Guest essay by Eric Worrall
IMF head Christine Lagarde suggested we’re all in big trouble if we don’t address climate change, while speaking at a conference in Saudi Arabia.
‘We will be toasted, roasted and grilled’: IMF chief sounds climate change warning
Christine Lagarde warns of ‘dark future’ if the world fails to take steps to address global warming
The world will be in deep trouble if it fails to tackle climate change and inequality, IMF managing director Christine Lagarde has warned.
“If we don’t address these issues… we will be moving to a dark future” in 50 years, she told a major economic conference in the Saudi capital Riyadh on Tuesday.
Lagarde said that “we will be toasted, roasted and grilled” if the world fails to take “critical decisions” on climate change.
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In a statement following her visit, Lagarde praised Saudi reform efforts and moves to address the economic effects of persistently low oil prices.
“Saudi Arabia is also undertaking reforms to reduce constraints to women entering the workforce,” Lagarde said in the statement, pointing to a recent decision to allow women to drive.
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Just in case you missed Lagarde’s speech in Riyadh and the October climate conference in Rome, there might still time to book a seat at the November UNFCCC climate conference in Germany, to be hosted by the Fijian government. No doubt in November you will also have an opportunity to buy Fijian sovereign climate bonds.
Lagarde is just one, though high in the food chain, of the bureaucrats whose “life styles of the rich and famous” (sorry Robin) depend on fear mongering so to keep her money flowing at acceptable rates. Other than the money fueling the vanities of her own life (sorry Falò delle vanità, and Tom Wolfe) she has no concern of any living creature or any concept or idea of human thought.
Lagarde is so removed from the simple life of ordinary creatures such as human beings that she has not a scintilla of the conceptualization of … “cooking”!
If she knew about “cooking” she would have used the phrase, whether French or Swahili for that matter, “Grilled, Roasted and Toasted”!
Microwave ovens just do not do that!
Hahahahahahahahaha
And with a fine timing Mörner et al. have published a new survey in Fiji showing there is no evidence that sea levels are rising, let alone accelerating.
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/fear-not-for-fiji/
It is a shame to see so many commenters deviating from the subject to indulge their right wing conspiratorial fantasies. Dictators both left and right, as well as libertarians seek to concentrate wealth and power, intentionally or not. But that’s beside the point. Stick to the science if you want more leftists like me on your side.
All Available science shows that CACA is for sh!t.
Bill. Which science goes with “Toasted, Roasted, and Grilled”?
“so many commenters deviating from the subject to indulge their right wing conspiratorial fantasies”
That’s pretty funny when the IMF is a (suppose)right wing organization…., I think you are the one in fantasy land. This is not about the left and right… it “IS” about the science or more about a lunatic in a high place who doesn’t know anything about the science.
Oh, I’m a lefty by the way so stop your virtue signalling to other lunatics !!!
I could not give a crap about you being on my side.
According to some communists that I have debated, there is pure communism, and everything else is right wing.
Bill Bracey
Jeez, you ought to think more rationally.
AGW has been stated as the opportunity for global wealth distribution on many occasions by individuals like Christiana Figueres. http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally
Para 3.
The last time something similar was tried, Russia and China murdered millions of their citizens, but the wealthy remained wealthy. It is, of course, continuing with Cuba and N. Korea, amongst others, but you conveniently ignore all that in your ideological blindness, whilst in search of your planetary utopia.
Man is a tribal creature, get used to it. The best way to a largely peaceful planet is through free trade, that’s how we got here, everything you have is thanks to Capitalism, not socialism.
Under capitalism, the person who is best able to cooperate with his fellows will get rich.
Under socialism, the person with the most political power gets rich.
Bill, recognizing reality is not fantasy.
BTW, there is no such thing as a libertarian dictator.
Bill Bracey, First you need to demonstrate to us that this conflict is about science.
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.”
— Alexander King, 1991. Co-founder of The Club of Rome,
The First Global Revolution, Published by The Club of Rome
Pantheon Books (New York) edition, p.115
Where is the science in “coming up with the idea” to deceive with contrived scare stories?
The only way to make a step forward on the subject of climate effects of CO2, is to take advantage of the opportunity provided by Trump in pulling the life support plug from the Paris Accord which wasn’t really going to do anything useful in reducing CO2 emissions. Doing nothing. Carrying on with fossil fuels as usual, is the only way to step back and see what happens.
We may have considered this a reckless choice in the 1990s. BUT, after almost two decades of a PAUSE interrupted by the recent strong El Nino, observations showing that theory projected warming that was three times observed values, the ENSO at threshold La Nina, cold SH oceans and decline of multidecadal oscillations, the probability of a cool stretch of a several decades that will bring back the Pause is likely. This would connect up with, and extend the interrupted Pause (decline?). Moreover the unexpectedly high positive benefits to the biosphere and crop harvests of growing CO2 availability and moderate warming (14% more global forest cover and doubling of crop production on the same acreage) makes, let’s call it the catchy name – “The Great Climate Experiment” a low risk definitive test toward falsification of alarm science. I hope the term catches on! Oh there will be campaigns against this one!
The PAUSE signifies nothing as a statistical population does not underlie the model. Absent this statistical population, “alarm science” is not falsifiable!
If it stretches out for a couple of decades more with CO2 rising, it is indeed very significant. It means that “projections” of business as usual then become 4and 5times too hot and, for all intents and purposes it makes natural variation king. So Terry, tell me 1)how long the pause must be to be significant and 2) Why all the fuss over the pause in the climate command centres if its ho hum. It caused the affliction of a fair number of cliSci by the “climate blues” who haven’t been heard of since.
You also know the “stats” have been fiddled mercilessly. Hansen pushed the 30s-40s period down over 1C to make 1998 a new high. These were USA temps, but since, we’ve learned the same patterns existed in Canada, Greenland, Geneva, Capetown S. Africa, Paraguay, etc. essentially validating the world temp pattern was well represented in the US data before adjustment.
This means the real pause extends back to the 1930s.
Terry Oldberg
“The PAUSE signifies nothing as a statistical population does not underlie the model.”
At least you concede there has been a PAUSE.
It’s a start.
HotScot commented –
“At least you concede there has been a PAUSE.”
What pause?
How does it compare to past “pauses?”
Like this , crackhead. Lots of PAUSE..
ONLY El Nino warming… NOTHING to do with CO2.
Lagarde’s position on climate change is pseudoscientific. This does not bode well for her influence on monetary policy!
First of all, you can only toast bread. And to roast or grill anything with the back radiation of the sky, you might need manbearpigs help for that.
I found this:
“The International Monetary Fund threw its support behind its leader, Christine Lagarde, on Monday despite her conviction in a French court on charges of misusing public funds.”
Also, I could find no record whatsoever of any educational achievements that entitle her to speak authoritatively about Climate Science.
Yet another poseuese and dilettante using what influence she has on the World stage to peddle Value-Signalling garbage aimed at self-promotion among her friends in high places …. nothing more.
Madam, you are a sham and a disgrace. Stick to your knitting … you have no qualifications to spout about what you know nothing about.
But, but, but she was on the French national synchronized swimming team even if she did fail to get into ENA to join the elite ranks of the énarques.
When The Revolution comes (and come it will) the heads of the Ancien Regime will roll, as they did in the French Revolution. Put Lagarde in the tumbrils, along with Gore, Mann, Jones and gang, Obama, Pachauri, and the rest of the disseminators of unproven Science as if it were Proven and Settled.
P.S. Add the authors of the egregious 97% report … they should go first under the guillotine.
This woman should be in jail. She is Europe’s version of Hillary Clinton. “International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde has been convicted over her role in a controversial €400m (£355m) payment to a businessman.
French judges found Ms Lagarde guilty of negligence for failing to challenge the state arbitration payout to the friend of former French President Nicolas Sarkozy.”
Yes, if there’s any toasting, roasting or grilling going on it should be for Madame Lagarde’s role in that scandal.
So why isn’t she behind bars? Oh….different rules for the ‘high and mighty’ then? Just like some others I can think of…
Her crime is a qualification for the job. It’s standard procedure these days.
Climate change has been going on for eons. It is caused by the sun and the oceans over which Mankind has no control. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rational to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. If CO2 really affected climate then one would expect that the increase in CO2 over the past 30 years would have caused at least a measureable increase in the dry lapse rate in the troposphere but that has not happened. The AGW conjecture is based on only partial science and is full of holes. The AGW conjecture is based upon a radiant greenhouse effect that has not been observed on Earth or anywhere in the solar system. The radiant greenhouse effect is sicence fiction hence the AGW conjecture is sceince fiction as well. Mankind does not have the power to stop Mother Nature from gradually changeing the climate as she has done for eons.
Who was the idiot who appointed Christine Lagarde as head of the IMF. The IMF is an organisation which has done untold damage to the Third World and wrecked dozens of economies with faulty or malevolent advice. Maurice Strong was one of the leading forces of darkness and evil in the IMF in the 1970’s and we know the damage that he has done on.Earth.
I wonder If there is “Facilitation Fee” (aka ‘kickback’) from the beneficiaries of these GlobalWealthTranfers to those arranging the Transfers? The Cynic inside me suggests ‘Following the Money’ and that none of this Global Wealth Transfer is anything other than a fraud on the Average tax..paying Joes upon whose shoulders these Transfers are funded.
Nota bene that the jet..setting lifestyles of promoters of the AGW myth like Lagarde and the egregious Gore doesn’t come cheap.
Wealth Distribution is just Orwellian for Poverty Distribution.
Sounds a lot like ex Sierra Club President Aaron Mair on Climate Change at a Senate hearing stating that:
“Our planet is cooking, and heating up, and warming”
She must have been listening…
You can find it on Youtube: Ted Cruz vs Sierra club…
Ted Cruz made mincemeat of Aaron Mair on that occasion IIRC.
Women have never been outstanding chefs de cuisine. May Auguste Escoffier haunt her for such a nonsense.
IMF is just another arm of the EuroMafia. The scandals and corruption are rife and well documented, but no one loses their jobs.
If Lagarde is out there fighting ‘climate change’ you can be sure she’s been told to do exactly that, and it’s not about climate, it’s about money.
Things are really hotting up on the Future Prospects of the Petro Dollar. Climate Change particularly the AGW CO2 Narrative is clung to with religious zeal and promoted by Finance Elites, why is that?
China are rolling out the Petro Yuan, backed by gold.
http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2017/10/chinas-rise-americas-fall/
The IMF wish to cling to the Petro Dollar hegemon this is best done by having the Carbon Based Dollar.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2014/04/roger-lewis-guitarist-at-lilagatubandet.html
Gold had much religious significance in early civilisations, it was spread in foundations of the Delphi Temple, for instance, connecting a monetary commodity to a religious cult is nothing new.
http://theconquestofdough.weebly.com/the-ingredients-of-political-economy.html
Heres where the CARBON CULT GETS INTERESTING.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2011/09/leconomista-mascherato-is-carbon.html
The little-discussed Brant Plan and various post-2008 Crash Central Bank position papers show what guides Legardes public comments. Climate Politics is wrapped up in Debt based money politics and the basis of Capitalism Expect an uptick in CLimate Propaganda the Banks really can not afford to let the Absurd narrative go.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2017/09/propaganda-why-silly-stuff-works-just.html
Looks to me as though she’s fond of a bit of global warming….
small wonder, since gw is happening…..
Even in case it should happen, then there is still no reason to worry. Mankind has mastered many much more inconvenient incidents just by adapting to reality, which I actually miss as far as you are concerned.
And thank goodness for a warming climate. The “start point” you use is the Little Ice Age, a cold period defined by crop failure, famine, disease and death. Only a fool sees today’s climate as “bad.”
The world is warming, it’s just that CO2 is only a tiny part of that warming.
Typical that a politician spouts off on ‘global warming’, because the entire construct is indeed political. The scientific case for catastrophe collapsed years ago and it’s only her type who keep the gravy train on the track. Not surprising when she and her pals all hold a ticket to ride.
red – does co2 not absorb IR?
or does the earth not
emit it?
Might do, but not 0.04% – jerk.
Yes it does, but the many negative feedbacks ensure that the end impact is minimal.
Yes, as does water vapor and a host of other gases.
crackpot troll crackers345 .
Why don’t you look around where ever you hide and go out side in the country side and observe the effect of how clouds aka water vapor controls the temperature . The clouds block and reflect the suns rays back into space and the temperature below them is cooler and the land below them warms less than on a cloudless sky
When the sun goes down a lack of clouds let the heat rise into the atmosphere .Desserts are hot in the day time as there is no water vapor to reflect the suns rays but cold at night as the heat escapes into the clear sky with no moisture to trap the rising heat
What does CO2 do ?
Supposedly reflect heat back towards the ground that was heading away .
Water vapor in the atmosphere can reach 4% at some places around the world .The poles have very little water vapor but snow fall comes from water and there is plenty of snow in Antarctica .
CO2 has increased in the atmosphere from .03% to .04% and any heating effect is logarithmic so water vapor has smothered any detectable signal of CO2 induced warming .
The theory of CO2 rely s on feed backs and the feed backs rely on the tropical hot spot which has not been found .
I know we should not feed you but you argue so much rubbish that some people visiting this site might be taken in by your ranting .
Arrgggh!
crackers345 – SHE’S BACK !!
She add’s nothing to the debate, trolls incessantly and wanders off topic to deliberately wind others up.
The sensible response will be to ignore her. I recommend this course of action for the next week at least.
There are sufficient pro AGW debaters already here for “practice”. We do not need any more and frankly this one is quite nuts.
Is it the alarmist’s devil in disguise or just a lost soul that loves ranting and wailing, incapable of positive thinking like: Warmer Is Better?
Atmospheric CO2 increase is ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN for MANY years to come. 🙂
PLANTS LOVE CO2 🙂
Or Senator Susan Collins…
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/10/25/politics/susan-collins-ignoring-climate-change-is-simply-not-a-solution/
Empty barrel? Automaton perhaps?
Surely a bot would have more than 1K of RAM — Cracksherd must be human. . .?. Nah !!
But it keeps on with the same old questions, ignoring bucket loads of answers.
Notice how “inequality” was part of her narrative as her life threatening…alarmism? More attacking the rich to help the poor. People who think that rich people are greedy and fail to see the hypocrisy of how greedy poor people think they are owed something from the rich for nothing. As well as people that think other rich people should give more to those poorer people, when they themselves are richer than most of the poor people they are implying. Politicians that think just because someone has more than most people that they should give more of what they have to create equality, are usually people that have high incomes and portfolios in the millions and you don’t see them giving their wealth away to live like a begger on the street.
In an attempt to show both more warming, and to insert a fabricated, and continuous rise in temperature, the Climatists have fiddled and bastardized the temperature record. Getting tid of the MWP was just the beginning. What actual warming there has been was completely normal, and may be ending. The Pause is just one clue. We may be in for an extended period of cooling beginning in 2019 rivalling or even exceeding the LIA. The Climate Liars have things backwards in the extreme, which is dangerous for mankind.
@Bruce Cobb: Thanks for this video. I’m not a scientist, but I have to say this is one of the best videos I’ve seen yet that explains why the warmist alarmists should be challenged and debated. The material was presented in a way that was was easy for me as a non-scientist (but with a college degree in computer science) to understand, as it should be for a lot of people.
If we indeed are headed into a natural cooling cycle despite the CO2 level rise we’ve seen, and it starts rearing its ugly head by the end of this decade, the alarmists are going to be red-faced and will have some explaining to do. I hope will be still be around by then to see what they have to say.
As a Wisconsinite, spending my winters in Arizona is looking increasingly attractive.
Well, if that happens, Bruce, it will all be your fault for even mentioning it, because you didn’t ask the Them! first for permission.
“If you invite someone over for dinner and they start talking about global warming/climate change, count your silverware before they leave”.
As it continues to get colder, the alarmists might wish they had some of that warming back.
Getting colder? The solution is just to say it’s local (as if that matters somehow—humans live locally and local is pretty much all that counts) or to say it’s actually warmer and people are mistaken, etc. Lying and misrepresenting are never bothered by reality. The marketing of the lies may take a hit, though.
They will only be able to keep up the sham for so long though. They’ve been pushing the “extreme weather” gambit for quite a while now anyway, and that’s wearing thin. The end is nigh.
Where I live the climate changes four times a year. It is called Spring, Summer, Autumn, and Winter. .