Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t JoNova – The cold is biting Britain so hard domestic gas use is causing a supply shortage, forcing the British government to ask industrial users to reduce energy expenditure to preserve supply to households.
UK running out of gas, warns National Grid
Perfect storm of freezing weather and supply problems prompts call for more fuel immediately
Adam Vaughan
Fri 2 Mar 2018 02.36 AEDT First published on Thu 1 Mar 2018 19.56 AEDT
National Grid has warned that the UK would not have enough gas to meet public demand on Thursday, as temperatures plummeted and imports were affected by outages.
But the government said households would not notice disruptions to their supply or any increase in energy bills because suppliers, including British Gas, bought energy further ahead. The energy minister Claire Perry said people should cook and use their heating as they would normally.
But experts said there was a strong chance that industrial users could experience interruptions to their gas supply.
Within-day wholesale gas prices soared 74% to 200p per therm after the formal deficit warning, which acts as a call to suppliers to bring forward more gas. It is the first time such an alert has been issued since 2010.
By lunchtime on Thursday the price had spiked even higher, hitting a high of 275p per therm at one point.
National Grid’s forecast for the day initially showed a shortfall across the day of 49.5m cubic metres (mcm) below the country’s projected need of 395.7mcm, which would normally be around 300mcm at this time of year. The gas deficit warning aims to fill the gap, which has since narrowed to 16.5mcm.
“We are in communication with industry partners and are closely monitoring the situation,” the company said.
The UK Government MET office has issued severe weather warnings, such as the following;
Chief Forecaster’s assessment
Widespread snow is expected to develop through Thursday afternoon and evening. Around 10-20 cm is likely to fall widely, with the potential for up to 30 to 50 cm over parts of Dartmoor, Exmoor and parts of southeast Wales. Snowfall will be accompanied by strong to gale easterly winds, leading to severe drifting of lying snow especially in upland areas. Severe cold and wind chill will compound the dangerous conditions, with very poor visibility. Towards midnight, there is a chance of snow turning to freezing rain in places, mainly across the south of the area, with widespread icy stretches making driving conditions particularly dangerous.
Source: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings#?date=2018-03-01
This deep freeze is occurring despite predictions just a few years ago that global warming would cause wetter, milder winters;
National Trust campaign highlights how gardens will look if global warming brings Mediterranean weather to Britain
By David Derbyshire for MailOnline
UPDATED: 19:04 AEDT, 24 March 2010
The apple orchards have been replaced with orange groves, the turf covered over with gravel and the summer borders replanted with cacti.
They may look like scenes from a Portugese holiday, but these images could be the future of the traditional English garden, plant experts claimed yesterday.
The striking images are part of a National Trust campaign to highlight how gardens will look if global warming brings Mediterranean weather to Britain in the next few decades.
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No word yet on when the UK’s 12 GW of installed solar panel capacity will kick in to alleviate the load on gas supplies.
I bet a few good coal plants humming merrily along would look awfully good about now.
Yes, you’re right, Bruce. But our politicians have not only allowed the UK’s only large gas store to be decommissioned – without replacement – but have also closed down almost all our nation’s coal-fired power stations. That is because they were producing evil CO2. Luckily, they converted some to burn wood pellets which are shipped over from the States. Even luckier, they have encouraged companies to build wind turbines and develop solar panel farms. It’s just bad luck, I guess, that the wind is howling at around 70 mph across the nation so the windmills have to be turned off for safety reasons (windfarm shareholders should not panic, though, because the Government are obliged to pay them money NOT to generate electricity – how cool is that?). And everywhere is covered in snow – including, of course, the solar panels…
Much better, though, to have industry threatened with turning off their gas supplies instead of adding insignificant amounts of CO2 to the atmosphere while old people shiver at home, unable to pay their power bills which have seen a 9% uplift to pay for wind farm developments.
Or in the words of the great Anthony Watts – the stupid, it burns.
maybe they can use the burning stupid to heat their homes 🙂
Us Yanks are always glad to ship wood pellets 3000+ miles to the UK so your stupid politicians don’t freeze you to death.
Call it the “wood pellet Marshal plan”…
I’m going to invent a solar panel windscreen wiper that operates from it’s own solar panel energy.
I’ll be rich, I tell you, stinking rich!
Oh…..whats that, the wiper will use up more energy than the panel will produce.
Drat…….back to the drawing board.
Hey, Canada ships huge quantities of wood pellets to the UK too. I just looked up our natural gas prices and at today’s rate the UK is paying about 17 times what we are currently paying. Care for more pellets?
About time for UK to wake up and start buying some more of that cheap and plentiful Russian gas.
And the Government has done its best to stop fracking (to please the green idiot voters and the young who have been propagandised).
https://youtu.be/TaBVKN6QEUY
And always the poor hit hardest.
BS alert re above. Facts from the UK. Actually, we have a substantial 10GW of coal fired power stations in reserve – that are now delivering 10GW. As are wind farms. See pic. I was wondering a yesterday why gas was not flat out as it usually is… A: We are in gas conservation mode.
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Don’t believe the made up nonsense above, it seems that even in this forum there are propagandists, so verify with the below website. IT’s actually much worse than that.
FACT: If there was no wind or coal generating today we would ipso facto be 20GW short, probaly in power cuts, and in the total nonsense of emergency diesel engine farms, subsidised in “capacity payments”, built in solar panel parks, plus back up gene’s in hospitals connected to the grid. While the policy is nonsense, unvalidated false opinions that deny the facts won’t solve anything – because they are obviously WRONG. The 1.5GW wood chip firing of former coal fired DRAX is flat out also (small dial top right) , but don’t stop that or the convicted criminal and former enrgy secretary, Chris Huhne, who runs the UK end of the wood chip subsidy racket for the green mafia, won’t get richer.
We don’t need no steenking Putin gassing us all either. It IS the fact we really don’t need windmills or coal IF we just get the 40 years of Bowland shale gas out of the ground, far easier and safer than from under the North Sea. When Nigel Farage told the audience in Blackpool this and how much it would help Lancashire’s economy as it develops on TV last night (Question Time) they were booing – peope are the [roblem everywehere, the people of Lancashire are typically either so ignorant, stupid or gullible they prefer the lies of extremist propaganda to the technical facts they could check in minutes by reading the study papers and understanding how the tchnoogy works. Simple, but so are they, fearful peasants have always been easy for trouble makers to exploit to resist progress.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
It does France as well, nukes plus hydro is fine but….. Macronman is changing all this to windmills, he says. http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
If you need the UK facts, check gridwatch, don’t trust the very un scientific people above who don’t verify if their beliefs match the facts. Seems people here who claim to prefer what works, are as happy to write what they believe and not what the facts are as the greenshirts are about renewables.
Only the solar is a guess, from a religious climate centre university temple of greenness for grant somewhere. Solar PV has an 11% duty cycle in the UK, but its so small and almost zero i nwinter so it doesn’t matter. In the words of the old Jewish corned beef trading joke (the response from seller to buyer when when the much traded corned beef is found to be badly off by the the buyer who opens it to see what he is actually buying and finds it is inedible …….
“You schmuck! The solar panels are for business, they’re not for energy!”
As a final note, health and safety nonsense will kill people from hypothermia – if the electricity fails, the gas valves in modern appliances are shut, so all sources of heating are cut off – it’s the law.
I wish it was only 9%. The hidden costs work out nearer 30% on electric heating which most of the poorer people are using.
BCBILL at March 1, 2018 at 7:15 pm
Canada imports some wood from Norway. The Thunder Bay Biomass Plant was Nominated for a Teddy award in 2016 for it.
“Thunder Bay Biomass Plant Nominated for: Most Expensive Norwegian Wood (Isn’t It Good?) Cost: $40 million (annually) Ontario’s Auditor General uncovered the wasteful conversion of a Thunder Bay coal plant into a biomass facility. In 2013 the Minister of Energy Bob Chiarelli decided that the Thunder Bay coal plant would be converted to burn forestry by-products. The Ontario Power Authority (OPA) advising the government against it after a review that showed the conversion wouldn’t be cost effective. The plant is a peaking resource that only operates the equivalent of five full capacity days a year while employing 60 full time staff. At a cost of $40 million a year it will only generate 15,000 MWh, putting electricity costs from that plant at $1,600 per megawatt hour, which is approximately 25 times more expensive than electricity from the average biomass facility. Originally, the hope was that jobs would be created in Ontario’s forestry industry – but the biomass plant was not able to use ordinary wood chips readily available in Northwestern Ontario, so it is required to import special wood chips from Norway”
If it’s Other People’s Money, it doesn’t matter, does it.
It’s all about trying new things and change. There’s always so much money for these things. It just keeps coming from the taxpayer? If we run out someone will always bail us out. It’s the EU, Canadian, US way. That’s what a few trillion dollars of debt leverage is for. This globalist money keeps flowing? how strange…
What’s left of them have been red lining it all day. Eased up a tad now demand has dropped off overnight but not a lot. Still busy saving on gas by the looks of it.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/index.php
And not a single power station in London. All their ‘carbon emissions, and particulates, farmed out to the country bumkins.
Yet the ingrates still bitch about air quality within London.
AJB, that’s electricity demand. For UK gas demand/supply you need
http://mip-prod-web.azurewebsites.net/PrevailingView/Index
Sorry, but they turned Drax into an abortion that they fuel with wood chips imported from the US. It is a total mis-allocation of resources. Drax was an uber clean coal fired plant. Chopping down and shredding trees in the US to fuel it should be declared a crime.
Don’t worry about the wood being shipped out of Texas ShrNfr. They are mesquite trees which is an invasive and water gulping weed. We burn as much as we can in our BBQ pits, fireplaces and help with the effort to get a little more carbon in the air but still have millions have acres. The tree has vicious little thorns, offers little shade and has the longest tap root. It costs a lot to eradicate so the export is a pretty good deal for the land owners and the UK.
We grow them especially to be cut down quickly and turned into your pellets. It is the same as our growing trees especially to produce paper products.
Drive on USA, drive on.
There is no reason avoid burning wood. Good forestry including wild fire protection requires chopping wood to chips.
Just do good forestry. And don’t buy or let others buy illegally downed wood from development countries.
‘Ecologist’ disagrees, would be good to know the truth.
https://theecologist.org/2017/apr/10/no-drax-theres-nothing-sustainable-about-big-biomass
Perhaps they can borrow their neighbor’s burka to help stay warm.
Yes. The Fiddlers Ferry power plant on the Mersey does overtime these days. Perhaps someone in power wakes up and reverses the idiotic decision to mothball and then scrap a perfectly good power generator.
‘Ferry Down the Mersey?’
Cross
Is there a way to get paid for NOT generating electricity online? I think I could handle that, and it would be pretty carbon efficient too, no trips to the bank – I take wire transfers as payment.
The solar wont do much good for heating a home because The 12GW of solar is probably photovoltaic and NOT solar thermal installations. All electricity generated from photovoltaic is added to the grid but since electricity is too expensive to heat your home ; almost all home heating is natural gas. So in this article only the industrial users have a problem because of the consumer natural gas guaranteed supply. They can only guarantee supply by taking it away from the industrial users but all Britons will pay in the end for that strategy. Since natural gas produces BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAd CO2 this is not a CO2 story.
That warning about gas reserves was scrubbed a few hours later….
in fact nearly all Britain’s coal plants are up and running using up their allotted running hours and making what profit there is.
As its blowing a half gale, wind power is there at a similar level.
solar panels covered in snow and the country is overcast
help yourself to facts
http://gridwatch.org.uk
http://vps.templar.co.uk/chez%20moi/DSC_0003.JPG
That’s a great site. It has nearly everything one might want to know. It’s a pity that the meters don’t have a second scale to show the % of installed capacity that’s being used, because although it looks like wind power is doing well (equivalent to nearly 5 power stations), we don’t know what proportion of installed capacity that represents.
You couldn’t make it up. This morning’s Grauniad rants on about the Tory Govenrment’s lack of planning to allow for adequate gas supplies. But as the greenest of green newspapers it also continuosly rants on about shutting down fossil fuel supplies so that we can install expensive, inefficient, low densirty, intermittent renewables. .
I thought the UK had massive onshore gas reserves but Graunaiad’s greenie readers protest against allowing fracking to be used to extract the gas. Unintended consequences !!
It is only our few remaining coal plants that have averted disaster – they have been humming at beyond full power all week (10 gw maximum, but giving 11.5 gw). While solar-power has been doing nothing, and bio-power has been equally poor. Wind has been running at 50% of max all week, despite the higher coastal winds this week, presumably because of blade icing.
This link gives real time UK power production:
http://clivebest.com/rgraph/Wind.html
Ralph
And next winter there will be less coal generation so the blackouts move a step closer.
As an interesting point, I have recorded my highest weekly gas usage in the 3 years I have lived in my house.
That’s global warming Gerry. We know one winter isn’t an accurate representation of global temperature change but some of us actually follow trends. That’s why they can’t call it CAGW anymore. We have to call it catastrophic anthropomorphic climate change now. It covers all the bases. Whatever happens, we can blame it on carbon emissions.
Children in the UK still won’t know what snow is…..because it will be renamed to something like climate change disruption flakes.
+1
Not to mention that snow flake now means something completely different….
Yes, plenty of snowflakes here in the UK!
Global warming snowflakes falling and tripping all around due to icy roads.
Quality comedy. But as ever with climate junk science you flirt dangerously with Poe’s Law.
Can you be jailed in the UK for calling a snowflake a snowflake?
eyesonu
Snowflake command demands it!
No but it’s illegal for a Yorkshireman to call a spade a spade.
Depends if anybody perceives it as a ‘hate crime’.
‘The victim does not have to justify or provide evidence of their belief, and police officers or staff should not directly challenge this perception. Evidence of the hostility is not required for an incident or crime to be recorded as a hate crime or hate incident.’ (1.2.3 of College of Policing Operational Guidance)
Yes, you could end up on trial at the world “court” for crimes against humanity and other misc. charges. The UN would also be an intervenor.
Probably.
It’s going to be a White Brexit.
ResourceGuy
Yay! Fork em all.
Turn on the solar and wind farms.
Gotta go out and give ALL those Solar Panels the old Brush Off to remove the 8-10″ / 20-25cm of the white stuff just to get them functioning THEN discover thet the Light Quality is so poor they only produce around 5% of NamePlate
Simple solution:
Wire each panel to a NOT gate, so you gain excessive power when the panels are obscured.
/sarc
Actually, the wind is currently producing 11% of the total. That is quite an expanse of wind though blowing across the UK.
Gotta say that’s really indicative of the shortage produced by divesting from coal power. Only 11%. because the wind is presently strong. Even with the current dis-figuration of the landscape they already make. Can you imagine the audiovisual perversion of reality when they achieve saturation?
Let’s hope that never happens, the saturation I mean.
We live some 15 miles away from the met office in Exeter which ironically was right in the eye of their own red weather warning.
It’s just before 10 and I am watching the new series of civilisation on tv. We are toasty warm in our gas fuelled house
It has just started raining a little and the temperature is hovering around freezing after being at around minus three all day. One of the coldest march days ever.
Ironically this is a favourite place to live for some of the met office staff but the local news tells us we are cut off. The coast road has cars stranded on it whilst the main road is up the notorious high and steep haldon hill and is impassable.
Mind yOu it’s only a few inches of snow, but the gale force winds have blown it into three foot deep drifts opposite our house. It’s the strong cold east wind that is the main problem and with high tides and this easterly, expect flooding tomorrow and perhaps the closure of the main railway line through dawlish.
Tonyb
It’s the Russians. Not content to interfere with US elections (and any others), now they have to send their cold air to GB. Bastards.
“It’s the Russians…. now they have to send their cold air to GB.”
So they can sell us more of their gas!
CRAFTY Bastards.
Vlad says his military has developed nukes that make NATO defences useless. Msybe we could talk him into setting one oft them off close to home and using Russian wind turbines to blow the heat generated to the UK.
For years Russia Today has been promoting (giving a platform without any contradiction or even common sense questions)
– Kevin Kamps of “Beyond Nuclear”
– Helen Caldicott
– Arnie Gundersen of “Fairewinds Energy”
– that mayor of a Fukushima city who ordered, without mandate, a stupid, unnecessary, disorganized evacuation that caused many death
and certainly many other cranks that peddle anti radiation anti fission propaganda.
Or course, this wasn’t “electoral” speech so special counsel Mueller won’t indict anybody for the so called crime of “conspiracy again the US” and for breaking the so called “electoral law” (on speech). It’s still noxious “interference”.
Are these crank propagandists registered as “agents of a foreign power”? They sometimes look like such.
(Of course, I don’t support state regulation of political speech.)
after the nor’easter finshes here, it’ll be bringing you some more global warming …
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nor-easter-set-slam-east-coast-severe-winds-rain-flooding-n852326
And the UK better prepare too. All that snow has to go somewhere when the melt starts. With any luck it will be accompanied with a lot of rain.
It’s just scaremongering. The EU’s stock of solar panels will pick up the slack.
Curse you autocorrect, that was supposed to be snowlar panels.
Love it!
YES.
How does a snowlar ™ panel works?
It drows on the solar energy stockpiled in the Earth on summer. The snow is cold source, the Earth the Heat source. I converts snow into water, and we all how precious water is. Not just save water, produce it!
And it can produce a whopping 0.01W/m² for a tremendous 100 hours a year (if there is snow).
It only cost 60£/m², and only need 59£ installation subsidies, + 1£/Wh subsidy to run. Real bargain.
It can be installed on roofs and walls, with the added benefit that is then work on the leaked heat, and works even better when the building has no insulation. Yes, that right, thanks to snowlar panels you don’t need to invest in a costly insulation, The more energy you use for heating, the more electricity you get! win-win!
Buy NOW our snowlar panel
In 2013-14 the upper midwest, had one of the toughest winters in the past century, propane supplies were terribly low for almost all the distributors, and the spot price was off the charts. The people who were hurt the most were fixed and low income rural residents. The good news is that a Republican governor was able to take some limited steps to ease the problems.
Any government official, elected or appointed, that pushes renewables at the the cost of today’s potential security and reliability issues should be publicly flogged and sent packing without their pensions.
Mark, absolutely so. When politicians put people’s lives at risk in order to indulge unevidenced pseudoscientific politically correct fantasies then the consequences for failure need to be commensurately severe.
Wait til Winter 2020, closer to the sunspot minimum. Those who shut down cheap reliable sources should be disconnected from any electric grid and fossil fuel sources, as well as paycheck/pension garnished.
These days they publicly flog the sex perverts among themselves to draw attention away from the real issues. Then they praise themselves for being so virtuous as to place mother Gaia above the dregs of humanity.
I forgot to mention that I live in Torquay on the so called English Rivera. I have many succulents in the gaden which I protected with fleece. However they are coverd in snow and the petals appear to be frozen stiff so I expect they will all need to be replaced.
This happens every five years or so. The council, with govt encouragement, ran courses for local business in how to adapt to the coming Mediterranean climate. I kid you not. Mind you I haven’t seen them promoting it for a couple of Years now.
Tonyb
The adaptation to Mediterranean climate is only a small example of green jobs provided by the climate change. Then for every job lost in a coal-powered powered plant there will be 23 new jobs in a “renewable” industry. Finally, each farming job will be replaced by 17(?) hunting-gathering jobs.
You mean 17 freezing consumers hunting for the idiot who demanded CAGW “solutions” ?
It’s snowing in the Mediterranean; I wonder if they use fleece there.
What the hell; as long as they don’t promote Mediterranean banking and freeze more than 1% of the population, you come out ahead.
climatereason,
Sounds like you were “fleeced.” 🙂
Being from the country that sells you wood pellets, I’m not familiar with how your councils work, but were the courses you mentioned provided because of an honest, but stupid (mind-numbing?) belief that a Mediterranean climate was actually coming, or was it a scam to try to use the courses to convince locals that that “climate change” is real?
Phil
The money was provided by the UK Govt to councils that were tourist oriented and likely to benefit from a warmer climate. I think the money initially came from the EU.
I was in NIce france last week for the carnival. It was cool and cloudy. They had a lot of snow on Tuesday night.
tonyb
My children wont know what snow is. While they sleep soundly after a day off school snowball fighting and stuff.
Until tomorrow, when they will be able to do it all over gain, fresh, as it is snowing, lots, while I type this.
Warning: Brits be on the lookout for starving penguins foraging for oranges and call the RSPCA.
http://quadrant.org.au/sbs-snow-job/
Just be sure to let us know if the English Ice Shelf breaks off. I live in Western Canada only 1000 miles from the ocean and I can’t swim. -30C here at night last week but the t record low was -37 in 1962. It really was colder back then. This winter is just a warning shot!
“I’ve been warm and I’ve been cold, and warm is better.”
― with apologies to Mae West
Rather: “…. the UK’s 937,421 solar installations rated at 12,910 MW kicked in to alleviate the load on gas supplies.”
Cumulative total generation estimated 5.45 GWh
https://www.solar.sheffield.ac.uk/pvlive/
Operationally – a pathetic 1.76% Capacity Factor
Lol!
The panels suck a little heat out of the rain as it runs off them!
That is the Australian experience with Solar they work really well when you don’t need the power. Our energy peaks are in the evening when it’s dark.
Solar Power Generation in the UK must work for a good ten days in July at least.
Pity we don’t have air-con.
But . . . but . . . I was assured that “Snowfalls in England are now a thing of the past.” http://tinyurl.com/hdbebqr
Good thing you archived that article. The Independent took it down a couple of years ago.
Disappearing inconvenient history has a long pedigree, Jorge.
Archive every alarmist statement.
That the Independent hid that, tells a lot how much they believe in their own crap.
Well, at least they didn’t rewrite it, although I suspect that time is coming.
Brian
From the March 2000 article you link to:-
Interesting. How come no one ever quotes that bit?
Because it hasn’t been twenty years since snow, nor even ten, nor even five. In fact the prediction was, like all global warming hysterical claims, sheer bull****. Now do you get it?
UK is never prepared for snow, Viner thought he was being cunning with that one but it just makes him more of a laughing stock.
Cuadrilla Resources shale gas drilling project in Lancashire can’t come online soon enough.
https://www.thegwpf.com/matt-ridley-britain-needs-to-embrace-the-shale-revolution/
So…..Ask your MPs why we do not have a ready source of gas from the shale fracking in Lancashire by now?
(Answers on a biodegradable postcard please)
But the Brits have gone into renewable energy in a big way, so how can there be shortages?/snark
Al Gore must be over there .
I think Mr. Gore should be required to wear a GPS Tracker so that weather bureaus will always know his location and will be able to adjust their weather forecasts appropriately based on that knowledge.
Waste of energy. Use it for a drone strike against eco terror. . Save the world from the Jimmy Swaggart of climate change.
Of course, in green/nationalist dominated Scotland, the ridiculous SNP government has banned frac’ing despite the probable presence of significant deposits of shale gas. Instead, they continue to destroy the landscape with ever-increasing numbers of wind turbines and waste money investing in making fanciful claims about wave energy that have, so far, proved to be worthless….at tax payers’ expense! Ridiculous!
They’ll burn peat – for a few decades.
They are also fairly close to the Arctic Circle, so, even though they have wind, and, possibly, tide- or wave-power, there is little solar between October and March, when, as I undertstand, it is cooler.
Auto
The hope of independence is probably a major factor, keep the gas in place until it is really needed by Scotland, meanwhile get English bill payers to cover most of the cost of wind power, rely on English fossil fuel power stations for back-up, and maintain a constant clamour for more interconnectors, mostly paid for by … guess who.
Thanks Eric, as always, for keeping us so well-informed.
The BBC has a program called ‘Grand Designs’. The Series follows the construction of homes in the United Kingdom with spin-offs in the rest of the world.
I would love to see a ‘where are they now’ on all the flat roofed, glass walled, eco-structures this program has promoted. I suspect a ‘where are they right now’ would be on the roof shovelling as their pipes explode and the wind turbines and solar panels fail & die.
One such …
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/abandoned-grand-designs-eco-dome-8022563
Every sign of a real estate scam there. Note – if anyone ever tells you to not go through EBay, Amazon, etc. (where they advertise) – run! And report it to the company (and maybe whatever your consumer fraud agency is).
Especially EBay – the seller doesn’t get the money until the product is shipped or the service is completed, and the buyer signs off on it. Give the money directly to the seller, and it is highly unlikely you’ll ever see what you bought, or the money.
There was one with a useless wind turbine that cost the owner a fortune to dispose of. And one that burnt down (made of wood and straw) and the owner couldn’t afford to insure it.
They should’ve known better — the big, bad wolf destroys wood and straw houses. Should’ve used bricks.
This isn’t really happening. Must be fake news. Dr. David Viner said in 2000 that children just wouldn’t know what snow is, so it can’t be snow. Or else, it isn’t Britain.
I don’t know . The education system is getting pretty bad. A lot of kids don’t know what anything is!
Was he peer reviewed? i won’t take the expert advice of just any climate plonker, I tell you!
Must be those shneaky Russians making synthetic snow with their secret weather machines!
I thought it was George Bush’s secret weather machine?
My first comment is WHEN THE SUN COMES OUT! But then again at 52N, London may only have a few hours a day this time of year to get anything substantial out of those panels. Pretty sure they won’t be operating at nameplate capacity.
What is not discussed here is the UK needs MORE solar to alleviate this issue.
I gather that the solar installation has its output impeded by a two inch covering of snow.
Even in daytime.
Odd, that.
Auto.
The solution to failed Socialism is always more Socialism.
Could we also get some photos of the clothing used by drivers and passengers of electric cars lacking heaters.
Spent the evening driving home from work in Salisbury from 17.30 hrs until about 21.15 hours, a journey of about 12 miles. The delay was pulling people out of trouble and giving them a tow up hills, including a 10 ton lorry stuck at Harnham traffic lights tonight. Amazing what a Landrover Discovery 4×4 fitted with snow chains can do – plus the 20 odd volunteers pushing at the other end of the lorry at the same time! So many grateful people helped tonight and so many other volunteers out giving a push and clearing snow. Brings out the best of British.
Its still snowing, reckon we’ll get close to a foot tonight if it continues. And we are not in the worst area. So much for global warming!
How are you guys fitted out with snow plows?
The plows were out last night, the problem is where vehicles get stuck and block the road. People were moaning that the plows weren’t gritting but I think it was the right decision not to. With so much snow falling the grit would just have been covered over. The snow stopped about 11 pm, so we ended up with about 6 inches where I am. There is possibly more snow forecast this afternoon, but as the warm air pushes in over the weekend I think by Sunday most of the snow will have gone here in the Southern part of England.
Thanks ThinkingScientist,
When the weather turns horrible, people need help and the best people in the world are the ones who provide that help. The really bad weather is rare, so it is not a full-time job to be one of the best people in the world.
As a fellow Land Rover owner (2006 LR3) I commend you on your assistance to the less fortunate.
I live in Boston, Massachusetts. We frequently get serious snowstorms (at least one or 2 each winter that dumps more than 6″ on us) as well as Nor’easters that dump huge quantities of rain — like the one we’re having now. I work for a hospital, so no “snow days”, and usually end up with a car full of passengers who I rescued from waiting for the local bus on days like today — because waiting for a bus is no fun.
Well done. I used to do the same in previous snowy years with my series 3 and 90 landrovers although without the chains. What I found odd was the number of people who appeared to be ungrateful at being helped. I used to get similar looks and comments from ramblers and horse riders when I used my vehicles and time to clean up “fly tip” rubbish form RUPPs and Byways.
I did have a ’94 Discovery and an ’85 90 which I converted to V8 and 4 speed auto (ZF 4HP22).