I lose sleep over climate change almost every single night. I can’t remember how long this has been happening, but it’s been quite a while, and it’s only getting worse. I confess: I need help.
A few years ago, I shared my climate change depression on Twitter, and the response was overwhelming. One of my tweets rose up the alt-truth ranks all the way to Fox News, where one host called me a “kook” for publicly expressing my feelings about the environment. Other responses were more empathic. Hundreds of people wrote to me admitting their own personal struggles under the weight of an unraveling world. This was a consolation of sorts. I realized that I am not alone in experiencing a kind of environmental dread.
Like many people who care about the fate of the planet, I’ve spent most of the past year alternating between soul-crushing despair and headstrong hope. My personal situation, however, is a bit unusual in that I get paid to be a climate-science communicator.
I’m a meteorologist by training and a journalist by profession. For the past 12 years, I’ve focused every working day on understanding, explaining, and trying to alleviate the effects of climate change. Yet global carbon emissions are more than 20 percent higher now than when I started work as a climate journalist. It’s difficult not to internalize some of this as a personal failure. “I should be telling that story better,” I’ll tell myself, as the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere continues to climb. The regret is catching up to me.
For now at least, the good days are enough to keep me going. But there are also days when I’m paralyzed. Case in point: This very essay. It sat open in a window on my computer for nearly 11 months, begging to be completed. Yet I resisted. Confronting the existential dread that climate change infuses into nearly every aspect of my life just isn’t something I want to spend my time doing.
About a year ago, I went to see a counselor for anxiety. He seemed unprepared for my emotional crisis. His simple advice was, “Do what you can.” Easier said than done, of course, but the advice helped me to realize something important: We are all in this together.
But for some reason, I still have a hard time talking about these emotional challenges in person. Climate change and mental health are still fairly taboo subjects in polite company (even if these aren’t days in which being polite gets one very far). Over the past several months, I’ve stopped talking about climate change with my parents, my wife, and my sister in order to avoid heated dialogue about what I think is the most important issue in the world. Instead, I’ve privately sought out personal advice from other scientists and journalists, and often commiserated with strangers. My support network has become those who are going through the same emotional crisis.
I know that cutting out my family is a defensive strategy. I know it can’t last forever. In ordinary times, I would welcome any chance to include my loved ones in my life’s work. But right now, I feel like I have to restrain myself from opening up about how I really feel to protect whatever seeds of hope I have left. I don’t know if it’s the right decision, but I know that I need to preserve my own well-being to continue to fight for the planet.
This article appeared in the March/April 2018 edition with the headline “Climate Change Blues.”
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Yup. He sure does.
Someone near to me has struggled with PTSD. It sounds as if Holthaus has something in common with that condition, ie. unwanted thoughts.
There’s no magic bullet treatment. Everyone responds differently. In the case of my friend, a decade of martial arts training and meditation did the trick (or maybe it was just time).
Klonopin. Just sayin’.
Post Traumatic Stress Denial?
I think Mr. Holthaus has Pretraumatic stress disorder.
Perhaps … Preconceived Traumatic Stress Dysfunction.
Though I do feel for you Eric, self induced pressure can be a real bugger.
Ask yourself a some important questions.
Has anything you’ve done had any effect on cooling the climate?
Is there anything you can do (short of eliminating 90% of the populace) that will have an affect?
Are you doing all you personally believe you need to?
Other than take the energy production share of solar\wind from 1.5% to around 3% over the last couple of years, has the multiple $Trillions spent on subsidizing that industry achieved any reduction in CO2?
Since human life emerged some +/- 250,000 years ago, has the varied climate ever been warmer than now? Colder than now? Did humans survive it?
Which temperature direction is more conducive to human mortality (occasional heatwave, increased growing seasons, slowly rising oceans, cold snaps destroying crops, decreased growing seasons, slowly receding oceans, needing to cut down forests to heat and cook, ice sheets forming in population zones?
Can you do anything about that?
Has the climate ever been Stable? (Within 2C, 3C, 4C, 6C, 10C, 12C, 15C)
Will, by necessity, fossil fuels eventually be replaced by other energy sources due to cost/availability alone?
Does CO2 enrichment increase plant productivity?
Is CO2 necessary for ALL Carbon based life (all life on earth)?
Would decreasing atmospheric concentration of CO2 be detrimental or beneficial to all life?
Despite what the MSM says, has storm frequency and intensity truly increased?
Was it increased storm intensity that caused Harvey to flood Huston in 2017 or a storm stalling on the coast for several days?
Which is costlier…Mitigation or Adaptation?
Breath easy Eric not only do plants adore you for the 40,000 ppm CO2 you produce with every exhalation but the entire biosphere thanks you. We evolved to produce CO2 the the biosphere has evolved to make use of it and return the O2 the human animals need to survive.
I think this fellow has Pre-Traumatic Stress Syndrome.
Post Trump Stress Disorder.
It is affecting lots of liberals.
Such a shame.
“It sounds as if Holthaus has something in common with …… ”
Yup, something in common with ……. whatever it takes to preserve one’s money source.
Quoting Eric Holthaus
Well … ta de dah, ….. a free-lance journalist whose income is dependent upon “readership approval” of his published commentary.
I’m sure that 80%-90% of subscribers to the Sierra Club Magazine will voice 100% approval of Holthaus’s public testifying of his debilitating “mindset”.
Kinda like the 100% approval a wayward “sinner” receives after “testifying” at a church sponsored “Prayer Meeting”.
The guy was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. There’s no telling what kind of meds he’s on. That stuff will eff up a person’s mind.
Pretraumatic stress disorder.
+1.
Suggestive hypnosis is the condition brought on by indoctrination in this case by a creative centralized government and given official status by government funded bureaucrats and subsequently administered through group hypnosis by the propaganda ministry for the intention of manipulating the masses. Overly suggestible citizens are prone to nightmares. These overly suggestible have come to be know as snowflakes for their low tolerance for stress brought on by the things people say. They believe, not only sticks and stone but words can also break their bones.
Well, let us see now…….?. Could there be a clue as to the kind of -itisitis that may be afflicting Mr. Holthaus in this sentence? This article appeared in the MARCH/APRIL 2018 edition with the headline “Climate Change Blues.”
Could it be that Mr. Holthaus is being afflicted by an un-reasoning fear of the imagined potential negative consequences of April Fool’s day?
I think that if Mr. Holthaus could Anglify his name to Hothouse, he would be more at peace with the climate.
climate-phobia : an illogical fear of a changing climate.
This little recognised condition needs to be faced head on. It seems to affect a large number of people.
The first step to treatment is recognising that you are member of a cult.
http://www.decision-making-confidence.com/am-i-in-a-cult.html
Certainly seems to fit some of the description of his symptoms.
Sadly it seems Eric Hothaus [sic] managed to find a “therapist” who was also a cult member. Hardly likely to identify the problem and suggest deprogramming therapy.
Surrounding himself with equally psychotic sufferers is not going to help him find a therapeutic solution.
Where’s the button to vote “kook” ?
There are meds available for free floating anxiety… get some.
Not conflating the climate fraud with “environment” could possibly help. I won’t charge you for that advice.
(Given that I know you won’t take it)
That’s a cool idea. A button for +1 and a button for kook. I like it. A couple show up here from time to time.
is there anyone that didn’t see this one coming………
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/05/12/12-may-18-world-view-climate-change-conference-collapses-as-china-backs-down-from-emission-commitments/
Oh that’s Trump’s fault. He should have doubled down Obama’s talks and promised to double American efforts before 2022 (or somewhere in future where he ain’t a president). The left wing would have hailed him. And not HH’d as now.
He could also have said the ocean levels are now about to heal, though of course, the irony would be lost at the left.
Someone needs to start a 12-step program to help those addicted to obsessing about something over which they have no control – the inexorable rise of CO2.
Has Eric taken the first step in at least feeling his powerlessness to do anything about it?
12 step program be damned, how about giving them a real education in the philosophy of science, chemistry, physics and biology instead.
What are his qualifications anyway? I mean what did he study that left him so ignorant and yet so outspoken?
I looked up one Eric Holthaus and came up with this bio – is this him?
Correct me if I’m wrong (please!) but I heard one can qualify in a subject as a major at US universities through a multidisciplinary study pathway, If I understand this system correctly I can see how it could lead to big problems with gaps in learning. – in Australian universities to study sciences you study in first year say physics, chemistry, maths and botany. Second year you may decide in a direction of say chemistry so you’d do physics, chemistry and maths. Third year would be chemistry and physics and there’s your basic degree – a major or double major in physics.
You can’t flit from subject to subject across 3 years, you have to do 3 full years in a subject to major in it. It’s a continuation and refinement across 3 years with no shortcuts. There’s too much to learn to jump from medicine to geography to maths across 3 years..
Note that I’m not saying Oz education is great, I’ve been on both ends of it across the years and I’ve seen abysmal failures creeping into the curricula. Some from laziness, some from the less-adept who would fail in the real world who remained within the system going from student to teacher.. and then there’s those with agendas – empire building at any cost.
Touchy-feely warmists are snowflakes. When confronted with rational facts, formulas, and data that contradict what they believe, they run to safe places (both mentally & physically) to escape any damascene experience.
That would be excellent advice for all alarmists.
He just needs to accept that he is a fallen creature. May be get together with other like minded zealots and chant:
“I confess to almighty Government, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned through my own fault, in my thoughts and in my words, in what I have done, and in what I have failed to do; and I ask blessed Gaia, ever virgin, all the journalists and Climate Scientists, and you, my brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord, our Government”
Fishing. I would prescribe the patient take an extensive and exhaustive foray into the piscatorial pursuits. This has been known to clear the mind and rejuvenate the soul.
“I looked up one Eric Holthaus and came up with this bio – is this him?”
No, it is he.
Holthaus says: “No one really has wrong ideas about sustainability because it’s so new, there’s so much to learn and do.”
Consider for a few seconds that statement. Basically he says (or is quoted as saying) sustainabiliy thoughts must all be true because they’re so new. Did 2009 see the birth of a new logical fallacy, argumentum ad novitas?
If Holthaus wants to sleep at night, he must spend a day with a true skeptic scientist.
I think Eric could be cured by reading the USAF doc “OWNING THE WEATHER IN 2025” and reading the Mann vs Ball lawsuit where climate warming died due to lack of evidence. Mann would appear to be short for ConMann. Global warming has turned out to be in fact, a global IDIOT competition.
He sure does – need to stop blaming the enemy within on imaginary external justifications.
That would be the first step to recovery.
First he needs to take responsibility for his own mental disarray.
Meditation retreats can help in this regard, inasmuch as he would get to see that the intruding thought patterns and associated discomfort are running a program that is independent of external cause.
I read a book when I was younger which described a couple who were always worrying.
It then explained that when there was nothing to worry about – then they worried about having nothing to worry about.
Eric has latched onto the planet and climate, as a form of escapism and projection.
Until he realizes this, then he’s going to delay his own recovery, through imagining that it is the responsibility of others.
Which is sad for him, but of no consequence for any of us, or for the planet.
The planet is doing fine.
Operative phrase: “I get paid to be a climate-science communicator.” Yup!
The anxiety accompanying guilt trip is part of the employee benefit package. Travel expenses are paid with correct documentation and receipts. How expensive is the monthly premium for the medical insurance policy coverage provided by his employer? Does it cover self inflicted injury and conscience stricken flagellation?
Is the penny dropping at last?
It’s really just another case of the Trump Derangement Syndrome.
NASA Data Proves Trump Right to Exit Paris Climate Accord
https://www.prisonplanet.com/nasa-data-proves-trump-right-to-exit-paris-climate-accord.html
100% Of US ‘Warming’ Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/no_author/100-us-global-warming/
Reactions to Trump Victory, hilarious !!
Eric you need to get a grip, you’ve clearly allowed your beliefs to trump reality.
exactly….. a meteorologist…you would think after all this time he would have noticed that absolutely nothing has changed
Excellent
the only cure is to suck start a glock.
Gnomish, another truly evil sh!t.
Oh mod please, that’s too bad.
posts like that give skeptics a bad reputation. leave the death wishing to the alarmists and their video wet dreams of blowing up non-believers.
His mental problem is he knowingly painted himself into a corner, he saw that he was doing it, doubled down and kept doing it, refused to listen to sense, so now wonders why things not look so good. He had such high hopes for being a meta-hero of the calamity, but now he just shovels snow and wonders how it got this way.
I pity his family, but they are his only hope to get to a better mental state and put the torch of global CO2 warrior aside.
Good luck Eric, we all screw up, but stupid gets punished, and so it should be, don’t screw up your kids with your own miserable mental situation, you have a greater responsibility there, you just totally forgot it. The CO2 BS us stealing your life way, get over it and focus on what actually matters to a real man.
Australia has the most climate scare psychologists per capita. I suggest clinical help down under. They can rub it in even deeper.
I can fully understand it. I mean, c’mon, if gravity ever stopped our friends from down under would fall right off the planet. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be scared about that?!
Let me get this straight – you’re saying in Australia, they rub it in deeper down under?
well, the East coast was a convict settlement.. who knows what they get up to on that side of the country
(West Oz was settled by ‘The Capitalists’ as our families were known in the day)
I’ve no idea how old Holthaus is, but if he is 50 plus, how did he survive the potential horrors of the cold War?
37
Five years to wait then before he gets the answer to everything.
No wonder … he’s one of the ‘captured’ generation. Really incapable of opening their minds to other opinions and facts that don’t align with the propaganda they’ve grown up with … I use “grown up” loosely.
Oh, he has plenty of time to find his brain. Like a couple of years, at least.
“Just go with the flow.” – Anon
Sounds exactly like a religious person talking about the “end times”.
Hello Mr. Holthaus,
Might I suggest that your subconscious is trying to tell you that you have devoted your working life to an effort to give credence to a lie?
The truth will set you free.
He has an acute case of reality … his cognitive dissonance is rightfully tormenting him for his wasted opportunity in life.
…. and that streetcred is their punishment. Let’s not allow them to forget that. I’m going to bear the grudge for the next 20 years, and make them eat excrement.
Jeff, religious people do not talk about end times like this. Are you just trying to smear alarmists by the comparison to dreaded religious people? One of those religious people was Sir Issac Newton. He wrote about the book of Daniel and end times.
Well, a very large number of comments on many stories on this site compare CAGW to religion. So how is this different? Yes I’ve heard people talk about the end times like this, did they do everything right, are they going to heaven, etc, worrying over nothing.
And Dan, not all religious people view their religion the same way. You should know that. Saying “religious people don’t…” Is implying they all behave the same way. They don’t, not by a long shot.
The problem with savimg people and spotted owls is that they die of old age anyway, and all species go extinct regardless. And if a tiny number of individuals get really lucky, they get compacted in dirt, and turned into a rock, for a few hundred million years, until eroded away, ending up as mud in some estury—oh the humanity!
Life is not save-able, it is fungible, infinitely adapable, like the climate it adjusts and your body itself cares not for your politics, ideals or mental weakness. Your body has its own agenda, and purposes, it just carries you, the ‘mind’ around as ab evolutionary tool, that is occasionally useful to a body’s agenda.
Adapt your mind to the reality—or don’t, whatever, no one will care much. The planet isn’t in danger, nor is life, but people sure are. Accept it, because you can’t do anything about it, except make it worse via trying to stuff, looking for control that is ultimately entirely imaginary.
Funny to watch though.
Depends on the religion/sect I guess. Matt 6:24 – drives door to door religion salesmen nuts.
6:34. typo
Matt 6:24 works too.
Matt 6:34:”Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Patrick, I am not following you, please help.
Dan, this Eric guy, much like the religion salesmen (men per species, not necessarily sex) that ring the doorbell at naptime, they pin the end at a certain time, never considering that they might die in a traffic accident that very day. As such, they tackle uncertain worries years from now while the business of today remains untouched.
Almost, Jeff. This nutter IS a religious person talking about the end times.
There are many people that feel theirs is a religion, all others are cults.
This is doubly true for atheists.
@ur momisugly MarkW
If you equate non-belief to a-theist you’d be misunderstanding the broader situation. A-theism is as pointless as theism, and most people assumed to be a-theists or agjostics actually just don’t give enough of a rats’ kyber pass to be passionate about a religion or a favorite god—pro, or con. They mosty just laugh at theism and tollerate it.
i.e. Secular
“Secular (adjective form secular, from Latin saeculum meaning “worldly”, “of a generation”, “temporal”, or a span of about 100 years)
Secularity is the state of being separate from religion, or of not being exclusively allied with or against any particular religion. Historically, the word “secular” was not related or linked to religion, but was a freestanding term in Latin which would relate to any mundane endeavor. The idea of a dichotomy between religion and the secular originated in the 18th century European Enlightenment. Furthermore, since “religion” and “secular” are both Western concepts that were formed under the influence of Christian theology, other cultures do not necessarily have words or concepts that resemble or are equivalent to them. In many cultures, little conceptual or practical distinction is made between “natural” and “supernatural” phenomena and the very notions of “religious” and “nonreligious” dissolve into unimportance or nonexistence, … ”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularity
Cheap smear of religion, Jeff. There are religions (like Christianity) and then there are cults (like CAGW).
“Cheap smear of religion, Jeff. There are religions (like Christianity) and then there are cults (like CAGW).”
I was making an observation based on my experience. Plain and simple.
The only difference between a “religion” and a “cult” is scale. I’ve encountered many christians who act like they’re in a cult.
“I lose sleep over climate change almost every single night. I can’t remember how long this has been happening, but it’s been quite a while, and it’s only getting worse. I confess: I need help.“
Dignitas?
Be fair. If I had spent my entire career pushing the global warming religion I’d be losing sleep too. Imagine how bad it would be if he had a conscience as well as a sense of looming unemployability.
gnome,
The belief that global warming is mainly-man-made and is likely to cause major problems is a secular belief. It’s not a religion. Marxists had strange beliefs but nobody calls Marxism a religion. Or do they? Over the years there have been many secular beliefs that others find strange but they remain secular. Some strange people think you can decide whether you are male or female. Weird. But it’s not a religion.
One of my concerns for the people in the future is that if a real world crisis did occur few will believe because of the present distortion of science and news media.
They are going exactly that right now…..this loon is losing sleep over something he’s fabricated in his own mind
In the mean time, there are things going on that really will break your heart…
https://khn.org/news/listless-and-lonely-in-puerto-rico-some-older-storm-survivors-consider-suicide/
Whether climate change, Trump, GMOs, assault rifles, or pain of Hillary losing, these idiots need to get a grip. I’ve often said that a genuine invasion of real Martians with real death rays would help these delicate and gullible fools have something really worth worrying about.
A bit OT but the Martian thing reminded me of this.
If a real world crisis occurs we’ll have good evidence for it. Because it will be real, a crisis, and have happened. You know?, as opposed to being something which is fake, a non-event, and not happening.
I lose sleep also….
I like to open the window at the head of my bed a bit and enjoy fresh air while I sleep. In the spring, as the sun rises earlier, happily chirping, really loud little birds show up and get me awake at 5 am!
Because…. climate change!
Seasonal change of the time of sunrise is NOT climate change (But you know that, right?). Climate is defined as weather averaged over 30 years.
?????
Climate defined as weather averaged over 30 years? Less than a half cycle of the PDO! And in 1979, Arctic ice extent was the perfect value, departure from which was an anathema. But if you are from Venus, what do you know of earth?
Mayor, you lost your sarcasm detector in the election.
Mayor, “Climate is defined as weather averaged over 30 years.” Only because the WMO said that was all the good data they had at the time.;)
Agree, Lee.
Given identified multi-decade climatic cycles, 100+ years would seem to be best.
You need some wind turbines installed around your house, that will deal with the birds.
Men are from Mars…
Didn’t think I had to put the /s on that one (12:38)!
Yes, and those little twits are probably an invasive species (because of… Climate Change) that eco-nazis think should be eradicated for having the audacity to move into their neighborhood!
You need a wind turbine.
Climate change makes birds get louder ….. FACT
No need to feel guilty. Do the right research in your own backyard. Find out there is no man mdae global warming.
Be happy. Take your SUV up the hill and take your dogs for a walk.
http://breadonthewater.co.za/2018/05/04/which-way-will-the-wind-be-blowing-genesis-41-vs-27/
OMG Eric, as a fellow meteorologist, get over yourself and wake up to what isn’t happening. Your schooling hasn’t carried you far in life so far. I’ve followed your chain of drivel for years now, via WUWT and others, and it is clearly evident that you have issues that need addressing through a professional physiatrist, not a “counselor” or social media. I loose no sleep at all over your imagined planetary problems as there are none that we can change or control.
He doesn’t need a psychiatrist, he just needs a dose of scientific objectivity.
either a good hard slap upside the head..or a boot in the butt would be my options
self obsessed pathetic snowflake nutter.
theres real crap happening in the world and dipsh*ts like him drivel on about sfa and expect sympathy?
not a scrap from me
I recommend triple strength objectivity 2 times a day and a strong dose of intellectual honesty. Sweet dreams Eric
A very large tumbler of a good single malt every few hours would probably help the most. Actually, with his problems, the cheapest booze would work just as well. He’s simply one of the most pitiful greenies I’ve ever heard of.
‘I lose sleep over climate change’
Recommend a warm glass of milk and a cookie . . . maybe a few beers . . . or couple shots of whisky . . . trip to Bangkok with the climateers? If none of these work take two aspirin and repost.
‘A couple shots of whisky’ No, I would up the dose: A bottle a day every day until the symptoms disappear…
Irish whiskey. It works for me.
Shillelagh would be better.
Soooo, he left his computer running with this essay in an open window for 11 months wasting energy and worsening CO2 emmission / climate change, but didn’t care? That speaks volumes to the false narrative he speaks of and actually giving a crap about it. He needs much more than counseling and the medications he is obviously abusing. Scary stuff!
Does that mean that he has had that window open with that item in the window since last April Fool’s day or just after?
A good soaking with a heavy rain through the open window to short out and destroy his computer would have been the best possible thing that could happen to help solve his serious mental problem.
ossqss
No, he doesn’t care cos’ he’s a middle class, selfish liberal concerned about nothing but himself and his wealth.
Whilst he’s fretting and wringing his hands about what to do, there are people in developing nations dying because of his interference, 200,000,000 predicted by 2050 if we continue on our current path of climate control delusion.
Yes Eric. Two Hundred Million people, dead because of you and your insane cronies!
Try counting them when you try to sleep. I’m sure you’l quickly drift off into a sound slumber, safe in the knowledge that someone else is suffering, just not you.
For too many “greens” two hundred million dead is considered a good start, they’d love for that number to be much higher.
John
They are too stupid/selfish to realise the consequences of their actions.
However, whilst sceptics are struggling to engage with the overwhelming alarmists political and media domination, this is our ‘97%’.
We should be promoting it as our political message to the man in the street. It’s a real and verifiable number because the numbers are there right now.
Millions in the developing world are dying every year from toxic fume inhalation, from burning biomass (wood and animal dung) over open fires, in enclosed spaces, for cooking and heating. Nor is it outlying villages, there are cities reliant on ‘illegal’ loggers to provide timber so these people can live.
The west brands them ‘illegal loggers’ because they earn a living by responding to local demand for firewood, but the West has made it a bureaucratic and PR industry in itself, with the ‘sustainable’ brand stamped on everything wooden so we don’t import illegally felled timber. But these guys don’t have the supply chain nor the wherewithal to do anything but provide timber to locals who burn the damn stuff.
Sorry, off on one mate.
Must be a Mac user. You could never run a windows system that long without a reboot.
certainly not if that windows system was connected to the internet. The auto updates would have forced a reboot long ago.
Dear Eric, consider the possibility that you might be brainwashed. There are millions like you.
And, the lies we are told go much, much deeper than cagw. If you delve deeply enough into them, then you will be at risk of truly going mad. (Insert insane laughter here.)
Just today James Hansen was interviewed on ‘Quirks and Quarks’ on CBC radio. Or perhaps it was a replay. The brainwashing continues in Canada relentlessly.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/may-12-2018-james-hansen-s-i-told-you-so-elephant-earthquakes-and-third-hand-smoke-1.4656916/father-of-global-warming-worries-the-climate-young-people-inherit-will-be-out-of-their-control-1.4656945
The climate is and has always been out of human control.
Here I was hoping he’d actually asked to post an article here…… NAAHHHHHH! He doesn’t have that kind of courage.
‘The revolver is in the library, sir. Next to the bottle of whisky’
‘Thank you, Jeeves. That will be all’
The sickos are coming out of the woodwork. Would you take your own advice, Latimer?
Latimer isn’t the one bleating about his poor life as a middle class liberal whilst 200,000,000 people in the developing world are predicted to die by 2050 thanks to the lack of clean, cheap, fossil fuel derived electricity.
So that makes it OK to suggest he commit suicide, HotScot? Sick shit. I’ve seen violent death, and it benefits nobody.
If i were as mentally disturbed as our climate alarmist chum, I might do so,
But happily I am very well adjusted and can distinguish between minor changes likely to be beneficial overall and the witterings of the Climate Doomsday Cult to which he belongs.
If you were as mentally disturbed, Latimer, would your family appreciate some yahoo suggesting you commit suicide?
Dave Fair
What’s worse, making a comment on a blog, or actually supporting homicide?
I too have seen lots of violent deaths.
Why would anyone give a monkeys about Eric Holthaus’ feelings when he is so self absorbed he can’t see the suffering his actions promote?
It’s his loved ones whose feelings that matter, HotScot. He’d be dead.
That’s like the alarmist refrain “It’s our grandchildrens future”.
“What’s worse, making a comment on a blog, or actually supporting homicide?”
why should it be a race to the bottom? two wrongs don’t make a right.
Lives in Tuscon Arizona.
Bill, maybe he could be cured if he moved to Alaska or Canada. On second thought how about North Korea. He wouldn’t have to worry about the future of mankind, just his own future.
No, no, he needs to move to Colorado, then he can get legally stoned every night. He would find himself to be a much, much happier person.
(I wouldn’t advise this for a person who is actually productive with their life, but he’s an admitted climate scaremongering writer, so the world will actually be better off if he turns on and drops out of the game. He’ll be better off than he is now, too.)
“Tuscon” ??
I visited Tucson once. June. 117°F.
Hottest I’ve ever experienced when not in front of a pizza oven
Isn’t his home in St. Paul, Minnesota?
Climate change is not just the most important thing in his life, it is the only thing.
He won’t have to worry about cutting out his wife permanently.
I can see the divorce on the way.
{Five years from now}
Eric Holthaus: Climate change wrecked my marriage.
Climate change causes divorce rates to rise.
Seems like he is already divorcing: https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/994284717699686400
Though at least he is getting 10 hours sleep, not sure the last time I got that much sleep.
Well, that was fast.
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Eric Holthaus
Verified account @EricHolthaus
May 9
having a day job focused on climate change while going through a divorce is a special kind of grief process””
Stop savaging this man. . .it was the sun . . . the Arizona heat I tell you . . . humor him . . .
Maybe his wife is a skeptic.
He can’t talk about climate change with his wife, sister or parents. Obsessive personality? Ya’ think? He does need professional help. A qualified therapist could take him outside on progressively warmer days until eventually he could go to the water park on a scorching hot day and play with the other meteorologists who don’t seem to think the world is ending.
He is unwell!
Yeah, I thought I’d read that a little while back.
TA
“Maybe his wife is a skeptic.”
My first thought.
Don’t worry; be happy.
Tucson has been hotter and colder in the past. It will be again. Although all that pavement and those air conditioners don’t help.
The most depressing and worrisome part is that his reaction, as a professional “climate communicator” is to stop talking with people who disagree with him.
There are no words.
kb
…and as a Pro “Climate Communicator”, his stated worry is “rising CO2”.
Is he concerned about how much greener the earth is in the last 50 or so years?
He can’t be worried about rising temperatures, or more extreme weather since he is also a meteorologist by training so he should know better, despite MSM claims..
I’ve been taught to think in terms of 1,000 years and more. So I see it as just the Earth warming up back to normal, or just a part of an erratic sine wave.
Or who even might disagree with him, or not agree with him enthusiastically enough.
I’m prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong. I’m taking this bold step because the method has promise. So let’s not pay attention to the little yippers who want to tear it down before they even see the results.
— Watts, who quickly changed his mind when he saw the results
Come on, Watts. Get some help, science or otherwise.
Scotty, Tony just banned you from ‘Real Climate Science’ for this type of trolling. Take a hint! Get a clue! Then get a life!
Your attempts at thread bombing won’t work here.
That is a Watts quote, so glass house and all.
Why would Watts stoop so low as to mock someone with a concern? Seems like a non-science and rude thing to do.
Don’t worry, be happy. The entire edifice of ‘global warming disasters’ relies on the anticipated high feedback factor relating to the water vapour increase that should be driven by a CO2-based temperature rise.
The feedback is in fact very small. There is nothing to worry about. The CO2 used to be much higher than it is now. The temperatures used to be much higher than they are now. In both cases, nothing happened. What we know is that when temperatures are up, and the CO2 is up, everything is better. When temperatures are down, and CO2 is down, everything is worse.
Nothing in your lifetime will change enough to step outside the bounds of recent, recorded history, save in social organization. While there are those who would love you to be distressed, perhaps to the point of giving them money, there is simply no need for it.
Relax. Chill. You are going to be fine, and so will be everyone else. The global population will soon peak. Food production is only a fraction of what it could be. Over the next few centuries we will move a little higher inland, just as we always have. Have a look at the book “Waterworlds”. It is about drowned cities under the oceans, lots of them. It shows that there is nothing unusual about what is happening to our pretty little globe.
We already know how to recycle, how to remediate mines, how to turn garbage into power, products and life-saving chemicals. The missing ingredient at the moment is global, representative, elected management of trans-border affairs. We have patches of coordination like for ships, telephones, and control of substances, but not proper planet-wide justice. As we build a planetary society capable of literally reaching for the stars, we are going to have a lot of fun, dispensing forever with the aches and pains of past behaviours. Rejoice that you live in this day, not rue it as a burden. Future generations will honour in perpetuity those who established justice and fairness for all. Yes, growing up is hard to do. It’s OK. You’ll get through it. So will we all.
Ha-ha-ha. So funny. The Chinese played the West for the brainwashed saps and suckers they are. But as with the trade war, don’t blame the Chinese. They were perfectly transparent about building hundreds of coal plants (while shutting a few cola plants in dense urban areas)… They SAID their emissions would rise until at least 2030. But most of the saps chose to ignore the reality while Xi proclaimed he was a Climate leader simply to encourage the West to euthanize themselves. And they are! (Especially in California).
However it seems the Germans have learned their lesson and and climbing down from the Energiewende fiasco… though they will be really screwed if they continue closing their nuke power plants (We can all have a good laugh when the merde hits the fan and the German Greens and their enablers like Merkel get what’s coming to them)
Behold, the truth!
Unfortunately Mr. Holthaus exhibits symptoms very similar to those who experience Electromagnetic hypersensitivity. He is, shall we say, Climate hypersensitive. These types of individuals respond very well to cognitive behavioral therapy.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity
My heart bleeds for him.🤣