Climate Change and Fear of Change are Natural Conditions Easily Exploited Because People Don’t Understand Amount and Extent of Change

Guest opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

Richard Hooker explained,

“Change is not made without inconvenience, even when from worse to better.”

People know change occurs. They also know it always has and always will. They know that when it occurs everyone is inconvenienced as Hooker observed and some gain and some lose. They fear change because they might be in the loser group but don’t know.

The general condition and view of change in the natural world were reinforced and promoted in western science by a philosophy developed by Hutton and Playfair. The latter was a Church of Scotland minister, mathematician, and naturalist who promoted James Hutton’s work on the theory of the earth called uniformitarianism. It entered mainstream thinking because it provided a basis for Sir Charles Lyell’s thinking in his famous book, Principles of Geology. It became even more pervasive because Darwin took a Lyell’s book with him on his famous Beagle voyage. Darwin acknowledged in his journals that it along with Thomas Malthus’ essay on population together with the fossil evidence were most influential in his theory “On the Origin of Species.” The basic tenet of uniformitarianism is that change is very gradual over long periods of time. It replaced the biblical view of Neptunism that events were either pre- or post-Noah’s flood.

Darwin’s theory was never tested, as normally occurs in the scientific method. His theory of evolution was used by the scientific establishment of the time to defeat religion. Unfortunately, this painted science into a corner. It meant that if anybody challenged Darwin, they were automatically branded as creationists. An example of the level of scientific elitism in existence at the time was the shunning of probably one of the greatest scientists of all time. However, don’t take my word for it he was one of three, along with Newton and Maxwell, scientific heroes of Einstein. He had pictures of all three on his office wall. Faraday’s sins were that he did not have a university education and he belonged to a very strict fundamental religious group called the Sandemanians.

The general theme of the challenges to Darwin, who was aware as anyone of the limitations of his ideas, is that natural selection is a well-observed phenomenon. The problem comes in the evolution portion where there is no evidence to support the increasing evolutionary tree of speciation (Figure1).

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Figure 1

Two good books on the subject are Michael Denton’s, “Evolution: A Theory in Crisis,” and a second volume, “Evolution: Still a theory in Crisis.”

The failure to test Darwin’s theory is important, but of little consequence to most people. This is like some 40% of the European and American public still think the Sun goes around the Earth even though Copernicus showed it was the opposite 475 years ago. It doesn’t matter to most people. As long as the Sun rises and sets, everything is fine. It changed and became personal with implications for everybody when Darwin said we were animals and just another species of apes.

Another hypothesis with profound implications for everyone evolved in the 1960s and is generally known as anthropogenic global warming (AGW). Like Darwin’s work, it evaded the scientific method. It was never tested and became prey, ironically because he avidly supported Darwin, in Thomas Huxley’s observation 120 years ago

that,

The great tragedy of Science – the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact.”

 

An ugly fact appeared after 1998 that dealt a mortal blow to the beautiful AGW hypothesis. It was a beautiful hypothesis because it appeared to confirm the central thesis of the new paradigm of environmentalism that humans were a cancer on the planet. This ludicrous notion, which ignores humans as the most successful animal on the planet from a Darwinian perspective, even received credibility from supposedly thoughtful people. The AGW hypothesis assumed that an increase in CO2 would cause an increase in temperature. After 1998, the CO2 continued to increase, but temperature levelled. Promoters tried to ignore what was going on, but that caught the eye of those humorous cynics, the cartoonists (Figure 2).

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Figure 2

The people controlling the AGW deception were aware of what was happening. Emails from 2004 leaked from the University of East Anglia revealed the concern. Nick at the Minns/Tyndall Centre that handled publicity for the climate story said,

“In my experience, global warming freezing is already a bit of a public relations problem with the media.”

Swedish climate expert on the IPCC Bo Kjellen replied,

“I agree with Nick that climate change might be a better labelling than global warming.”

Many people noticed the change but didn’t understand the implications. It was still about global warming because CO2 had to remain the demon, but now change became the operative and important word. Promoters of the AGW scoured the world and filled the media with stories of change. The problem is they are all natural and well within natural variability. It resonated because the people listened with uniformitarian ears and minds. Supposedly educated people made innocuous statements sound menacing. Consider this comment from biologist Daniel Inouye and labelled an “accidental climate scientist” shows he doesn’t understand. The problems are most climate scientists are accidental, dealing with one small piece of a complex puzzle.

“These days, plants and animals are arriving at Rocky Mountain Biological Lab a week or two earlier than they were 30 years ago. The robins that used to arrive in early April now show up in mid-March. Marmots end their winter slumber ever earlier.”

Consider this 1772 quote from biologist, fur trader, and arctic explorer Samuel Hearne. His research and description of Arctic Fox and their behavior is still considered by many as the best. How does Inouye explain such significant change, cooling in this case, before AGW could have occurred?

“I have observed, during my several journeys in those parts that all the way to the North of Seal River the edge of the wood is faced with old withered stumps, and trees which have been flown (sic) down by the wind. They are mostly of the sort which is called here Juniper, but were seldom of any considerable size. Those blasted trees are found in some parts to extend to the distance of twenty miles from the living woods, and detached patches of them are further off; which is proof that the cold has been increasing in those parts for some ages. Indeed, some of the older Northern Indians have assured me that they have heard their fathers and grandfathers say, they remembered the greatest part of those places where the trees are now blasted and dead, in a flourishing state.

Hearne knew the context of this. The tree line advanced during the warmth of the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) then retreated in the cooling to the nadir of the Little Ice Age (LIA). This is what Hearne describes with his comment that this is “proof that the cold has been increasing in those parts for some ages.”

It is just 180 years since Louis Agassiz suggested the Earth experiences Ice Ages. It is so recent that most, even scientists, don’t realize that there were four phases in the recent Ice Age and that there have been possibly nine previous ice ages approximately every 250 million years. Most can’t imagine that just 20,000 years ago over half of North America was covered with an ice sheet larger in area than the current Antarctic ice sheet. Even more remarkable sea level was at least 130 meters lower than today (Figure 3). Amazingly, most of the ice melted in approximately 8000 years and sea level recovered in that same period.

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Figure 3

As climate change became the new target of the deception, many of us pushed back. When it was called global warming, those who challenged, were designated, skeptics. With the shift to climate change, they became deniers. The problem was that most, like me, spent their careers explaining to people how much climate changed all the time naturally. There was pushback because people noticed the change of name and knew climate changes, but they didn’t know how much and assumed it was small because of uniformitarianism.

The response of AGW supporters was to claim the change was more rapid than ever before. They argued that it was outside the natural rate, but it wasn’t. Most of the public didn’t know that because they are not even aware of how rapidly society changes.

It is just 85 years since Hitler came to power. How much has happened since then? World War II, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam War, the Internet, people on the moon, Satellites, Cell phones, collapse of communism, Jet airplanes, nuclear power, and you can add your own choice to the list. Who predicted any of it? Maybe somebody mentioned the possibility of one or two, but they are usually a result of randomness. The response to such an argument by AGW alarmists is that this is proof of it being a recent phenomenon.

A broad response is in English historian Arnold Toynbee’s observation that history is just one damn thing after another. I also urge you to read the diaries of Samuel Pepys (1633-1703). He began a diary in 1660 and kept it for almost ten years. It is a remarkable read and illustrates how much society changes all the time. For example, he watched Charles I executed and the monarchy replaced by a Republican government under Oliver Cromwell. Pepys’ served in that government and is primarily responsible for the development of the Royal Navy that became the vehicle of global power for the British Empire. Because of his position, he was on the Navy ship that brought Charles II back to England to restore the monarchy. Imagine in your working lifetime going from a monarchy to a republic and back to a monarchy. Fortunately, he only spent a short time in the Tower of London, but that was more because of suspicions he had Catholic leanings.

It is a cliché to say change is the norm, but what people don’t understand is how quickly and dramatically it occurs. That natural pattern is what made people innately afraid of change. People supporting AGW exploit that fear, but they also exploit it by using natural events and claiming they are unnatural and occurring faster than ever before.

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Michael Carter
June 26, 2018 1:41 am

“The failure to test Darwin’s theory is important, but of little consequence to most people.”

There is a heck of a lot more evidence supporting Darwin’s theory than that supporting the existence of God – for which there is none

How do you test a process that takes billions of years?

I find this essay to be most odd

Regards

M

June 26, 2018 2:49 am

Developing Professor Ball’s statement:-

“Most can’t imagine that just 20,000 years ago over half of North America was covered with an ice sheet larger in area than the current Antarctic ice sheet. Even more remarkable sea level was at least 130 meters lower than today (Figure 3). Amazingly, most of the ice melted in approximately 8000 years and sea level recovered in that same period.”

I have written a blog article showing that a similar thing happened in Europe and especially in the UK.
It is at:-
https://citizenjournalisthove.wordpress.com/2018/01/02/will-brighton-be-swallowed-by-the-sea

It also mentions the US and Australia.

Reply to  Dan Donnachie
June 26, 2018 3:52 am

The most interesting fact you have failed to discuss is that ALL life has exactly the same basic structure and chemistry, which says that it has only ever started exactly once! How we got to all the different forms is secondary to the question as to why the chemistry to produce life didn’t ever (over billions of years) happen a second time? It is statistically ridiculous to say that life is so unlikely to the extent that it couldn’t happen more than once, and a Darwin based evolution cannot work before you have a satisfactory means of reproduction, which the first living whatever cannot have had by definition. There was no second chance available if its slow changes ever led to death. Otherwise a complete reproducing entity must have occurred spontaneously to start Darwin’s process, with enough features to copy itself reliably built in. This is where evolution needs to answer fully, which it has not done to date.

Felix
Reply to  davezawadi
June 26, 2018 7:37 pm

Biological evolution doesn’t need to answer the origin of life. That’s not what it’s about.

Why life arose just once, or at most twice, and not again thereafter should be obvious, for two reasons. One, Earth four billion years ago was a very different place. Two, once life existed, any organic compounds undergoing chemical evolution would rapidly be devoured by the organisms which already existed.

It’s also possible that life arrived on Earth from outer space rather than developing here.

Reply to  Felix
July 2, 2018 5:48 am

That is no answer at all and precisely why Darwinism as the entire mechanism cannot be correct.
“Biological evolution doesn’t need to answer the origin of life. That’s not what it’s about.”
Really, but that is the real question, not why there is more than one species on Earth. If you cannot describe why and how life started, you cannot claim, as you have above, that it was not created. Usual thing then, no evidence, just a set of claims of dubious value!!! You need to define the beginning before you claim that AGW is true, the same as life. If you jump in later than the beginning you jump to false conclusions based on local phenomena just like Mann did. It then becomes a matter of politics which is valueless.

Peta of Newark
June 26, 2018 3:42 am

Oh dear.
169 comments so far concentrating on the pimple on Dr Ball’s nose.
(Nothing coherent on how the GHGE works = good – because the whole is incoherent, self contradictory and absurd)

Consider: A Rainforest.
Species rich in both plants and animals (ecologically diverse?)
But which came first – does the rain create the forest or does the forest create the rain?
Is it possible that The Forest creates its own weather/climate?
But why do rainforests and deserts exist at similar latitudes, similar solar radiation, cosmic rays similar everything really?

{Peta puts on Lawyer’s Hat: We now examine Cause & Effect so, did the diverse critters create the forest or maybe the weather created the critters and they created the trees? Are critters good Rain Dancers. or Gardeners? Do critters fall from the sky. Are clouds made of critters? Are clouds hot or cold? Black or white? Where did the multi coulor critters come from. More research is…..]

Like the dying Bobo trees we heard about recently, is it possible that something has been overlooked.
Is evolution killing the Bobo trees or has something been taken for granted?

Something that Victorian scientists could see with absolute clarity
Is this not the point of the essay here, the parlous state of current science?

Rich Davis
June 26, 2018 7:19 am

Thanks for the insightful article Dr Ball

Evolution was used to defeat religion. Climate change is used to defeat the market economy. It is not that evolution is a false idea or that the climate does not change that makes this objectionable. It is the dishonest use of science for hidden political purposes.

June 26, 2018 7:47 am

I have enormous respect for Tim Ball. He is a hero of the climate debate. We would not agree on evolution, but I do believe he would respect my opinion and arguments and I should respect his. Fortunately governments and advocacy groups are not trying successfully to force a new world order on the whole of society based on religious beliefs (except to the extent that CAGW could be considered a religion). Were it so we would all suffer because of course, there are a wide variety of religious interpretations of the world we live in, and in many ways they are in conflict with each other. History tells us all we want to know about religions in conflict, such that we would be best to avoid more of the same.

The global warming theory however is the basis of proposals for massive change in the whole industrial and social construct that would have devastating impacts on people and the natural world. Imagine 7.5 billion people trying to survive, feed themselves and their children and find security, without the energy that we depend on every minute. Imagine that every living thing is potential food, every tree potential fuel and every person a potential competitor for those resources. That is not the world we want and not one that most of us would survive. Sadly there are “environmentalists” who think the likely outcome of that would be good for the planet.

Felix
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
June 26, 2018 11:09 am

I’ve often paraphrased Dr. Ball’s analogy of a car with climate change, in which the sun is the engine, water vapor the transmission and CO2 is a lugnut on one wheel.

Like Dr. Spencer, he’s right on CACA and wrong on evolution, which is outside their areas of expertise.

Dave Anderson
June 26, 2018 8:14 am

history is just one damn thing after another.

Big argument about whether Toynbee said that. Apparently he did say LIFE is just one damn thing after another.

ODTAA.

jimB
June 26, 2018 8:26 am

As I understand Darwin he did not invent evolution just explained how it can occur. Random changes are tested by nature: the useful ones survive, the others die out. Makes me wonder why in hell we have an endangered species act.

Reply to  jimB
June 26, 2018 9:32 am

Your own statements contain the reason there are endangered species, but I suspect you are wondering why we are so foolish as to think that every endangered species should be preserved by human intervention in contrast to what natural selection seems to have in mind.

Joel Snider
Reply to  jimB
June 26, 2018 4:20 pm

Actually, Darwin didn’t really understand HOW evolution was happening, so much as saw that it WAS happening. He saw the process, not the details.

Felix
Reply to  Joel Snider
June 26, 2018 7:41 pm

Darwin’s contribution was to discover a major process explaining how evolution worked. Prior explanations had failed to do so, such as Lamarck’s attempt.

Many before Darwin saw that what was then called “development” had occurred, but couldn’t provide a good scientific explanation for it. Geologists knew that you could date rocks based upon the fossils in them.

Without such an explanation, the possibility was open that God simply created new species continuously. What is now called evolution was then referred to as “transmutation” of old species into new ones. That hypothesis was not only considered impious, but lacked a good natural explanation, which Darwin provided.

Edwin
June 26, 2018 8:42 am

Having been a “change agent” and worked for a “change agent” one thing I learned is that the majority of people know that change is continual yet at the same time they hate change. They really hate people telling them profound change is coming at which point they begin to push back. The longer you give them to ponder the coming change the less they like it, not more. It may be the biggest problem the CAGW crowd are facing. They keep “screaming” change is coming. Yet not knowing history they fail to realize they just end up sounding a lot like religious zealots of the past, meeting on a hill on a given date with all their believers, waiting for the second coming.

Joel Snider
June 26, 2018 12:12 pm

This is why we are at a disadvantage with the least informed.

June 26, 2018 2:40 pm

Great post.
“Theories supporting theories supporting theories suppo….”
“The debate is over.” “No need for debate.”
“The science is settled.”
“The consensus.”
Obscuring the definitions (bait and switch). “Global Warming” becomes “Climate Change”.
Observations concerning changes in the weather become proof of the entire theory of CAGW and are considered “observations”.
Observation that fit within “Seed after its Kind” become proof of the “Molecules to Man” aspect of the theory that says at some time, for example, something that was not a feline had a kitten. Something that was not a canine had a puppy. And they managed to reproduce with …..?”. A bone that resembles another bone becomes an “observation” that such happened.
Ignoring the scientific method.

The PR end of it?
People like to be “settled in”. Convince them that their “settled-inness” will change unless ….”

Felix
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 26, 2018 7:45 pm

You clearly don’t understand evolution, and apparently have never even tried to do so.

What do you imagine a “kind” to be?

Cats evolved from members of the Order Carnivora which had already split off from the dog, bear, weasel, seal side of the order.

An African ape mother in the Pliocene had one child ancestral to chimps and another ancestral to humans, but the differences between her kids was slight. Over millions of years, the differences added up.

A single gross chromosomal mutation is largely responsible for our upright posture. An even simpler mutation allowed our bigger brains.

Reply to  Felix
June 27, 2018 1:52 pm

Felix, you’re making assumptions about me and my past based solely on the fact that I don’t agree with you about the “Molecules to Man” version of evolution.
Frankly, you sound a bit like those who dismiss what one says because they are not a “climate scientist” or not Peer reviewed.

If you want to call changes within a “kind” “evolution”, no problem.
Yes, I know Man and not nature is primarily responsible for the different breeds of dogs but they are all still “dogs”, the same “kind”.
Man has observed these changes.
Man has never observed a canine giving birth to something other than another canine.
The same goes for all the rest of the “-ines”.

No one has ever observed any the things you mention.
They are just theories supported by other theories supported by….at best, an observation that spawned a theory.

Felix
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 27, 2018 2:03 pm

It’s not an assumption that only creationists talk about the undefined concept, if I may dignify the conjecture with that term, of “kinds”.

As I said, you totally, completely and utterly don’t understand evolution, because you’ve been lied to.

For millions of years, canines have only given birth to canines. But there was a time when a carnivore gave birth to young like it in every way but one small way, probably indistinguishable from its litter mates. Then descendants of that carnivore gave birth to another with such a tiny difference. Before too long the dog-bear-weasel-seal line of carnivores diverged noticeably from the feline line.

Now, please do as I asked and define “kind”. If by “canine” you mean a member of the dog family, then your concept of “kind” must be close to the Linnaean category “family”. Too bad that that level of relatedness is clearly not what the Bible has in mind. Nor would it solve the problem of too many millions of “kinds” on the Ark.

As I keep pointing out, evolution of new species and genera have been repeatedly observed in the wild and created in the lab. Evolution is a scientific fact, ie an observation repeatedly observed.

There is no magic barrier in genomes that keep them from changing enough for accumulated shared, derived traits to add up to new species, genera, families, orders, classes, phyla, kingdoms and domains.

For example, the lobe-dinned lungfish relative which gave rise to us tetrapods was practically identical to its kin, except that its fin rods were a little more calcified, hence a little less cartilaginous. That’s a fact confirmed by paleontology, genetics, embryology and comparative anatomy, etc.

Felix
Reply to  Felix
June 27, 2018 2:23 pm

For readers who might know about the preposterous pseudo-science (if that), based upon imaginary biblical “kinds”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Created_kind#Baraminology

Felix
Reply to  Felix
June 27, 2018 3:18 pm

Cladogram of Order Carnivora, time-calibrated at family level:

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Cat-side in blue; dog-side in red.

Reply to  Felix
June 27, 2018 7:52 pm

Nice “model”.
Who made the actual observations way back then?
It’s a theory based upon theories … etc.

And what about “The Scientific Method”?

The steps of the scientific method go something like this:

Make an observation or observations.
Ask questions about the observations and gather information.
Form a hypothesis — a tentative description of what’s been observed, and make predictions based on that hypothesis.
Test the hypothesis and predictions in an experiment that can be reproduced.
Analyze the data and draw conclusions; accept or reject the hypothesis or modify the hypothesis if necessary.
Reproduce the experiment until there are no discrepancies between observations and theory. “Replication of methods and results is my favorite step in the scientific method,” Moshe Pritsker, a former post-doctoral researcher at Harvard Medical School and CEO of JoVE, told Live Science. “The reproducibility of published experiments is the foundation of science. No reproducibility – no science.”
Some key underpinnings to the scientific method:

The hypothesis must be testable and falsifiable, according to North Carolina State University. Falsifiable means that there must be a possible negative answer to the hypothesis.
Research must involve deductive reasoning and inductive reasoning. Deductive reasoning is the process of using true premises to reach a logical true conclusion while inductive reasoning takes the opposite approach.
An experiment should include a dependent variable (which does not change) and an independent variable (which does change).
An experiment should include an experimental group and a control group. The control group is what the experimental group is compared against.

Felix
Reply to  Gunda Din
June 27, 2018 8:24 pm

The observations are made today. That makes them no less valid.

Accident and crime scene investigators reconstruct what happened from evidence obtained after the event.

Astronomy, physics, chemistry, geology, etc, not just biology, rely on observations of events which occurred in the distant past, to include billions and tens of billions of years.

They are still observations.

The relationships of various carnivore groups isn’t a “model”. It’s an observation, based upon genetics, comparative anatomy, embryology, paleontology and every other relevant discipline. Why is this hard to understand?

Reply to  Gunda Din
June 27, 2018 8:41 pm

To continue my “Reply” which was interrupted by a “hiccup” in the system…
Hmmm…I can’t go back to add in the numbers for the steps in “The Scientific Method” I copied or highlight the steps I wanted to point out.

Form a hypothesis — a tentative description of what’s been observed, and make predictions based on that hypothesis.
Test the hypothesis and predictions in an experiment that can be reproduced.

Can either of us do that?

Reproduce the experiment until there are no discrepancies between observations and theory.

Can either of us do that?

The hypothesis must be testable and falsifiable, according to North Carolina State University. Falsifiable means that there must be a possible negative answer to the hypothesis.

Can either of us do that?

“Replication of methods and results is my favorite step in the scientific method,” Moshe Pritsker, a former post-doctoral researcher at Harvard Medical School and CEO of JoVE, told Live Science. “The reproducibility of published experiments is the foundation of science. No reproducibility – no science.”

Felix
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 27, 2018 8:44 pm

The fact of evolution has been repeatedly confirmed by the most rigorous application of the scientific method for 160 years.

Reply to  Felix
June 27, 2018 7:58 pm

MODS!
How did this go into moderation before I finished it?
I inserted something into a “blockquote”.
I couldn’t scroll up or down to clean it up.
I hit “Post Comment” so I could use “edit” to do but it went straight to moderation with no option to edit.
What gives?

[nothing gives, its just the way things work. A comment that gets flagged for moderation by software doesn’t get editing privilege. Don’t think that it is directed at you, it isn’t. -mod]

Reply to  Gunda Din
June 27, 2018 8:19 pm

Thanks for the explanation.
(Steam valve released. 8- )

donald penman
June 27, 2018 9:59 am

I am not really that interested in this question of evolution but I think that nature does not care about individuals. Darwin was a liberal who believed in the power of the individual to shape the future and that is where the idea of natural selection came from and why it is so popular to many. Nature just uses percentages if 110000 individuals fail to survive to reproduce then at least 111000 individuals must be born or the species dies out but with the ideology most have here we only here about the individual surviving and changing future evolution. The evidence is in the rocks limestone and chalk deposits were laid down under water because it is the fossilised remains of sea creatures which have accumulated over millions of years and we see evidence of creatures evolving , they tend not to remain the same they can get larger or smaller for example. I am worried by the fundamental religious beliefs that tell us things never evolved and that the Earth is flat.

Felix
Reply to  donald penman
June 27, 2018 11:58 am

Darwin’s (and Wallace’s later) discovery of natural selection came from observing that many are born, hatched, split off, by whatever means of reproduction, but relatively few survive to reproduce. Among humans in his day, this was visible all around him. The population of Britain was rapidly growing, yet infant mortality was high, and many who did survive didn’t have families. The effect was even more stark in non-human nature.

The discovery of change in nature has been a profound contribution of science to thought in general. The biblical world was static, as was that of ancient scientists. Creation was perfect, and any falling away from it was thus bad, and not allowed by God.

Since Copernicus and Vesalius first challenged both the Bible and the authority of the Church and the ancients (Aristotle and Ptolemy for C; Galen for V) in 1543, science has increasingly discovered that the universe, our galaxy, the solar system, Earth and life upon it constantly change.

It has proven hardest, apparently, to convince people that life changes naturally. Opposition to the fact of evolution has persisted longer than did opposition to heliocentrism. Although it took the Church a very long time formally to admit that, contrary to the Bible, Earth moves, that it does was generally accepted much sooner.

Belief in supernatural or fact-free, made-up explanations for evolution has lasted much longer than did supernatural explanations for the movements of planets or the spread of disease. People readily accepted the concept of gravity, instead of angels or God moving the spheres which carried planets and the fixed stars. Same with germs as opposed to evil spirits, sin or bad airs or out of whack humors causing infectious disease. This despite the fact that we are threatened by the evolution of ever newer, more deadly bacteria resistant to all existing antibiotics.

Steve O
June 28, 2018 9:30 am

“I agree with Nick that climate change might be a better labelling than global warming.”

— Two can play that game. Let’s use the term “Climate Cycle.”

Allenmck
July 5, 2018 8:02 am

I’m a climate skeptic. I have no agenda. I stopped counting the many, many flagrant errors of science, logic and rhetoric in this essay.

There are hundreds of intelligent, clear and scientifically valid books out there that answer every single mistake and misunderstanding that Ball exhibits in this piece. Either he is ignorant of their direct disproval of his unoriginal ideas, or he is purposefully being deceptive for reasons unknown. Either way, he seems unlikely to become objective about evolutionary biology.

But I would count it as time well spent if anything I wrote contributed even a little bit to convincing the proprietor of this website that the anti-evolution pieces Tim Ball puts out do incredible damage to the credibility of this website. If you can’t be convinced by the (much more intelligent and eloquent than I) hordes of scientists who have exhaustively answered every single mistake Ball makes, I want to think it’s possible WUWT could be persuaded to just eliminate it as a topic.

Evolution and climate change aren’t comparable. They don’t inform each other. Nothing and no one is served by discussing evolutionary biology on this site.

It is only negative. It only does damage. At some point or other, you will look back with regret at how throughly you shot yourself in both feet.

———

Also, it bugs the bejeezus out of me that I can’t say to alarmist friends: “Go check out WUWT. There are hundreds of scientific essays that refute CAGW.” Because those friends unfairly (but very understandably) exit as soon as they come across the specter of living, modern, supposedly educated adults who still reject evolution, and who refuse to accept facts that they (wrongly) assume run contrary to their cherished beliefs.

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