60,000 gallons of Flammable Liquid Removed From Volcano Risk Hawaii Geothermal Plant

By United States Geological Survey [Public domain], <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kilauea_eastern_rift_zone_fissure_eruption_May_2018.jpg">via Wikimedia Commons</a>
Kilauea eastern rift zone fissure eruption May 2018. By United States Geological Survey [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Puna Geothermal Venture has removed 60,000 litres gallons of flammable Pentane from a geothermal plant in the path of the Hawaii volcanic eruption. But concerns remain that if the geothermal wells break, they could flood the neighbourhood with toxic volcanic gasses.

Volcanic activity threatens Hawaii geothermal plant long at center of resident concerns

By Breena Kerr May 12 at 6:32 AM

PAHOA, Hawaii — The dangers of building a home on the skirt of an active volcano have become quite clear in recent days, as residents here have needed to evacuate from neighborhoods around Kilauea to avoid the lava flows and toxic gases that have emerged from numerous fissures.

But the advancing molten rock — and the potential for future eruptions and ejections of boulders — threatens more than the homes. Nearby, nestled between two neighborhoods, is a geothermal plant that is home to thousands of gallons of flammable chemicals and deep wells that pose serious risks if they overheat or are breached.

Long a concern for residents and the target of lawsuits challenging its placement on an active volcano, the Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV) is a major safety issue in the wake of the eruptions and earthquakes that have shaken the Big Island for days, government officials say. Authorities worry that the seismic activity could cause gas leaks or explosions at the plant, which is near fissures that have broken the surface. Before dawn Thursday, PGV employees removed a large reserve of pentane — 60,000 gallons of highly flammable solvent used in the powering of wind turbines — because of fears that it could leak and ignite.

Residents and officials remain concerned about potential explosions and toxic gas leaks from the underground wells that provide heat for energy production. If the wells break, they could release dangerous gas — including colorless, flammable and toxic hydrogen sulfide — into the area around Leilani Estates and Lanipuna Gardens, the evacuated neighborhoods that already are choked with volcanic fumes.

“Volcanologists know there is magma under and around the geothermal well fields,” County of Hawaii Council member Jennifer Ruggles, who represents western Puna, said in a statement Thursday night. “The magma is moving and it is unpredictable. There is a real risk that the wells could be damaged.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/volcanic-activity-threatens-hawaii-geothermal-plant-long-at-center-of-resident-concerns/2018/05/11/61c55c0a-5533-11e8-abd8-265bd07a9859_story.html

I’m shocked to learn geothermal plants use Pentane in such quantities. Pentane is a heavier than air unbreathable hydrocarbon gas low boiling point liquid, very similar to though slightly heavier than butane and propane. A potential suffocation risk if released in large quantities, in addition to the risk of explosion. Hydrogen sulfide is also very nasty, even small concentrations can incapacitate and kill in minutes.

Correction (EW): 1. The quantity was in gallons, not litres (h/t R. Shearer).

2. Pentane is a low boiling point liquid, whose boiling point ranges from 9C (48F) to 36C (97F) depending on isomer (h/t Phil), so less of a suffocation risk than I thought, unless heated above room temperature…

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Jacob Frank
May 12, 2018 7:03 am

I wonder what wind turbines need that for

Edwin Jackson
Reply to  Jacob Frank
May 12, 2018 7:15 am

My guess is that this is a binary cycle geothermal plant that uses pentane as the low boiling point fluid in running the turbines. If that is the case removing the pentane means there will be no more geothermal energy production from this plant

arthur4563
Reply to  Edwin Jackson
May 12, 2018 7:31 am

Hey, we’re talking a Washington Post here, king of the world of technological ignorance.
Even their editors are ignorant.

R. Shearer
Reply to  Edwin Jackson
May 12, 2018 9:43 am

And 60,000 gallons is 3.7 times 60,000 liters.

Richard of NZ
Reply to  Edwin Jackson
May 12, 2018 12:43 pm

Mr Shearer,
60,000 gallons can also be 4.55 times 60,000 litres. The use of an international standard would eliminate the chance of misinterpretation.

oeman50
Reply to  Edwin Jackson
May 13, 2018 8:20 am

Edwin, you are correct. The organic Rankine cycle (ORC) produced by ORMAT uses n-pentane as its working fluid to extract heat and run turbines.

barryjo
Reply to  Jacob Frank
May 12, 2018 11:03 am

Access a description of a Rankine Cycle system on Wikipedia.

Reply to  Jacob Frank
May 12, 2018 3:50 pm

I note that the article has now been edited to remove the word “wind”, but there is no notice saying that there has been a change

John Pickens
May 12, 2018 7:17 am

The pentane is probably used as the heat transfer “fluid” to power the geothermal plant’s turbines, not wind turbines.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  John Pickens
May 12, 2018 7:48 am

I was wondering that myself, if wind doesn’t power wind turbines why would they call it such?

aleks
Reply to  Tom in Florida
May 12, 2018 1:43 pm

It’s a mistake by the the author of the article in Washington Post. This journalist does not know the difference between geothermal and wind power plant.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
May 13, 2018 11:34 am

The writer probably thought “turbine” is always preceded by “wind”.

Sceptical Sam
Reply to  Tom in Florida
May 14, 2018 5:41 am

In other words: he’s talking through his turban.
That’s no more than you’d expect from the MSM.

NW sage
Reply to  Tom in Florida
May 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Actually, any responsible reporter would simply pick up the phone and ASK! Probably too much to ask for.

john
Reply to  John Pickens
May 12, 2018 7:49 am

Wind turbines need outside electricity to operate.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  john
May 12, 2018 6:44 pm

Like every large turbine-generator set, wind turbines must be put on turning gear when not at operational speeds to prevent gravitational shaft distortion. A fact of power generation. The pity is that the units are on turning gear way too much for the pittance of power they produce on-line. When I worked in the power industry, units on turning gear were turning negative profit.

arthur4563
May 12, 2018 7:32 am

How long before global warming gets blamed for the erruption?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  arthur4563
May 12, 2018 7:46 am

Or low solar activity.

Stosh
Reply to  arthur4563
May 12, 2018 10:29 am

Of course global warming isn’t the cause. Think liberal science….it was the geothermal plant that was seen as an insult to the volcano goddess and she is venting her wrath.
Makes as much sense as any global warming theory…

dmacleo
Reply to  Stosh
May 12, 2018 4:40 pm

the earth mother farted…

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Stosh
May 12, 2018 6:55 pm

I feel so sorry for Gaia, I’ve had gas that was “hot and wet feeling” before. I hope it doesn’t embarrass her in her close pass to big handsome and colorful Jupiter. Maybe it will be a turn-on, who knows?

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Stosh
May 12, 2018 7:19 pm

Really though, it seems mother Gaia has been lady enough to release most of her flatulence below sea level. Farting in the water is less detectable. How great a gal she is!

GregK
Reply to  Stosh
May 13, 2018 1:56 am

Gaia doesn’t get a look in here.
This is strictly Pele’s patch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele_%28deity%29

Cam
Reply to  arthur4563
May 13, 2018 5:28 am
NW sage
Reply to  arthur4563
May 14, 2018 6:32 pm

Of COURSE global warming is the cause. There is NOTHING more global than hot orange magma from inside the earth! And nothing is more frustrating for an AGW warmist to try to figure out what humans can do to stop a field of magma that is inexorably moving towards his house – while he is standing in front of it!

Photoncounter
May 12, 2018 7:37 am

Pentane is an alkane and commonly used in large scale geothermal plants. There are several in the Reno, NV area using the same refrigerant.
Domestic geothermal systems, such as mine, use Freon or similar CFC’s or HCFC’s. Pretty much the standard refrigeration cycle – just using a low boiling point fluid for heat transport efficiency.

Paul Johnson
May 12, 2018 7:47 am

The Breena Kerr article overstates the risks. The pentane is used as the working fluid for a secondary waste heat recovery system. The wells produce geothermal steam that drives a primary turbine and the pentane is vaporized by that hot exhaust to capture additional energy. It’s not used as a solvent; it’s a sealed system like the freon in an air conditioner but working in reverse. The idea that the geothermal wells could “break” is farfetched. Further, any hot hydrogen sulfide released would instantly ignite when contacted with oxygen to yield sulfur dioxide.

rbabcock
Reply to  Paul Johnson
May 12, 2018 7:55 am

it’s a sealed system

I doubt if the pipes come in contact with 2000F lava it stays sealed for very long. Just a thought.

Paul Johnson
Reply to  rbabcock
May 12, 2018 5:13 pm

That’s true. If you think about it, they probably had an emergency volcano response plan to evacuate the pentane.

Reply to  rbabcock
May 13, 2018 11:40 am

I’m not sure about the well diagrams, but I suspect the casing would collapse and buckle as the lava gets close. The rock expands when heated, the cement outside the casing, and the casing will reach 1500 degrees F and that should buckle and collapse it.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Paul Johnson
May 12, 2018 8:12 am

You apparently know more about the design of the geothermal plant than the WaPo writer. “Wind” turbine? At a geothermal plant? Using pentane? It just didn’t make any sense.

barryjo
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 12, 2018 11:04 am

Rankine Cycle system.

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 12, 2018 5:19 pm

Apparently it often doesn’t take much to know more about a technical issue than a WaPo writer. In this case, just an RPI education and a good search engine (Microsoft Edge/Puna Geothermal).

aleks
Reply to  Paul Johnson
May 12, 2018 1:59 pm

In this case, the danger is not the leakage of pentane, but the possibility of explosion of pentane containers (60000 gallons) upon contact with hot lava.

Reply to  aleks
May 13, 2018 5:32 am

Or leakage and then ignition. Can you say “Mother Of All Bombs”?
(Yes, it would be a rather low probability – but… Murphy was an optimist.)

old white guy
Reply to  aleks
May 13, 2018 6:11 am

Does it matter what the heck you have in your backyard when you live on top of a volcano?

Latitude
May 12, 2018 7:48 am

pentane — 60,000 gallons of highly flammable solvent used in the powering of wind turbines —
I suppose it’s better than running diesel generators to power lights for 24 hour solar

A C Osborn
May 12, 2018 7:48 am

They do not seem to be trying any construction work to try and divert any of of the magma.
Would it work?

Alan Robertson
Reply to  A C Osborn
May 12, 2018 8:57 am

Diversions might have some effect, if the berms/canals were big enough and properly situated.
The problem then becomes, which property is saved and which then gets buried by the diversion?
People ask: Can’t water be sprayed on the advancing lava to cool it?
The islands themselves formed as magma reached upwards from beneath the sea floor.
That’s a lot of cooling water that didn’t stop the inevitable. Fire hoses seem insignificant.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 10:01 am

The Icelanders froze a wall of lava from the volcano Eldfell on the island of Heimaey to save a town and its harbor. They started with fire hoses, then ship borne watercannon and finally a huge network of pipes and dozens of pumps were used.

Ed Bo
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 10:40 am

John McPhee’s book The Control of Nature has a great description of that effort in Iceland for anyone interested.

Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 2:01 pm

You build an up hill dike, the lava coming down already destroyed that property. As for the wells, slop dirt on the well heads.

J Hope
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 13, 2018 4:49 am

Great place for us to live. Just shows the stupidity of humans, and just wait until an earthquake occurs. Duh!

Reply to  A C Osborn
May 12, 2018 9:45 am

The lava fissures run up to several dozen meters below the surface from the higher elevations, then parts of this “river” of lava break the surface with some running on top and then spreading out.
Trying to berm it would simply stop the surface. One thing you also don’t want is lava lake where if the berm is breached, then you have a really serious problem of a lot of lava all at once instead of a slow steady march down slope.

rbabcock
May 12, 2018 7:51 am

The placement of the plant is a head scratcher. Agreed the magma underneath is melted rock and one of the best sources of reliable heat in the world, but I can’t help but believe the risk of an eruption was higher than normally would be acceptable. The volcano has been active for decades.
But then some scientist probably got a grant and published a paper with erroneous assumption and/or bad math saying it was acceptable and when the general public wanted to see the data and methods to verify the conclusions, the person refused saying it was “my work” and the public didn’t have a right to see it.

barryjo
Reply to  rbabcock
May 12, 2018 11:07 am

They site nuclear power plants over known fault lines, don’t they???/

MarkW
Reply to  barryjo
May 12, 2018 12:01 pm

Nuclear plants can be designed to handle an earthquake. Whether or not it is possible to design to handle magma, it doesn’t appear that these engineers tried.

Wrusssr
Reply to  rbabcock
May 12, 2018 1:25 pm

‘ . . . placement of the plant is a head scratcher’
Yeah. What’s one more explosion at this point? Would it have burned down something the volcano missed? Couldn’t they just dial 1-800-insuance? No on the spot adjusters to worry about . . . maybe their application . . . what’s 60,000 gallons of pentane worth?

Reply to  rbabcock
May 12, 2018 2:02 pm

Because they are not under the two vents and the fissure system is geologically minor.

Robert W Turner
May 12, 2018 7:51 am

It looks like the earthquake swarms are moving northeast underneath more populated areas, no bueno.
I think we could be witnessing a shift in the volcanic necks that feeds Mauna Loa since the magma chamber underneath the primary Hawaiian volcano has been emptying quickly since Kilauea has began erupting.

wws
Reply to  Robert W Turner
May 12, 2018 9:36 am

Who could ever have predicted that there could ever have been any risk involved in building cities and complicated industrial plants on top of an active volcano???

Joe Wagner
Reply to  wws
May 12, 2018 10:47 am

No more risk than building large cities in an active hurricane zone. Of course, thats still a lot of risk.

Reply to  wws
May 12, 2018 2:03 pm

There is no such thing as earth without faults. The rating is that they cannot have moved in a half million years.

GregK
Reply to  wws
May 13, 2018 2:00 am

Or on top of one of the planet’s major faults…
https://www.thoughtco.com/all-about-the-san-andreas-fault-1440648

J Hope
Reply to  wws
May 13, 2018 7:49 am

Yes, WWS, who would have thought of it in our highly sophisticated modern world where we know the answer to everything. Since there’s so much space on our planet for billions of humans, I think we ought to be building apartments near the top of Mt St Helens, and other volcanoes. Lovely views, and room for all of us. Baby creches provided for free. 🙂

Reply to  Robert W Turner
May 12, 2018 3:39 pm

The next hotspot in the hawaiian island chain is already offshore of the Big island, might break the surface in 10,000 yrs. Analysis of the magma shows it has separate magma chmaber to Mauna Loa.
Another problem is the potential breaking off off a large coastal piece near Kilauea. It has moved a smallish distance in one go ( 25ft) in recent times but normally its 10cm per year Earthquakes could make it all slip into ocean in one go
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilina_Slump

May 12, 2018 7:53 am

What is the worst possible thing that could happen? You say a 1 in 2.13e999 chance of this happening? Ok, lets go with that as the story!

GregK
Reply to  astonerii
May 13, 2018 2:28 am

A phreatomagmatic eruption when magma comes in contact with ground water [or sea water] could be very untidy. They have occurred at Kilauea.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/kilauea-volcano-explosion-1.4656815
A recent example of a phreatomagmatic eruption is Krakatoa

Keen Observer
May 12, 2018 7:58 am

If I read it correctly, the H2S is from the volcanism itself, but the tap wells provide an easy pathway to surface. You would think that would be part of their risk assessment during project development.

steven F
Reply to  Keen Observer
May 12, 2018 8:56 am

When they were drilling the wells for this geothermal plant one of the wells did hit lava.Nothing dangerous happened. The lava cam in contact with the drilling mud water mix and solidified and plugged the well. The only thing noticed at the surface were obsidian fragments and very hot water.

Reply to  steven F
May 12, 2018 2:04 pm

You want supercritical water for your plant. Very efficient.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Keen Observer
May 12, 2018 9:08 am

You would think that would be part of their risk assessment during project development.

K.O., There was little risk of deadly CO2 escaping through the wells. So what’s the big deal?
Move on now. Nothing to see here. Say, did you hear about the Category 8 storm off the coast of Chile? Worst storm in the past 5,000,000 years. It could end up killing trillions of people. Proof positive that global warming is getting worse!
Phewww is it just me or is it getting hot in here?

Keen Observer
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 12, 2018 11:36 am

Lol.

Sara
May 12, 2018 8:10 am

I’m absolutely gobsmacked by the use of ‘neighborhoods’ in that article. From what I’ve seen in news videos, I don’t think there will be much ‘neighborhood’ to move back to. The lava flow doesn’t look all that deep until it swallows a car, and then you realize that it’s at least six feet deep, maybe seven. It may have slowed a bit, but there’s more to come. Count on it.
This eruption is not going away. The Kilauaea crater has enlarged considerably. I have been unable to understand why on earth anyone would build near an active volcano – and yes, I do know about Pompeii and how close it is to Napoli, and how often the Old Girl burps a smoke ring or two to let people know she’s just napping for now.
I just find it fascinating that anyone can be in that kind of denial, that’s all. And then I read about ‘climate science’ (snorrttt!) and it still doesn’t make any sense.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 9:16 am

Sakurajima, Ioyama and Shinmoedaki in Japan are all erupting. Many other well known volcanoes around the globe are erupting also.
It’s doubtful if this is anything new, on a global or epochal scale.
Doomsayer crazies might get some talking points.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 9:19 am

Should read: Many other well known volcanoes…

wws
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 9:39 am

Johnny Cash on Plate Tectonics:
“I built my house on a Burning Ring of Fire,
They told me it would be fine, but the flames got higher and higher,
and it Burns, Burns, Burns, Burns, that Ring of Fire,
That Ring of Fire.”

Sara
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 11:21 am

I said Pompeii, when I meant VESUVIUS!!!!! Obviously, a caffeine-deficient moment in my life! My bad.

Sara
Reply to  Alan Robertson
May 12, 2018 11:26 am

Sakurajima started erupting right after the 2011 quake. What also happened is that Fuji-san was rattled, good and hard by the same quake. It is only a matter of time between the last eruption and the next one.
But in re: the Doomsayer crazies: they go right along with the SavethePlaneters, CAGWers, warmians, ecohippies, and other people who are positive, beyond a doubt, that The Big End is coming.
Well, they’re right. It is coming – when the Great Rift in East Africa splits apart from the main continent and begins to move away into the Indian Ocean. But is a few years off. It is more likely that the New Madrid rift would rattle and roll and rock the middle of the North American continent in my lifetime.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 9:28 am

“…….The Kilauaea crater has enlarged considerably. I have been unable to understand why on earth anyone would build near an active volcano – ….”.
Comedian George Carlin….lava in your livingroom….

Sara
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
May 12, 2018 11:28 am

I almost have that whole thing memorized.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 11:34 am

They were 40 miles away from the active area. I live, here in Portland Oregon, 40 miles from a recently active volcano (Mt. Hood) and am surrounded by ancient cinder cones. Am I also in a state of denial for living in a city that could find itself in the same situation as Leilani? Those residents actually had a lesser probability of losing their homes from a volcano than residents of Florida losing their homes from a hurricane. Should we also have no sympathy for those who live in Tornado Alley? Before the eruption, they a greater chance of losing their homes to a tornado than the Leilani residents had of losing their homes to an eruption. Have some empathy, stop being so holier-than-thou.

rbabcock
Reply to  Richard Patton
May 12, 2018 12:48 pm

Actually many interviews with the displaced residents show they totally understood what risks there were and pretty stoically have accepted it. It’s really the luck of the draw so to speak. I do feel sorry for these people just like those decimated by tornadoes and earthquakes. It happens.
This disaster happening in slow motion is a positive however. Much better to adjust and get yourself out of harms way. Life goes on and so will they. I would hope FEMA and other organizations help out a lot. I’ve been involved in a lot of natural disasters and always try to donate both time and money to help out those impacted. Others will be doing the same.

Reply to  Richard Patton
May 12, 2018 3:49 pm

Hilo is 40 odd miles away. While Leilani estates is some sort of rural village right on top of the rift zone which lies between the active summit and where the lava in normal times comes to the surface at the edge of the sea.

dmacleo
Reply to  Richard Patton
May 12, 2018 4:45 pm

Am I also in a state of denial for living in a city that could find itself in the same situation as Leilani?
*** yes
Should we also have no sympathy for those who live in Tornado Alley?
*** yes
live in a danger zone accept the danger. but don’t beg for my sympathy, makes you look weak.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Patton
May 12, 2018 7:30 pm

Everybody lives somewhere. Every location has it’s risks.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Richard Patton
May 13, 2018 3:56 am

I live in Waterloo where there is a serious and continuous danger of being subject to politically correct speech laws, a volcano of special and vested interests, and a tsunami of self-righteous whining.
The toxic atmosphere threatens everyone with intellectual suffocation while the burning fires of backbiting and calumny blaze brightly.
Add to that the danger of falling wind turbines and you realize the existential threat to life and limb is as real as the pimples of the faces of the student-led, foreign financed protesters railing against the corporations who finance the economy that makes their lives possible.

Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 2:05 pm

Active volcano vent is 10 miles away.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Donald Kasper
May 12, 2018 6:16 pm

:

Am I also in a state of denial for living in a city that could find itself in the same situation as Leilani?
*** yes
Should we also have no sympathy for those who live in Tornado Alley?
*** yes
live in a danger zone accept the danger. but don’t beg for my sympathy, makes you look weak.

I would much prefer to be thought of as weak than heartless. You appear from your post to be a self-centered heartless jerk. I won’t make that judgment, it is possible you are just having trouble expressing yourself. It is good that self-centered heartless jerks are a minority on this planet, otherwise, we would be truly living in Hell.

steven F
Reply to  Sara
May 13, 2018 12:01 am

The entire island is a volcano. There are two other major volcanos on the island Unlike Kilauea is the most active with almost constant activity. Mauan Loa has erupted about 30 times in the last 200 years. Hualālai appears to have erupted 3 times in the last 1000 years. There is also Mauna Kea, kohala but they appear to be extinct As the earths crust moves away from the hot spot Hualāla will go extinct and then Mauan Loa. i

RAH
May 12, 2018 8:19 am

Anyway one cuts it, it sure looks like those on the big island are in for a rough ride. Just how rough remains to be seen. A massive Kilauea eruption has the potential to cause a lot more than just the SE end of the island to be at significant risk if it turns out the current eruption is just it clearing it’s throat before a main event that is more massive than the authorities are publically predicting. Despite the excellent monitoring of the volcano and great concentration of experts who have been researching this mountain; I wonder if though they are predicting a major eruption, the authorities are downplaying the potential risk as they try to balance the threat assessment against the damage to the tourist industry that the island relies upon to a great extent. If that is the case there is a real potential here for the scenario like that portrayed in the move “Dante’s Inferno” to play out.

steven F
Reply to  RAH
May 13, 2018 12:26 am

An eruption like Pinatubo, Krakatoa, or Mt Saint Helens is not possible. In those volcanos the lava had enough gas in it that it behaves more like explosives. When the volcano’s vent is unplugged millions of tones of rock literally exposes all at once. The lava in hawaii doesn’t have a lot of gas in it so it behave more like a liquid. It cannot explode. However if the lava level drops below the ground water level you get a reaction that is much like dropping sodium into water. t behaves more like a slow burn than an explosive. Since the reaction is slower energy is slowly released instead of all at once. It will still be spectacular but most of the hazard will be concentrated in an area only within a mile or so of the lave. Ash will be shoot about a mile up and then drift away.

May 12, 2018 8:28 am

The worst that can happen is “rift block failure” which could cause a significant landslide and possibly tsunami.
“A number of large coastal fault scarps (palis), some as high as 500 meters, parallel the Puna rift zone and are the tops of an extensive fault zone along which substantial movement has occurred in the past. Large fault blocks are tilted back, by as much as 8 degrees towards the rift zone, indicating a pattern of gradual subsidence. This continuous subsidence has created the feature known as the Hilina Fault System.”
http://www.drgeorgepc.com/VolcanoHawaiiKilaueaInstab.html
https://www.mbari.org/landslides/

Dave in the UP
Reply to  crosspatch
May 12, 2018 8:44 am

Crosspatch, you nailed it. If that rift lets go the whole South Slope of the Big Island could slide into the ocean . That’s several cubic miles of material hitting the water. If that happened all the populated areas in Hawaii would be inundated and the entire Pacific Rim would get really wet.

Reply to  Dave in the UP
May 12, 2018 2:06 pm

Not several cubic miles, several hundred cubic miles.

Reply to  crosspatch
May 12, 2018 8:50 am

Also this reference, see the penultimate paragraph. The worst case scenario would be failure of the Hilina Slump.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031209080659.htm

Paul Blase
Reply to  crosspatch
May 12, 2018 1:18 pm

Didn’t something similar cause the last tsunami off of Japan?

MarkW
Reply to  crosspatch
May 12, 2018 7:32 pm

The last tsunami to hit Japan was caused by an earthquake at the nearby subduction zone.

Sara
Reply to  crosspatch
May 12, 2018 11:31 am

Is that where the Big Crack or Great Crack is located?
How much additional tonnage is Kilauea adding to that? And how much is being eroded from underneath by the magma coming out of Kilauea?
No one is addressing any of that, as far as I can see.

Reply to  crosspatch
May 12, 2018 3:19 pm

For a graphic illustration of what might happen see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPIx0B9O8Us

Editor
May 12, 2018 8:34 am

The Washington Post has made an error in its article when they state “60,000 gallons of highly flammable solvent used in the powering of wind turbines” — the geothermal plant does not have “wind” turbines. It has turbine driven generators — just like a oil fired generating plant uses steam to drive turbines turning generators.
PGV works like this:
“PGV is a geothermal energy conversion plant bringing steam and hot liquid up through underground wells. The hot liquid (brine) is not used for electricity at this time. The steam is directed to a turbine generator that produces electricity.
The exhaust steam from this turbine is used to vaporize (heat) an organic working fluid, which drives a second turbine, generating additional electricity. The condensed steam from the organic fluid heat exchanger is re-injected into the ground through reinjection wells along with the brine.”
I suggest that the “organic working fluid” is the PENTANE spoken of.

May 12, 2018 8:54 am

Pentane is a heavier than air unbreathable hydrocarbon gas, very similar to though slightly heavier than butane and propane.
Pentane usually refers to n-pentane which is a liquid at room temperature, b.p. 36ºC. The low boiling liquid is used as a working fluid to extract heat from the hot water from the thermal wells to drive a turbine to generate electricity, it has nothing to do with ‘wind turbines’. The Hydrogen sulphide is emitted from the rocks themselves and will react with water or oxygen to produce sulphur, I believe there is a suggestion to pump water down the wells to cool them off and remove H2S. The H2S levels are routinely monitored:
http://72.253.107.171/operatoraqm/

R. Shearer
Reply to  Phil.
May 12, 2018 10:14 am

Yes, it’s a liquid at standard conditions and it’s incorrect to refer to it as a gas, especially in reference to gallons.

ren
May 12, 2018 8:59 am

Volcanic unrest in the lower East Rift Zone of Kīlauea Volcano continues. While no lava has been emitted from any of the 15 fissure vents since May 9, earthquake activity, ground deformation, and continuing high emission rates of sulphur dioxide indicate additional outbreaks of lava are likely. The location of future outbreaks is not known with certainty, but could include areas both uprift (southwest) and downrift (northeast) of the existing fissures, or resumption of activity at existing fissures. Communities downslope of these fissures could be at risk from lava inundation.
https://www.facebook.com/1295393007185506/videos/1784969028227899/UzpfSTcxOTM5MzcyMTU5OTkxMDo4MTE2NjI3OTU3MDYzMzU/

May 12, 2018 9:09 am

One of the potential disasters of this eruption, from what I can tell, is the magma level in the Crater falling below the water table. It has dropped over 300m so far, and , and, if it comes in contact with a substantial
amount of water, would generate one or more enormous steam explosions.

Sara
Reply to  Maxx
May 12, 2018 11:35 am

That was brought up by a geologist on the news last night: if the level drops below the water table, the resulting steam explosion (nasty!!!) can launch rocks the size of refrigerators up to 5 miles into the air. And there were tourists there, taking pictures of the volcano behind the geologist while she was talking.

Ve2
Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Darwin Award wannabes.

Reply to  Maxx
May 12, 2018 3:56 pm

Not sure what crater they are talking about , but main summit area of Kiluea is 4000 ft or 1200m. Volcanic rocks etc dont generally support a high water table anyway

May 12, 2018 9:24 am

Here’s a shot showing how close the plant is to a fissure.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/web1_20180509_brk_flo09.jpg
As far as the risk from the pentane was concerned it would have been the same as a gas station, there’s one not far away, I wonder if they’ve emptied it?

gbaikie
Reply to  Phil.
May 12, 2018 10:50 am

If 60,000 gallons of about 120 tonnes, it like about 10 gas stations.

Reply to  gbaikie
May 13, 2018 5:36 am

I was going by the original title which said 60,000 liters. Even so a gas station is not a negligible risk by comparison. The data I’ve seen says that a typical gas station stores between 30,000 and 40,000 gals in two tanks. The gas station near the volcano looks small so its storage capacity may be a bit lower.

Nashville
Reply to  Phil.
May 12, 2018 4:51 pm

I don’t see a tank farm for the 60,000 gals
I see a tank that may be 6000 gal
Too many zeros in article?

May 12, 2018 9:24 am

Tuesday is the New Moon, and the next probable point for increased quake activity. All of this started just prior to the Full Moon on April 30th. The mid Moon in between was also a point of higher activity when the last group of new vents opened.

Sara
Reply to  goldminor
May 12, 2018 11:41 am

It really depends on whether or not the Moon crosses that geographical point on the map.

J Hope
Reply to  goldminor
May 13, 2018 8:04 am

Interesting comment about the Moon, goldminor. Would it not also depend on whether the New Moon was at perigee? Nearer to the ecliptic? Any links you could provide?

Reply to  J Hope
May 13, 2018 6:15 pm

I have never followed the position of the Moon in relation to where any given stronger quake strikes. This site would have that type of information. …http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases_calendar.phtml
I have been consistently watching the daily USGS quake map since the Great Tohoku Quake in March 2011. That is what got my interest in the first place. I started keeping a daily log at Newsvine.com some months after that. Mainly, I started keeping track of the change in the number of quakes per 24 hour period, of 2.5 mag or greater.
From there it wasn’t long before I noticed that it appeared as if there was a correlation with the lunar phases from New to Full. I even tried my hand at predicting with some success, and one spot on prediction. I gave up on that as I came to realize that it was too random a process. The Moon correlation was persistent though.
Which brings me to current conditions. Around the first week of April the quake map moved out of sync with the typical patterns which I have noted over the years. Shortly after that I picked up on a claim by the USGS that April is the prime month for 6.0+ mag quakes, followed by May as second most prevalent month for larger quakes. Tying that thought in with what I see as the current state of the climate as one where we have entered into a cyclical solar induced cold trend, then it is possible that this explains why the 24 rate has gone out of sync for the last 2 months. At the moment it would be hard for someone to take note of the lunar effects on the daily/monthly 24 hour rate of change. As the daily quake map shows a higher than normal pattern of quakes that are 4.5 mag or greater and are classified with bold type by USGS, indicating a stronger quake. You can see that here, …https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#%7B%22autoUpdate%22%3A%5B%22autoUpdate%22%5D%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22satellite%22%2C%22feed%22%3A%221day_m25%22%2C%22listFormat%22%3A%22default%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A%5B%5B-78.49055166160312%2C11.6015625%5D%2C%5B78.49055166160312%2C390.234375%5D%5D%2C%22overlays%22%3A%5B%22plates%22%5D%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3A%5B%22restrictListToMap%22%5D%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22timezone%22%3A%22utc%22%2C%22viewModes%22%3A%5B%22list%22%2C%22map%22%5D%2C%22event%22%3Anull%7D

Reply to  J Hope
May 13, 2018 6:32 pm

Lastly, watch the next two days in respect to any changes in Hawaii with their ongoing crisis. If it is going to abate or worsen, then there should be some sign of that between tomorrow and Wednesday.

Reply to  J Hope
May 14, 2018 8:07 pm

The 24 hour quake rate dropped today to around 50/24hr. That is almost half as many as compered to the rate over the last 16 days. Half of the quakes are global, and the other half is in Hawaii. The global half at 25/24hr is typical behavior. The drop in the numbers may be indicating that the worst is over in Hawaii, and that global numbers will fall back to the average rate of around 30/24hr period. However, it isn’t typical to see the rate drop before tomorrows New Moon. That is still out of sync behavior. Tomorrows action will give a clue as to the direction.

Reply to  J Hope
May 15, 2018 10:18 pm

The 24 rate jumped up today. That is what I would expect to see at the New Moon. There is one spot at the northwest corner of Madagascar which has been experiencing strong quakes over the last several days. In the 7 years of observing, I do not remember seeing quakes strike at that particular location, related to the Rift of Africa?. This could be a signal of a bigger quake being imminent for this location.
Tomorrow should be an active day all around as the rate of Hawaiian quakes has risen sharply today from the low of yesterday, about 80%. Global quakes have also increased by about 50% since the lower rate seen on Monday.

Loren Wilson
May 12, 2018 9:24 am

Pentane is the working fluid of choice for secondary heat recovery in geothermal energy production. In a coal-fired power plant, the steam is usually heated to near 1000°F (540°C). Geothermal wells produce water or steam at much lower temperature and pressure, so the steam generated has less enthalpy (energy). This steam is passed through a heat exchanger to make steam for the primary turbine. It contains too many particles and minerals to send to the turbine directly. To recover more heat, the working fluid is then passed through another heat exchanger to boil pentane (normal boiling point of 36°C) and extract more work out of it before returning the water to the well. I am shocked, shocked that the geothermal power plant would be located in a geothermally hot area!!! Do these green Hawaiians think that a geothermal power plant can be located elsewhere? I watched an interview with the plant manager. People asked him if he was going to close the wells (fill them with concrete). His answer was “no”. He pointed out that the 6.9 earthquake did no damage to the wells, so he was confident that they were safe. They did plan to shut in the wells by filling them with water.

RAH
May 12, 2018 9:27 am

I remember when the Central Soya plant in Indianapolis had a hexane leak. Hexane is used in extracting the oils from the processed beans. Heavier than air and highly explosive. It leaked into the surrounding neighborhood and BAM! They concluded a passing car with a faulty ignition was the initiating force. Blew some of houses in the old neighborhood surrounding the plant off their foundations. Did a lot of work in and for that plant in the years before that explosion.

John F. Hultquist
May 12, 2018 10:04 am

One thing about this eruptive activity is that folks will become better educated about how volcanoes differ, and how the different sorts work.
For those that already know some of this, we might learn something new.
The placement of the steam plant at this location is understandable.
Neighborhoods — not so much.

commieBob
May 12, 2018 10:19 am

Worrying about the extra hazards presented by the geothermal plant is silly.

Sara
Reply to  commieBob
May 12, 2018 11:43 am

How is it silly? That’s extremely irresponsible to say something like that.

commieBob
Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 12:12 pm

As far as I can tell, the extra danger presented by the geothermal plant is tiny in comparison with the dangers presented by the volcano itself.
The headline of this story refers to 60,000 liters of flammable gas. That’s 60 cubic meters. Compare that with the 500 to 10,000 cubic meters of sulfur dioxide that the volcano emits every day. link
People are crummy at evaluating risk. link It’s always been that way. The Three Sillies

Loren Wilson
Reply to  commieBob
May 12, 2018 1:02 pm

The 60,000 liters of pentane are liquid, while the SO2 is measured as standard cubic feet of gas (usually at 1 atmosphere of pressure and 0°C, unless you work for an evil oil company then the temperature is 60°F) so this is much less mass. SO2 is extremely toxic but has excellent warning properties. It produces a strong choking sensation well below its lethal concentration and people flee if they are able to. H2S is equally as toxic but tends to desensitize your nose after exposure to less than deadly levels, so you don’t notice when the concentration increases.

Resourceguy
May 12, 2018 10:36 am

Look who’s scary now.

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