UN claims yet another moving climate goalpost we’ll never reach

UN chief: ‘Pivotal moment’ for fighting global warming

Secretary-General António Guterres (right) briefs press on the occasion of the opening of the seventy-third session of the United Nations General Assembly on 20 September 2018. UN Photo/Manuel Elias

UNITED NATIONS — U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says the world has reached “a pivotal moment” in global warming and risks runaway climate change if leaders don’t act in the next two years.

He is telling world leaders at the U.N. General Assembly that they aren’t doing enough to combat what he calls “a direct existential threat” that is moving faster than people are working to combat it.

He notes that thick, permanent sea ice north of Greenland began to break up this year for the first time.

He’s calling for making sure the international Paris climate change agreement is implemented. U.S. President Donald Trump has announced he’s withdrawing his country from the pact.

Guterres is planning a climate summit next year.

Source: PBS Newshour


How many times have the goalposts been moved where that pivotal moment has been reached, and we are just a couple of years away from the irreversible or runaway scenario. I’ve lost count.

The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres seems to not understand that Arctic sea ice hasn’t been disappearing, that this year is actually better than the worst years of 2007 and 2012, and hasn’t been cooperating with several “ice free” predictions made by Al Gore, Peter Wadhams, NSIDC’s Mark Serreze  and others.

I can say this though: MIT says we won’t ever be in a “runaway” climate scenario, as the warming trend so far doesn’t meet the criteria to get there from here.

Emergency canceled, but that won’t stop these numptys.


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M__ S__
September 25, 2018 8:44 pm

Just another blowhard wasting whatever further integrity that the UN SHOULD have, but never will and never has.

Steven Fraser
September 25, 2018 8:45 pm

I’m grokkin’ this nuptyness.

BoyfromTottenham
September 25, 2018 8:53 pm

Anthony (and others) – I say again that these CAGW-pushing mouthpieces aren’t ‘numptys’ at all, they are carefully trained people all playing the same propaganda / disinformation game, which is basically the same as the Soviets used against the West for decades in the Cold War – tell the same lie over and over until it becomes the ‘truth’, misrepresent the facts, ignore all facts that might refute their narrative, etc.
There is no doubt that propaganda works on some naive minds, especially if it widely broadcast and continues for a long period (think decades). The question that we should be asking ourselves is ‘how should we respond to this propaganda’? The longer it goes on, the more firmly are their narratives embedded in these naive minds, who don’t even know that they have been brainwashed.

Reply to  BoyfromTottenham
September 26, 2018 1:23 am

BoyfromTottenham

As a propaganda drive, climate change is failing miserably though. The general public don’t care because all the laughable predictions made over the last 40 years have failed.

The UK, by way of example, is about to spend £ Billions refurbishing the Houses of Parliament, which is on the banks of the River Thames!

The public are laughing because they recognise that, despite the political statements made daily on climate change, the politicians themselves don’t believe the CAGW clap trap they thoughtlessly regurgitated.

knr
Reply to  HotScot
September 26, 2018 2:06 am

Over the last few years and across the world ,come election times AGW has come no where in the list of peoples concerns hence why its been a ‘none-problem ‘ for those looking to get elected .

Its was always going to be a ‘slow death ‘ rather than a quick kill , if for no other reason than the number of people whose livelihoods depended on it and the number of ‘hangers-on ‘ who attached to the AGW wagon in the hope of getting their own ideas forced unto the people .

September 25, 2018 9:07 pm

The United States doesn’t deserve the benefits or prestige that arise from hosting the United Nations. The UN should be relocated to a country that could use a social and economic boost. Yemen, Somalia or maybe Syria would be a perfect new location.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Thomas
September 25, 2018 10:22 pm

Yes, the US deserves way better than to have to coddle the dictators of the United Nations.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 25, 2018 10:25 pm

Have you ever seen a UN representative position on the ballot, Thomas?

knr
Reply to  Thomas
September 26, 2018 2:02 am

dam good idea , but one small problem the UN delegates and there workers tend to be ‘very keen ‘ on the luxury end of living so you need to be somewhere ‘nice ‘ or they are going no where .

Greg Woods
Reply to  Thomas
September 26, 2018 2:54 am

Burkina Faso

commieBob
September 25, 2018 9:10 pm

How many times have the goalposts been moved where that pivotal moment has been reached, and we are just a couple of years away from the irreversible or runaway scenario. I’ve lost count.

People can read between the lines and realize what’s going on. I am reminded of a German who realized the jig was up during WW2 because “All our great victories kept getting closer to Berlin.”

If you don’t prod them, people don’t think about CAGW as a problem. There are much worse real things to worry about. I have often cited the ongoing Gallup poll on the nation’s most important problem. CAGW doesn’t rate a specific mention. The environment is currently a serious problem for 1% of the population.

Few politicians will directly stand up against CAGW orthodoxy. They will give it lip service. Then the more right wing politicians will ignore it as best they can. It won’t hurt them with a large majority of the voters.

The population is mostly tuned out on CAGW warnings. Repetition and fresh warnings aren’t working.

Rick C PE
Reply to  commieBob
September 25, 2018 9:56 pm

The top of my list of things to worry about include nuclear war, asteroid impact, 9.0+ earthquakes, super volcanoes, pandemics and the national debt. Climate change comes after ED and male pattern baldness.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Rick C PE
September 25, 2018 10:13 pm

So for all practical purposes, the worst of life’s problems can be solved with Artas Robotic hair replacements and Blue Chews.
http://www.hanswiemann.com/
https://www.bluechew.com/tadalafil-2/
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Gary Ashe
Reply to  Rick C PE
September 26, 2018 12:33 am

your young arn’t you Rick.

Try heart attack
stroke
pension fund

John V. Wright
September 25, 2018 10:00 pm

I’m with Boy from Tottenham (above). Yes, I love the word ‘numpty’ also but these people are more calculating than that. As I have pointed out before on Anthony’s excellent blog, Guterres was head of the Socialist party in Portugal before he became that nation’s Prime Minister and then went on to be the head of Socialist International. All you need to know about that era of politicians is that he was replaced as PM by his old mate Barroso – yes, the guy who went on to be President of the European Commission, the all-powerful unelected and anti-democratic bureaucracy that runs the European Union.

What links the two posts of the UN Secretary General and the EC President? They are both unelected positions, reached by a mysterious political osmosis. The people who occupy them wield enormous power and influence and cannot be voted out of office.

Here’s the deal. Guterres is an old-fashioned redistributor of wealth. Your wealth, obviously, not his. CAGW is a global wealth redistribution scam and Guterres is a leading proponent of it. Numpty? Yes, probably. Dangerous? Without doubt.

kramer
Reply to  John V. Wright
September 26, 2018 10:46 am

Here’s a few Socialist International (SI) fun facts:

After we removed Saddam Hussein, Iraq ‘elected’ Jalal Talabani as their president who just happens to be a VP in Socialistinternational.org. There’s a couple of SI links where you can read him addressing the crowd as “comrades”.

Clinton’s former economic advisor Joseph Stiglitz is also a member of SI and was one of the 17 people who advised the Pope on climate change some years ago.

SI states on their website that they want “nothing less than world government”. Given the breath and tentacles of this organization, I think its a matter of time before they have total control of the world. And given that the current president of communist China is on record of saying he’s for socialism as well as some of the past leaders of communist Russia, I can see a possible scenario where these ‘socialists’, once they have total control of the world, switch to communism and watch/monitor/control the entire world’s population 24/7/365…

What could go wrong?

Robert of Ottawa
September 25, 2018 11:29 pm

The Sun is spotless, we must send money.

Gary Ashe
September 26, 2018 12:28 am

The Don should call their bluff by offering to bet him a million his predictions are wrong.

Stephen Richards
September 26, 2018 12:50 am

Is this two years part of the same 4months that jugears Charles gave us or is it part of the same 5 years the UN gave us before.

I’m soooo confused

fred250
September 26, 2018 1:44 am

Sorry guys, but the tipping point is already here.
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It was warming slightly since the late 1970,s

Now its tipping into a cooling trend… NATURALLY.

knr
September 26, 2018 1:59 am

Guterres is planning a climate summit next year.

And of course the number of five start hotels and airport capacity for private jets will form an ‘important’ part of decided where to hold it .

The things to remember is those claiming ‘the end is nigh ‘ never say when this ‘nigh ‘ is .

Peta of Newark
September 26, 2018 2:51 am

aaaaaaand -what have we here?

A full grown adult male.
A bit in the large size. (Uno where this is going doncha)

He should be worldly wise, educated and experienced in ‘all things human’ – hence *why* he is in the elevated position he is – he is a Village Elder. Good. As it should be. All is well.

BUT – why is he talking so scared & frightened – why is he acting like a small child pleading for candy?
…….and he is not the only one, by a very long shot.

carbonoxide is *not* the problem here………..

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 26, 2018 3:10 am

Please do recognise that that was NOT an Ad-hom.
The guy has simply been doing (eating) what everyone else does and, in fact, what doctors and scientists (nearly) all tell us is good and healthy, supposedly for both mind and body.
He has been a ‘good’ and ‘model’ citizen. Stayed out of trouble and worked hard

If he does have a weakness, it was that he trusted the new crop of scientists.

He didn’t consult with *his* elders?

Was he ‘bought’ (many would suggest he has been) *or* is his memory and thought-processing failing?
Why might that be, considering that folks mentioned in the Bible got to be ‘3 score plus ten’ before encountering any serious problems?

Recall Mr Damiano’s words from yesterday…..

Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 26, 2018 9:54 am

Dunno, Peta, I think there’s something to be said about character (or lack of) showing up on one’s countenance….

Bruce Cobb
September 26, 2018 3:30 am

Two years…two years…two years…dang it, something else important happens in two years; I just can’t quite put my finger on it. It’ll come to me.

ozspeaksup
September 26, 2018 3:46 am

my local paper had someone with private? or donated funding run this crud as a halfpage ad today!
I am raging angry
some cluster calling emselves australia21
agenda 21 by any other name, obviously
will try and get a letter to editor published but..doubtful
very odd cos the editor pretty much avoids ALL climate topics.
guess she needed the money.
i bet the webpage they threw in is a no comment one too.

Sasha
September 26, 2018 4:24 am

Prince Charles said on 9 March 2009 that we only have 100 months to save the world.
Time ran out on 9 July 2017.

On 20 October 2009 Gordon Brown (PM at the time) said “We have fewer than fifty days to save our planet from catastrophe.”
49 days later, that clock ran out on 8 December 2009.

On 12 December 2007 the BBC declared the Arctic will be ice-free by 2013.

All the climate hysterics’ predictions, just like all their climate models, have been proved to be 100% wrong – something they never talk about, for some reason.

Steve O
September 26, 2018 5:01 am

Secretary-General, given that the alarmists have resoundingly lost the public policy debate, and there is zero momentum towards meeting your 2-year deadline, do you have any policy ideas that are based on that reality?

To be clear, you’re essentially saying that we’re going to experience runaway warming. Should we be doing whatever we can to make electricity inexpensive so that the poor can afford air conditioning, or should we be doing thing to make it more expensive so that they die?

September 26, 2018 6:39 am

The UN like the Pope is using climate to distract. Trump’s speech there did not mention Paris or Climate as far as I know – looks like climate is a gone bunny.
Very important that Bolton,Haley,Popmeo all echo Trump’s no-regime-change intent. And the UN is the place for such peace efforts – with the Westphalia Treaty engraved on its walls.
Compare that to Powell freaking out about Iraq.
Trump used the UN to press hard on sovereignty, for all nations. The speech is well worth reading to gauge Guterres’ “one climate imperialism”.

Jaakko Kateenkorva
September 26, 2018 8:22 am

Semantics has not proven to be UN forte, especially in their various efforts to rescue mankind from manmade armageddons. At this stage semantic malleability is a fair game both ways.

Therefore, I declare myself skeptical of photosynthesis strike by vegan food. Of course the UN can call their latest armageddon milestone however they like.

Similarly, taking into consideration Wikipedia semantics, tipping is commonly given to certain service sector workers for a service performed, as opposed to money offered for a product or as part of a purchase price. Perhaps the term the tipping point in two years should also be considered accordingly. The UN budget is biennial after all.

September 26, 2018 9:43 am

With all due respect, but I mean, really, would anybody trust that face?

Chino780
September 26, 2018 12:22 pm

The fact that people buy into this nonsense and listen to these people is the really scary thing. How can they not see they are being lied to?

rubberduck
September 26, 2018 2:58 pm

In 2009 Prince Charles warned that we only have 100 months to save the world: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/mar/08/prince-charles-monarchy

Does anyone know whether we’ve reached the 100 months? I have the same problem as all the deplorables on this site: once a number gets past my 23 fingers and toes, I have no way of keeping count.

gnomish
Reply to  rubberduck
September 27, 2018 2:16 am

learn binary-
you can count to 1048576 with your pants on.

John Endicott
Reply to  gnomish
September 27, 2018 6:10 am

Ok, first 23 fingers and toes? is rubberduck a mutant?

second 1048576 requires 21 digits, so normal people with only 20 digits (5 fingers each hand, 5 toes each foot) would need to take their pants off to reach that number (if male, females would have to find something else to count with). 1048575, on the other hand, only requires 20 digits, so pants can stay on.

gnomish
Reply to  John Endicott
September 27, 2018 11:40 am

oh, right. 0 – 104875. but unless you’re really excited, you can just remove your socks.
if you take your pants off, you can count to 2097151 and get on a registry.

John Endicott
September 27, 2018 6:00 am

we’ve passed the “point of no return”, multiple times. Several “tipping points” have come and gone. this “Pivotal moment” will be no different. as will all the many “Pivotal moments” yet to come and what ever over buzz words they come up with to say the same nonsense in future.

johann wundersamer
September 27, 2018 7:35 am

The solution lies in “reading UN”:

Russia done it to trick away Hillary – since then we must regress To Our Own Money.

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