This blog post is significant, however,  because the Atmospheric Sciences Department Chair (Dale Durran) sent a mass email to the Department faculty including the link to Lenferna’s post, and voicing concern about Mass’ behavior and ‘racism’, and including the image Mass ‘hearts’ oil.

The Chair then called a general Department-wide meeting about the blog post Mass wrote, with the event billed as ‘controversy.’ An ombudsperson was enlisted to run the meeting, but the Chair took over, serving as inquisitor and critic. The Chair prevented Mass from finishing his opening comments and hectored Mass throughout the meeting. The activist students were true to form, hurling all kinds of insulting, personal and inappropriate remarks.

So what is going on here? Is the Department of Atmospheric Sciences making a stand against political activism by its faculty members? Hardly. In fact, the Chair, Dale Durran, pressured each of the faculty members to sign a statement supporting I-1631. This statement was published by the Seattle Times :

“Some know they must stop smoking, but can’t, and it wrecks their health. As spelled out in the recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report, humanity has been acting like a chain smoker. Initiative 1631 gives us the chance to change. The opposition to I-1631 is largely concerned with the politics of taxing and spending. These are important matters, but they should not be endlessly debated in lieu of taking action. I-1631 is the third major effort to discourage carbon emissions in Washington state.

Science shows carbon emissions remain in the atmosphere for hundreds to thousands of years, warming and dramatically changing the climate. Because of the way carbon accumulates, the emission reductions required to hold future changes in climate below any given level become more drastic with each year we wait to begin serious cuts.

Unlike the carbon emitted while waiting for a perfect law, passing I-1631 does not represent an irrevocable hundreds-of-years commitment. After a short period, I-1631 could be amended to make it even better.

Now is the time to take a big step to kick our carbon habit.

Dale Durran, professor and chair, and 21 other professors in the Atmospheric Sciences Department at the University of Washington, Seattle (the views expressed here are those of the authors and not UW)”

While many of the faculty members appear to have signed this enthusiastically (based on their signatures on other lists related to I-1631), I’ve been told that several faculty members felt uncomfortable signing this. One of the faculty members I spoke with said they felt compelled to sign the letter since they didn’t want to stand up to Chair; this individual told me they voted against I-1631.

There are several people in the Department of Atmospheric Sciences that don’t like Cliff Mass (including, obviously, the Chair). They are concerned about his status as Washington’s ‘celebrity’ scientist – being either envious of this status or concerned that this status makes Mass relatively immune to ‘pressure’ from Departmental leadership. But most fundamentally, they seem to dislike that his blog is getting in the way of their own political advocacy. 

JC reflections

The climate change advocacy disease seems to have affected many of the UW faculty and graduate students.  Apart from the issue of activism potentially getting in the way of scientific objectivity,  the big issue here is that the Chair attempted to ‘institutionalize’ this activism with the I-1631 support letter. I have to say I find this very inappropriate behavior for a Chair, and I’m surprised that the higher administration didn’t reprimand him for this (in the old days I would have been reprimanded for this at Georgia Tech, but under the current administration, who knows). Faculty members were pressured into signing that letter,  since the Chair controls their reappointments and promotions, salary, teaching assignments, etc. The public ‘shaming’ meeting is beyond the pale, particularly the Chair’s behavior during this meeting. After this behavior, I cannot imagine how the UW faculty and administration can have any confidence in the leadership of their current Chair.

And finally, a closing comment about Cliff Mass. While this can’t be fun for him, I’m not too worried about Cliff Mass: Cliff has friends in high places and an enormous ‘bully pulpit’ in terms of his blog and radio show. Trying to take him down isn’t going to work.

I have much more to say on this situation and the broader implications, I will write more in a follow on post.

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MarkW
December 13, 2018 10:13 am

The left tolerates no decent. Agreeing with them 90% is not enough, it must be 100% or you are an enemy of the state.

Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2018 10:37 am

Leftists are horrible people.

If Cliff Mass is getting a lot of complaints
from the leftists, who are not very bright,
then he must be doing a good job.

Mass’s articles on wildfires were excellent.

I’m going to bookmark his blog / website
and read him regularly.

I thank the leftists for inadvertently
telling me Mass was doing a great job
refuting the coming climate change catastrophe
fairy tales.

icisil
Reply to  Richard Greene
December 13, 2018 1:53 pm

I just ran across this well written article that gives a lot of insight into the mindset of the kinds of people who are attacking Cliff

https://quillette.com/2018/12/11/sad-radicals/

Louis Hooffstetter
Reply to  icisil
December 13, 2018 5:19 pm

“We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.”

Sarah Myhre and her cronies are climate fascists.

Annie
Reply to  icisil
December 14, 2018 7:56 pm

That is an excellent article icisil. Thank you for the link.

kristi silber
Reply to  Richard Greene
December 13, 2018 6:16 pm

Richard Greene,

“Leftists are horrible people.

If Cliff Mass is getting a lot of complaints
from the leftists, who are not very bright”

You are worse than those who are attacking Mass. At least they are talking about an individual they disagree with or dislike. You simply insult everyone in a group. How easy it is to thoughtlessly hate and condemn the Other, regardless of whether it’s justified. I suppose you consider yourself “bright”?

ironargonaut
Reply to  kristi silber
December 14, 2018 2:34 am

That is not true and you know it. It is not just an individual they attack it is EVERYONE who does not agree with them, republicans for example.. Heck it sounds like they think all whites are racists. Furthermore, have you ever called them out for this same behavior on their blogs or is it just this “group” on this blog whose behavior you condemn?

Chris
Reply to  ironargonaut
December 14, 2018 7:07 pm

ironargonaut,

Of course Kristi Silber is correct. Richard Greene is an utter hypocrite. 90% of registered Democrats believe AGW is real. That means 10% don’t. Greene lumps every Democrat into one category and assigns traits to all of them.

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  ironargonaut
December 17, 2018 1:38 pm

I doubt the number is as high as 90% and as a leftist myself — far left by US standards but pretty much middle of the road by European standards– that number is falling all of the time.

And I find that leftists are now beginning to support nuclear power, more so than fossil fuel advocates, who tend to be on the right.

Reply to  kristi silber
December 14, 2018 9:49 am

kristi, if you read icisil’s quillette link just above here, I’d bet the “progressive” culture discussed in the article would be quite familiar to you….

Kurt
Reply to  kristi silber
December 14, 2018 10:38 pm

Although I would agree that Richard Green was wrong to make the implied generalization that all leftists were horrible and not very bright, I disagree that this is worse than a personalized, individual attack. In fact I think you have it backwards. As a conservative, I’m generally inured to the kind of silly, false generalizations I see in print and on television against conservatives about being heartless, selfish, evil, racist and on and on and on. I can just ignore it. But I can guarantee you that if I found out that someone had singled me out by name and called me “selfish” or “evil” I would take much greater offense, and I wouldn’t just ignore it.

Mass is being individually and unjustly called a racist by a number of morally leprous students, and his own colleagues are siding with them in an overweening tribute to political correctness. That’s far worse than Richard Green’s overgeneralization.

Orson
Reply to  Richard Greene
December 13, 2018 10:03 pm

“Climate Science Victims” is a volume crying out to get written, with pages of redemption worth shouted from the rooftops of genuine scientists.

The latest such scientist (ABOVE) who’s been smeared is certainly not the first. In fact the toughest question mark to answer is this: who was the first? Willie Soon and Sally Baliunas, perhaps (with only one still working)? Or shall we start with Fred Singer?

Next, the routine with which good to excellent and even near-greats get smeared — eg, Roger Pielke, Sr – the CSU father of the now better known “Jr” at the University of Colorado, with over 500 publications — is what ought to ring the bell of general alarm among scientists.

No one escapes the Jihad: take for instance the fact that Roger Pielke, Jr was forced from the online sensational state blog 538.org (IIRC)…. Such is their power and reach to silence honest information and analytical exchange today.

McCarthy-ism didn’t see but a fraction of the hysteria we witness monthly and even weekly today for years and years.

Me? I’m moving to Tahiti. Perhaps for good because Paul Gauguin was all too prescient: “Seeing they see not, hearing they hear not”. (. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Do_We_Come_From%3F_What_Are_We%3F_Where_Are_We_Going%3F )

Reply to  Orson
December 14, 2018 10:05 am

In fact the toughest question mark to answer is this: who was the first?

Patrick Michaels when he was State Climatologist at UVA back in the mid-80s. He was writing in his quarterly “Virginia Climate Advisory” about harassment from his employers about not towing the line on the newly invented grant opportunities — CAGW.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  beng135
December 18, 2018 6:52 am

Where was he towing it to?

Tom Halla
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2018 10:37 am

This is rather like the late 1930’s purges, where very few “Old Bolsheviks” survived, despite being Party adherents.
Calling out advocates for improperly attributing the California fires to climate change is criticizing the Party line.

Carbon500
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2018 10:48 am

MarkW: it should be ‘dissent’, not ‘decent.’
To dissent is to disagree.

TonyL
Reply to  Carbon500
December 13, 2018 11:15 am

Perhaps. I note that the Left seems not to tolerate anything decent as well.
{See “age appropriate” transgender theory taught to school children}

Eric Doll
Reply to  Carbon500
December 13, 2018 12:14 pm

Sorry, I should have scrolled down. You and TonyL had it covered.

Eric Doll
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2018 12:10 pm

While there is chance of Freudian slip in “The left tolerates no decen(cy)”, you probably should have written “dissent”. We don’t want to appear illiterate now, do we?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Eric Doll
December 13, 2018 12:44 pm

He’s not wrong, either way.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Eric Doll
December 13, 2018 12:49 pm

The Left also tolerate no descent, as in they never back down at all nor get down off their soap box, these days.

commieBob
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2018 12:55 pm

These folks need to reflect on their uncomfortable similarity to Mao’s Red Guards. The Red Guards were even stupider and less tolerant than ISIS. They should reflect on the fact that, in the long run, things went poorly for the Red Guards. I note that things aren’t going so well for ISIS either. They should also reflect on the fact that, overall, SJWs are seen as rather stupid.

We had a chairperson who did 1/10 of what Dale Durran did to an undeserving faculty member. The union got involved, lawyers got involved, that chairman was gone within the year. In fairness, the chairperson did all kinds of other stupid stuff. On the other hand, there is the case of Lindsay Shepherd which is causing continuing grief for Laurier University.

People who publicly act in a heinous and reprehensible manner usually get their comeuppance.

Joel Snider
Reply to  commieBob
December 13, 2018 1:45 pm

Bob, I’m afraid that would require a moment of self-awareness. And even then, I think you’re not considering their supernatural capacity for rationalization.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  commieBob
December 14, 2018 1:54 am

What I am seeing here is just a more intense version of university politics as usual. Having been the victim of such witch hunts myself, it does not surprise me. The pack tends to gang up on anyone who is successful beyond their established mode of mediocrity. They operate under the theory that a highly successful colleague makes the rest of them look bad in comparison. In this instance it is the AGW clowns that run the show but that is just an excuse, any form of success that draws attention to one is enough to generate jealousy and tacky behavior.

No doubt at all that Mass is successful and has a high profile outside the UW puddle. That his orthodoxy can be questioned is only more blood in the water; his colleagues would likely try to bring him down no matter what simply because he is minding his own business and doing well.

It is sad that such small, limited minds are running UW and most other colleges and universities, but it has ever been thus. The human tendency to try and destroy any individual that makes the rest look inadequate is an unfortunate facet of our behavior.

ccscientist
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
December 14, 2018 8:56 am

The average faculty member rarely publishes anything and the top ones publish hundreds of papers–lots of room for jealousy. Many academics have small minds and poor reasoning skills.

Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2018 2:58 pm

the Left doesn’t tolerate decent people nor does it tolerate “dissent.”

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2018 6:31 am

“The left tolerates no decent.”

Fail.

Weylan McAnally
December 13, 2018 10:20 am

Cliff Mass has become an apostate at UW because his AGW belief is impure. AGW followers require 100% adherence to the gospel of their beliefs. Any deviation from the gospel will not be tolerated and will be actively punished. Despite the author’s assertions, Cliff Mass will be expelled from the AGW religion, will lose his job at UW and will be shunned by his fellow AGW congregants.

E J Zuiderwijk
December 13, 2018 10:23 am

Is anybody compiling a list of people who over the years have been pestered out of their job for having their own thoughts about ‘climate change’ (and their pesterers)?

Reply to  E J Zuiderwijk
December 13, 2018 3:32 pm

A better list would be of those who have pestered others out of their jobs.

We will need it for the future climate alarmist trials

Louis Hooffstetter
Reply to  E J Zuiderwijk
December 13, 2018 5:25 pm

William Gray and Judith Curry are the first to come to my mind.
Dr. Gray was defunded by none other than Al Gore of Manbearpig fame.
I believe Judy Curry was hounded by the team of witch doctors that founded Real Climate.

So Cliff Mass is in good company!

Russ R.
December 13, 2018 10:24 am

“He’s a WITCH!! I saw him cavorting with the Devil!”
Human nature has not changed as much as we think it has. We think because we know more, and we have more stuff, and we are able to do more things, that we are different than our ancestors. We are different on a logical level, but very similar on an emotional level.
He questioned that which cannot be questioned. And logic will only make the problem worse for those that want certain “science” off limits to questioning. For them it is a religion, and you either tow the line, or face the Inquisition.

Adam
Reply to  Russ R.
December 13, 2018 12:08 pm

Alex Lenferna isn’t even American. He’s from South Africa. The people of Washington offer him an opportunity to come here and study, and this is how he behaves. BTW, he’s a Fulbright scholar, which speaks to the utter debasement of that program.

Caroline
Reply to  Adam
December 13, 2018 10:42 pm

And his Ph.D is in philosophy with a “certificate in atmospheric sciences”. Thesis title (wait for it)…”Equitably ending the Fossil fuel era: climate justice, capital, and the carbon budget”.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Russ R.
December 13, 2018 2:22 pm

Russ,
You hit the nail on the head squarely. Thank you for stating it so clearly.

Thomas Ryan
Reply to  Russ R.
December 13, 2018 3:00 pm

“He questioned that which cannot be questioned.”
Isn’t this science?

Micky H Corbett
Reply to  Russ R.
December 14, 2018 12:06 am

Russ,

One of my favourite books is The Big Short by Michael Lewis. I love it that much I have the audio book and the movie (which is partially fictionalised). I listen to it every month or so. One of the main themes is when all these guys are talking about how they shorted the subprime mortgage market. They couldn’t believe how long it went on for.

The people involved where either stupid or criminal.
The rating agencies trusted the banks because they had an incentive to.

These are the main themes I see with climate science.

The incentives to not question it are strong. But that doesn’t mean it is correct at all. Or that is safe.

I’ve posted many times: the fundamental source data does not justify application of anything they come up with to the real world. Only if there is an incentive to do so do you loosen your ethics.

Caligula Jones
December 13, 2018 10:24 am

Funny how far-left media outlets (unknown to most outside a very small local circle), social media and PhD candidates are accepted now as equally qualified “experts” as far as the MSM and some politicians are concerned.

Cheap stuff. Literally. Just as anyone can be a celebrity without any talent these days (hell, even total frauds used to have to at least by attractive), anyone with a keyboard can make a point. Most of us admit we’re just blowing off steam. The MSM and politicians (sorry for the redundancy) are so incredibly lazy these days.

Fact check? Do they believe its as automatic as spell check or something?

Reply to  Caligula Jones
December 13, 2018 1:13 pm

Caligula Jones

Fact check? Do they believe its as automatic as spell check or something?

it’s? 🙂

Caligula Jones
Reply to  HotScot
December 14, 2018 6:26 am

Oops!

Thanks for the catch, my copy editing eye has aged too much (started on manual typewriters).

December 13, 2018 10:29 am

It’s interesting that Cliff Mass understands many of the reasons for why ‘consensus’ science driven by ideological activists doesn’t work, yet he still accepts the IPCC as the legitimate arbiter of what is and what is not climate science.

Why is it so hard to accept the undeniable fact that the IPCC overestimates the effects of CO2 by such a wide margin that there’s absolutely no downside to CO2 emissions?

Steven Fraser
Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 13, 2018 10:37 am

co2: Write him and ask him, though your idea ‘yet he still accepts the IPCC…’ is not evident in the article. Ask him what specific research results are persuasive for him, and I think you’ll get an insightful answer.

Reply to  Steven Fraser
December 13, 2018 11:45 am

Way ahead of you.

Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 13, 2018 5:22 pm

let us know….

Marcus
December 13, 2018 10:31 am

Judith Curry ..

“Mass decided to be sensitive to the ‘feelings’ of thee (three?) activists and pulled the image”
(Let me know if you find “corrections” irritating and I won’t bother) : )

Great read !

December 13, 2018 10:31 am

My daughter was born in Washington and it actually used to be pretty conservative and practical. I am constantly suprized at the changes in attitude..not even respectful of a fellow academic who disagrees with them. Shame on the faculty..and shame on the ones who signed that document when they knew it was not right.

Steven Fraser
Reply to  Shelly
December 13, 2018 10:38 am

Sounds like a culture of fear, to me.

R Shearer
Reply to  Steven Fraser
December 13, 2018 1:18 pm

State of fear.

Jim Kress
Editor
Reply to  Shelly
December 13, 2018 1:11 pm

Contamination of the infected from California is a terrible plague that is occurring all along the West Coast and is moving East.

Louis Hooffstetter
Reply to  Jim Kress
December 13, 2018 5:36 pm

Like a type of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy that infects liberals.

ResourceGuy
December 13, 2018 10:37 am

This is sickening. When do the UW book burnings start? Let’s see some of the NSF funds that go into climate theater projects redirected into a play about climate witch hunts.

Marcus
Reply to  ResourceGuy
December 13, 2018 10:54 am

I think you mean “witch burning”, the “book burning” has already begun…

Reply to  Marcus
December 14, 2018 11:01 am

Book burning is so 1930s Germany. Now all it takes is mouse-clicks performing revisionism, censorship & deletion on the web.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
December 13, 2018 1:16 pm

“When do the UW book burnings start?”

I suspect that warmists have sucessfully attempted to have climate-skeptical books removed from public and academic libraries. I wonder if there’s been a study of this. At any rate, there could be a study of the ratio of warmist vs. skeptical book-holdings on the topic.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  ResourceGuy
December 13, 2018 1:33 pm

Wouldn’t “book burnings” run counter to their narrative?
Shouldn’t they be more into “book burying”?
That might require them to first dig a hole and expend more effort than they are willing .

Marcus
December 13, 2018 10:37 am

This is what happens when places of “higher education” concentrate on “safe spaces” and “51 genders” studies…IMHO .

Marcus
December 13, 2018 10:39 am

“A number of University of Washington graduate students have taken a vocal stance against Cliff Mass, particularly on twitter. ”

This should have been posted with last comment…grrrrrrrr.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Marcus
December 13, 2018 1:51 pm

Employers don’t like that sort of crap. I guess they will stay in academia or go on welfare. One and the same?

SteveC
December 13, 2018 10:45 am

Looks like another case of LOWER education. How sad.

SteveC
Reply to  SteveC
December 13, 2018 10:50 am

Or “low thinking” as Jordan Peterson described it.

ResourceGuy
December 13, 2018 10:48 am

Einstein faced similar isolation on campus and in the community in the run up to WW1 when his colleagues were resolutely going in the other direction, including his senior faculty member who invented the first chemical weapons for that war effort.

https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2015/ghodsee-einstein-pacifism

markl
December 13, 2018 10:50 am

Yet the state still voted down the carbon tax. Another example of a few activists controlling the narrative with a compliant MSM and getting nasty when people don’t agree. I’m surprised more people aren’t getting tired of the lame attacks by the thought police and doing something about it.

Thomas Graney
December 13, 2018 10:55 am

You cannot reason with a climate alarmist; there is not middle ground with them.

Derg
Reply to  Thomas Graney
December 13, 2018 11:29 am

Thomas you are 100% correct. You should see them on Reddit….yikes.

jim heath
December 13, 2018 10:56 am

Hundreds of millions of people have been taught Bulls##t. it will take years to re educate them, if ever.

Michael Spurrier
Reply to  jim heath
December 13, 2018 11:46 am

Its true here in Canada our son came home from his climate change module with a long list of stuff he had to learn for a test…..how much will sea level rise by 2050 if we don’t stop burning fossil fuels etc – they teach this as science.

Reply to  Michael Spurrier
December 13, 2018 1:14 pm

Michael Spurrier

He has a climate change module???!!!

kevin kilty
Reply to  HotScot
December 13, 2018 2:01 pm

Calm down. It doesn’t work.

Steven Fraser
Reply to  Michael Spurrier
December 13, 2018 4:47 pm

Michael Spurrier: a great opportunity for you to teach your son.

Reply to  jim heath
December 13, 2018 12:00 pm

A very public mea culpa from a prominent CAGW pusher like Gavin Schmidt would be sufficient.

Louis Hooffstetter
Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 13, 2018 5:41 pm

Gavin Schmidt admitting he’s wrong?!

When pigs fly.

ccscientist
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
December 14, 2018 9:01 am

Pigs? RAAAACIST!

Evidently we can never mention pigs again. Reminds me of the person who thought the accounting term “in the black” was racist (even though it means profitable).

Tom Halla
Reply to  ccscientist
December 14, 2018 9:05 am

How niggardly of you!

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 14, 2018 9:09 am

You beat me to it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/jan99/district27.htm?noredirect=on

Just to show you, this PC crap is ancient.

John Bell
December 13, 2018 10:58 am

The Left has become such shrill and angry bullies in places where they are able, I hate marxists, they deserve mass graves to put their rebellion down.

John Robertson
December 13, 2018 11:00 am

So?
CAGW is a cult.
The members are doing what cultists always do.
Buy Popcorn,as the meme collapses the destruction, devouring their own,will accelerate.
Cliff Mass will probably survive this witch hunt with his reputation enhanced, the raving madness of those who seek to banish him is pretty obvious.

The weak useless members of Academia are being exposed every day now,those who run with the pack on this madness will lose the most,those who stay silent from fear,will be forgotten.

What will be most interesting is the long term fallout,for having established the “Acceptable standard” for government financed Education and Scientific Institutions, they participants have made the case for abandoning both.
What is a Institutional degree worth today?
Tomorrow?

Al Miller
December 13, 2018 11:08 am

Wow, we really are on the verge of book burnings if we don’t fight against this incredible lunacy! Farenheit 451 is coming along with 1984! Let’s hope the yellow jacket movement breathes new life into the silent majority against these totalitarians.

TonyL
December 13, 2018 11:11 am

The Chair forced the faculty to sign a letter against their will. Sheer Lysenkoism.
It is here now and will only get worse unless it is recognized and actively stopped.
Others here have noted well that the big sin of Mass is that he was only 95% for The Cause, where nothing less than 100% will suffice.

Everybody remember the case of Lindsay Shepherd? A graduate student who had done nothing wrong was called out on the carpet for allegedly crossing some imaginary PC line. Shepard had the presence of mind to record the entire session and then posted it up on the internet for the world to see. What was meant to be a power play to intimidate Shepard blew up in everybody’s faces, from her supervising prof. all the way up to the university president.

We should all keep this in mind and keep a cheap little pocket recorder handy.

PaWi
Reply to  TonyL
December 13, 2018 12:21 pm

Tony L.: Thank you for mentioning Ms. Shepard! So relevant to this topic. She was completely gas-lighted by a gang-mentality driven University staff. It just continues to appear nothing but ideologic-gangs are running academia anymore.Debate is dead. Link https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/heres-the-full-recording-of-wilfrid-laurier-reprimanding-lindsay-shepherd-for-showing-a-jordan-peterson-video to Lindsay’s smoking-gun recording. She brought suit against Wilfrid Laurier University, and specific University employees.

At minute 15.30 or so, “Climate deniers” are brought up by her adversary Dr. Herbert Pimlott, Associate Professor Communication Studies, of Wilfrid Laurier University as an example of what she did “wrong”; in the context that climate deniers have no right to their position being heard about in the Universities as climate denial has no “academic credibility”.

This is such an interesting audio demonstrating how academic-bullying gangs operate. One professor actually tells Lindsay that the University’s job is to teach 18 year old students exactly how to think about certain beliefs by withholding opposing opinions from student classroom discussions!

A September 2018 update on this controversy can be found here: https://thefederalist.com/2018/12/06/heres-happened-canadian-run-off-campus-defending-speech/

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  PaWi
December 13, 2018 1:07 pm

Interesting stuff. Thank you for posting links.

Reply to  PaWi
December 13, 2018 1:21 pm

BTW, the Supreme Court just ruled that it’s OK to record governmental officials without their knowledge.

Reply to  Roger Knights
December 13, 2018 5:36 pm

had a client that (says he) accidentally left his recorder running when he, lawyer, and engineer left room full of regulator/bureaucrats to discuss a few items privately.

the stuff on the recording was disgusting (from a freedom and equal protection perspective). two (senior) out of five government employees talking about how it is reasonable to screw over a citizen because he has a lot and doesn’t (in their opinion) have to work for it; the three mid management of course taking direction from the two.

(though, supreme court decision probably was based on recording conversations that you are a part of:))

December 13, 2018 11:22 am

Is tossing a suspected witch into a pond considered an act of water pollution these days? Or is that the one exception now?

And one more time:

NO extreme trends in hurricanes.
NO extreme trend in tornadoes.
NO extreme trend in droughts.
NO extreme trend in snowfall.
NO extreme trend in wildfires.

The extreme is in the extreme proliferation of false information contrary to the facts.

December 13, 2018 11:29 am

If you demonstrate an unwillingness to lie for The Cause, then you are unreliable, problematic, and must be purged. Has it not always been thus?

Komrade Kuma
December 13, 2018 11:29 am

CAGW is the MSM gift that just keeps on giving. Hurl abuse at someone the shove the camera/focus in their face and closely watch them squirm. Its a vicious game of confected content for which the CAGWarmists are just useful idiots. As others have noted such attention seeking grubs have always been with us, ‘outing’ targets as ‘witches’ or ‘reactionaries’ or ‘pagans’ or ‘infidels’.

The whole thing is getting more shrill and alarmist as reality starts to bite, as energy rpices soar, as reliability plummets, as more countries just give lip service to the IPCC and all its gormless acolytes and people like TRump just give it the finger.

ChrisB
December 13, 2018 11:29 am

It is always the case- one bully takes over, silences the critics one by one. Bully becomes evil and disaster strikes all.

The remedy towards pease is simple but rarely observed- punch the bully where it hurts. Unfortunately, our system of governance gives more credence to bullies, because they gain power, than bullied.

Poor Cliff Mass, he will be crushed.

harry
December 13, 2018 11:30 am

As a person who firmly believes in experimentally supported science I am fully behind the conservation of Mass!

Ted Getzel
Reply to  harry
December 13, 2018 5:37 pm

+1000

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