Dear YouTube,
May I first say how pleased I am that climate misinformation videos on your platform will now carry informative links to official data sources correcting the lack of understanding and conspiracist ideation among the less scientifically educated of your viewers.
It’s difficult to know exactly where to start re-educating the sort of people that think somehow just because the Jet Stream has moved around a bit that a hot July doesn’t prove the need to adopt global communism to save us all from the sins of our capitalist folly.
As long as we live in a world in which bourgeois intellectuals are free to own private property and sit around in it thinking and writing what they like, we can only do what little we can to correct the error of their ways. Your commitment to party communications at the end of their silly YouTube clips is therefore a most welcome development and one with which I am delighted to be able to help, having found the following disinformation videos which you will no doubt want to amend with corrective messaging.
A man called Albert Gore can be seen here making a speech after receiving a Nobel prize.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhAYP_m4k0w
In it he claims arctic ice will be gone by the summer of 2014. A link to the Danish Meteorological Institute can show this to be nonsense. Sea ice is largely stable over the last 15 years, a little below average for sure but then Gore would know how it feels.
One “expert” Gore and conspiracy theorist sites like the Guardian are fond of citing is Professor Peter Wadhams. Within the climate community, his standing isn’t quite what you’d expect for a learned Cambridge professor, as indicated by a series of tweets from NASA’s climate chief, Gavin Schmidt, who took to twitter during one of Wadhams’ laughable presentations:
@ClimateOfGavin: Wadhams still using graphs with ridiculous projections with no basis in physics.
Wadhams has several videos on YouTube pronouncing “a farewell to ice”.
These should include the same health warnings as Gore’s. He’s also no stranger to conspiracy theories and has claimed MI5 and “big oil” was behind the tragic deaths of three well known climate scientists, including one who was struck by lightning.
He also apparently failed to report an attempt on his own life only through fear of being labelled a loony, which you might think was preferable to being murdered. Given your recent ban on another well known conspiracy theorist, perhaps just links to authoritative sources might not be enough, I urge you to consider an outright ban.
Other suspect sites like the New York Times have been promoting the idea that the world is beset by wildfires caused by climate change. Even a cursory examination of the data can show this to be propagandist nonsense.
Links to official figures showing the continuing decline in global burn acreages should be provided at the end of any of their stories.

In the UK, an outlet called the BBC has been pushing a far-fetched idea that the world could somehow experience run away global warming and turn into a hothouse.
Again these clips should be qualified by links to authoritative sources explaining scientific concepts like evaporation and clouds and how this must be nonsense otherwise it would have happened in the time of the dinosaurs when the world was anything up to 13° warmer.
So keep up the good work and I’ll keep my eyes peeled for any more disinformation.
Sincerely yours, Tom Peer
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If it is necessary to add links to official sources to videos posted by skeptics it is also necessary to add links to statistical and methodological errors in the videos of the official sources.
https://chaamjamal.wordpress.com/2018/05/27/spurious-correlations-in-climate-science-2/
https://chaamjamal.wordpress.com/2018/06/25/a-greenhouse-effect-of-atmospheric-co2/
https://chaamjamal.wordpress.com/2018/05/06/tcr-transient-climate-response/
The “warning” text is supposed to be something like
“Global warming
Global warming also referred to as climate change, is the observed century-scale rise in average temperature of the Earth’s climate and its related effects. Multiple lines of scientific evidence show that the climate system is warming.”
as pictured here
http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/08/08/youtube-adding-fact-checks-to-videos-that-question-climate-change/
under the Prager video of Richard Lindzen’s presentation – WHICH ACTUALLY SAYS EXACTLY THAT, namely, that the Earth’s climate has been warming since the end of Little Ice Age. So can we expect that this text (or equivalent) will be also displayed under videos that actually falsify the existing scientific evidence?
Not really because that it is not the point of this exercise to supposedly warn viewers of scientifically skewered videos. It is YouTube and Google acting as bellwethers, a warning to all true AGW believers to ignore the skeptic video, quite in line with the ‘othering’ technique described in this posting
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/23/why-its-so-hard-to-convince-warmists/
Take a reality check, galls & guys: warmists have much more money and influence then skeptics, so they can engage in such costly propaganda campaigns. Scientific truth has nothing to do with it, maintaining their income (and even increasing it) does.
miso
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You post on youtube
Google provides the servers and bandwidth for free.
Other people can post on your video if you open comments.
Google can play ads on your video.
Google can ALSo add their own comments indicating that your video is fiction, conspiract crap
or whatever.
They have no obligation to allow you to post whatever you want.
Just as you can comment on commenters or delete comments,
Google too gets to say what they want to say on the page THEY provide you
for hosting.
dont like that?
https://peertube.live/
there is no constitutiona right to a platform. You get what you pay for. You paid zip for youtube
and should not be surprised that they will exert control.
build a better mousetrap.
The same way that WUWT is Anthonys house and he gets to make the rulz
Youtube is googles house.
If you take a dump in Foyer, then expect them to dis invite you, or put up a sign.
Who gets to decide what is fake news? the houseowner.
Tough.
I think the government should do something about it.
Other people think the government should do something about c02.
Some people should understand that some governments have done something about it (US, UK, and others), despite all the hand-wringing about inaction, and it doesn’t appear to have changed anything.
To have any chance of reducing global CO2 levels, there would need to be concerted effort by every government, and then and only then would there be an opportunity to measure the effect, if any, of the reduction (if, indeed, it did result in a reduction).
System lags. You dont have to measure the effect. Physics tell you all you need to know.
No, physics does not tell us all we need to know. Physics tells us the hard facts, the measurable facts. The interpretation is up to politics, scientists and activists. That’s a very different thing. Physics only tells us CO2 can re-emit infrared radiation. Beyond that, it’s all guesses and interpretation, agendas and reputations to defend.
You made my point. Physics tells you all you need to know. The hard facts. GHGs warm the planet, you cannot emit them with zero effect.
That is all you need to know. think harder
GHG’s warm the planet. To what extent?
No one claims they have no effect. Try voiding using straw man arguments — think harder.
The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. How many years of quality, non-adjusted, non- proxy climate data do we have?
To suggest that we know the global temperature in 1850 to one tenth of one degree Celsius is not only completely absurd, it is also completely unscientific.
And the Physics shows it is all B.S.
No the physics is fine, your filter is the problem and that is why posting lies on Youtube should be called out.
Ryan,
The lab physics shows that a doubling of CO2 should produce warming of 1.1 or 1.2 degree C. But that’s without feedbacks in the complex climate system.
Actual observations show that the warming is less than that, which is what one should expect on a self-regulating water planet. Rather and IPCC’s antiscientific fantasy of positive feedbacks and 3.0 or 4.5 degrees C.
Biology says CO2 is what plants need to grow, and that it is good for trees to have more CO2 in the atmosphere.
Mann´s hockey stick shows that trees grow faster when it is warmer. Well, at least YAD06 did. And that is good for the planet.
Doing something about CO2 is not the same as trying, via extreme wealth and monopolies, to remove freedom of speech and create a state science. I doubt you’d be so philosophical if this created a state religion, which could be done EXACTLY the same way.
look who is alarmist now.. too funny.
Youtube cannot remove your freedom of speach. You have no right to post anything you like on their platform.
it is THEIR PROPERTY. they provide the servers, NOT YOU.
they pay for the bandwidth, not you.
Now if YOU post a video, do you have to let any clown comment on your video? Nope. you can censor people, just as anthony can censor people here.
Its a sad day when I have to explain this on WUWT.
State science? Nobody is stopping you from proving that AGW theory is wrong.
go ahead, get your nobel prize.
In response to user reports, we have disabled some features of Steven Mosher,
including comments, sharing, likes/dislikes, and suggested videos,
because he posts content that may be inappropriate or offensive to some audiences.
Enjoy the silence.
Nobody forces you to post to Youtube. If you want an uncensored hosting service just go to the dark web. Nobody can force Anthony to let my comments through. His choice.
His house. There is an internet outside of google and FB, go find it. If I am silenced here I just move. My choice. Silenced on youtube? start your own.
Freedom aint free.
This is one of those rare occasions that Steven has hit the nail on the head.
Everyone who disapproves of the new censorship policies incrementally implemented by Google after it bought out YouTube can simply vote with their feet.
An exodus occurs to a new or current platform, which requires a vast network of new servers to accommodate the traffic. The redundant duplication of infrastructure has a “carbon footprint”, but only a few people like Steven Mosher express any concern about it, or complain about the waste of resources involved in continuously trying to circumvent the Thought Police.
Google buys out the new platform, then partner’s with governments, NGOs and special individuals to censor or censure content — like it does with YouTube.
“Freedom ain’t free,”said Steve in a moment of Confucian. I think he meant, “it’s only for those who can afford it.”
You obviously have not heard of the distributed web, IPFS, and the work a bunch of us are doing to create a web infrastructure that cannot be controlled or censored.
you guys whine about your freedoms like a bunch of snowflakes, while those of us with foresight and imagination are building a place where you cant be censored. It wont happen overnight.
Talk is cheap
No one forces you to post here. Same thing. You can be silenced and best of all, you think it’s the right thing to do.
Henceforth, there should be a box that occasionally appears and says “Steven Mosher advocating removing his comments”
to remind people of how open-minded you are.
Are you that clueless?
Can anthony post anything he likes on his blog? think hard now.
No. he is limited by the law and by wordpress TOS.
Interesting Example. There are some activities that are legal in one
jurisdiction, but illegal in another.
Does anthony post things here that he disagrees with ? youtube is doing the
same thing. Under the video they provide a link to wikipedia
Look, if the video is solid, and people are linked to the “other side”
dont you trust them use their brains and evalaute both sides?
dont the moderators here make decisions about what gets through?
you have no right to post whatever you like here or on youtube.
youtube is making a decision about what it will allow, and what it will comment on by linking to the “other side”
Personally I would run youtube differently. But rather than just complain,
I’ll go work on technology that makes censorship harder.
you go on blabbing, and do nothing. typical.
Now that YouTube has because something of a mass social resource, instead of just a niche on the Internet, it’s OK and even desirable for it to post warning notices on videos that are seen by society to be crankish or worse—even though mistakes will be made (some crankish views will turn out to be correct, or at least within the Overton window) and even though bias will result in unfair signage and non-signage (of cranks ideas that are socially acceptable).
What’s bad is going beyond warning notices to banning, which social media sites have recently done. They should have employed warning notices first.
In a gray area is shadow-banning and low-ranking (or no-ranking) of relevant but anti-consensus items in search results.
In the long run, if global temperatures cool or run flat, these warning notices will become an embarrassing albatross around the neck of establishment authority, de-legitimizing the views of Wikipedia (on certain types of subjects, at a minimum).
I understand that (which is why I deleted my Facebook account), but, I think you are missing the point. Of course youtube is within it’s rights as a ‘free platform’ provider to allow or disallow whatever content they wish, but, that isn’t what they are doing. They are making judgements about the ‘quality’ of the content and adding ‘editorial’ content to ‘some’ videos (of their choosing), making them a ‘publisher’ rather than a provider of a service.
Youtube should (and has every right to) delete posted videos they deem ‘misinformation/fake news’, not provide ‘counter arguments’ to them. Doing so they leave the ‘simple provider of a free platform’ and become a media outlet with all the obligations that engenders.
Yes, as soon as they start “owning” the content, which is implied in their marking of the videos, they become subject to all kinds of legal obligations.
“They are making judgements about the ‘quality’ of the content and adding ‘editorial’ content to ‘some’ videos (of their choosing), making them a ‘publisher’ rather than a provider of a service.”
1. They have the right to provide their own view. The same way Anthony takes a science
piece and supplies his own view.
2. You want a debate? Your video provides side A, youtube points to side B.
afraid much?
3. Providing a link to a different view is no different than providing link to related
videos.
And you would be fully in favor of YouTube labelling warmist videos as “bad science” if a skeptical group acquired the medium. Sure you would.
Yes I would. Anthony takes science content, posts it and then comments that it is bad.
I support that. You see, I am not afriad of seeing the other side.
Youtube tells me X is bad. Thanks for your opinion youtube, I will judge for myself.
Not a sheeple like you who demands a place to say what you like without contradiction.
And owrse not only do you demand a place where you cant be contradicted, you want it without paying.
YouTube hosts misinformation sites like Amplex.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_kj5J9ET4JC97c8AwIZGTw
I wonder if they’ll start placing Wikipedia entries about extraterrestrial UFOs below videos refuting Illuminati conspiracy theories?
I fully agee with those that think this was a bad decision for the warmists. None likes to be told what to think, and the bias in FB, Google, Utube only becomes extremely clear. This will backfire on them, the confidence inn MSM will god even further down. And this is also a clear evidence that they are becomming desperate. The sense that they are loosing the information battle. Just let them shoot themselves in the feet.
C’mon now, play the game and try a contrary view.
They mean well and how would you prove otherwise? They have good intentions by the truck-load. They have the computers/servers and computer grunt to power this thing plus boundless electrical power to keep it afloat.
It ‘helps’ them, to maintain their Bubbles of Magical Thought and exist within same. It is fuzzy warm cuddly and nice. A return to the womb.
And likewise for a huge number of punters. By virtue of *their* drug habits (carbohydrate food, refined sugar, alcohol, cannabis, opiate, caffeine, Ibuprofen, Fluoxetine and other less-than-legal shit) they are all inside Magical Thought Bubbles and this kind of stuff will help them.
It removes the need to think about stuff. It makes life easier, fuzzy cuddly and warm and aids in their return to the womb.
It is thus self sustaining. (Sustaining – now there’s a good and contemporary buzzword. This is so sweet just as Google hoped for)
What Is Not To Like?
Possibly only (or certainly) any engineering types will see the catch – it is a positively fed back loop.
But what do engineers know. They just make stuff. They don’t ‘do’ high ideals and engage in World Saving so let’s just ignore them…
Excellent start.
Turn these officious ignorant bigots arguments against them.
We should start reviewing youtube and actually filing complaints against the alarmist anti-science videos.
We should start posting videos in youtube and elsewhere listing the mistakes in alarmist videos.
Micro$oft is threatening deplatforming of GAB.ai alt-network. Tech oligarchs will get around to all alternatives soon enough.
So the rational, scientific people can’t overcome tech oligarchs? What kind of people are we? Please don’t tell me it’s “sooooo hard”. Everything worthwhile is hard. Get out there and crush the oligarchs.
OTOH I’d argue this is actually funnier with the wikipedia entry there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc
How cute! I like the “facial” expression of the tree!
CLOUD CONTROL: Isn’t it time someone pointed out that there is nothing to be scared of as warmings have been regularly and repeatedly curtained in the last millio year climate record by warmer seas producing water vapour that turns into clouds that COOL the planet by conducting heat to abolute zero’ish space and by reflecting the dominant incoming solar energy back into space to maintain equilibrium. We are at the warmest possible level of this cycle and wit the highest sea levels. Going up in any significant way is unlikely, the clouds will shut it down at the levels of temperature and humidity that form clouds that we are at. CO2 is tiny sideshow in terms of global climate control, and certainly cannot overcome the clouds, as it fails to do at the termination of each interglacial warming..
While there are oceans this basic and dominant mechanism of control just works, scary models of actually tiny but over amplified by computer modellers CO2, and other trace gases, are based on simple erroneous assumptions about increased water vapour levels at interglacial temperatures, which is negative feedback to increasing temperatures, on the clear record. Not runaway warming. It doesn’t work like that. The IPCC is simply wrong, and its models are based on plainly erroneous assumptions that deny the established reality of the ice age cycle.
ACO2 at 1W/m^2, or whatever it really is (less) is is a tiny effect compared to clouds regulating the c.240W/m^2 reaching the surface, that the clouds manage quite well, plus any dust and other particulates that also help form clouds by nucleation. This is well known science from the records of the recent stable ice age cycles between clear and very tight historic temperature limits , average c.8 degrees in 288 Kelvin, that prefer ice ages but every 100Ka “suddenly” warms, due to some unknown effect of planetary orbital eccentricity, by 12 degrees at the poles, 5 degrees at the equator, over 7Ka, 0.02 deg pa. Nothing happens suddenly in human terms. This delivers the steady few thousand year warm snap we enjoy before the planet cools back to an ice age for another >70Ka until the process repeats itself on the MIlankovitch 100Ka eccentricity cycle. No runaway occurs, although the warming ends while CO2 is at record levels and rising.
SO HOW DOES SUCH A RELENTLESS RISE END? Simple. The sudden and rapparently elentless “runaway” warming is firmly ended by the very obvious effect of increased clouds and precipitation, as ice albedo reduction also ends as it recedes behind the polar circles, all in the well studied geological record. THis happens while CO2 is still rising, as more is degassed from the warming oceans, but self evidently has an insignificant effect on the dominat climate control of clouds at the level of humidity prevailing at the higher atmospheric temperature levels, which the oceans control and must track by equilibrium at the contact surface.
Clouds must have been the dominant control of climate since there were oceans, certainly for the last million years. Beacause it happens like this and there isn’t another effect anywhere near powerful enough to exert such a controlling force on climate.
For planet Earth, “IT’S ABOUT THE CLOUDS, STUPID”. They correct for Earth induced warming variations as well as incoming solar power variation, which has been significant. What else really can?
All these other small effects are largely scientific introspection to produce papers and make money from science. Fake or real, its conclusions are all in the noise of planetary climate, marginal and destructive of more useful initiatives we can spend out treasure upon to protect people from real problems in fact, much of them social problems of more people in living in marginal or dangerous environments they should not be in.
Carbon reduction remedies are wholly bogus of course. Whatever small effect these natural trace gasses, including our effect on them, may have relative to serious planetary scale controls, the controlling clouds will easily deal with such marginal effects with the tiniest increase or decrease. It’s just obvious. But this natural solution, that has preserved our equilibrium as most hospitable to life just above the temperature liquid water freezes, and well below where it boils, can’t be exploited to create a lot of jobs and energy subsidies for making energy supply worse in every way, to no useful gain for the people paying, and with no significant effect on the cloud control. *
*Technical Note: Renewables are inherently weak enrgy sources, resource intensive and inadequate, and subsidies can’t cahnge these phsyical limits. Renewables cannot in technical delivery fact usefully reduce CO2 at grid energy supply level versus the better solutions of gas replacing coal then nuclear, nor are they adequate to power most countries grids at today’s level without the 100% back up of the their fossil hosts on the grid. Renewables on their own are a wholly delusional solution for most countries, not enough renewable energy can be captured at whatever cost, not when needed, peak demand occurs at lowest renewable supply for many, and batteries are VERY, VERY expensive, hold very small amounts of energy per $ and and don’t generate any – so where’s the energy coming from? All in direct technical fact, no consensus required. Examples on request. Or just watch Sir David MacKay’s last TV interview, the UK DECC’s Cheif Scientist for most of the Department’s life, and his very direct “appalling delusion” statement. Always worth a watch if you are not in touch with the engineering and scientific reality of grid energy delivery.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/03/idea-of-renewables-powering-uk-is-an-appalling-delusion-david-mackay?CMP=share_btn_fb
nb: The Guardian has suppressed its copy of this video in their report so their link doesn’t work anymore. The YouTube video is still there.
https://youtu.be/sCyidsxIDtQ
Sir David MacKay said:
“We want a zero-carbon solution.”
For the UK, MacKay condemns grid-connected wind and solar, due to intermittency and seasonal variation. OK – correct so far.
Then Mackay’s solution for the UK is Nuclear and Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS). Nuclear – maybe, but regarding CCS, he is WRONG!
Atmospheric CO2 concentrations are not dangerously high, they are DANGEROUSLY LOW FOR THE CONTINUED SURVIVAL OF LIFE ON EARTH.
Reference:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/02/carbon-leak-may-have-warmed-the-planet-for-11000-years-encouraging-human-civilization/#comment-2419813
Don’t trust anything our UK BBC (British Biased Controllers) transmit – I’m not going to renew the expensive licence fee next year with their CRAP NEWS (Climate Research Always Pays Never Ending Wasteful Science); they pulled Prof David Bellamy off air because his views were not in line with the CAGW scam; they are also linked to the Open University who are strong CAGW advocates – it’s big business!
Well said. The BBC has been “promoting” a story that the sea level will rise by TWO FEET in this century (I think). This is ludicrous and they should be fined for putting out such drivel.
Please U-Tube stop! By jumping on the climate bandwagon and pretending to know that humans can control the weather through our energy systems you make it clear to all you have no clue. Then you lend your reputation to the cause of vaccines which have saved hundreds of millions of lives and still do today. The uninformed observer can only assume that vaccine science is as ill founded as global warming theories. You can’t do anything but harm pretending to be an authority when, to any sane observer, you are totally hoodwinked by the least persuasive evidence ever to be published in supposedly scientific journals. There is plenty of room for controversy around some vaccines and the industry and commerce attached to same, but no one should be led to believe that the basic childhood vaccines are anything but a huge advantage to all and especially to our young. Your endorsement, once you have jumped on the climate bandwagon, is as useful as a celebrity dissertation on autism.
This is the problem with deciding you have the right to censor. It comes with the requirement to know what is right. But you clearly don’t. If you want to be a climate zealot admit it and stay away from real science. Consider the harm you may do as you legitimize people’s skepticism of things that really matter. The climate mafia are the same ones who deny reliable cheap electricity to the poorest on this planet. Among all of the other downsides of this energy imperialism is the fact that getting safe vaccines to the most in need requires refrigeration and transport – guess what those depend on.
Safe vaccines is an oxymoron
I think you’re wrong in assuming Youtube don’t want to cause harm.
Baltimore Bubs
“YouTube is a private enterprise. They can allow or disallow whatever information they want.”
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► That is the old “blacks can eat at a different restaurant” argument.’ – Tony Heller
And those restaurants aren’t entirely “private” enterprises…
‘That is the old “blacks can eat at a different restaurant” argument.’ – Tony Heller’
That’s just simplistic nonsense. If anyone wants to use such a facile comparison, better would be: ‘That is the old “conspiracy-theorists, tin-foil hat wearers, or fake-news spreaders can use their own versions of Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc.” argument.’
(And I wish they would go and do that, leaving the rest of us to enjoy the popular, rational services without all that irrational, ‘skeptical’ rubbish that clogs up the Internet and persuades only the gullible and misinformed)
err no it is not the same as the argument about racial discrimination.
U.S. Code Title 42, Chapter 21-Civil Rights
Business can discriminate against the stupid, heller should know.
Guess what Heller used to have publishing rights here at WUWT
BUT
he was stupid and refused to admit an obvious error, so Anthony did the right thing
and discriminated against the stupid.
heller left, found his own place so the stupid lives on
Google (Alphabet) is a publicly held company. Their board of directors have a fiduciary duty to all of their shareholders and stakeholders.
Making corporate decisions based on SJW ideas can and will negatively impact shareholder value. Unfortunately, the only remedy shareholders have is through civil litigation.
Google was developed with funding from DARPA, meaning YOUR TAXES AT WORK. The fastidious ignoring of such facts in defense of the Ministry of Truth is disturbing.
“Conspiracy theorist” is an Orwellian epithet having no purpose but to enforce a taboo. Conspiracy is the most prosecuted crime on the planet. Theory is just a fancy word for “explanation”
When the establishment feeds the populace a conspiracy theory about Russian interference in elections, the establishment Thought Police don’t get excited and start bludgeoning people with their favorite Orwellian epithet in a desperate effort to control the narrative.
Only non-establishment conspiracy theories are BAD, and need to be CENSORED to protect ordinary people from committing thought crimes
And that’s what this Soviet-style purge of the social networks in the lead up to the mid-term election is all about – determining the postmodern socially-constructed version of “reality”.
e.g. “”You’re not going to be President”
I bet the laughing guy is a white supremacist LOL
“MI5 and “big oil” was behind the tragic deaths of three well known climate scientists, including one who was struck by lightning”. To be fair – MI5 have spent billions making these lighting strike assassinations look entirely natural
hehehehe
The problem of course is that what science says is often incomplete, and what advocates say is not in the science (like Wadhams) espc about the future. The Left has always been about shutting down critics and environmentalists have always been about making wild claims. Do they get “checked”? hahah no.
The other conceit is that even when the science is stated correctly this is claimed to immediately and without question necessitate their preferred policy option. Even if is going to get 3 deg hotter, this does not mean that windmills are useful or that a carbon tax will work or that dropping iron filings in the ocean is a nifty idea. The assumed causal link is not real.
Google of course is a huge user of electrical power. Like Apple, it builds server farms in the Pacific NW to take advantage of cheap hydro power, but elsewhere the tech giants rely on fossil fuels.
The hydro power that used to fuel aluminum refineries now goes into server farms.
The Ministry of Truth has arrived. They will tell you what to think. Be very afraid.
1984 was supposed to be a warning not a “how-to” book.
Who, just watched “Sir Anthony” run at Arlington Park in a $100,000 race, and didn’t bet a penny on it cause it seemed too easy.
I did, it won at 35-1.
Onward and upward!!!, and “F” me.
I know someone who tried to report YouTube to itself for spamming climate videos. Really, isn’t that what they’re doing?
They’ve taken an alarmist position, so how is it any different than an alarmist who trolls climate skeptics’ videos?
Also, the last I knew, YouTube isn’t a climate scientist, and adding to our content is no different than someone hacking our accounts. It’s no longer a social media site, it’s a leftist political site. They have no objectivity whatsoever.
It’s starting now at Vimeo. They removed Alex Jones videos. What’s next?
One man’s Fake Science is another man’s entrenched government financed vocation.
The proponents of anthropogenic-caused global warming invariably, and ironically, DENY that the Medieval Warming Period (MWP, 1,000 years ago) was global and likely warmer than it is now. These folks acknowledge only that Europe experienced the MWP. They likely take this unjustifiable position because their computer models cannot explain a global, warmer MWP. Why? Because their models require an increasing co2 level, plus depend even more on the built-in ASSUMPTION that water vapor feedback, the actual culprit, causes 2 to 3 times the temperature increase as brought on by the increase in co2. However, co2 did not increase during the MWP nor for hundreds of thousands of years before the MWP.
With no co2 increase there is obviously also no temperature increase brought on by water vapor feedback. The MWP global temperature increase must have therefore been strictly due to natural climate variation. It therefore becomes plausible that our current warming (such as it is) may also be mostly due to NATURAL climate variation. But that, of course, conflicts with the UN’s IPCC (and other alarmists’) claim that our current warming is mostly due to the human-caused increase in co2 level.
However, it’s easy to show that the MWP was indeed both global and at least as warm as now. While that says nothing about the cause of our current warming (such as it is) it speaks loudly about the credibility of the folks who DENY that the MWP was global and at least as warm as now. Most alarmists also insist that the “science is settled”.
A brief meta-analysis, using numerous peer-reviewed studies as well as other easily accessible data follows which demonstrate that the MWP was indeed global and at least as warm as it is now.
First, the MWP trend is conclusively shown to have been global by borehole temperature data. The 6,000 boreholes scattered around the globe are not constrained to just those locations where ice core data has been used. A good discussion of the borehole data can be found at Joanne Nova’s website.
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/the-message-from-boreholes/
Next, the receding Alaskan Mendenhall glacier recently exposed a 1,000-year-old shattered forest, still in its original position. No trees (let alone a forest) have grown at that latitude anywhere near that site since the MWP. It was obviously significantly warmer in that part of Alaska than it is now, and Alaska is quite distant from Europe.
There have been hundreds of peer-reviewed MWP studies, and the earlier results (showing a global, warmer MWP) were acknowledged in earlier IPCC reports. These studies were carried out around the globe by investigators and organizations representing numerous countries. It’s curious that Mann and his cohort did not give more consideration to those study results before presenting their conflicting “hockey stick” claim. In fact, one of their own players, Phil Jones, admitted publicly that if the MWP was global and as warm as now then it is a different “ballgame”. More important, peer-reviewed studies continue to regularly show up, also confirming that the MWP was warmer than now.
The Greenland Temperature study (gisp2), for example, shows, among other things, that Greenland was warmer during the MWP than it is now. Greenland is distant from both Europe and Alaska.
The numerous MWP peer-reviewed studies have been cataloged at the co2science.org website. Dr. Idso, the proprietor of that website, is a known skeptic. However, the peer-reviewed studies were independently performed by numerous researchers, representing dozens of countries, using various temperature proxy techniques. Idso is merely operating as the librarian. These studies now span several decades and new confirming investigations continue to show up regularly.
Interested readers should satisfy themselves by going to co2science.org and choosing (say) a half-dozen regions (all should be remote from Alaska, Greenland, and Europe). Focus on the subset of the MWP studies which directly address temperature. Choose at least one temperature study from each selected region. (Idso provides brief summaries but feel free to review the study in its original format.) You will find that each of the selected study sites was warmer during the MWP than now. These study results are also consistent with the temperature trend exhibited by borehole data.
There are also other confirming observations which include such things as antique vineyards found at latitudes where grapes cannot be grown today, old burial sites found below the perma-frost, and Viking maps of most of Greenland’s coastline.
The MWP peer-reviewed studies as well as various other data are all consistent with the borehole data results. This meta-study is an aggregate of straightforward peer-reviewed studies. The studies can be replicated and the research results do NOT require the use of controversial “models”, or dubious statistical machinations.
One of the “talking points” posed by alarmists, to “rebut” the claim of a global, warmer MWP is their requirement that warming in all regions during the MWP must be synchronous. Obviously the MWP studies were generally performed independently, so start and end dates of each study during the MWP may vary. However, anyone foolish enough to accept that “synchronous” argument must then admit that our current warming would also not qualify as a global warming event.
For example, many alarmists go back into the 1800s when making their claims about the total global warming temperature increase. However, that ignores a three decade GLOBAL cooling period from about 1945 to 1975. That globally non-synchronous period is much more significant than just a region or two being “out of synch”. The entire world was “out of synch”. Their global warming considerations must therefore be constrained to the relatively brief warming beginning in 1975.
There are also other reasons to exclude consideration of temperature increases during the 1800s. There was a significant NATURAL warming beginning around 1630 (the first low temperature experienced during the LIA) and that period of increasing temperatures continued until at least 1830 (perhaps until 1850) before co2 began increasing. However, it would have taken many subsequent decades, possibly more than a century, for co2 increase after 1830, at an average 2 ppmv per year, to accrue sufficiently before having ANY impact on thermometer measurements. Neither is there any reason to expect that the 200 years of natural and significant warming beginning in 1630 ended abruptly after 2 centuries merely because co2 level began increasing in 1830 at a miniscule 2ppmv per year. Also, how much, and for how long was the temperature increase after 1830 due mostly to the continuing natural climate warming beginning in 1630?
Any current considerations about global warming must be constrained to a starting point following the cooling which ended in 1975. The global temperature began steadily increasing in 1975 and that increase basically terminated during the 1997/98 el Nino. Even the IPCC (a bureaucracy which cannot justify its mission if current warming is NATURAL) has reluctantly acknowledged a GLOBAL “hiatus” in temperature increase following 1998. (Please recall that this is in spite of the fact that co2 level has steadily continued increasing since it started around 1830-1850.
NASA, in comparing recent candidate years for “hottest” year devoted significant time to wringing its hands about differences of a few hundredths of one degree. Such miniscule differences are not significant because the uncertainty error is at least one tenth of a degree. Some argue that the uncertainty error is significantly larger.
So, this current “global warming” controversy merely involves just over two decades, (1975 to 1998) and that warming has been followed by almost another two decades of no further statistically significant increase in temperature. But it turns out that even the period from 1975 to 1998 apparently does not qualify as a global warming period because there were numerous “out of synch” regions and/or countries which have experienced no additional warming over durations which include the 1975-1998 span.
http://notrickszone.com/2018/02/18/greenland-antarctica-and-dozens-of-areas-worldwide-have-not-seen-any-warming-in-60-years-and-more/#sthash.5Hq7Xqdh.JsV4juVL.dpbs
Another alarmist rebuttal attempt is that the MWP studies cataloged by co2science.org have been cherry-picked. (Dozens of peer-reviewed studies spanning several decades, plus various other well known facts, all cherry-picked?) Readers should satisfy themselves by searching for conflicting credible peer-reviewed MWP temperature studies which have not been cataloged by co2science.org. But, keep in mind that a few stray conflicting studies will not likely have much impact, because, as the previous link demonstrates, there is no shortage of regions showing no increasing warming during the supposedly 1975-1998 global warming period.
Yes. The most rapid warming on the historical record (CET and Armagh) is from1968-1730. Then there’s the temperature rise since 1840, punctuated by cooling from 1880-1910, the rise from 1910-1940, the cooling from 1940-1965, the rise from 1970-1998, and the statistical plateau since then, all during the almost uninterrupted rise of CO2. Of course, there was that period from 1929-1931 when human production of CO2 declined by 30% and temps kept rising to 1940.
CO2 is vitally important, but at current levels, at this time, is one of the least important factors for climate change.
50% of its GHG effect is in the first 20 ppm, and it declines exponentially after that. We are in the fifth half-life of that decline.
oops. 1680-1730. Fumblefingers.
No, the only time the world was 13C warmer was at the P-T extinction excursion. The dinosaurs basked at temps 3-7C warmer. The Eemian, 120,000 years ago, was 1C warmer with seas 6+ meters higher. The world has spent about half of the last 500 million years in the vicinity of 22C.
But bravo on the general treatment. Shame on youtube/google.