Guest short note by David Middleton
COMMENT 05 DECEMBER 2018
Global warming will happen faster than we think
Three trends will combine to hasten it, warn Yangyang Xu, Veerabhadran Ramanathan and David G. Victor.
If anyone cares to read what Yangyang Xu, Veerabhadran Ramanathan and David G. Victor have to say about this… Click here.
If anyone desires more comparisons of predcitions and models, let me know in the comments section.
Scenario C has humans undiscovering fire in 1999.
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Alice ? Is that you ?
Oh, come on. It sounds perfectly kosher to me. All the apples we’ve plucked from the Climate Predictions and Models barrel so far have been rotten worm farms. So it stands to reason that the ones further down must be 24-carat, extra-delicious fruity gold.
… in Wonderland?
“For, you see, so many out of the ordinary things had happened lately, that ‘climate scientists’ have begun to think that very few things indeed were really impossible.”
GovMints get what GovMints wants. This is what happens when you mix Science with Government Graft, I mean Grants. You get Anti-Science, I mean Climate Science.
A little higher now than 1930’s? I’m not so sure.
Well if you adjust the Data just so it is. I wish that kind of magic worked on my bank account but the bank won’t count monopoly money just because I pretend it’s real.
I thought you only had to squint real hard and tilt your head to the Left to see the world is going to Helena Handbasket. Or is that close your eyes real tight, stick your fingers in your ears, sing neener neener neener…neener neener neener… and vote left.
Philip it does work on bank accounts, the problem is such adjustments to bank accounts tend to get the adjuster sentenced to prison for fraud.
Counting Monopoly money? Ah! But South Africa had a bank that did precisely that! VBS Mutual bank ‘invented’ lots of deposits to keep its KPMG auditors happy, while busily stealing 1.8 billion Rand of REAL money from the REAL depositors! Lots of municipalities are now trying to get their money back after the bank imploded.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/11/17/will-the-snowiest-decade-continue/#comment-2521702
[excerpt]
Fair warning:
I’m calling down another very hard winter on the US Northeast, extending up into Canada.
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MY “COLD WEATHER CURSE” IS WORKING! BETTER THAN I IMAGINED.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1970337443043808&set=a.1012901982120697&type=3&theater
Cue Twilight Zone music…
[ I suppose I have to say “sarc/off”.]
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and it’s Global Warming again!
+42 x 1042 for Beatles White Album reference!
That’s 42 Tredecillion
now there is something about that number…
Helter Swelter, as it were.
You win the internet for today with that one, Helter Swelter indeed.
Helter Skelter!
I prefer Helter Swelter it has a perfect sounding rounding error to it…an IPCC Mann made ride.
You also collect $200 every time you make a turn, allowing you to buy properties on “Old Gent Road”
That’s what they think.
Mind you, it is based upon natural variability and less air pollution as well as our CO2 contributions. I am sure we could pollute the air more if we put our minds to it.
Its very easy to understand this graphical information in Australia because we are upside down.
It’s the Mann Fishing Rod.
I guess we should be happy that these guys aren’t politicians, or engineers, or anybody important.
Greg
Must be important! They got published in Nature. (/s)
I used to be published in Nature but I gave up on nudity when the changing climate, affected my exposed extremities adversely. I am surprised the magazine is still being published…?
Any one for tennis,…. or perhaps hockey?
The corresponding author is a professor of international relations. Nuff said.
Nature (journal) is still looking for new lows in climate science.
When I was in elementary school, my third grade teacher told the class that the earth was in a inter-glacial period. The science at the time indicated we were still in a warming period. ‘ Science closed.’ Nothing has changed that statement, in my observation, during the next 64 years. It is not the burning of fossils, and the like that may create an unbreathable atmosphere. Everyone ignores the fact that there are billions more creatures breathing this air. The one and only, absolute solution would be to eliminate 75% of the population.
Some of the world is working toward a cleaner, healthier, earth. Don’t blame anyone for what has already happened, if the climate is damaged. Just support new technology that will make a better world in the future, even if it takes a couple hundred years. If the earth succumbs on it’s own fumes someday. THAN, we can blame Mother Nature with our last breath.
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My best guess is that Ron doesn’t realize that plants are making more oxygen all the time.
” The one and only, absolute solution would be to eliminate 75% of the population.”
I’m more worried about whether or not Ron owns firearms or weapons of mass destruction, and where he lives …..
An observation of logic should not bother an intelligent person.
Logic? You haven’t presented any evidence that you have any familiarity with that concept.
But we’re talking about your “observation” here.
An observation of logic should not bother an intelligent person
and neither does the gish gallop you posted bother an intelligent person. Indeed an intelligent person realizes that people ridiculing nonsense is in no way a sign of them being bothered by said nonsense. A not so-intelligent person, on the other hand, assumes that anyone who doesn’t agree with them are “bothered by” what they had to say and thus are somehow not “an intelligent person”.
if he has a busted calculator would running an AlGoreithm on that count as a Weapon of Maths Destruction?
Haha! What with Helter Swelter above, it’s a punntastic day on WUWT.
I heard Jeremy Corbyn’s brother Piers say that global warming was a WMT – weapon of mass taxation.
Let’s hope Ron doesn’t get a hold of all five infinity gems. At least Thanos only wanted to wipe out 50% of the population.
The one and only, absolute solution would be to eliminate 75% of the population
When you watched Avenger Infinity War, you thought Thanos was the hero of the piece, didn’t you? Though he obviously didn’t go far enough in your book, what with only stopping at 50% of the population.
It is the nature of experts to never, never, ever, admit being wrong. They have a panoply of excuses to explain why they weren’t wrong.
One of the standard excuses is that they were right about the events, and just off by timing. I think that’s what’s going on here.
commieBob
From your article, I think it’s fundamentally politicians predisposition for narcissism.
As someone once said, the politicians we want are the ones that don’t promote themselves for the job……something like that.
The one I’ve stuck to my whole life:
The ones who want the job, are the ones who should not get the job.
Their luck has to turn around sometime.
I am surprised none have commented on the cutoff date of the graph.
It seems to be current (for a 5yr moving average, centered)
No Nick, not the current global temperature which is far below the line. They NEED to keep including the super El Nino noise and pretend it is climate. Otherwise, the entire chart falls apart.
This is how you can tell real science from pseudo-science. A real scientist would NEVER include massive noise in a chart meant to inform the reader.
Looks like the cutoff is around April 5,2063. First contact. The Vulcans will save us from global warming. I feel much safer now.
Bullshit.
We know what impact CO2 is going to have, the sacred models have spoken and they are never wrong.
The fact that the real world hasn’t kept up with what we know is going to happen just means that some time soon heating is going to have to increase dramatically in order to get the earth back to where the sacred models say it should be.
Be warned.
Is that the latest GISS? I haven’t been paying much attention this last year or so but I guess all those incremental changes they keep making to the temperature record really start to add up after a while because I no longer recognise the shape of the curve.
Here’s the 21st century Hadcrut4 global temperature which shows what liars we have at Nature.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2001/to/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2001/to:2014/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2014/to:2016/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2016/to/trend
Whichever graph this one is, it will be a new one which we do not recognise as the past is being continually cooled and the present is being adjusted up. As the communists know, only the future is certain, the past is constantly changing.
He has missed to mention the third trend- the great scam is exposed, grant money is running out.
DMiddleton: Did you mean “predilections”?
I can’t help but remember a believer’s comment (in 2014 or so) that CO2 warming is like stepping on an auto accelerator and having the engine hesitate a moment and then race wildly. Still waiting… maybe there’s a misadjustment somewhere?
Tank is empty.
So… their metaphor for CO2 driven warming is a badly configured engine?
Sounds to me that even to a Warmist CO2 can’t even warm properly. Get your act together CO2! The lives of the thousands of freezing depend on it!
It would be more accurate analogy to say the engine raced wildly, then 800 years later the accelerator was pressed. Thus sayeth CAGW theory.
I think it’s more like the car accelerated, that caused the driver’s foot to push down on the accelerator, which caused the car to accelerate wildly until it was out of control.
The stopping mechanism while accelerating wildly with the accelerator to the floor is a little murky, however….
Zig Zag Wanderer
In motorcycle terms it’s something like dropping the clutch at full chat, flipping the bike over backwards and skidding down the road on their arse.
When they say “A Good Chance,” Read, “We actually have no idea, but this MIGHT happen.”
OK, that is five minutes of my life I will never get back…
When they say “A Good Chance,” Read, “We actually have no idea, but this MIGHT happen.”
OK, that is five minutes of my life I will never get back…
a little strange when I get the Duplicate Comment thing, and then the site freezes up. I will try one more time, hoping that this time it is not a Duplicate Comment
“This dark news means that the next 25 years are poised to warm at a rate of 0.25–0.32 °C per decade3.”
… based on models which overpredicted warming by 2x.
“That is faster than the 0.2 °C per decade that we have experienced since the 2000s, and which the IPCC used in its special report.”
The actual number is half that. The report is lying. Shocking they let this falsehood in a Nature article.
This isn’t hard to understand, but I will translate the article for you
Hello, I am a climate enthusiast using “scientist” as a way to get money out of people.
I need a new computer, a good pair of black dress shoes, a suit to go with them so that when I give a speech I look good. I also like flying on a private charted jet and living high on the hog.
This all costs money, so send me all the money you have and I will send you some benedictions – er, uh, thank you notes, and get on with cranking out my next bit of alarming gibberish.
“If anyone desires more comparisons of predcitions and models”
Another way to make those comparisons.
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/09/08/climate-change-theory-vs-data/
IPCC time again!
Note that just about all of these models start from the cool period of the 1970 tees. But we can go back to the very hot 1930 tees, then run their models from their.
We can also go back to the MWP time and see how the models do from there. And let us not forget the very long warming period of the Romans, and while it was warm they expanded their empire. And before them it was the Minion period, yet another time of warm is good.
Just how long can this fairy tale continue.
Problem seems to be that the Politicians like to have something to frighten us s with, and the Media, a monster these days, likes bad things to write or talk about .
Couple that with the likes of the World Bank refusing to help in developing Africa’s fossal l fuels, and we have a situation which will result in starvation and War.
MJE