And to contrast with the French protesting too much climate mitigation policy, we have the [some in the] UK protesting not enough ~ctm
The demonstrators say human extinction is possible if world governments fail to do significantly more on climate change.
More than 70 people have been arrested in London after a protest which blocked five of the capital’s bridges to demand urgent action on climate change.
The group Extinction Rebellion staged a sit-in on Blackfriars, Waterloo, Westminster, Lambeth and Southwark bridges.
Coordinated action took place at sites around the UK and the globally.
The largest crowds were on Westminster Bridge, with police keeping watch as protesters – some carrying banners – blocked the normally busy bridge.
Sky News reporter Phil Edwards said there were around 1,000 people taking part in the protest next to the Houses of Parliament. Organisers said more than 6,000 people were involved.
Dr Bradbrook said blocking the bridges was necessary after other protests, marches and letters to MPs had achieved little.
Oblique HT/Patrick Fine
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“Unless we stop climate change …”
Witness the danger of cranky, half-baked science. Thank’s Dr Mann, Hansen, et al, for the potential of your contributions to anarchy.
Before genetics and DNA were understood, Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution spawned a political movement called Social Darwinism. The idea is quite simple. ‘The survival of the fittest”. It was big in Germany, the idea of struggling to survive. General Ludendorff thought that war was the natural state and peace just an aberration, a hiatus between wars. War was good, because it weeded out the ‘unfit to survive, and in the turmoil of post WW1 Germany, he supported a man who had written a book about his fight to live. The book is called My Struggle – Mein Kampf.
Climate change cannot be stopped and yet we have the great and the good of the scientific community assuring us that it can be and all we have to do is cut CO2 emissions …
“The deadly heatwave that gripped the world over the summer is only a glimpse of what is to come if we do not properly address the crisis. The government and environmental NGOs have failed to do so. We need to build a mass movement that is prepared to accept what is happening and act accordingly. We need change. We need to rebel.” https://rebellion.earth/events/
No, they need to learn some science and the “great and the good” need to take responsibility for their nonsense before it gets out of hand.
I’d say they picked a bad time to be demonstrating about “Globull Warming” LOL…Brrrrrrrrrr.
Exactly. As a friend who went through military winter survival school in the Northern Rockies some years ago adapted as one of her favorite sayings, “It can never be too warm.” If the NH winter is anything like the fall so far, a lot of people around here will be thinking the same thing as she was.
Yeah Marcus, Mother nature has a habit of doing that to the greenies. Also know as “the Gore effect”
“Dr Gail Bradbrook says ‘people need to take their heads out the sand’”
I don’t think it’s the sand where these protesters have their heads stuck.
Thousands of protesters in London, but how many with any scientific or engineering expertise or understanding? I bet you could count them on the fingers of one hand.
with plenty of fingers to spare. But hey, I’ll gladly give them the finger in the middle.
Graemethecat
From the comments section of Cliscep.com
“*XR people. Here are some of those who took part in the nuisance actions on Monday and Wednesday this week:
A bespoke shoemaker who teaches monks how to oppose the arms trade; an outdoor educator and self-described goat-stroker at an ecopsychological mentoring collective; an ecotherapist with six children and a yurt who opposes the arms trade; a polyamorous wombstriker who sang on the soundtrack of John Lewis’s 2016 Christmas ad and opposes the arms trade; a Catholic anarchist (a real thing, apparently) ex-junkie who opposes the arms trade, has six children and once had a trial with Swansea City; a Catholic priest who has spent 20 years being arrested and sometimes imprisoned for protests against nuclear weapons and the arms trade; an anti-airport Quaker who took a break from organising road-blocking protests at Heathrow to fly to Costa Rica and take hallucinogenic drugs while her hosts, wealthy American ex-junkies, rubbed Tibetan singing bowls and played the didgeridoo; two of Michael Frayn’s grandsons, identical twins who have gained a large following among Da Yoot as corporate-funded globe-trotting travel vloggers and who, together and separately, have visited the USA, Somalia, Sri Lanka, India, Bhutan, Singapore, Indonesia, Hong Kong, mainland China, Japan, Kiribati and no doubt a few other far-flung places in the last 12 months; and a globe-trotting vagina-steaming acupuncturist who is the daughter of a French garlic magnate and the actress who played Betty Whistler in Hi-de-Hi.”
https://cliscep.com/2018/11/17/macrons-climate-waterloo/?utm_source=CCNet+Newsletter&utm_campaign=31345f4540-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_11_19_02_30&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe4b2f45ef-31345f4540-36447077
After the protest they all got in their cars and drove home and then turned on the heat and the lights and ate meat.
…and they undoubtedly burped and farted a lot.
And not one of them had a smidgen of self-awareness!
It’s the same rent-a-mob of anarchists every time regardless of the cause. Previously it was the poll tax, then Iraq, then genetic modification, then globalisation. Now it’s kloymat.
Can you spare me some (climate) change, sir?
Even the IPCC has given up trying to claim more than 3 or 4 degrees of warming.
Where do these fruit cakes come from?
The irony here, of course, is that human extinction is inevitable in the long term and MUCH more likely short term in a world that lives in energy poverty without the tools and energy resources to adapt to the serious disasters we KNOW are going to happen eventually.
How much of humanity would survive a Chicxulub level event now, much less in a world of energy poverty under-powered by solar and wind. And we know that such an event is almost guaranteed eventually. How would the world today deal with even a Meteor crater, AZ or Tunguska level event with the epicenter over NYC or Paris or Beijing? An energy rich, wealthy world could potentially avert these catastrophes, an energy poor world of poverty could not and might not even know when it was imminent.
Also inevitable is the next Lake Toba or Yellowstone type of VEI8 disaster. There may not be any way to avert these, but adaptation and the survival of millions, if not billions, will depend on the energy affluence of the entire world. Even something like another Carrington Event could kill millions and would likely destroy most of the photovoltaic power in the world. Without fossil and nuclear thermal power available and spinning, recovery from that could take decades.
In the real world (as opposed to green delusions) the worst case for human induced climate change is a little mild inconvenience compared to the eventual, inevitable disasters that await us and our descendants. The best case is that an energy rich society will have the resources to avoid, adapt to or at least mitigate the real disasters we know are coming eventually. The human release of CO2 may even be a blessing in disguise if it can slow down the inevitable slide of the Milankovitch cycles into the next glaciation.
Unfortunately, any enhanced GHE from even much more CO2 isn’t powerful enough to have a significant effect on Milankovitch cycles.
Its concentration was over 4000 ppm, ie ten times higher than now, during the Ordovician-Silurian glaciation, when solar power was only 4% lower than now.
You’d think that Greens would welcome radical reduction in human numbers.
Which is it?
The world has a lot of lemmings
Climate Alarmism is the modern-day Western version of Lysenkoism which was the Soviet-approved genetics science of the 1920s-1950s, debunked elsewhere. It plays the same social role, but amplified.
If people believe that the burning of fossil fuels is bad then they should stop making use of all goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels but apparently these protesters have not done that.
Based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one can conclude that the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rationale to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. It is all a matter of science.
All the terrorists and anarchists seem to target the bridges.
Anybody ever read ‘The Lost World’? Not the Conan Doyle original – but the Jurassic Park sequel written by Michael Crichton – not that good a book, actually (although much better than the movie), but was actually a fairly interesting extended essay on extinction – particularly the concept of ‘behavior-based’ extinction – the idea being that an animal’s own behavior undermines it’s survivability more than any environmental factors.
I always think of this whenever I see a bunch of greenies congregating together to destroy our ability to produce food, heat and cool our homes, limit transportation, as well as cramming people into high-density settings with limited resources – all with the mentality of destroying what exists, with barely a nod to what might replace it – in fact, happy enough if NOTHING does (sort of the way Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, just tosses off a 40 trillion dollar price tag over a single issue), as well as the way they have opposed ANYTHING that improves the human condition – all under the auspice of actually saving the planet FROM humanity – which naturally dovetails with that whole elitist ‘population reduction’ agenda… well, it sounds like exactly what Crichton was talking about.
Don’t be so hard on Ocasio-Cortez, Joel. After all, 40 trillion is only the entire US GDP for 2 years or so. Surely all us nasty capitalists could cough that up without too much trouble. And besides, she is a perfect addition to that select group of brilliant congressional members, such as Hank (Guam will capsize) Johnson. They both won their elections this year with landslide victories. Then there is Kyrsten Sinema, who called Arizona “The meth lab of democracy” then proceeded to prove it by getting elected to the US Senate there. I sometimes wonder if maybe we don’t deserve to go extinct.
Well, there’s certainly no arguing any of that.
Depressingly enough.
My UK heirs might have been there. They voted against Brexit too. Bequeaths skip a generation so I’ve been selling farm land since they are city dwellers; figure money would be useful if global cooling occurs.
…and they undoubtedly burped and farted a lot.
And not one of them had a smidgen of self-awareness!
They are rebels without a clue.
The European Court of Justice has just told the UK government that it can have spinning reserve but it cannot pay for it. That blows the concept of green power out of the sky !
And Remainers cannot understand why on Earth we would wish to leave the land of lunacy.
I tried to get across London Bridge when there was this protest going on. It was’t as intense as the other bridges but bad enough. I even tried to ask some of these twats why they thought mass extinction was on the way due to climate change.
Frankly I could have had a more interesting conversation with a tree!
The comment about Darwins “Survival of the fittest has allready happened. Humans either the early version, then thee present day, thy survived the ice ages, at least three . Wher eas the ones in the tropics did not.
I will not comment further.
MJE
Headed for the poorhouse and taking us with them. Can you tell the difference of 1c over the last 100 years.
The insane belief that politicians, most of whom probably don’t even read the IPCC’s Summaries for Policymakers, control the climate. Given a choice, the majority will always vote for less, not more, climate ‘action’.
Dr. Bradbrook is invited to finance her climate mitigation needs at any time. NOW.