By Javier
So, you still don’t believe small changes in solar activity can significantly affect climate? You know a very cold period during the Little Ice Age coincided with the Maunder Minimum, but you have heard that the Little Ice Age could have had other causes, like volcanoes. You have been told repeatedly that since 1980 solar activity has been decreasing while global temperature has been increasing, so it can’t be the Sun.
Not so fast. There is a vested interest in climate change not being due to the Sun, as the Sun can’t be taxed or prevented from doing what it does. A further problem is that solar physicists have no clue about how the Sun can show centennial or millennial periodicities. As they prefer to talk about what they know, they reject such periodicities, even though we have evidence in cosmogenic records (14C in tree rings and 10Be in ice cores).
And if I tell you that little changes in the Sun have a disproportionate effect on climate you won’t believe me. You shouldn’t believe me. You shouldn’t believe anybody. Science is not about believing. Religion is about believing. So, I propose that you prove to yourself what effect little changes in the Sun have on climate.
You start with solar variability over the Holocene. There are lots of reconstructions, but not all are equally good. You choose Steinhilber et al., 2012 (SAB2012 from now on). It might not be the best, but it is quite good and uses both 14C and 10Be. The isotopes have different pathways. 14C makes it to CO2 and it is breathed in by trees and deposited in their rings. 10Be makes it to the ice in ice cores partially through a dry deposition pathway associated with dust, but mainly through a precipitation-dependent pathway. As the isotopes have different climatic dependencies, the effect of climate on the reconstruction is minimized by using both.
You can get the article here:
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/16/5967
And you can get the data here:
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/climate_forcing/solar_variability/steinhilber2012.txt
You can choose solar modulation phi (MV) or Total solar irradiance TSI (W/m^2). It is the same for our purpose. Let’s go with Phi (column 4). A plot of this data is:

Figure 1. Steinhilber et al., 2012 solar activity reconstruction for the past 9400 years from Cosmogenic Isotope data.
The date is in years BP (before 1950). The values after 0 BP show contamination from atomic bomb tests so they are higher than they should be. The last trough below -100 MV is the Maunder Minimum.
Now you should run a frequency analysis on the data, but you don’t need to. SAB2012 already provides a Lomb normalized periodogram as figure S16 in the supplemental data here:
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/suppl/2012/04/02/1118965109.DCSupplemental/Appendix.pdf

Figure 2. Steinhilber et al., 2012 Lomb normalized periodogram of total solar irradiance (a) and Asian climate record (δ18O) from Dongge cave, China (b). The horizontal line marks the 95% significance level.
SAB2012 noticed the similarity between solar activity and the Asian monsoon frequency analyses, but you want to keep it even simpler. You are going to select the prominent ~ 980-year periodicity. This periodicity or millennial solar cycle was named the Eddy solar cycle by Abreu et al. in 2010. So you build a 980-year sine function with the formula y = sin 2π/980(x) or its Excel equivalent = SIN((2*PI()/980)*x)

Figure 3. 980-year sine function
You need to find the phase shift, or horizontal distance that the function needs to be displaced, to match the solar activity record. It is easy to see that the solar grand minima (SGM) that are producing the 980-yr periodicity are those labeled with arrows in figure 4, so you don’t need to go into a mathematical fit for your purpose. This match requires a 500-year shift in the function.

Figure 4. Solar activity reconstruction and 980-year periodicity match.
This match is further confirmed by a different solar reconstruction that shows the entire Holocene (11,700 years). The additional 2,300 years have not been included in the periodogram from SAB2012, yet the prolongation of the sine wave (figure 5 black wave) identifies two new SGM perfectly aligned with the Eddy cycle (figure 5 arrows).

Figure 5. Vieira et al., 2011 Holocene solar activity reconstruction and the 980-year periodicity. Arrows indicate the two grand solar minima not included in the frequency analysis that clearly belong to the same cycle.
Now that you have the solar 980-year Eddy cycle correctly identified you move to some climatic data to see if solar activity affects climate. To that end you choose the Bond series of ice-rafted debris that is a proxy for iceberg activity in the North Atlantic. The data is available here:
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/bond2001/bond2001.txt
You are interested in:
“1. Figure 2, “a,b,e,e,d,g” Columns 9-10: Age model and stack (“ocean stacked” record) of % HSG from MC52, V29191, MC21, and GGC22 cores [Figure 2, 7th panel]”.
This stack averages different proxies from four cores and is what everybody uses. The Bond series reproduces very well-known Holocene climate features, like the 8.2 kyr event, the Roman Warm Period, the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age.
You plot it with the 980-year solar cycle. You might want to plot Bond data with the Y axis inverted so high iceberg activity coincides with low solar activity.

Figure 6. Bond et al., 2011 North Atlantic iceberg activity reconstruction and the 980-year periodicity. Both series show an excellent agreement except for an age drift in the Bond series and a period of poor match between ~ 4100-1800 BP.
Given the excellent match, it becomes clear that there is a drift in the data as it gets older. It is small, about ~ 200 years in 11,600 years (~ 1.7 %), and it clearly corresponds to an incorrect age model in the Bond series, since the radiocarbon data is dated to the year through tree rings, because that is how we date very old organic things.
So, the match is excellent except for a period between ~ 4100-1800 BP. What happened then? To clarify the issue, you can look at the power of the Eddy cycle over time. For that you need a 2-dimensional frequency analysis known as a wavelet spectrum. Steinhilber & Beer, 2013 provide one in their figure 1. It can be found here:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jgra.50210/full
You select the 980-year periodicity band and ignore the rest.

Figure 7. Steinhilber & Beer 2013 wavelet spectrum of solar activity over the past 9400 years.
The 980-year band shows a fall in power over the period ~ 4100-1800 BP. Now you have a possible explanation for the poor Eddy solar cycle-climate match over that period. The Eddy solar cycle had lower power then and couldn’t affect climate as much.
So, what have you shown so far?
- There is a 980-year periodicity in solar activity cosmogenic isotope records, known as the Eddy cycle.
- This periodicity shows an excellent match with North Atlantic iceberg proxy records, known as the Bond series, except for a period ~ 4100-1800 BP.
- The period of poor solar-climate match corresponds to a period when solar activity does not show a strong Eddy cycle, further reinforcing the solar-climate relationship.
What else can you conclude?
- Modern global warming corresponds to a period of high Eddy cycle solar activity.
- The next peak of the 980-year Eddy cycle extrapolates to ~ 2095. So more solar activity should be coming in the 21st century.
By now you might have finally convinced yourself that the evidence supports a very strong effect of solar variability on climate, without having to “believe” in anybody. The final question is more difficult, so it is better left for the experts.
Why has global temperature been increasing since 1980 while solar activity has been decreasing?
The answer is that solar variability has multiple effects on climate with different time lags. Total Solar Irradiation variability has a direct effect on temperature within 0-2 years of ~ 0.2 °C (Tung & Camp, 2008) for the 11-year solar cycle. This is the effect accepted by all. The stratospheric effect of UV solar variability influences the North Atlantic oscillation that is lagged by 2-4 years (Scaife et al., 2013). Kobashi et al. 2015 describe a 10-40-year lag on Greenland temperature from ice cores that they attribute to the slowdown of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation and correlates with changes in the wind stress curl in the North Atlantic with a lag of 38 years in solar variability. Several studies correlating changes in tree-ring width and solar variability document a 10-20-year lag (Eichler et al., 2009; Breitenmoser et al., 2012; Anchukaitis et al., 2017).
The existence of multiple lags means that for the full effect of solar variability to be felt on climate there is a delay of ~ 20 years. The delay is due to the recruitment of slower changing atmospheric and oceanic climatic responses.
This means two things:
- Changes over the 11-year cycle are too fast to have much impact on climate.
- The general decline in solar activity since 1980 has been felt on climate from ~ 2000, and the low solar activity of SC24 should have a maximum effect on climate ~ 2035.
The evidence suggests that solar variability strongly influences climate change. The solar-hypothesis makes very clear predictions that are the opposite of predictions from the CO2-hypothesis. Regardless of changes in CO2 levels and emissions, the world should not experience significant warming for the period 2000-2035, and might even experience some cooling. If the prediction is correct we can assume that the solar contribution to climate is stronger than the CO2 contribution. Then more warming should take place afterwards.
[Ed. Note: And that is how science should be done! Make a clear testable prediction. Andy did some very minor editing for language clarity.]
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Javier does not believe in confounding factors. Yet that very thing is the Bain of Existence for all scientists. Anyone who has only two possible drivers of recent warming, with both of them mathematically weak in terms of energy available to override and redirect a very powerful atmosphere interacting with a complicated Oceanic system, is bound to encounter a confounding factor.
Multicolinearity exists in climate data where many possible causal factors are at play on the dependent variable. Plus, cross correlation of nonlinear variables in time series has its own problems, where the independent variable is, like the old song from “Casablanca” , “As Time Goes By”. Trying prove or falsify climate hypotheses one variable at a time is a fools errand unless the hypothesis is that the variable has potentially “some” influence on the results. Proving such a conjecture would be better done by “eyeballing” in any event as no real proof or falsification is possible. Beating data to death with the wide variety of statistical tools available, under such circumstances, becomes more an exercise in “look how smart I am”. Hopefully more future data on clouds, ocean, winds, suboceanic geothermal etc., might lead us somewhere.
+10
Jim, I genuflect to your superb response. “What he says.”
Pamela,
Thank you for your kind words.
Regards,
JimG1
Same to you, goldminor.
I don’t see solar activity reconstructions for the period 1600-1900, that underwent profound climatic changes, as sufficiently different from sunspot numbers, as to lead credence to the thesis that climate contamination of the cosmogenic isotope record makes analysis like the one presented in this article unreliable.
Not a convincing objection.
Clearly Steinhilber has a problem:
http://www.leif.org/research/Steinhilber-Problem.png
and also note that the 18th century activity clearly exceeds that of the 20th, at least as Muscheler [it is his graph] sees it.
The 20th century has problems, but we know of several things that affect ¹⁴C in the 20th century that didn’t previously.
In any case the 1600-1900 data shows that your fears of climate contamination that might render the analysis invalid are unfounded. The 980-year cycle is based on the position of SGM, and those aren’t due to climate. And the effect of climate is likely so small, as the figure indicates, that it can be ignored for the purpose of the analysis.
you ignore what doesn’t fit your narrative at your peril.
I accept the possibility of being wrong, but only when the evidence shows I am wrong, not when you say so.
You cannot be wrong. That would make all the thousands of papers you claim support you be wrong too. It is hardly credible, that one person switching sides could shove all the other ones off the table. Now, if all of those were wrong to begin with, then you might be wrong too.
One person switching sides doesn’t affect how things are. You switched sides and that didn’t change anything.
ou switched sides and that didn’t change anything.
Oh yes it did. It invalidated a couple of thousands claims.
Dr. No is boasting and bragging again.
Javier March 14, 2018 at 9:51 am
and
Javier March 14, 2018 at 10:20 am
Say what? Leif just pointed out that the evidence DOES show that you are wrong … and in response, you’ve just busted out another of your endless excuses. This time it’s an even more vague excuse than usual. You blame the discrepancy on “several things” that started in 1890 … yeah, that’s real convincing …
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Leif didn’t do such thing. Let’s recapitulate:
– 980-year periodicity in solar activity reconstructions [check]
– 980-year periodicity in Bond series iceberg activity reconstruction [check]
– Phase coincidence between both [check]
Leif just gave his opinion but couldn’t change any of that.
Willis showed an interesting graphic at
March 13, 2018 at 10:52 am:
It shows solar activity plotted with a number of measures including NH temperature, SST, ice extent and glacier advance.
I think the only ones that matter are the temperature measures. Ice is strongly dependent on sea currents and wind patterns. Glaciers are dependent on precipitation patterns and so on. Ironically, the only measures in the graphic that show any amount of correlation are solar activity and temperature.
Willis’ graphic shows very good correlation between solar activity and NH temperature.
Correlation with Mediterranean SST is not so good, but then it doesn’t correlate well with NH temperature either.
The NH temperature lows and peaks line up with the four solar events (Wolf etc) very well, at least for climate data. Also, the solar and temperature graphs all show a dramatic upwards trend right at the end of the LIA.
Could this occur randomly? Certainly, but I would guess random data would generate similar apparent correlations once every thousand attempts, or even less.
In my opinion this apparent correlation is far more likely due to a real solar effect than random chance.
Chris
I am also interested in seeing the actual data that Eddy used to formulate the Eddy cycle/
Clearly there is historical evidence for a 1000 year periodicity, as some villages that the Vikingers built in Greenland are only becoming visible now. They also arrived in US/Canada must earlier than Columbus.
.My countryman Willem Barentz was convinced that a passage to the east existed otherwise he would not have risked his life going north trying to find it. He must have realized this from hearing stories about this in the Nordic countries.
The reason for this 1000 year periodicity might be different than you think, although it is sun related. My own results of my own dataset show that that the current arctic warming must be due to the movement of earth’s inner core. That means some kind of magnetic stirrer effect…..
Javier we are on the correct path no doubt it is just trying to fine tune it which is not easy. The devil is in the details and in this case those details are the items which govern the climate how much/when do they respond to external forces, and the counter trends which sometimes develop within a mean trend .
That is where this gets tough but we know from all of the data that each time a pronged period of minimum solar activity takes place the overall global temperature response is down with various lag times which are likely do to the factors I had mentioned in my earlier post today.
I fully expect to see the trend in temperatures to reverse.
I fully expect to see the trend in temperatures to reverse.
You have been saying that for many years now…
At nearly 62 years old I am still waiting for my kids to apologize for their teenage years! Yet that pales in comparison to the thousands of years that Javier needs to “wait” for the cold to set in.
Just a couple or so centuries. If the Medieval Warm Period is a good analog, the present warm period might last until ~ 2250-2300. Those are the times of Star Trek, to relate it to something people can identify.
‘Changes over the eleven year cycle are too fast to have much effect on the climate’.
Have to disagree with that. That’s bullshit.
https://youtu.be/129d-jIe4-c
https://youtu.be/nsqZJP54shg
https://youtu.be/338of49iF0k
https://youtu.be/VQGckpIr1_c
The videos are bringing out all of my points . The second one especially.
The weakening of the magnetic field if it continues will have to be dealt with because it is going to have climatic consequences.
Again being largely ignored despite the evidence from the past which shows magnetic excursions if not out right reversals having an impact with the climate to one degree or another.
When the solar/geo magnetic field are in tandem this is when the climatic impacts will be greatest.
Any uptick in silica rich volcanic major eruptions is going to have a climatic impact.
The DIFFERENCE with this low prolonged solar period of time is the magnetic field unlike during the Little Ice Age is much weaker now then it was then.
Anyone that thinks changes in magnetic fields (solar/geo) are not going to have any impacts is foolish to say the least.
Again threshold levels are in play and have to be reached in order to appreciate the effects it has.
That is the problem everyone thinks all changes no matter how slight have to have some clear cut climatic impact not true. It needs a level of change in degree of magnitude ,duration of time to get that more of a direct climatic impact.
The protection from solar flairs due to our weakening magnetic field is occurring, this is potentially a bigger threat then the climate. The sun currently is so exceptionally quiet but that is now.
A given solar flair today can be much weaker then previous ones and have the same effects, due to our weakening magnetic field.
This video is bringing out what needs to be brought out.
This article and particularly the comments that followed have been most interesting and I have come back to it several times to watch its evolution. Sometimes, I wanted to put on a Zebra Uniform and start calling fouls or penalties (pick you sport) but the arguments and counter-arguments have been too exquisite to interrupt with my lack of scientific horsepower on the subject (remember: just a biologist). But, consider me one of the Great Unwashed (although an AGW skeptic), along with many others, who will eventually need to make decisions (by voting or influencing others) on how we will proceed concerning future actions to “combat” AGW.
I have no technical expertise to offer here. Intuitively (based on short-term empirical observation), I feel that the sun must be involved in weather/climate but that other factors must be important, as well, as variability is an issue to be reckoned. But, intuition is not scientific proof! Unfortunately, many of the “historical” datasets that are used by all and span time periods of thousands of years and much longer are not proof, just proxies. (JimG’s preceding post (March 14, 10:03 AM) is a nugget worth digesting.)
Still, the effort to find a truth using extraordinary means and data should not be restricted but the assumptions about the accuracy and precision of proxy data should be treated conservatively. The question by Javier and the counters that follow are foundational to the question of what controls climate (particularly temperature) and it should be treated with utmost respect because the question and answer (Is it the sun, or not?) is something that the general public can absorb and understand.
My apologies for the philosophical slant to this technical discussion.