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Michael Anderson
December 9, 2018 9:44 am
Well, you know: it’s the CBC. Being journalists, like almost all journalists, they have two agendas, the former being far more central to their work than the latter:
1) generate ad revenue through incessant despair-mongering, which the gullible try to cure with retail therapy.
2) promote the dismantling of western civilization, because it’s evil. Herr Marx taught them that in journalism school.
I’ve actually come up with a new conspiracy theory, which I invite all to disseminate any way and anywhere they want; here goes:
What the left really hopes to achieve through climate hysteria is the utter destruction of the Arab oil states and the return of millions of prosperous human beings to crushing poverty, because to them the only good Arab is a destitute one. Arabs as victims are marketable, but rich, successful Arabs are inherently a bad thing even though they may be both Muslim and have enhanced melanin, which would normally trump everything else.
Hmm, now I put it in print it doesn’t really look like a conspiracy theory, does it? Because that’s exactly what WILL happen if they achieve their aims. Funny how that never, ever gets mentioned…
Jon Scott
December 9, 2018 9:47 am
Exactly what form of “science” needs to be invoke to link vulcanism and climate change and especially climate change associated with a nonsense averaged level of 2-3 degrees C? Social science perhaps because the narrator does a lot of “worrying”. Pathetic!
Toto
December 9, 2018 10:13 am
For those who would rather have links to papers or at least texts, I have found these.
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/mount-meager-eruption-risk
Warning signs emerge from the shrinking glacier atop B.C.’s Mount Meager
“Mount Meager, he believes, is cracking, collapsing and potentially threatening the safety of people who live in the region.”
“The team is researching not only the gases and the expansion of the fumaroles, it is also measuring the speed of the glacier’s retreat and the potential for a landslide, which could trigger an eruption.”
Less ice means more landslides, which then could trigger an eruption.
“”It is very likely this slope will fail very soon”
https://www.vancourier.com/news/receding-glaciers-make-pemberton-area-mount-meager-volcano-less-stable-than-ever-before-1.23432759
Receding glaciers make Pemberton-area Mount Meager volcano less stable than ever before
Hazards from landslides are higher than hazards from eruption as steam and gas emerge
“”The (glaciers) are melting. The trend is retreating … When you remove the ice (from a slope), you’re removing a protective layer. You see an increase of landslide and rockfall. For the 2010 landslide, the glacier was retreating. The slope failed during the hot summer. Water was coming from the melting ice, it was entering the slope through the cracks, (and) fracturing the rock. You can imagine a sandcastle on the beach and the sand is too wet—the castle won’t stay up. When you add water, the castle goes down, collapses,” Roberti says.”
https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/eprint/77920/1/2012_HuggelCH_clague_cc_high_mountains_rev_argentina12_Kopie_.pdf
Climate change and hazardous processes in high mountains
This one is a real paper instead of a news report. It’s by a different group. The lead author is from SFU.
“Loss of ice cover in heavily glacierized areas, especially northwest North America, Iceland, Greenland, and Antarctica, may induce seismicity or volcanic eruptions.”
Conclusion: The scientists do make a case that it could possibly happen and are not just alarmists. Unlike the journalists.
I think that those SFU scientists need to devote a little more of their time to finding a better acronym. It would probably be a more productive use of it.
Actually the video is not about climate change at all. Somebody back in the studio couldn’t resist trying for more clicks. I expect the videographers got a free chopper ride as long as they put in a plea for more geo-funding. Plus a stop at Whistler, a super ski resort about half way from Vancouver to Mt. Meager, for lunch. As CBC goes, this is pretty good stuff.
ScienceABC123
December 9, 2018 10:14 am
At some point someone is going to claim climate change is causing people to become dumber. Now that one I might believe…
Trust me some sections of science have contracted the disease from Climate Science. I would like to say this is the dumbest thing I have seen in science this week but you would be hard pressed to beat Sabine Hossenfelder effort this week on LHC discussion on next generation collider which saw her inducted into the advanced physics forum crackpot list.
tty
December 9, 2018 10:22 am
This has actually been studied in Iceland and it seems pretty definite that volcanic activity increases significantly at the end of an ice-age. Not surprising really. Removing a couple of kilometers of ice on top seems quite likely to make it easier for magma to emerge.
But things are never as simple as they might seem. There are also volcanoes in Iceland that only seem to erupt during ice ages and become dormant during interglacials.
TomRude
December 9, 2018 10:45 am
As usual when a threat is real -landslide-, there is little money available… But when sea level would have to climb hundred times the last 100 years rate to come close to the alarmist prediction pushed by SFU, UBC, there is plenty of agitprop money for those from green mongering fake charity based outfits, thanks to complicit levels of government.
nc
December 9, 2018 11:25 am
The CBC is taxpayer funded and very pro liberal. The prime minister Trudeau 2.0 is pushing a carbon tax so the CBC has ramped up to daily reporting some “climate change” related subject. When the conservatives had government they cut some funding to CBC so during the election CBC went all in against the conservative government and the then conservative Prime Minister, Harper.
Here is the fix now, along with pushing a carbon tax to make himself look good to the useless UN and with an election coming up in about a year the elitist Trudeau is giving 500 million to a struggling MSM. A supposedly neutral collection of individuals will dole out the money, now what could go wrong with that!
The CBC got another big pay-off. I think you can expect to see a lot more global warming doom and gloom in the Canadian news, to support the Liberal government’s climate policies.
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Hephaestus, the fatherless Olympian God, should be advised to get his un-burnable self back down in the volcanoes to take advantage of this developing situation.
John F. Hultquist
December 9, 2018 12:23 pm
I live in the great Left State of Washington and do not understand why global warming can’t wake up our own Cascadian volcanoes, like Mount St. Helens.
Moderately Cross of East Anglia
December 9, 2018 12:29 pm
Perhaps we should have a posting on which is more deceitful or pathetic – CBC or the BBC?
I suspect it would be a close run thing, but the BBC played a real ace on radio yesterday when it claimed rising CO2 levels were making people more stupid!
Perhaps it is from all those volcanoes? Or is it just human produced CO2 that could possibly have this effect?
I’m just waiting for the follow up study to feminist glaciology that tells us that volcanology is permeated by masculine colonialist distortion and we need to understand the feminist nature of volcanic and tectonic activity. Oh wait…
John G
December 9, 2018 12:49 pm
Vulcanism causes climate change. Re. Pangea, the volcanoes on the Russian steps that changed the climate from something similar to todays climate into something deadly to most life. It’s hard to imagine that climate change of the sort we experience causes volcanoes.
Centrsl Siberia where the volcanoes were is forest, not steppe.
ResourceGuy
December 9, 2018 1:06 pm
But it will not wake up liberals on a policy mission of power and wealth (slush fund).
Rex Malott
December 9, 2018 1:11 pm
I agree the CBC piece is mere froth, particularly the comment about gases “weakening the rock overlay.” But I raise timber not far from this area and perhaps should include volcanic eruption probability in my harvest scheduling calculations.
One thing I would add from my own personal experience is the eruption pattern of a proximate volcano, Mt St Helens. I climbed it many times in the 70’s and loved to go up the Forsyth Glacier route on the NW side, as it had magnificent seracs and crevasses. There was no question that the glacier ice, unlike the gases, had indeed weakened the mountain. In fact, when St Helens exploded the fracture path perfectly followed the Forsyth route.
One other thing is that almost all of these big NW volcanoes have fumaroles and gas vents. That’s what they do because they are, ahem, volcanoes. So as a modest suggestion I would propose you all send me money so I can convert these mountains into all electric mountains.
There has not been a volcanic eruption in Australia for about six thousand years. The last eruption in Australia was at Mount Gambier, a shield volcano in the ‘Newer Volcanic Province’ in Victoria Australia, which is made up of four shield volcanoes and associated vents: Red Rock, Mt. Napier, Mount Schank, and Mount Gambier. They last erupted between about 5850 and 2900 B.C. The eruptions were explosive and some generated lava flows. The Folks in Mount Gambier will obviously have to be on the alert if any Global Warming – Climate Change is ever noticed there.
Weirder by the minute.
Well I doubt that Climate Change will wake up volcanoes,the reverse might be possible.
However it is possible that the imposition of a carbon tax,will wake up Canadians..
Even my eastern comrades do not seems so stupid to accept “a tax on pollution” from the lisping nitwit..
Time will tell.
But Chem-trails will overwhelm HAARP.
Usually in a jiffy.
Scott W Bennett
December 10, 2018 3:09 am
Could have, should have, would have.
Hang on! So climate change could cause volcanic eruptions that could cause climate change? That could be a real problem if volcanoes could warm the earth but they could only do that in the past, now all they could do is cool the atmosphere; apparently!
E.S.
December 10, 2018 10:05 am
Newly discovered cave in B.C. might be largest ever found in Canada.
“We’re finding these types of caves — we call it a striped karst.Caves have “great scientific value,” Yonge added, in dateable deposits that contain glacial climate information.” They’re natural underground laboratories,” he said. “The problem with the glacial scenery is that the glaciers tend to scrape away any information, so you get lots of information about the last glaciation, but then the prior, say four global glaciations, that information is very hard to determine. But caves actually protect those earlier glacial sediments.”
Well, you know: it’s the CBC. Being journalists, like almost all journalists, they have two agendas, the former being far more central to their work than the latter:
1) generate ad revenue through incessant despair-mongering, which the gullible try to cure with retail therapy.
2) promote the dismantling of western civilization, because it’s evil. Herr Marx taught them that in journalism school.
I’ve actually come up with a new conspiracy theory, which I invite all to disseminate any way and anywhere they want; here goes:
What the left really hopes to achieve through climate hysteria is the utter destruction of the Arab oil states and the return of millions of prosperous human beings to crushing poverty, because to them the only good Arab is a destitute one. Arabs as victims are marketable, but rich, successful Arabs are inherently a bad thing even though they may be both Muslim and have enhanced melanin, which would normally trump everything else.
Hmm, now I put it in print it doesn’t really look like a conspiracy theory, does it? Because that’s exactly what WILL happen if they achieve their aims. Funny how that never, ever gets mentioned…
Exactly what form of “science” needs to be invoke to link vulcanism and climate change and especially climate change associated with a nonsense averaged level of 2-3 degrees C? Social science perhaps because the narrator does a lot of “worrying”. Pathetic!
For those who would rather have links to papers or at least texts, I have found these.
https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/2018/11/sfu-scientists-study-links-between-climate–landslides-and-volca.html
SFU scientists study links between climate, landslides and volcanic eruptions
“global warming is increasing the chances of a major landslide and a possible eruption at Mount Meager volcano”
They are obliged to mention global warming, but their real concern is landslides.
“This big massive mountain is rotten”
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/mount-meager-eruption-risk
Warning signs emerge from the shrinking glacier atop B.C.’s Mount Meager
“Mount Meager, he believes, is cracking, collapsing and potentially threatening the safety of people who live in the region.”
“The team is researching not only the gases and the expansion of the fumaroles, it is also measuring the speed of the glacier’s retreat and the potential for a landslide, which could trigger an eruption.”
Less ice means more landslides, which then could trigger an eruption.
“”It is very likely this slope will fail very soon”
https://www.vancourier.com/news/receding-glaciers-make-pemberton-area-mount-meager-volcano-less-stable-than-ever-before-1.23432759
Receding glaciers make Pemberton-area Mount Meager volcano less stable than ever before
Hazards from landslides are higher than hazards from eruption as steam and gas emerge
“”The (glaciers) are melting. The trend is retreating … When you remove the ice (from a slope), you’re removing a protective layer. You see an increase of landslide and rockfall. For the 2010 landslide, the glacier was retreating. The slope failed during the hot summer. Water was coming from the melting ice, it was entering the slope through the cracks, (and) fracturing the rock. You can imagine a sandcastle on the beach and the sand is too wet—the castle won’t stay up. When you add water, the castle goes down, collapses,” Roberti says.”
https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/eprint/77920/1/2012_HuggelCH_clague_cc_high_mountains_rev_argentina12_Kopie_.pdf
Climate change and hazardous processes in high mountains
This one is a real paper instead of a news report. It’s by a different group. The lead author is from SFU.
“Loss of ice cover in heavily glacierized areas, especially northwest North America, Iceland, Greenland, and Antarctica, may induce seismicity or volcanic eruptions.”
Conclusion: The scientists do make a case that it could possibly happen and are not just alarmists. Unlike the journalists.
I think that those SFU scientists need to devote a little more of their time to finding a better acronym. It would probably be a more productive use of it.
Actually the video is not about climate change at all. Somebody back in the studio couldn’t resist trying for more clicks. I expect the videographers got a free chopper ride as long as they put in a plea for more geo-funding. Plus a stop at Whistler, a super ski resort about half way from Vancouver to Mt. Meager, for lunch. As CBC goes, this is pretty good stuff.
At some point someone is going to claim climate change is causing people to become dumber. Now that one I might believe…
I would say it’s more likely corrupt left wing outfits like the CBC that have caused that.
Trust me some sections of science have contracted the disease from Climate Science. I would like to say this is the dumbest thing I have seen in science this week but you would be hard pressed to beat Sabine Hossenfelder effort this week on LHC discussion on next generation collider which saw her inducted into the advanced physics forum crackpot list.
This has actually been studied in Iceland and it seems pretty definite that volcanic activity increases significantly at the end of an ice-age. Not surprising really. Removing a couple of kilometers of ice on top seems quite likely to make it easier for magma to emerge.
But things are never as simple as they might seem. There are also volcanoes in Iceland that only seem to erupt during ice ages and become dormant during interglacials.
As usual when a threat is real -landslide-, there is little money available… But when sea level would have to climb hundred times the last 100 years rate to come close to the alarmist prediction pushed by SFU, UBC, there is plenty of agitprop money for those from green mongering fake charity based outfits, thanks to complicit levels of government.
The CBC is taxpayer funded and very pro liberal. The prime minister Trudeau 2.0 is pushing a carbon tax so the CBC has ramped up to daily reporting some “climate change” related subject. When the conservatives had government they cut some funding to CBC so during the election CBC went all in against the conservative government and the then conservative Prime Minister, Harper.
Here is the fix now, along with pushing a carbon tax to make himself look good to the useless UN and with an election coming up in about a year the elitist Trudeau is giving 500 million to a struggling MSM. A supposedly neutral collection of individuals will dole out the money, now what could go wrong with that!
The CBC got another big pay-off. I think you can expect to see a lot more global warming doom and gloom in the Canadian news, to support the Liberal government’s climate policies.
——————————————
Liberals’ $600M aid package for news media will irrevocably politicize the press
I don’t actually think the government will appoint a group of card-carrying Liberal hacks to this ‘independent panel.’ They won’t need to
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-liberals-600m-aid-package-for-news-media-will-irrevocably-politicize-the-press
The Liberal government’s meddling in media independence has just begun
Arm’s-length and independent of the government? Hardly. In fact, the proposals are a step backward for Canadian journalism
https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-liberal-governments-meddling-in-media-independence-has-just-begun
Hephaestus, the fatherless Olympian God, should be advised to get his un-burnable self back down in the volcanoes to take advantage of this developing situation.
I live in the great Left State of Washington and do not understand why global warming can’t wake up our own Cascadian volcanoes, like Mount St. Helens.
Perhaps we should have a posting on which is more deceitful or pathetic – CBC or the BBC?
I suspect it would be a close run thing, but the BBC played a real ace on radio yesterday when it claimed rising CO2 levels were making people more stupid!
Perhaps it is from all those volcanoes? Or is it just human produced CO2 that could possibly have this effect?
I’m just waiting for the follow up study to feminist glaciology that tells us that volcanology is permeated by masculine colonialist distortion and we need to understand the feminist nature of volcanic and tectonic activity. Oh wait…
Vulcanism causes climate change. Re. Pangea, the volcanoes on the Russian steps that changed the climate from something similar to todays climate into something deadly to most life. It’s hard to imagine that climate change of the sort we experience causes volcanoes.
Steppes
Centrsl Siberia where the volcanoes were is forest, not steppe.
But it will not wake up liberals on a policy mission of power and wealth (slush fund).
I agree the CBC piece is mere froth, particularly the comment about gases “weakening the rock overlay.” But I raise timber not far from this area and perhaps should include volcanic eruption probability in my harvest scheduling calculations.
One thing I would add from my own personal experience is the eruption pattern of a proximate volcano, Mt St Helens. I climbed it many times in the 70’s and loved to go up the Forsyth Glacier route on the NW side, as it had magnificent seracs and crevasses. There was no question that the glacier ice, unlike the gases, had indeed weakened the mountain. In fact, when St Helens exploded the fracture path perfectly followed the Forsyth route.
One other thing is that almost all of these big NW volcanoes have fumaroles and gas vents. That’s what they do because they are, ahem, volcanoes. So as a modest suggestion I would propose you all send me money so I can convert these mountains into all electric mountains.
There has not been a volcanic eruption in Australia for about six thousand years. The last eruption in Australia was at Mount Gambier, a shield volcano in the ‘Newer Volcanic Province’ in Victoria Australia, which is made up of four shield volcanoes and associated vents: Red Rock, Mt. Napier, Mount Schank, and Mount Gambier. They last erupted between about 5850 and 2900 B.C. The eruptions were explosive and some generated lava flows. The Folks in Mount Gambier will obviously have to be on the alert if any Global Warming – Climate Change is ever noticed there.
Here in Australia, the governed owned, but left controlled broadcaster, the ABC is close behind the BBC and the CBC too.
So why does the left wing support the concept of climate change, is it just the cover r for their goal of “World Government via the UN” ?
MJE.
I see that thousands of climate scientists concur that climate change is what is causing the lack of sunspots.
Like it did the Eyjafjallajoekull back in 2010?
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/05/21/global-warming-causes-volcanic-eruption-2010/
Weirder by the minute.
Well I doubt that Climate Change will wake up volcanoes,the reverse might be possible.
However it is possible that the imposition of a carbon tax,will wake up Canadians..
Even my eastern comrades do not seems so stupid to accept “a tax on pollution” from the lisping nitwit..
Time will tell.
PM Trudeau is the Golden Boy of globalism and the climate change fraud. Many more manufactured dramas ahead.. fires and volcanoes and floods, oh my…
http://presscore.ca/haarp-electromagnetic-waves-can-be-used-to-stimulate-geophysical-events-such-as-earthquakes-climate-change-volcanic-eruptions-and-the-like
HAARP electromagnetic waves can be used to stimulate geophysical events such as earthquakes, climate change, volcanic eruptions and the like.
Buy a freaking drone.
But Chem-trails will overwhelm HAARP.
Usually in a jiffy.
Could have, should have, would have.
Hang on! So climate change could cause volcanic eruptions that could cause climate change? That could be a real problem if volcanoes could warm the earth but they could only do that in the past, now all they could do is cool the atmosphere; apparently!
Newly discovered cave in B.C. might be largest ever found in Canada.
“We’re finding these types of caves — we call it a striped karst.Caves have “great scientific value,” Yonge added, in dateable deposits that contain glacial climate information.” They’re natural underground laboratories,” he said. “The problem with the glacial scenery is that the glaciers tend to scrape away any information, so you get lots of information about the last glaciation, but then the prior, say four global glaciations, that information is very hard to determine. But caves actually protect those earlier glacial sediments.”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-cave-bc-canadas-biggest-cave-1.4929918
https://calgarysun.com/news/local-news/local-geologist-among-experts-studying-massive-b-c-cave/wcm/ea612a7d-4d2c-4cdf-a91d-cd53962f5e1d