Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Former Vice President Al Gore is upset that President Trump has not proven receptive to receiving Gore’s famous scientific “expertise” on climate change.
Al Gore: ‘I tried my best’ but Trump can’t be educated on climate change
At UN climate talks in Bonn, Gore is heading an unofficial group trying to stop climate change – in the face of scepticism from Trump administration officials
Al Gore has accused Donald Trump of surrounding himself “with the absolute worst of climate deniers” and said he has given up attempting to persuade the president to reverse his dismantling of policies combatting global warming.
However, both Gore, the former US vice-president, and Jerry Brown, governor of California, told the Guardian they were confident the US will regain its leadership position on climate change if Trump is defeated in the next presidential election.
Gore, Brown and Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York, are heading a broad coalition of climate change hawks from US states, cities and businesses in Bonn, where UN climate talks are being held. This alliance is in sharp contrast to the official US delegation, which is representing the only national government in the world that doesn’t want to be part of the Paris climate accords.
“I haven’t had any conversations with [Trump] since his speech to withdraw from Paris. I tried my best and thought he’d come to his senses but I’ve been proven wrong,” Gore, who met with Trump during the transition to try to influence his thinking, told the Guardian. “I don’t feel I have the ability to change his mind. He’s surrounded himself with the absolute worst of climate deniers who seem to have captured his mind on the issue.”
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Brown also said he sees little point attempting to sway the Trump administration. “The official policy of the US is that climate change is a total and complete hoax conceived by Chinese conspirators,” the California governor told the Guardian. “That is so preposterous that engagement on that basis is just useless.”
However, the California governor said mid-term elections in the US next year may pressure Trump to change position. “He’s an action orientated person, not a politician, so who knows,” he said.
“Ultimately we won’t have a denier in the White House forever. We are engaged in a great political struggle between the deniers who want to turn the world over to fossil fuel interests and scientists and concerned activists who want to see decarbonization.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/10/al-gore-donald-trump-climate-change
The climate rent seekers behind Gore and Brown are quite obviously hoping to endure the Trump Presidency. Rent seeking is what they do, they have no plan B.
If we don’t save our kids from climate brainwashing, get green propaganda out of schools, and keep up the pressure on climate scientists to produce evidence to support their wild alarmist claims, Gore and Brown might yet prove to be justified in their optimism.
In my opinion we have one chance to get this right, or risk losing generations of our children to climate servitude.
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Can someone please try to convince Al Gore that subjective levels of confidence are not objective.
Al Gore can’t be educated on how science works.
Impossible to educate that pompous scumbag coward.
The creep did his climate publicity stunt in one of my parks that I was responsible for.His people kept me away from the park while he pushed his lies at the Water intake for the City water treatment plant. There was a pump there that I was supposed to check daily since it was having problems.
I got within 200 feet,before I was blocked.
I despise the man.
Let’s modify this articles headline ALGORE: President Trump can’t be indoctrinated on climate change.
Once again, let me restate the title:
“Al Gore: President Trump Can’t be indoctrinated on Climate Change”.
Sorry Bill, I should refresh the text more often. Seems we think identically.
Pop Piasa
perhaps it should be changed to:
‘Al Gore, the failed presidential candidate, has a go at the successful presidential candidate, in an attempt to bolster his failing rhetoric exemplified by his bombed 2017 movie, and his increasingly desperate rantings on climate change to support his carbon credit investments, having failed as a tobacco farmer when public opinion on that went south’.
A bit long you think?
The Economist, April 5, 2001
Kyoto Protocol commentary and a bit of history.
‘Oh no Kyoto’
“For the United States, the deal was done by Vice-President Al Gore …”
More at:
http://economist.com/node/561509
AL GORE
‘Climate Leadership’
Re: History of Global Climate movement.
“For more than 40 years, former Vice President Al Gore has been at the forefront of the movement to solve the global climate crisis.”
More at:
http://www.algore.com/about/the-climate-crisis
All the markings of a D student in science, which of course he failed and was given a D so the teacher would not have to put up up with him again.
Maybe wading in and calling everyone “denierz” did not help with his chances of convincing anyone he was making an objective scientific case.
Maybe Gore’s problem is that Trump IS educated.
Harvard University Library
Archived papers: Maurice F. Strong
‘Maurice F. Strong Papers, 1948 – 2000: Guide’
Strong papers acquired from residences at: Lost Lake, Ontario and Crestone, Colorado.
http://oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/delivery/~env00004
Harvard University Library
Re: Maurice Strong papers: 1948-2000
Try:
http://oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/deliver/~env00004
Harvard University Lamont Library Collections
‘Maurice F. Strong Papers, Secretary-General of the UN Conference on the Human Environment and the 1992 Earth Summit’
http://www.hcl.harvard.edu/libraries/lamont/collections/environment
And more.
For the Canadian audience
BP-317E
The Rio Earth Summit 1992
Re: Maurice Strong & Canadian participation
November 1992, Rio 1992 Earth Summit Conference Summary, Document Text.
http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/bp317-e.htm
Journal of the Group of 77 (No.2-1998)
United Nations Foundation
Re: UNF and Better World Fund (BWF)
Board included:
Ted Turner
Maurice Strong
Timothy Wirth
And others
http://g77.org/nc/journal/2-98/8.htm
Global Leadership for Climate Action (GLCA)
CLCA members include:
Kim Campbell
Jose Maria Figueres
George Soros
Ted Turner
Tim Wirth
And others
Another network?
http://www.globalactionnow.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=53
Can’t convince stupid. Mr. Gentleman C average from Yale. that means monied stupidity.
Mr Gore is dumb like a fox.
We can only hope that his settled science dogma collapses under him and subjects him to a credibility freefall.
Please allow me to repeat my Algorhyme:
Pinwheels and Mirrors
A long time ago (in the 80’s or so),
Al Gore warned that warming would soon be alarming;
“Our children won’t know what it’s like to see snow!
Our atmosphere we must stop harming!”
He’d studied, in college, on James Hansen’s knowledge.
Then, over years of political careers,
He pondered this notion: The atmosphere and oceans
Are useful to raise public fears.
He made presentations to all the world’s nations.
His film (sci-fi trash) was a box office smash!
Academy sensation! Oscars, nominations
And copious currents of cash!
Then unto him fell the Peace Prize, Nobel…
Authority, on him was now vested.
(Debates he must quell, for he knows quite well:
Models failed when reality tested.)
So, grew the meme of anthropogenic extreme.
While insiders profited highly,
Those who objected were quickly subjected
To ridicule (and regarded vilely).
Pinwheels and mirrors now litter the lands…
Power lines, mile after mile.
On high plains, sea cliffs and desert sands
Our vistas, they now beguile.
But, collectors of government subsidies
Find them a beautiful sight,
These mechanical menaces… begging a breeze
Or a sunbeam to make their cost right.
Decades upcoming threaten cold’s icy numbing-
Nature’s cycles, in concert, are waning.
The slowness to warm should have cancelled alarm,
But Al never ceases campaigning:
“We humans are bad, with our fossil fuel fad,
It’s a fast-building carbon disaster!
And now it’s two-fold! It’s causing the cold
And the hotness to come so much faster!”
Yet, while he’s pleading that all should be heeding
His carbon reduction ambitions,
He hopes you’re not seeing his own footprint being
Hundreds of poor folks’ emissions.
Let’s hope he’s thought out, while jetting about,
The messages of his actions.
By far they outweigh any words he might say,
In the minds of the wiser factions.
Pop Piasa
lacks only a slight cadence.
Otherwise, perfect.
al-Gore went to Harvard. You can always tell a Harvard man. You just can’tell him much
When a failed politician meets a successful businessman, there is only one possible outcome.
Good stuff, Pop . . Thanks
“Mr Gore is dumb like a fox.”
That is seriously insulting to a quite smart and adatable animal.
It is amazing any one wants to listen to Algore on anything science related. Basically lazy in school with little talent in science, this WaPo article says it all.
“…received that sophomore D in Natural Sciences 6 (Man’s Place in Nature) and then got a C+ in Natural Sciences 118 his senior year. The self-proclaimed inventor of the Internet avoided all courses in mathematics and logic throughout college…
“When John Davis, a retired teacher and assistant headmaster at St. Albans, was recently shown [Gore’s CEEB] achievement test scores, he inspected them closely with a magnifier and shook his head, chuckling quietly at the science results.
“488! Terrible” Davis declared upon inspecting the future vice president’s …score… in physics.”
The weather is going to take care of this problem, and soon, all on its own. They were able to keep up the illusion of “global warming” and “hide the decline” as long as El Nino stuck around–but now we’re entering the 30-year cooling cycle and the more the actual observations contradict the models, and the more it becomes apparent the narrative is full of shit, the less they are going to be able to foist this off on the public, who except for that 3% sliver of the upper middle class are NOT engaged with this issue at ALL.
The precious blue-bubble dwellers who’ve adopted this as a secular religion are ignored by people who actually set foot outside and see for themselves. For those of you who worry about scholastic indoctrination, one question: How much of the crap YOU learned in high school do you still believe? Uh-huh!
Climate Action Reserve, Los Angeles, Calif.
Advisory Board includes: Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell, Canada
http://www.climateactionreserve.org/about-us/board-of-directors
CA.Gov, 11-13-2017
COP23, Bonn, Germany
Re: Climate Action Reserve & Gov. Brown
More at:
https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php
……..”in a great political struggle”
well, he got that part right
…about the only part he’s gotten right……millions of degrees
Gore’s emphasis is more religious than political, and more political than scientific.
Education on climate change? Al Gore could learn a few things. Trump has the facts on his side.
How to Discuss Global Warming with a “Climate Alarmist.” Scientific Talking Points to Win the Debate.
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/how-to-discuss-global-warming-with-a-climate-alarmist-scientific-talking-points-to-win-the-debate/
What Big Al is saying is that President Donald Trump is immune to blatant anti-science propaganda pap.
My initial thought too.
Which is exactly why the people elected him. The Narrative has been exposed as the smoke and mirrors machine it is. Thank you, Toto! for pulling aside the curtain!
Fat Albert’s comments about Trump reluctance to buy what is is selling made me like Trump even more.
Edwin
I wasn’t convinced of Trump as president, any more than I was Hilary.
But boy, am I ever pleased to be proven wrong.
The only politician of a western nation in my living memory who has actually stuck to his election manifesto promises, as far as possible, and implemented positive change within a year of coming to office.
I maintain that any decision is better than no decision. And in the best possible way, Trump is proving me right. He’s cutting a swath through global politics that’s shaking them all out their complacent little bubbles.
He’s getting all the crappy stuff out the way early and will deliver the really positive stuff in the run up to his re election. And providing he’s not somehow scuppered, I suspect his campaign for re election might be a landslide like no other.
Even the world-wide economy is going gangbusters. MWGA!
Bannon’s predicting 400 electoral college votes!
We all know Gore’s best is about as valuable as Weinstein’s chasity pledge.
I think Gore got rolled. Trump listened politely to him, noticed what an ignorant yahoo Gore is, and decided to not disagree with him to his face.
Tom
I think he told Gore to fork off to his face. Then smiled, and politely showed him the door. So Gore came out swinging with his new movie to exact revenge, and bombed.
HeHeHe…..How sad, what a shame, never mind.
I saw the interview with Gore after he met with Trump before the inauguration, and Gore was acting pleased with the meeting. Which is why I think Trump was not confrontational with him.
Tom Halla
All the more reason to believe Trump told him to fork off.
Although I do get your point, but politicians kiss more babies when their failing.
Alan
A classic.
Al Gore has said and written a lot about climate and the environment.
What has he ever gotten right?
What has he ever admitted he got wrong?
“I tried my best and thought he’d come to his senses but I’ve been proven wrong,”
OK. He admits to being proven wrong about one thing. He thought Trump would suffer fools gladly.
Perhaps Gore meant: “…but I’ve been proven wrong about climate change.”
Gore’s sly and just a bit dishonest like that.
What Gore figured out, and exploits endlessly, is that the Judeo-Christian world is hardwired to believe in apocalyptic scenarios. “For we have shat the Garden, and now Gaia will smite us!” Nothing but recycled Old Testament mythology transparently rewritten for the secular age. BTW, all kinds of schmucks nowadays, from Gwenyth Paltrow and late-night radio supplement hawkers on down, think if they dress their BS up in “science-speak,” they can sell you anything. Unfortunately, it is often so.
The official policy of the US is that climate change is a total and complete hoax conceived by Chinese conspirators,”
So not only is Trump “anti-science” he is racist? I am so sick of leftards and race-baiters (or is that redundant?)
Looking at the situation from international perspective:
Political party identifying themselves ‘progressive’ lose presidential election to someone they deplore. And, unless a mistake from my part, they’ve also lost in senate and congress.
On this swampy foundation their visible beacons Gore, Brown and Bloomberg have decided to fight their domestic opposition battle in the international field. Affirming their unwillingness to accept election results and advertising their personal antipathies and general ambitions unpopular among the US electorate. Now, which head of state has, does or will welcome their own opposition to any UN arena at all, let alone in this manner? I bet Merkel won’t.
And observing Gore’s, Brown’s and Bloomberg’s ambitions, it gets worse. They are fighting for policies Nixon launched decades ago.
R Nixon: http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/richard-nixon-the-environmentalist-resigned-38-years-ago-today-14776
For this reason in my opinion, Gore’s, Brown’s and Bloomberg’s actions are entertaining. Don’t know if Nixon set a trap for these ‘progressives’, but they surely decided to spring one with their own head.
Moonbeam certainly knows that is not the “official” policy of the US; that the Chinese “hoax” line came from a joke at a press conference.
The policy of the US, oft articulated by DJT, is to not commit the US to a one sided deal where the US pays alot for little or nothing in return.
Love how the newsies manage to get “Official Policy of the U.S.” out of a pre-Presidential “tweet.” Sad!
Al Gore can’t be educated on climate change. Gore frequently speaks about the need to reduce the global population, Gore has 4 kids, no adoptions, no multiple births. Gore frequently speaks about the need to live a low carbon lifestyle, Gore has 4 or more properties and flies frequently for business and pleasure.
Obviously Al Gore can’t be educated on climate change.
If Gore now admits he was wrong about Trump, does that mean he might eventually realize and admit he was wrong about CAGW, or is that just asking to much from the great Goracle?
““The official policy of the US is that climate change is a total and complete hoax conceived by Chinese conspirators,…”
Uh, no.
Worse, If Brown is defining a policy not his own, he’s probably not getting it right.
But it hopefully the policy is more like “The official policy of the US is that climate change being primarily caused by human CO2 emissions is a total and complete fabrication conceived by radical environmentalists, journalists, and certain politicians.”
No one who has lived any appreciable time on Earth would deny climate change. Perhaps Gore is referring to the prophecy of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, or its Politically Convenient cousin: Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Climate Change.
No one who has lived any appreciable time on Earth has seen a definitive refutation of the null hypothesis regarding climate change, “nn”.
Next…
” I tried my best and thought, but I’ve been proven wrong,”
There, fixed it.
For Gore’s knowledge, processes characterized in isolation cannot be reasonably extrapolated to cause effects in the wild, let alone in a complex system such as our Earth. Our super computers lack sufficient diversity (i.e. bits), and the models are poor hypotheses of what is clearly an insufficiently characterized system.
“You can’t teach a concept to a person whose salary (and egotistic existence) depends on them not understanding it. – Upton Sinclair.
We are battling a trillion dollar industry whose existence relies on perpetuating the “BIG LIE”.
Brad: +97, exactly.
Algorebull$hit has a lot in common with a certain farm animal!!!
Let me guess. Is it the pig?
ThomasJK
Nope, the rare Manbearpig.
A sex craved poodle? Guard the sheep!
“educated”
Does anyone remember this?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/us/politics/24gore.html
Another pass for the liberal elites. And he wants us to believe in AGW?
It should be apparent to anyone who understands science that former V P. Gore and Gov. Brown are peddling religion and not science.
If I understand science correctly, there is no assumption of the existence of infallibility in science and an understanding that questions should always be asked in the face of a theory of hypothesis like CAGW when it is presented. Gore’s and Brown’s behavior demonstrates the peddling of religion here because they tell us that action on climate change is required. The underlying assumption of infallibility in that rhetoric is not hard to see. Never mind that the sensitivity of the Earth’s climate to the GHGE of CO2 is still very much an open issue. Also never mind that humanity’s contribution to the CO2 level in the atmosphere is also still an open issue. Don’t ask about these questions, just have faith.
This whole circus could begin fizzling out sooner if the Trump administration would take the offense here and present the scientific evidence that pokes holes in CAGW to the American people and the world. If EPA administrator Scott Pruitt has a team for the Red team-Blue Team debate ready to go, I wish he would begin putting it to use. Let the alarmists assemble their own damn team to debate the other side.
If Gore’s hopes for U.S. 2020 elections and U.S. position change in the CAGW issue are to be proven false, we still have plenty of time to ensure that this will happen. The Earth’s climate may indeed start cooling between now and then, but we should not assume that this (by itself) will cause the CAGW Holy Faith to die out without some additional help.
CD in Wisconsin
I don’t think Trump is remotely distracted by climate change, as much as we on WUWT imagine he may be.
His focus seems to be to get America back to work. Anything else, including climate change, is a mere distraction.
Good for him, drive a truck though the worlds posturing, political angst, and get them back to the reality of life.
Red-Blue teams only work when both sides respect each other’s opinion. That’s certainly not the current situation. Playing that card now would only initiate a long series of arguments and counter arguments and you know which side the MSM would trumpet.
Instead of a Red-Blue team exercise aimed at the complex science (which the public does not have the background to understand) the administration should use surrogates to poke fun (using Alinsky’s ridicule method) at some of the more outrageous CAGW claims as they occur. (E.g. show Miami Beach streets underwater in 1917 as soon as Al does another photo op there.)
So Trump needs to be re-elected in 2020. And the RINO congress needs to be cleansed in 2018, and not by Demorats, rather by Deplorables. Then Gore and Brown will have no hope and nowhere to hide, and justice will be finally served.
Meanwhile, Mueller is finding no Trump/Russia connections, but plenty of Hillary/Russian connections like the GPS dossier and Uranium 1. What does Mueller then do? Go after Manafort concerning Ukraine stuff years before Trump announced his candidacy, and probably next Flynn concerning NATO member Turkey.
In the most positive way, Trump seems to have groomed himself and his family for this period in time. None of them are drunks, druggies, sexual predators (other than inconsequential accusations about Trump himself which seemed to have tailed off) or cheats and liars.
Compare that to the UK’s royal family, replete with cheats, liars, questionable sexual ambiguity, stupidity, gullibility, and of course unearned excessive privilege.
Guess who I would rather have running the UK?
Whenever did the Royal Family run the UK?
Before the Glorious Revolution (1688?)
Tom
Thank you, saved me doing it. However they have exerted considerable influence ever since, at least until more recently.
Hillary’s so up to her eyeballs in Uranium One she has a particular glow about her.
When the crimes and corruption of the other 2016 presidential candidate becomes evident and fully exposed, people will realize that the USA narrowly averted a serious national disaster had that other candidate won the 2016 election. None of the other Republican candidates, had one of them been the party nominee, had the courage and conviction to pull out of Paris, and hopefully defund the formerly C-AGW, now CC acolytes sucking up taxpayer money.
At some point, people will then realize and accept that our nation has been saved from disaster by one man. Not this pope, but some future pope might be compelled to elevate America’s savior to sainthood.
Sainthood like Joan of Arc?
Maybe St Stephen?
I hope he will be an icon of how the private sector makes our system superior to socialism, despite the onslaught of media attacks (which are disturbingly similar to character attacks on the rest of the opponents of present political solutions to the current non-problem of a 0.75C global temperature rise since 1880).
If Al Gore believes that Trump cannot be taught (about ‘Climate Change’) then perhaps he should consider the possibility that he is a really,really bad teacher – in addition to being on the wrong side of the facts about climate.
As much as I prefer to not get a pounding headache from Algore’s psychobabbling, I would very much like a clearly stated proposal from directly responding to the following question: How in the blinking blue-eyed does he expect to stop a natural event from happening?
His intention seems to border on saying “we can stop volcanoes from erupting”.
I agree with those who see him scrambling to keep his place, when in fact, it appears that this is the end of it for him and several other people who wallow in a denial of reality. He seems to be exactly the kind of person who would accept Lysenkoism as the way to run agriculture.
I sincerely hope that this entire scramble is an indication that the crazypants stuff is slowly eroding away and common sense and stability will return us to the “norm” – whatever that is.
Sara,
I can commiserate….. but you cannot expect to have a rational conversation with an irrational person.
His rationality is not as much in question as his motivation.
It has never occurred to manbearpig that the President is the intelligent one and he should listen to the President.
stephana
manbearpig is deluded into believing he is the US president.
It seems to be a common malady afflicting all losing Democrats.