Claim: Canadian PM Tried to Please Everyone on Climate Policy

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, his wife Sophie Gregoire, and daughter Ella-Grace wave as they board a government plane in Ottawa, Monday August 29, 2016. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld
No kids,

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Globe and Mail reporter Campbell Clark suggests Canadian PM Justin Trudeau is being attacked on all sides, thanks to his efforts to try to please everyone, to develop Canadian energy and fight climate change at the same time.

Trudeau has the country’s only viable policy for climate change and pipelines

Campbell Clark

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau thought he’d struck a middle-ground political balance on pipelines and climate policy, but it looks like the centre is getting harder to hold.

The problem for Canadians is that the centre is the only viable path.

B.C. Premier John Horgan is threatening to block the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. The three main leadership candidates for Ontario’s Progressive Conservative Party are promising to dump the party’s pledge to adopt a carbon tax. Jason Kenney, Leader of Alberta’s United Conservatives, pledges to kill that province’s carbon tax if he is elected – and polls suggest he probably will be.

All of that is a mounting challenge to Mr. Trudeau’s formula. He had staked out the political middle by promising Canadians they could have both things at once: He’d get resources to market, approving at least one new oil pipeline, but also act on climate change, including putting a price on carbon.

Now, he’s getting attacked from both sides – accused of failing to stop B.C.’s threats to block Trans Mountain, and from the other end of the spectrum of buckling under to the oil industry and sacrificing the environment.

Read more (paywalled): https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/trudeau-has-the-countrys-only-viable-policy-for-climate-change-and-pipelines/article37935376/

What a surprise – try to please everybody, end up pleasing nobody.

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markl
February 11, 2018 8:08 pm

It’s the same old story….. everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. However, Trudeau’s approach so far is he would prefer more people to die and only the anointed go to heaven.

commieBob
Reply to  markl
February 11, 2018 10:29 pm

Trudeau is taking advantage of a lesson that his father learned the hard way. In response to the Arab Oil Shocks, his father brought in the National Energy Program in 1980. As a result, Eastern Canada had a reliable source of oil and the economy continued to tick along. On the other hand, Alberta could have sold its oil for much more at world prices. The Albertans, and westerners in general, felt ripped off. Because of that, Trudeau Sr’s Liberals then had trouble getting elected west of Manitoba. There was even talk of Alberta secession.
If Trudeau Jr. leaves Alberta with no way to get its oil to tide water, the old alienation will again raise its head.
The NDP government in British Columbia (BC) relies on three Green Party seats to keep itself in power. It has to oppose the pipeline or lose power. If Trudeau manages to ram through the pipeline over BC’s objections, the greens will hate him forever, but they are a small minority. If he doesn’t ram through the pipeline, everyone in Alberta will hate him forever. His Liberal party will lose far fewer votes by supporting the pipeline than by opposing it.
I despise Trudeau, but if we’re being fair, in this case he’s doing what he has to do.
I remember this little poem about Trudeau Sr.:

I’m proud to be Canadian.
I’m proud that I am free.
I wish I was a little dog,
and Trudeau was a tree.

John harmsworth
Reply to  commieBob
February 12, 2018 5:48 am

Pretty accurate summation, Bob. The only thing I would add is that he made his own bed by trying to b.s. everybody from the start. He just uses the soft approach where his old man was a lot more tough and stubborn. Very similar underlying view of the country. Kind of like Hillary only likable.

Mick
Reply to  commieBob
February 13, 2018 10:11 am

Trudocchio

Tom Judd
Reply to  markl
February 12, 2018 7:26 am

One person’s heaven is another person’s hell.

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  markl
February 12, 2018 9:31 am

Mark I, think you nicely summed up how completely Justin has managed to put any shred of integrity aside in favor of some form of political wishful thinking.

CraigAustin
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 13, 2018 6:29 am

Giving Justine credit for integrity and thinking, is itself wishful thinking.

Extreme Hiatus
February 11, 2018 8:12 pm

Justin is just a pretty air-headed puppet. Good for TV with a script. He said yes to one pipeline project because he was told to but knew that, thanks to his allies, it would probably not get done. He said no to others.
What passes for his brain is his handler, Gerald Butts. Here’s a sanitized description of him:
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/the-man-behind-the-curtain-why-gerald-butts-is-trudeaus-most-trusted-adviser
As they say, Justin loves Butts.

Doug in Calgary
Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
February 12, 2018 12:30 am

Justin, the delusional man-child operating in a brain-free environment, does and says what Gerald Butts and the UN want him to. His main claims to fame before politics were substitute drama teacher and snowboard instructor. He is an admirer of the way they do things in China and Fidel Castro was a family friend. His dad was a card carrying communist party member in university
Gerald Butts is past director of the World Wildlife Fund Canada and one of the socialist architects of the Ontario economic disaster. He is not elected but he is Justin’s best buddy and primary advisor, and has an inordinate amount of say in just about everything.

Roger Graves
Reply to  Doug in Calgary
February 12, 2018 7:28 am

Or as we say, the Prime Minister of Canada is Gerald Butts and his press secretary is Justin Trudeau.

Sara
Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
February 12, 2018 6:31 am

Extreme, out of mere kindness, you could have posted a spew alert before you added that very last line!!!
I was drinking hot tea. That’s just cruel!

Boris
Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
February 12, 2018 9:07 pm

Gerald Butts was the head of the World Wildlife Fund in Canada before he went to be an adviser for the Ontario Liberals. With his advice Ontario had the gas plant scandal and their form of renewable energy policy which increased the normal households electricity bill by 750% or more. Now he is advising Trudeau and Climate Barbie McKenna. The new policy just unveiled by Trudeau, Butts and McKenna was touted as the greatest set of regulations and policies to allow for energy projects to be approved in two years (or not) as the process has a time line involved now. Failed Enbridge Gateway pipeline was dragged out for 7 years before it was cancelled by Trudeau just after the liberals were elected in 2015. They have not come out and said what is going to happen after the 2 years if there is no approval in the time line yet. Instead of the just environmental and project impacts on the environment the Liberals have added things like Indigenous impacts and approvals ( or disapproval ), Gender impacts ( I am not making this up ) and the cost to the environment in the amount of carbon produced in the full cycle of the resource from the well head, To transporting, to the refining to the end use of a product. TransCanada Pipelines cancelled a 15 billion dollar pipeline project Energy East just last spring because they would have been libel for the total carbon tax on the product as it was laided out in the regulations. Suncor’s President has stated last week that they are looking for investment opportunities outside of Canada because there is little profit margin left on any new energy projects and the approval process has become to uncertain and expensive. I fully expect this is a ploy by Butts and McKenna to stop all fossil fuel development in Canada.

douglascooper
February 11, 2018 8:14 pm

If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs….

Reply to  douglascooper
February 11, 2018 8:28 pm

Like!

R. Shearer
February 11, 2018 8:20 pm

How about Bob and Doug McKenzie?

February 11, 2018 8:20 pm

Leaders take hard positions and often the difficult path.
No matter which side of those issues you fall, you can be assured Justin Trudeau is no leader for Canada, right or left.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
February 11, 2018 8:29 pm

True!

February 11, 2018 8:28 pm

I suffered from the fires in Montana for there was so much CO2 in the air. I almost had to go to the hospital for Oxygen. There were so much gas fuel fumes in Havana Cuba air, by the end of the day, my B and B smelled like it was mopped with gasoline. Gag!
I began to think about our Chemistry Tables. Helium is lighter than Nitrogen and Oxygen. Years ago I studied Carbon and if I remember right, Carbon is about six-times heavier than Nitrogen and Oxygen and CO2 for example needs the two oxygen to float around awhile rather than dropping straight to the ground.
So, I wonder, even though threatened with a hanging and having cigarette butts dumped in my driveway for my Letters to the Editor, and, one guy tried to steal my decades of work, when are the Man-Made Global Warming Alarmists going to hang it up and start doing some research?
Paul Pierett

Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
February 12, 2018 5:53 pm

C. Paul Pierett, that seemed awfully random. I didn’t understand much of it. Were you threatened with Gerald “cigarette” Butts for expounding on the Unbearable Lightness of Helium? Were you toasting with Molotov cocktails in Havana? Did someone hijack your web site?

tomwys1
February 11, 2018 8:32 pm

Amazing how Canadians fret about “Global Warming.” Guess this winter wasn’t cold enough?

Billy
Reply to  tomwys1
February 11, 2018 8:59 pm

Canadians are so against the oil industry but still want to have their gasoline and air travel. Justin especially.
He is proud of having spent most of his time flying first class to more than 100 countries.

Doug in Calgary
Reply to  Billy
February 12, 2018 12:42 am

Billy, Canadians are not so against the oil industry. The minority that object to it are mostly funded by American interests like the Tides Foundation and the Rockefeller Brothers and, as usual, they drown out the majority with their shrill and vitriolic objections. It also doesn’t help that our Prime Minister has his head firmly entrenched in the rectal cavity of the UN.

John harmsworth
Reply to  tomwys1
February 12, 2018 5:51 am

-33C this morning. Imagine if there was no global warming!

MarkW
Reply to  John harmsworth
February 12, 2018 7:18 am

It’s easy, if you try.

Reply to  John harmsworth
February 12, 2018 7:18 am

Yea it would be nearly -33.9 degrees. We probably couldn’t stand it. It would be just too cold.

Reply to  John harmsworth
February 12, 2018 10:09 am

Imagine there’s no global warming
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the warmunists
Living for today… Aha-ah…

Another Ian
February 11, 2018 8:35 pm

Ought to be some prize responses over at SDA!

drednicolson
February 11, 2018 8:43 pm

This is why the smart diplomats wait until the war is over. Taking the middle ground just gets you shot at by all sides.

Ross
February 11, 2018 8:51 pm

The only thing that drives Trudeau is his Narcissism. Every prouncement he makes is as if he practises in front of the mirrors wall..to..wall at the re..modelled 23 Sussex Drive [Canada’s Prime Minister’s residence]. If you don’t believe me, just watch every video and look at every published pic.

Ross
February 11, 2018 8:51 pm

The only thing that drives Trudeau is his Narcissism. Every prouncement he makes is as if he practises in front of the mirrors wall..to..wall at the re..modelled 23 Sussex Drive [Canada’s Prime Minister’s residence]. If you don’t believe me, just watch every video and look at every published pic.

commieBob
Reply to  Ross
February 11, 2018 10:49 pm

He doesn’t live at his official residence at 24 Sussex Drive. It is falling down and requires huge renovations that no Prime Minister has had the guts to pay for because of the potential political backlash.
Trudeau lives in Rideau Cottage at 1 Sussex.
If you’re going to slam Trudeau, which he richly deserves, you have to get your facts right. Otherwise folks will assume that you’re ignorant and ignore you.

Ross King
Reply to  commieBob
February 11, 2018 11:06 pm

Thanx for yr erudite(???????) reply .
22, 23,24.. Sussex Drive … Everyone except you seems to understand the address to which I am referring. What is yr problem??

Larry D
February 11, 2018 8:54 pm

There is no middle ground, the Greens don’t want energy development, other than their “renewable” scam.

Ross King
February 11, 2018 8:56 pm

Trudeau loves Butts and it is reciprocated?

Ross King
Reply to  Ross King
February 11, 2018 9:06 pm

Is this Scuttle..Butt, Just..in Time.??

February 11, 2018 9:32 pm

The Liberal / NDiP alliance is out to implement UN Agenda 21/2030 the evidence is all over the place in Canada. They are out to damage the economic health of Canada at the expense of the Energy industries. Particularly the oilsands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfMxsrcr1D0&t=5s

Reply to  bradleyx50
February 12, 2018 12:24 pm

Thank God someone on here has the grit to mention this reality. People still call that a conspiracy theory (likely the same people who believe vaccines are safe or effective, or that fluoride is good for you, or GMO is safe. It’s disgusting to see such blind naivety regarding some legitimate conspiracies, but recognition of others (CAGW). AND TO BE CLEAR, the monumental fraud is the same with the previously mentioned examples.
I’ve figured it out, people who want to label everything a theory are looking for the conspirators to come out and say “here, yes, this is exactly what we have planned, are doing, and will implement in the future. Here are our secret plans”
It’s as though if they don’t hear a confession they refuse to assign guilt, even though the money trail, collusive interests, and actions clearly illustrate the reality of what they claim is theory. It’s extremely childish and naive.
I’ve no patience for internal conflict and willful ignorance, especially in adults

Barbara
Reply to  bradleyx50
February 12, 2018 6:26 pm

United Nations Sustainable Development
Rio, June 1992
Agenda 21, 351 pages
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf
People refer to Agenda 21 but how many have seen or read this document?

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
February 12, 2018 7:23 pm

Sustainable Development Knowledge Platform
Agenda 21: UNCED, 1992
Select any item on the menu for later information.
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21

Mick
Reply to  bradleyx50
February 13, 2018 10:26 am

ALL of Canaduh is Hard Left

rogerthesurf
February 11, 2018 9:46 pm

Ah Truedeau “Peoplekind” I think the guy is insane!
How did he get elected?
Cheers
Roger
PS When I lived in Canada, his father was the king. Who can trust a Dynasty? OOPs how many Bush’s did we have in the US Presidency?

Ross King
Reply to  rogerthesurf
February 11, 2018 10:52 pm

rogerthesurf .. he got elected by the morons who believe in form over substance. It annoys me that the Canadian electorate does not require to pre..qualify for the Right to Vote ….. a simple Q’aire (Y/N) as to Current Affairs, nationally ….. and internationally so far as Canada’s interests are concerned.

Mick
Reply to  Ross King
February 13, 2018 10:28 am

It was those that wanted legal pot. Otherwise non voters actually voted for drugs. Keep the IQ low. It helps socialism

Art
Reply to  rogerthesurf
February 12, 2018 12:02 am

He got elected exactly the same way Obama did – he’s a rock star politician with the unwavering support of the mainstream media who ignore all his many gaffes. Except peoplekind. Politically correct positions, good looks, nice hair, charisma and swooning women will win over substance every time.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Art
February 12, 2018 2:46 am

Maybe not next time.

Trebla
Reply to  Art
February 12, 2018 4:53 am

Bring back Steven Harper, otherwise we’ll be saying “Sorry, eh?” For the rest of our lives.

Sun Spot
Reply to  Art
February 12, 2018 9:52 am

Trudope has great hair, sort of like Trump. Great hair wins elections and a drama teacher like Trudope knows how to work the audience with his sickly sweat concern act for every social ill imaginable, that’s an act he’s perfected.

Bill
Reply to  Art
February 12, 2018 10:10 am

hopefully so will old age and treachery………

drednicolson
Reply to  rogerthesurf
February 12, 2018 8:29 am

How many Clintons? Thankfully only one.
How many Gores? Thankfully zero.

Sommer
Reply to  rogerthesurf
February 12, 2018 6:50 pm

Vivian Krause has done great work in exposing U.S. funding sources used to get him elected.
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/
Here’s another article on the the “war on Canadian oil”.
http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/vivian-krause-new-u-s-funding-for-the-war-on-canadian-oil

Alan Tomalty
February 11, 2018 10:19 pm

The Liberal party wins most elections at the federal level in Canada because young people grow up liberal
always thinking that the world is so unfair and they want to change it. The Liberal party makes sure that it leans left to catch all these young voters who havent yet changed to a conservative way of thinking. The Liberal party doesnt lean too far left or they would collide with the NDP who are even farther left. When the liberals make that mistake then they vote split with the NDP and that gives a chance for the Conservatives to win. However throughout most of Canadas history the liberals have not made that mistake and they have claimed the middle. However when you claim the middle you really satisfy no one because almost everybody is to 1 side of the spectrum or the other even if just a little bit. However at voting time voters have to pick the platform they like best and the party holding the middle usually wins. In the US there is no middle party. That is why politics is so polarized in the US. However changing demographics always favours the conservatives because as we age we realize the mistakes of our youth and are less reckless. So with an aging population the Conservatives will come roaring back after Justin has made too many mistakes. Even his father was hounded out of office eventually.

Ross King
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
February 11, 2018 10:33 pm

Agree completely …….
We shd have a pre..qualifying process to earn the right to vote.
Ross

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Ross King
February 12, 2018 12:07 am

“qualifying process to earn the right to vote.”? how silly.
Voting is just a less bloody way to let people know you are the stronger if a fight ensued.
That’s why it was invented in so called democracies where all free men would fight aside and had the same military worth, and that’s why women, slaves, stranger and men too young to fight didn’t have it.
The question is, if a real fight (with weapon and death) ensued, who would win?
You don’t earn the right to vote. You prove with your weapons and willingness to fight that your will is worthy of consideration, then, and only then, you agree to set aside your weapon provided what you want has as fair a chance to happen as it would if a battle occurred.

Reply to  Ross King
February 12, 2018 6:55 am

Ross King. And guess who would be blocked from voting! Imagine it in the USA – the Deplorables were almost disenfranchised as it is.

MarkW
Reply to  Ross King
February 12, 2018 7:21 am

Increase the voting age, and require proof of being a net taxpayer.

Sun Spot
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
February 12, 2018 9:56 am

Alan T., I’m more inclined to see the lock the Liberal Party has on Quebec and if a Quebec-er is in the running for PM the whole province votes as a block for their own little racist French man. That’s why historically the vast majority of PM’s are from Quebec

February 11, 2018 10:33 pm

You would imagine that all Canadians would be looking forward to the Global Warming and doing all they could to bring it on! Instead, they warm up with self-flagellation.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  ntesdorf
February 11, 2018 11:45 pm

I am not surprised that people accustomed to a cold Canada don’t want it hotter. Habits are a very strong urge. If people are told change will happens no matter what, they just grump and adapt; if they are told it is the product of a pollution that can be averted, at someone else (the polluter)expense, they want it to.
Propaganda WORKS, you know?
Besides, what do you think will happen to Tuareg people if the Sahara was turned green? They would change beyond recognition.

Sun Spot
Reply to  ntesdorf
February 12, 2018 9:58 am

Count me as a “Canadians (that) would be looking forward to the Global Warming “, if only it was actually happening.

Enthalpy
February 11, 2018 11:20 pm

The man the boy and the donkey. This story never ends well

Ross King
February 11, 2018 11:28 pm

Amen!! The ” True Believers” in ANthropogenic Warming want the rest of us to believe that Renewable Energy Sources (wind and solar) can replicate Conventional (Coal, Nuclear) power..supply 24/7/52, 99% of the time.
Sorry …… ain’t so. Look at the S. Australiank experience of blackouts.

Art
February 12, 2018 12:18 am

Alberta, our biggest oil producing province, made the mistake of electing the NDP socialists who are dead set opposed to fossil fuels. They are following Aussie’s lead in shutting down coal fired electrical generation, to be replaced with 100% renewables. They’ve implemented a carbon tax and policies aimed at discouraging the use of fossil fuels by making them too expensive, and getting people to switch to non-fossil alternatives….which don’t exist. Yeah, it’s illogical but that’s the lefty mindset.
At the same time they follow the lefty tradition of ramping up spending and borrowing…which opened their eyes to the fact that they desperately need income, and the province’s primary source is,,,,oil. So we’re treated to the spectacle of anti-oil, anti-pipeline socialists fighting for pipelines to tidewater so they can sell more oil.
Meanwhile our oh-so-politically-correct environmentalist Prime Minister says all the right things (according to the left) about fighting climate change, transforming to a post-fossil economy out of the left side of his mouth, while saying the pipeline (which is federal jurisdiction) will go through out of the right side. But that’s all he does. He could take action and enforce his authority but he just sits on his hands. I predicted years ago that there would never be another major oil pipeline built in Canada to tidewater. I still stand by that prediction.

February 12, 2018 12:42 am

Trudeau shouldn’t be taken seriously:

February 12, 2018 1:03 am

Let’s see
Acid rain, no goog
Climate warming. no good
Climate change, no good
Renewable energy, not to good 300 billions euros a year for 4 years not good. They are spending 1.2 billions to construct a Trans-Adriatique gas pipeline.
Weather bombshell, it’s our fault
Give it a rest, I have no money left and I don’t want to freeze in the dark.

Trebla
Reply to  Serge Wistaff
February 12, 2018 4:58 am

Meanwhile, what goes around comes around. Quebec was fierce in its opposition to the Energy East pipeline that would have paved the way for Canada’s export of oil sands crude. The province got a taste of its own medicine when New Hampshire blocked the export of electricity to Massachusetts.

Davis
Reply to  Trebla
February 12, 2018 7:55 am

Import foreign oil, sell military vehicles to foreign country, built in Quebec and Ontario. Follow the money.

knr
February 12, 2018 1:21 am

Trudeau trying to appease the greens with anything but unquestioning support, has found out the hard why this NEVER WORKS. There are no deals with fanatics, you are either with them or against them. Step one foot from the ‘path of righteousness ‘ and their attack dogs will be on you.

John harmsworth
Reply to  knr
February 12, 2018 6:03 am

Bingo! X10

Sun Spot
Reply to  knr
February 12, 2018 10:00 am

A drama teacher like Trudope has no concept the history of the failed strategy of appeasement.

Ed Zuiderwijk
February 12, 2018 1:43 am

A bit like speaking Franglais. It neither Toronto nor Quebec be.

Crispin in Waterloo
February 12, 2018 2:38 am

John Horgan’s big pitch on the CNC was that Canada should stop exporting raw oil products. If the diluted bitumen was not pumped across BC, he claimed somewhat deviously, the pipeline expansion would not have raised their concerns. Of course his greenie pressure friends are calling for ‘no pipelines at all’, because they are getting funds from US groups trying to make it as difficult as possible for China to get oil from Canada by hiring rent-a-mobs and sending the eco-colonists onto the reservations to ‘save’ the ‘environment’. Chinese companies are major owners of the Oil Sands Project. Canada took their money and now blocks their exports.
Forced to export Alberta oil south to the US for half value, the US benefits at the gas pump from the fact the oil is stranded inland. Blocking pipelines to the Texas coast means it has to go by Warren Buffet’s trains.
It reminds us of the good ol’ days when the Robber Barons screwed the entire population out of jobs and money to enrich themselves selling the commons. BC, with an economy completely dependent of selling natural resources, would clear cut the province to sell wood chips to Japan but a pipeline? Horgan guaranteed they would leak – all of them – so with oil being an unnatural product and all, pipelines would only be allowed if they contained refined gasoline.
Trudeau can’t solve this because he can’t bend with the wind in both directions at once. He would need, like the US and China, a strategy and a plan for achieving it’s goals.