UK Secretary of State Michael Gove Announces Climate Cash Giveaways, Quotes WWF Report

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Providing billions of pounds of cash to fund climate projects in poor countries is still a priority for the British Government, despite distracting local problems like dangerous failures in Britain’s broken healthcare system, or the urgent need to recruit more police to try to contain Britain’s wildly escalating violent crime epidemic.

Michael Gove Speech on UK Climate Change Projections

Secretary of State, Michael Gove, gives speech on UK Climate Change Projections

Published 26 November 2018
Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Michael Gove MP

NO SUCH THING AS TOO MUCH INFORMATION – THE SCIENCE AND POLITICS OF CLIMATE CHANGE
WHAT WE OWE TO SCIENTISTS

I want to begin on a personal note. I am fortunate as Secretary of State for the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs to work alongside some of the most gifted, dedicated and impressive public servants in the country.

THE EVIDENCE ALL AROUND US

Today, as we launch the fourth generation of our UK Climate Projections, it is clear that the planet and its weather patterns are changing before our eyes.

Sea levels, for example – which we are becoming more accurate at measuring, thanks to advances in instruments and monitoring systems. In the 20th century the oceans rose around 15cm and the rate of increase has since quickened. Just since 2000, levels have risen around six centimetres, based on a global-average rise of 3.2mm a year. Our seas are storing increasing amounts of heat: around half of all ocean warming has occurred since 1997. Even as we take action to slow carbon dioxide pollution now, physics dictates that the climate will keep heating up for decades to come.

Peer-reviewed scientific research states that the rapid warming is substantially due to the methane, nitrous oxide, and fossil fuel emissions we produce.

The great ice sheets of Greenland and some parts of Antarctica are increasingly unstable. Rising seas are rendering the storm surges not only of hurricanes but also regular high tides more of a threat.

Science is clear that there will be changes in ecosystems caused by the climate. WWF’s recent Living Planet report revealed a 60% fall in global wildlife populations in just over 40 years. One of the main causes of this devastating decline is climate change.

We cannot predict the net effects to ecosystems, but the likelihood is that many will be negative. Some native flora and fauna will struggle. Marine ecosystems will experience warmer and more acidic seas. New pests and diseases could thrive. Deteriorating soil quality and moisture, coupled with less reliable water supply, will reduce agricultural yields, as we have already seen this summer.

And while climate change cannot be blamed for growing wealth inequality, it is the case that it disproportionately affects nations with the least resources to cope – nations which have also contributed least to emissions in the first place. In the coming years, they will expect the developed world to deliver what Mary Robinson, the former Irish president and environmental campaigner, calls ‘climate justice’ – sharing fairly the burdens and benefits of climate change and its impacts.

The government has committed nearly £6 billion of funding between 2016 and 2020 to help developing countries both reduce emissions and build resilience to the impacts of climate change. Defra is spending part of this and my department, working with DFID, BEIS and the FCO, is prioritising projects and activities that can deliver benefits for sustainable development, poverty alleviation, and biodiversity, as well as climate mitigation and climate adaptation.

An example of this is mangrove conservation and restoration. Mangroves are important habitats for a variety of important species. They are vital nurseries for many key commercial fisheries thereby supporting livelihoods. They sequester carbon emissions contributing to climate mitigation and do so up to six times as much as some tropical forests. And they reduce the impacts of climate change, by absorbing the energy of storms, hurricanes, and typhoons that will increase in frequency and severity as a result of climate change. This is essential for managing climate impacts facing coastal communities across the tropics.

Many of these mangroves have been degraded and do not provide the full range of potential benefits. That is why I am today announcing an additional £13 million to fund mangroves restoration. This will support projects in small island developing states like Jamaica and those with high rates of deforestation like Colombia. We plan to scale funding to mangrove and other win-win nature-based solutions in the future.

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/michael-gove-speech-on-uk-climate-change-projections

I guess the speech provides reassurance for anyone who was worried Brexit might reduce Britain’s focus on flinging money at climate causes.

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Patrick MJD
November 26, 2018 8:58 pm

Why is it that people like this who propose and support crazy ideas and policies actually look crazy?!

David Wells
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 27, 2018 12:16 pm

It is freakishly unnerving. I often make the same comment about actors. Someone writes a book or a script and strangely enough they find someone who resembles the idiot described in the book it really is very worrying. All day today we are being beaten around the head by the BBC and most of the media saying that unless we abandon all 32 billion livestock animals, abolish fossil fuels UK summer weather by 2070 will be 5C higher than today and sea levels surround the UK will be 3 or 4 feet higher.

An actress called Lily Cole authored an article in the Times saying she prays every single day to get to zero carbon to save the planet. Gove like Prince Charles apparently can squint and fart whilst peering through a crack in the curtains and detect climate change. I phoned Lily Coles Climate Coalition and asked if Lily understood the 2nd law of thermodynamics just for a laugh and then pure silence some agitation and a reluctance to say no. I pushed to conversation and eventually go to asking giving the option would you prefer the minus 60C of the last ice age or a slight difference in the gradient between your head and your feet because the next ice age is long overdue. Again hesitation and indignation of being put on the spot.

She sort of walk around that issue so I asked if she would prefer fracking for shale gas to harpooning sperm whales for oil to light the streets at night. OMG. I am really too busy for this I have to go and the phone was put down. I phoned back got someone else and asked the same questions the response we want clean energy renewables, but they only work some of the time, response batteries but no battery will hold charge for 7 months as in 2017 when our 20GW’s of wind struggled to generate even 1GW/hr on a regular basis. The phone was slammed down.

I do this quite often but the mere mention of satellite data or sperm whales versus fracking and the indignance and frustration is epic. Today I was told twice – implying that it was me who was an ignorant fool – to read the information on their website and take it for granted that what they say is guaranteed correct when all they do is parrot the infernal gibberish parrot by every alarmist freak on the planet.

Living in the UK with all of this idiocy is extremely painful and government like toady Govey just refuse to listen to even a modicum of common sense. Perry wants to pump neat hydrogen into 4 million homes at cost of £23 billion when she knows that if you burn one tonne of methane directly you emit 2.5 tons of Co2. But if you “convert” times euphemism for steam reformation of methane to generate hydrogen you need to burn 3 tonnes of methane to get one tonne of high purity hydrogen which will emit 12.5 tons of Co2.

Now bear in mind we have already spent £400 billion on being green in the UK to mitigate a tea spoon full of the 1.2% of Co2 the UK emits but here we are now consuming 300% more finite methane to appear even more green – no emissions at point of use – which questions why we are continuing to plant wind turbines to mitigate Co2?

is it OK to emit Co2 to pretend to be green whilst spending countless billions on wind turbines to pretend we are saving the planet. How much more finite resources do we need to consume in order to appear to be really green??

Craig
Reply to  David Wells
November 27, 2018 12:48 pm

David,

You have more time on your hands then I do to ring ” and try to talk sense to them. Most would receive government funding and don’t want you to rock the money boat.

Its not about being green, its about wealth redistribution. The UN is full of socialists who envy what capitalism has achieved and now these socialist clowns want to steal our legally earned wealth.

All I say is David, enjoy those phone calls, it sounds like you are well on your way to notoriety with these groups.

mikebartnz
November 26, 2018 9:04 pm

He wouldn’t know science if he tripped over it going by that load of gibberish. There were just too many false statements there.

Donald Boughton
Reply to  mikebartnz
November 27, 2018 8:11 am

Unfortunately Michael Gove (BA English) is my constituency MP. Gove like most UK MP’s is so scientifically illiterate that he would find it difficult to find the hot end of an operating Bunsen Burner. I would not be surprised if this were true of your congress critters

David Wells
Reply to  Donald Boughton
November 27, 2018 12:33 pm

It isn’t just the scientific illiteracy that worries me. It is their fervent belief that the people they employ to tell them what they want to hear are being honest. When the reality is that if you pay someone enough money and you give the impression that what you really really want is for someone to affirm what you yourself want to believe you shouldn’t really be surprised that they will get the inkling that they should do exactly that and collect another cheque. Wink wink nudge nudge take the p..s just a little.

No matter how many times I talk to alarmist scientists on the phone I remain shocked at how committed they are to their chosen cause and it was the same today with Lily Cole’s climate coalition. When I gave them a fuller picture of what is the reality there was grief that they might be ignorant and that their ignorance might be recognised but it was also patently obvious that they were just parroting what someone else had said. And they couldn’t converse on the subject because the rhetoric was all that they knew.

Yet the media in the UK is giving these people prime time and prime space especially at the BBC and in the Times Leader column the Thunderer to give added effect and plausibility.

I have a grave feeling that this battle cannot be won and it is a distinctly worrying prospect.

November 26, 2018 9:17 pm

“Britain’s wildly escalating violent crime epidemic”
In fact, your link (the Sun) says that stabbings in London are at a seven year high! But tucked away at the end
“Overall, crime had continued to fall in England and Wales, consistent with the general trend since the mid-1990s.”

Reg Nelson
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 26, 2018 9:31 pm

You re trying to conflate “petty” crime with violent crime.

Sad person you are, Nick.

Who pays you to post this rubbish?

Reply to  Reg Nelson
November 26, 2018 9:38 pm

Picking out one category of violent crime which has reached levels not seen since 2011 has been inflated to “Britain’s wildly escalating violent crime epidemic”, despite crime overall declining.

whiten
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 26, 2018 11:40 pm

As overall M Gove and his very clever servants civil, have dropped
CO all together….for what I read there…strange is not it!

A Brit gov special “talk”…where overall, there is all and also nothing at all there
at the same time in the same subject and the same space.
A full delicious British politico or media “nothing-burger”, or a “nothinburger”…. a special one indeed.

cheers

Reply to  Reg Nelson
November 26, 2018 9:53 pm

“You re trying to conflate “petty” crime with violent crime”
The Sun is linking to this ONS report. From its sub-headings:
“6. No change in the most common types of violent crime
7. Some weapons offences are rising, but this type of crime remains rare”

The second is where the amount of knife crime has reached 2011 levels. That is what is hyped here as “Britain’s wildly escalating violent crime epidemic”.

toorighmate
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 26, 2018 10:27 pm

Nick has just purchased a house in Manchester and is about to move in with his family and four refugee families he has befriended. He is a truly ………….. something-or-other.

John McCabe
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 26, 2018 11:39 pm

I agree with Nick; Eric needs to be a bit more circumspect about how he phrases his introductions. He seems to be getting a bit too alarmist! Yes, there has been a significant rise in knife crime over the last couple of years, and yes, something needs to be done about but it is a small proportion of all violent crime, and is mostly contained within the London gangs as I understand it, so “widely escalating” is inappropriate and alarmist. As for “broken healthcare system”, mmmm, the NHS is far from ideal at this point in time, but there are far worse systems out there.

mikewaite
Reply to  John McCabe
November 27, 2018 12:37 am

Speaking as a UK resident , with family that has, on many occasions received NHS care one must distinguish NHS quality from NHS quantity. By this I mean that the quality of the surgery , treatment or post treatment is usually excellent by any standards . What is lacking is the capability to deal with the volume of demand. And that is due to a lack of money and trained staff , again probably a money issue.
So Eric is right when he questions the large sums being taken from the UK households to solve a nonexistent problem when it could be better used for those in the UK who need immediate care and are not impressed by a reduction of 1C in global temperatures in 2100AD

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  John McCabe
November 27, 2018 1:15 am

No, even small Scottish towns have suffered drug related youth gang violence. It’s a problem affecting the whole of the UK.

Though, completely agree with the damaging effects on all public services of the money wasted on climate nonsense.

That even applies to third world aid – Does an African living in a hut want a solar panel, or a stove to cook their food on without choking themselves on smoke from an open fire?

Taphonomic
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 10:02 am

That was an old report. Look at the most recent at https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingjune2018

It states:
“Over recent decades, we’ve seen continued falls in overall levels of crime but in the last year the trend has been more stable. The latest figures show no change in the total level of crime but this hides variation in different crime types. Over the last year, we have seen rises in some types of theft and in some lower-volume but higher-harm types of violence. This is balanced by a fall in the high-volume offence of computer misuse and no change in other high-volume offences such as overall violence, criminal damage and fraud. To put these figures into context, only 2 out of 10 adults experienced crime in the latest year.”

How swell. Only 20 percent of adults experienced some crime.

Alba
Reply to  Taphonomic
November 27, 2018 11:43 am

As it says, that’s England and Wales. The situation in Scotland is slightly different.
“Police have recorded increasing numbers of violent and sexual offences amid an overall rise in crime. Figures from Police Scotland show there was a 1.7 per cent increase in total crime during the period 1 April, 2017 to 31 March, 2018 when compared with the same period the year before. The figure increases to 3.4 per cent when statistics on weapon possession – which were not previously recorded separately – are included. Violent crime increased by 1.1 per cent, while there was a 12.2 per cent rise in sexual crime, believed to be down to victims having the confidence to come forward. Police Scotland said that while recorded crime had risen, it remained below the level recorded when the force was created in April 2013. There were 10,300 fewer crimes in 2017-18 than the five-year average, a drop of 4 per cent. The figures show there were 7,251 non-sexual violent crimes in the period between 1 April and 31 March, up 0.8 per cent on the same period the previous year. Despite the overall increase, there were 55 murders (a fall of 12.7 per cent) and the number of serious assaults decreased by 1.4 per cent to 3,949. The number of robberies increased 8.4 per cent to 1,556, while there were 245 attempted murders, up 2.1 per cent on the previous year.
Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/sexual-and-violent-crime-on-the-rise-in-scotland-1-4746192

bit chilly
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 6:59 pm

there is a significant issue now in the uk with much crime going unreported due to the inability of the police to respond. if your car is broken into or stolen you will most likely get a crime number over the phone for insurance purposes and no visit from the police. this happens with many other crimes deemed “low level”. only the other day a clown of a judge imposed a non custodial sentence on someone that attacked a car with a machete in a road rage incident,smashing windows and the occupant had to flee. our prisons are full to the brim yet there are plenty that should be in them free to continue to commit further crimes.

the person responsible for this situation is our current prime minister, the cuts to the police were at her instigation when she was home secretary. she is a disaster as the current brexit “negotiations” show. there should have been no negotiation, just article 50 enacted and eu told we were leaving, how would you like to continue trading.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  Reg Nelson
November 27, 2018 12:38 am

Shall we compare violent crime in the UK, to violent crime in the USA? What’s the figures for shootings in the two countries?
Try putting your own house in order first.

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  Adam Gallon
November 27, 2018 1:04 am

You are less likely to be attacked in the USA than in the UK. Surprisingly that is even true in notionally dangerous areas of cities. The fact that most USA violent crime involves guns is an example of statistical skew. Yes, more guns are used but that is because they are more readily available, whereas bladed weapons are more readily available in the UK.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Adam Gallon
November 27, 2018 1:14 am

Last I heard is that knife crime in London was worse than shooting crime in New York so you should be careful about telling someone to get their house in order first.
Chicago is probably a different story though.

Reply to  mikebartnz
November 27, 2018 1:47 am

“Last I heard is that knife crime in London was worse than shooting crime in New York”
You are still more likely to be killed in NY.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 2:23 am

You say that as if you are proud of it. New York’s crime rate is declining whereas London’s is on the rise.
I do wonder how much of that is to do with the immigrant population.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  mikebartnz
November 27, 2018 4:12 am

UNITED KINGDOM KNIFE CRIME GROWING TO EPIDEMIC LEVELS

11-23-2018 — Police across the United Kingdom are fighting rising numbers of knife-related crimes.

During the first six months of the year, police recorded 39,332 knife crime offenses — a 12 percent increase over last year, according to the Office for National Statistics.

Greg
Reply to  mikebartnz
November 27, 2018 9:38 am

“police recorded 39,332 knife crime offenses “

do not confuse “knife crime offenses ” with an attack. In the UK carrying a 3″ pocket knife is a criminal offense under the Firearms Act ( yes, really carrying a knife is a “firearms offense” ).

Most of those “offenses” will be people who got pulled up by police doing “stop and search”, finding someone minding their own business and having a knife in their pocket.

I know of someone who got three months hard time for carrying a french “Opinel” pocket knife. These have a sliding collar you turn to prevent the blade shutting. That is a security device ( as was recognized when the law was written). Sadly judges have redefined what the law meant and these are now equated to being a flick knife.

ATheoK
Reply to  Reg Nelson
November 27, 2018 7:21 am

Plus 100!

Now, Nick starts the dance of the endless circular arguments and distraction strawmen.
Pathetic.

Editor
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 3:10 am

Nick

You say that ““Overall, crime had continued to fall in England and Wales, consistent with the general trend since the mid-1990s.”

However, this is based on the much disputed Crime Survey figures, and not police data. Effectively the Crime Survey is little more than an opinion poll, and nobody in the UK has ever taken it seriously.

As the ONS report says:

Other data sources including police data on the number of crimes recorded, show evidence of increases in some of the less frequently occurring, but higher-harm offences.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2017

If you have any doubts about crime levels, just ask yourself why police and other so many other experts are calling for higher police numbers.

HotScot
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 4:38 am

Nick Stokes

People in the UK have given up reporting crime as nothing is done by a damagingly over stretched police force.

I’m an ex cop, I know what I’m talking about.

Alba
Reply to  HotScot
November 27, 2018 11:48 am

It would seem that Police Scotland now have other priorituies.
We have identified hate crime as a high priority under the classification of violence, disorder and anti-social behaviour and continue to place a high priority on such crime.
We continually review incidents and crimes to identify current and new trends, and target our resources accordingly.
A hate incident is any incident that is not a criminal offence, but something which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hate or prejudice.
http://www.scotland.police.uk/keep-safe/advice-for-victims-of-crime/hate-crime/what-is-hate-crime/
Notce that they divert resources into ‘hate incidents’ which, they admit, are not criminal offences.

John Law
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 8:14 am

The planet East London, is not part of England and Wales, where crime is indeed falling!

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 27, 2018 9:19 am

Nick seems to have this detail right, Eric, but crime isn’t the worst issue the UK and Europe have to deal with. A self-inflicted gaping wound that is erasing their culture is certainly in play, and is now on automatic with fertility rates accelerating demographic change.

Since Global Warming Armageddon is an affliction of шнутеs, it too will be history in another few decades.

John Endicott
Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 27, 2018 11:11 am

Could you please explain what a “шнутеs” is in English? thanks

November 26, 2018 9:19 pm

Michael Gove is a quintessential idiot and should be in charge of nothing bigger than a matchbox. Boris Johnson should take over all his functions, after Michael is moved to a secure location.

M Courtney
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 27, 2018 1:36 am

Boris Johnson is also an idiot.
Remember, the current Parliamentary Conservative Party has found no greater leader that May.
They are all incompetent and should go now.

climanrecon
Reply to  M Courtney
November 27, 2018 2:52 am

All politicians are incompetent by definition, any competence would have been put to better use, the only way to mitigate this problem is to have less government, I suggest an “ambitious” target of a 10% reduction by 2020.

HotScot
Reply to  climanrecon
November 27, 2018 4:58 am

climanrecon

It should be noted that, (rightly) no qualifications are necessary to be in government.

Basically an idiot like me can be PM, and the more idiots like me there are in government, the more idiotic governments are.

Worse, our British government is now telling us what to do (adopt EV’s as one example) rather than us telling them what to do.

They are working hand in glove with industry to impose renewables using agencies (IPCC etc) and the MSM to mercilessly drive the message of CAGW home to gullible voters. Wealthy investors in a demonstrably failing government sponsored endeavour are making fortunes whilst the poor suffer the trials of escalating fuel poverty.

The whole thing smacks of a headlong rush into fascism, deliberate or otherwise.

DaveS
Reply to  M Courtney
November 27, 2018 5:27 am

The problem being that the alternatives are even worse, in the case of Corbyn considerably so. Politicians of substance are close to extinction in Westminster.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  M Courtney
November 27, 2018 9:26 am

Hear hear MC! The worst is that political affiliations are meaningless now so there are no real alternatives. The party people think they are voting for is it only in name. Their real contituents are outsourced.

Joel O'Bryan
November 26, 2018 9:32 pm

Sometimes I can’t help but wonder if a brain-controlling alien-life form worm has taken over half the population.
I’m sure the other half wonders that about me and my half too.

But unlike them, I am a “clinger.”
The 2nd Amendment was written for that reason.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 26, 2018 11:59 pm

“… wonder if a brain-controlling alien-life form worm has taken over half the population.”

R. Heinlein wrote a readable novel along those lines, The Puppet Masters (1951 IIRC)

John Doran
Reply to  Roger Knights
November 27, 2018 2:26 am

One of my favourite authors was Robert Heinlein, RIP.

& I’ve been wondering about alien mind control also: it sure would help explain the rampant insanities at the top of our societies.

I’ve been reading recently about the ancient Sumerian clay tablets, our oldest form of written history, & their stories of how we were created as a slave race by long-lived aliens. It’s most interesting.

John Doran.

Susan
November 26, 2018 9:36 pm

He is parroting the figures he has been given but if you look at what he is suggesting it mostly sounds quite sensible. Helping communities to manage environmental hazards has to beat trying to reduce ‘carbon’ emissions. Gove makes all the right noises but he is no greenie.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Susan
November 26, 2018 10:27 pm

Gove is now the Secretary for Environment and has been converted from “shy green” to “full-throated” green:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/12/michael-gove-from-shy-green-to-full-throated-environmentalist
It often happens it seems, otherwise rational politicians become captives of their portfolio department.

WR
November 26, 2018 9:41 pm

How smug it must make one feel to give away other people’s money.

Phil Rae
November 26, 2018 10:03 pm

Sadly, I have to confess Mr Gove and I went to same school, albeit quite a few years apart. I had high hopes for him since he did some decent things when he was looking after education but his current brief in DEFRA or whatever it’s called these days has been nothing short of tragic. He’s certainly not stupid, despite appearances, but he’s a consummate political animal so he is making Ng all the right noises for his constituents who, more & more, are Greenpeace, WWF and other NGOs with their snouts in the subsidy/charity trough! What a shame to see this twaddle from an otherwise intellectually gent individual!

john in cheshire
Reply to  Phil Rae
November 27, 2018 1:12 am

When the Conservative party came to power in 2010, they made a big issue ( no pun intended) of having a ‘ Bonfire of the QUANGOs’.
As usual, as with all politicians, it was just hot air.
If Mr Gove wished to be remembered for something beneficial to our country, he’d light that bonfire in his own department. It might go some way to mitigate his support for Mrs May and her treachery.

HotScot
Reply to  john in cheshire
November 27, 2018 5:07 am

john in cheshire

Many of the functions of the QUANGO’s they got rid of were turned over to charities in return for government financial support. They are very effective lobbying groups, especially when the government tells them what to lobby for.

Chris Hanley
November 26, 2018 10:32 pm

8/10 Michael (ex-UK Secretary of State for Education), if the sea level is rising 3.2mm per year it will rise around 6cm in eighteen years, very good but carbon dioxide is not “pollution”, I’ve deducted two marks for that howler.
The simple fact is that whatever the combination of factors that cause the climate to change, as it always has and always will, so-called mitigation is a scandalous waste of wealth, has already imposed monumental opportunity costs; no amount of money has or will have the slightest noticeable effect and there is nothing humans can do about it except better prepare for all the usual climate risks.

Phillip Bratby
November 26, 2018 10:51 pm

Full analysis of Gove’s nonsense by Paul Homewood. Gove’s speech was written by Sir Humphrey.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/11/26/goves-climate-nonsense/#comments

tom0mason
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
November 27, 2018 1:38 am

A note from Sir Humphrey Appleby:

In as far as can be ascertained Minister Gove has followed the tradition of the apportioning tasks between the ministry and, dare I say it, the more knowledgeable and experienced civil service.
That is to say in the traditional proper allocation of executive responsibilities has always been so determined as to liberate the ministerial incumbent from the administrative minutiae by devolving the managerial functions to those whose experience and qualifications have better formed them for the performance of such humble offices, thereby releasing their political overlords for the more onerous duties and profound deliberations which are the inevitable concomitant of their exalted position.

MattS
November 26, 2018 11:56 pm

Tax payer money pissed down the drain.

Ian Macdonald
November 27, 2018 12:51 am

There is certainly a worrying situation with youth justice in the UK, and it largely arises through secrecy in juvenile court proceedings. Since even the victims of juvenile gang crime aren’t allowed to know anything of the court proceedings, that creates a situation of unaccountability to the public.

What makes it worse is that persons of 16 and 17, though adults under Scots Law, are still entitled to secret hearings. Which I would have thought was a human rights issue, after all it’s giving one adult privelege over another. A high proportion of the serious offenders are in this age range, and drug dealing figures heavily in the motives. We’ve seen children as young as ten taking hard drugs on the street.

We had a spate of incidents of property being wilfully smashed round here, and although they were successfully arrested we still don’t know who the offenders were or if they are still at large. Because of this we’ve had to maintain an ongoing watch on property, which has been time consuming and distressing for residents.

As to why this goes on, it seems to be a political ‘numbers game’ – if the offenders can be kept out of the stats then it can be made to seem that crime levels are lower than they actually are.

I would like to sue the authorities for this, but so far I haven’t found a lawyer willing to take up the case. Most seem to reckon it would be tilting at windmills because the politicos are all behind this warped and twisted youth justice system.

Not quite climate related, but I think it underlines just how corrupt the institutions have got, and the effect this has on the public.

HotScot
Reply to  Ian Macdonald
November 27, 2018 5:10 am

Ian Macdonald

Effing SNP.

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November 27, 2018 12:52 am

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Coeur de Lion
November 27, 2018 1:18 am

The BBC duffed up ‘Lord Deben’ (aka Gummer) for lying on air the other day. I wonder if they might do over Gove – another Conservative pol – for this alarmist Climate product. Oh – silly me

John Doran
November 27, 2018 2:05 am

Gove should be somehow compelled to read & publicly report on Dr. Tim Ball’s little gem of a book: Human Caused Global Warming, The Biggest Deception In History.
In only 121 pages he exposes the whole fraud, & names names.

Gove’s speech has been craftily worded by his Mr. Humphries, but the huge & obvious howler is CO2 Pollution. That will be a stick to beat him with.

In real life what his waffle will amount to is mostly population control in the third world, after huge percentages have been diverted into various pockets.
Book: Merchants of Despair, by Robert Zubrin, a PhD nuclear engineer with 9 patents to his name or pending.
Zubrin shows how safe & clean nuclear power is being suppressed: demonised by the fake news Mainstream Media, underfunded to fail, smothered by bureaucracy & ridiculously over the top health & safety requirements.

The most egregious example of the depopulation process of the “environmentalists” is the “banning” of DDT, 1972, by the head of the US Environmental Protection Agency, William Ruckelshaus.
Estimates vary from 50,000,000 to 150,000,000 million lives lost to the dreadful death of malaria, mostly women & children in the third world.

That’s a true holocaust.

All based on the lie that this planet is overpopulated.

John Doran.

Gerald the Mole
November 27, 2018 2:27 am

Napoleon said ” in politics stupidity is not a handicap”.

John Endicott
Reply to  Gerald the Mole
November 27, 2018 11:18 am

Considering most politicians, It would seem to be a prerequisite!

james
November 27, 2018 3:34 am

Unfortunately, the BBC( Ban British Commonsense!) have decided some months ago that they are not going to allow any challenges to their total commitment to the climate hysteria campaign.
Their controller of news (or some other twat) thinks that by doing this, everyone will now toe the ‘Greenie’ line and are now giving their pet environment reporter Roger Harribyn (think that’s how you spell it) a regular spot on most of the news programmes to try to convert us non believers with bucket loads of doom and gloom!

HotScot
Reply to  james
November 27, 2018 5:13 am

james

Catastrophic Climate Change news is coming thick and fast from the BBC at the moment. They seem in a hurry.

John Endicott
Reply to  james
November 28, 2018 8:49 am

it’s Roger Harrabin though I pronounce it “hairbrained” for obvious reasons 🙂

knr
November 27, 2018 3:39 am

Following this news , the Mercedes dealers of 101 ‘developing ‘ countries put Grove on their Christmas card list .

D. Anderson
November 27, 2018 3:48 am

He tells us through advances in technology we can now measure sea levels accurately. So let’s compare today’s accurate measurement with the inaccurate measurements from 2000.

Mark Hansford
November 27, 2018 4:54 am

How about giving the local population decent power and light and with it a chance of a healthy life and a proper education……but no lets squander millions on mangrove restoration …..ffs I give up. Properly educated with modern aids for quality, of life the mangroves will get looked after properly by the indigenous population

HotScot
Reply to  Mark Hansford
November 27, 2018 5:18 am

Mark Hansford

From what I remember £300 Bn is anticipated to be spent on climate change by the British government 2015 – 2050 or so.

That doesn’t include foreign aid to countries we have been sending foreign aid to for 100 years. And they are still little better.

120,000,000 expected to die from smoke inhalation, 1,000,000 a year to go blind and die from vitamin A deficiency and 500,000 children a year expected to die from diarrhoeal conditions every year because they still don’t have sanitation the Romans introduced to the UK.

ResourceGuy
November 27, 2018 6:41 am

That amounts to Brexit from reality.

Ulric Lyons
November 27, 2018 6:59 am

Gove on UK climate projections:

‘Under the highest emission scenario, warming by 2070 is in the range 0.9˚C to 5.4°C in summer, compared to the recent past (1981-2000).’

That’s a tall order given that UK maximum summer temperature has risen only 0.5°C since 1940 and probably includes some UHI effects.

‘Already, the winter of 2013-2014 was the wettest on record for the UK. And then, between November 2015 and January 2016, we experienced the most rain ever in that period, saturating the ground and causing some of the most severe floods in a century.’

In fact Dec 1876 and Jan 1877 together were slightly wetter than Jan-Feb 2014 for England and Wales, with very similar stormy conditions, implying a similar warm blob blocking pattern in the NE Pacific. Further evidenced by very cold conditions in the northeast USA through Dec 1876 and Jan 1877.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/michael-gove-speech-on-uk-climate-change-projections

Ulric Lyons
Reply to  Ulric Lyons
November 27, 2018 7:01 am

Here’s the MetO report that he refers to.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/2018/ukcp18-launch-pr

Chris Morrison
November 27, 2018 7:45 am

I recently visited the UK town of Leek in North Staffordshire – a small former mill town, let’s just say getting by in the modern world. Retail competition in the neat but down at heel high street is mainly on price. There are no £2 a cup coffee chains and dine out options don’t really extend much past the local Indian and Chinese and a rather lovely café selling wonderful home-made meat pies. Walk down the streets off the main strip past all the small terraces and you often come across deserted old mills. No they have not been converted to trendy apartments for elite investors. They stand empty, as it they have done since ithey were closed up to 40 years ago.

And the story is the same in countless towns in the north of England, long forgotten by all the political elites.

How good it is that our environment secretary Michael Gove, fresh from his recent triumph in staying in his Cabinet post by selling out Brexit, is spending an “additional” £13m on mangrove restoration in far off tropical lands. A cynic might note that mangroves are tropical plants that need littler encouragement to grow. And indeed, wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper to blow CO2 over them for a quick growth spurt.

Curiously absent from towns like Leek are rich kids on gap years doing their many good deeds. Inexplicably they are more likely to be found in the Caribbean where, according to a recent BBC radio programme, our noble youths are helping to re-plant coral, piece, it seems, by piece.

Nice work if you can get it – and totally useless, but say it quietly since we wouldn’t want to discourage the young or even dim-witted Government ministers.

MarkW
November 27, 2018 9:50 am

” Quotes WWF Report”

Who cares what a bunch or wrestlers think about climate change?

Farmer Ch E retired
November 27, 2018 10:14 am

Article says:
“WWF’s recent Living Planet report revealed a 60% fall in global wildlife populations in just over 40 years. One of the main causes of this devastating decline is climate change.”

The real cause for global decline in wildlife may be the wildlife destruction by wind turbines, loss of wildlife habitat and carbon sequestration capacity due to deforestation for solar farms, deforestation for bio-fuel crops, etc. etc. We live in a vary complex intertwined ecosystem and we have folks running the show that specialize in two-dimensional thought.

CCVisnesky
Reply to  Farmer Ch E retired
November 27, 2018 12:34 pm

A few weeks ago I saw this same nonsense claim of 60% animal loss as just an aside and ‘guess’ in a report that did NOT confirm this claim. So the readers of it cherry picked that one sentence as the drama they needed. Frankly I saw how the queen’s consort, Phillip, learned to loathe the ‘black & brown masses’ the Brits ruled over back in the early 1950s which caused him to create the WWF. Philip has made several statements (on record in interviews etc) saying he saw all the humans and their reproduction as a nuisance on the planet, that ‘he wished to come back as a virus to kill off these humans’, etc etc. So NO I take nothing the little “Panda’ organization with its never-ending funding claims as factual Like any ‘eternally living’ grant funded organization…follow the money, it’s job security for them.

ResourceGuy
November 27, 2018 11:04 am

Is this a form of penance for the palm oil policy and enviro massacres?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/11/23/palm-oil-was-supposed-to-help-save-the-planet-instead-it-unleashed-a-catastrophe/

Or a repeat of the same?

Johann Wundersamer
December 3, 2018 7:13 am

When dealing with

“they will expect the developed world to deliver what Mary Robinson, the former Irish president and environmental campaigner,

calls ‘climate justice’ –”

UK Secretary of State Michael Gove can recur to

https://www.google.at/search?q=little+ice+age+witch+hunts&oq=little+ice+age+witch+hunts&aqs=chrome.

Johann Wundersamer
December 3, 2018 7:18 am

“Just since 2000, levels have risen around six centimetres, based on a global-average rise of 3.2mm a year.”

none of a problem as UK Secretary of State Michael Gove should know –

Britannia rules the waves!

Johann Wundersamer
December 3, 2018 7:40 am

A new challenge for British Royal Commandos –

“warmer and more acidic seas.”

Johann Wundersamer
December 3, 2018 7:42 am

A new challenge for British Royal Marine Commandos –

“warmer and more acidic seas.”

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