Guest opinion: Dr. Tim Ball
We will see an increasing number of people changing their positions on global warming as the global warming ship sinks. It will take various forms including; articles appearing that subtly shift previously held positions; reevaluation of data; or finding new evidence that allows a change and perhaps worst of all those who say they knew the science was wrong all along but did not consider it important to speak out; dredging up a sentence or two from their writings that they claim showed they knew. The level of inventiveness will astonish as rats desert the sinking ship.
I am not well disposed to any of these people since the evidence was there all along. They chose not to see it, for a variety of reasons none of which are valid and as the old proverb says there are none so blind as those who will not see. I admit I hold some animosity to this group as I head to Vancouver for my first of two trials [although I received three lawsuits all from the same lawyer and all from members of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)] trial for speaking out against the misuse of science for a political agenda and the scientific deception and corruption this engendered. When I realize that if even a few of these people had spoken out I would likely not have suffered the lawsuits, personal attacks, death threats and career limiting denial of funding, loss of speaking opportunities, and having my wife cry now if someone knocks on my door at four on a Friday afternoon because that is the time that all three court summons were delivered. The timing was deliberate as I only had 48 hours to respond.
I am glad Mr. McCarter finally saw the light as expressed in his article “Naïve scientists awakens to the politics underlying climate change”, but it is too late, too easy and self-serving. It is precisely his ‘I don’t want to know attitude’ that the perpetrators of the global warming deception knew would happen and exploited. What he doesn’t know is that the three Strategic Lawsuits against Public Participation (SLAPP) I received were not only to silence me but also to have a much wider chilling effect against anyone else who dared to speak out. It was very effective because of the silence of so many who didn’t want to know. There is safety in numbers, but a majority chose to say and do nothing. I know first-hand what Voltaire meant when he said
“It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong.”
Or for my fellow Canadian
Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort.
Why didn’t McCarter act when the emails were leaked from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) providing clear evidence that it was more than politics but included the abuse of science by scientists? Here is a list of the activities set out by Mosher and Fuller.
· Actively worked to evade (Steve) Mcintyre’s Freedom of Information requests, deleting emails, documents, and even climate data
· Tried to corrupt the peer-review principles that are the mainstay of modern science, reviewing each other’s’ work, sabotaging efforts of opponents trying to publish their own work, and threatening editors of journals who didn’t bow to their demands
· Changed the shape of their own data in materials shown to politicians charged with changing the shape of our world, ‘hiding the decline’ that showed their data could not be trusted.
Even if only half these charges are true, they are activities that would and should have triggered McCarter to action. It appears they did not, so the question is how much more did he need? How are things any different now that causes McCarter to respond? The apparent answer is that there are no consequences and he will be praised for his enlightenment and forgiven for his failures. Sorry, it is far too late, inadequate, and unworthy of praise. How much damage has occurred because of decisions he made to ignore the problems.
Massive amounts of damage have already occurred. People, economies, and societies have already suffered enormously. He watched as others suffered attacks, lawsuits, and bullying and did nothing. As Edmund Burke said, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” I think that the fact they did nothing eliminates them from being called good men. McCarter apologizes for Naomi Klein as a fellow Canadian, but where was he when she was appointed to Pope Francis’ committee on global warming helping him to draft the Laudate Si Encyclical? As he admits, he knew there were problems but rationalized they were political, and as a scientist, he could ignore them. He made a conscious decision to look the other way; now he wants absolution and even praises after a perfunctory mea culpa.
It is easy now as the tide is turning because Trump had the courage to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement. It is easy to jump on “the deception shouldn’t have happened” bandwagon. I can’t tell you how many people felt they were supporting me by telling me privately they agreed with me. Presumably, this absolved their conscience, but when the opportunity to speak arose at least 95 percent of them were nowhere to be seen. I used to try and understand that people did not want to lose their jobs or their income, but I don’t anymore because it is precisely this weakness that makes them vulnerable to bullies and exploiters. McCarter, by his own admission, hasn’t learned much. “So having had doubt about climate change being a political rather than scientific problem I am now a bit wiser.” Only a bit? If he had taken even a limited quiet look at what was going on, he would be a lot wiser. If he spoke out even minimally at the start, he would have experienced the push back and learned how political and nasty the attacks. He chose not to do that, and now he wants absolution for that failure. Sorry, it is too late unless he offers more than hand waving.
No, I cannot accept McCarter’s pathetic apology now it is easy. He admits in this article he knew all along but decided to do nothing. If I hear of him doing more than making an apology on friendly websites like WUWT, I will maybe temper my view. If he tries to get published in the NYT, I will have some sympathy. When I hear that his grandson was made to stand in the hallway outside his Grade six class every day for most of a month because he dared to ask questions about global warming that challenged what his teacher was saying and she knew I was his grandfather.
The only thing I can do here is quote Lutheran Pastor Martin Niemoller.
First, they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Ogden Nash wrote,
There are people who are very resourceful
At being remorseful.
And who apparently feel that the best away to make friends
Is to do something terrible then make amends.
It was a child who pointed out that the emperor had no clothes because the adults were afraid to say anything. McCarter’s story indicates that this continues and will do so until people accept the social responsibility that comes with having the privilege to practice science or do anything in society. He should read about what is happening in his Canada as the government deliberately intimidates people and moves to make alternative climate views a crime. Let him publicly fight that and earn a modicum of credibility, until then his ‘coming out’ is too little too late. For those who think his actions are sufficient as a step in the right direction I will disagree.
Yes, it is a form of penance, the “voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong.” However, it is completely out of proportion to the extent of the damage his failure to act created. It indicates that he still doesn’t understand.
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My thoughts are with you and your family Dr. Ball.
My daughter suffered persecution from the head teacher at a prominent British grammar school because I encouraged her to question everything she was told. It went on for about a year. The head teacher and a complicit member of her staff no longer work there.
Thankfully, despite that and a serious undiagnosed medical condition, she achieved a 2:1 in Zoology and is currently embarking on a Masters degree in the subject.
I trust, as she did, your grandson has learned of the tyranny of petty minded, bureaucratic establishments.
Wish more parents encouraged their kids to question everything,
I hope your daughter does well.
1saveenergy
Thanks mate. The trouble is, she questions me as well…….!!!! 🙂
Another excellent article by Tim Ball. Thank you Tim.
Tim wrote:
“The level of inventiveness will astonish as rats desert the sinking ship.”
I had similar thoughts, and wrote this in 2012:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/25/bethlehem-and-the-rat-hole-problem/#comment-1182610
I was searching for some famous quotations about rats, but only found one, which coincidentally was about rats finding a way out:
When the water reaches the upper level, follow the rats.
– Claude Swanson (1862 – 1939)
I found many more about aristocrats, bureaucrats and democrats. Oh well, close enough:
You get fifteen democrats in a room, and you get twenty opinions.
– Senator Patrick Leahy (1940 – ), May 1990
Bureaucrats write memoranda both because they appear to be busy when they are writing and because the memos, once written, immediately become proof that they were busy.
– Charles Peters
The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that the Democrats allow the poor to be corrupt, too.
– Oscar Levant (1906 – 1972)
Art forms of the past were really considered elitist. Bach did not compose for the masses, neither did Beethoven. It was always for patrons, aristocrats, and royalty. Now we have a sort of democratic version of that, which is to say that the audience is so splintered in its interests.
– David Cronenberg, Rocketboom, 07-19-06
I am from a state that raises corn and cotton and cockleburs and Democrats, and frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. I am from Missouri. You have got to show me.
– William Duncan Vandiver, US Congressman, speech at 1899 naval banquet
The legacy of Democrats and Republicans approaches: Libertarianism by bankruptcy.
– Nick Nuessle, 1992
Most managers were trained to be the thing they most despise — bureaucrats.
– Alvin Toffler
This is exactly how wicked endeavours can flourish. Martin Luther King had another quote, We shall have to repent in this generation, not so much for the evil deeds of the wicked people but for the appalling silence of the righteous people.
+10 . I did a rewrite of the “I have a dream” speech about 3 years ago about AGW on a blog somewhere, can’t find it right now but maybe someone here saw it?
Don’t get lax because it looks like truth has won. The philosophy behind “global warming” is the same as that of communism and other we-know-better, anti-liberty, anti-truth totalitarian elitism. The philosophy will never die; it will only change its spots.
So, those of you who have copies of original data sets, please make more copies and store them in safe, separate places.
CACA has never been about science, but political control.
Dr. Ball is obviously very bitter – he has a right to be! Hopefully more people like him will finally have the courage (Gonads) to stand up and let the truth be heard. From a fellow Canadian.
YESSSS !! time to grow a (big) pair. We need some serious numbers in academia to not just pop their heads over the parapet but stand on the top, wave the flag and shout flippin’ loudly.
Dr. Ball, good luck in your upcoming legal fight. A donation to your defense fund is on the way.
There is an interesting article in the current “British Archaeology” magazine by Chris Stringer of the Natural History, acknowledged now to be one of the leading researchers in human evolution .
But it was not always so .
As a PhD student he spent months going around Europe measuring Neanderthal skulls , in the pre – PC era, and came up with the conclusion that Neanderthals were not ancestors of Homo Sapiens , but cousins (although a little “incest” has left a legacy of about 4% Neanderthal DNA in most of us who are “Out of Africa”) . This was so contrary to accepted dogma of the time that , as he says , for 10 years it was difficult to publish . Papers were “booted out” at peer review and it was a struggle to get these alternative views acknowledged . Nevertheless he persevered and eventually won the argument .
There was of course only academic self esteem involved , not the murderous financial complication introduced by the renewable energy megaliths , but it takes perseverance and courage to stand up for what you believe in in many academic fields and Dr Ball is to be admired.
Dr. Ball, one of my regrets in this life as I come towards the end is that I never had the opportunity to meet you in person and shake your hand. (and have a beer with you perhaps)
To control a population you have to create a problem. Those in power don’t like (hate) Freedom. That’s why they create central banks and direct taxation.
I totally agree. It’s a very bad strategy to beat up on people who are moving in the right direction. It’s not going to encourage others to “come out” either. Why should they get bashed both by the people on the side they’re they are leaving and by people on this side too?
If we’re going to act like this, we’re no better than the progressives with their zeal for the “purity” of their ideological commitments. And as bad as many of the trolls that infest the Internet.
Oops. This was supposed to be after the markl October 15, 2017 at 3:13 pm post below.
Shame on you Dr. Ball. Your bitter pill is misdirected. Mr. McCarter’s mea culpa clearly said he is a convert, wasn’t attempting to hide anything in the past, and should be applauded. It’s what we need. How many people have admitted to being converted from a skeptic to an alarmist? I know this is personal for you but please don’t let it sully your outstanding work.
Mark
Gosh, that’s very nice of you to say all that about Dr Ball & Mr McCarter.
Then again, your 6th grad grandchild wasn’t attacked for what you thought.
Feel better now?
I’m reminded of the prodigal son’s brother in the parable, who resentfully asked why they were throwing a welcome-home party for the deadbeat black sheep of the family.
Those who must choose between an empty stomach or an empty soul deserve empathy, not disdain when they choose the option we consider “wrong”.
I agree with you, markl. If you’re going to attack someone, attack those who continue to support lies and propaganda, not those who have finally seen the light and have now come over to your side. What purpose does such vengeance serve, other than to drive them away?
Off Topic:
Question for Tim Ball or others:
This link on Dr. Ball’s website:
http://drtimball.com/2015/thanks-to-ipcc-public-doesnt-know-water-vapor-is-most-important-greenhouse-gas/
seems to be hacked, leading to
http://www.ignitioncasinopromotions.eu/...
You should probably run a malware checker on your computer.
Thanks! I doubted your advice, but after checking, I discovered that the link works on Safari and Firefox on my Mac, and on Chrome on my wife’s Mac, but NOT on Chrome on my own Mac. Thanks. I continue to investigate.
Tim, is one of the cases to be heard in BC involve ‘the Weaver’ that I posted on my site a while ago?
https://notonmywatch.com/?p=1227
Regardless, anll the bset and “go git ’em”.
Yes, that’s the guy. He was an IPCC author on four of their Reports, 1995, 2001, 2007,and 2013.he is now the leader of the Grenn Party in British Columbia and a member of the Provincial Legislature. He was also very influential in policy before that as a member of the Provincial Climate Action Committee and helped write the Policy document known as the Climate Action Plan that introduces Agenda 21 at the municipal level.
This was a great article by Dr. Tim. While I agree with everything he said, I have a slightly different option on the “political” motive behind the Climate Doomers actions. In my opinion they are after massive amounts of money that is there for them. Similarly to their leader Al Gore, it’s the billions of dollars that makes them behave in this ugly manner.
“Just for the money” doesn’t explain why the UN/IPCC started the whole AGW scare unless you mean their intent is to bankrupt Capitalism so Socialism can take over. Individuals may be in it for the money but the prime driver is the downfall of Capitalism. The UN has stated as such and why more people don’t believe it is a mystery.
True, but the mainly Third World membership of the UN was in it for reparations dough, and of course the sc@msters themselves, like Hansen, have personally and professionally made out like bandits off the ho@x. Ditto the greedy Green Machine money-grubbing parasites.
markl October 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm
“Just for the money” doesn’t explain why the UN/IPCC started the whole AGW scare
It is not just money. It is all about the the implementation of the New World Order. Al Gore would see himself as one of the Elite who will be running the world. Mann would see himself as one who is favoured by the Elite and be given an important position.
+1
Dear Dr. Ball,
It is very unwise to harshly criticize people beginning to step forward. They were afraid for their families. Welcome them. They will add to a rising chorus of truth which, once it reaches critical mass, will overwhelm the lies of the truly evil men who are behind this fraud. The damn is starting leak.
DON’T EXPECT RECOGNITION FOR YOUR FIGHT AND SACRIFICES!!!
The best case scenario is that in 5 to 7 years most people will have forgotten they ever believed in global warming due to the burning of fossil fuels. Very likely there be a new manufactured crisis which they will believe in.
Crises are needed to control the masses, Joel. There is no end.
Joel
How comforting your words must be to Dr Ball.
Probably would mean a little more comping from someone who stood up for him when the Canadian state was banging on his door, or his grandchild was made to stand in the hall.
If they are not made to suffer for their sins, they will just go back to cowering when the next sc@m rolls through.
“…worst of all those who say they knew the science was wrong all along but did not consider it important to speak out;”
For my part, the grubbiest will be those who claim that they relied on scientists for their beliefs. You would lose count of politicians with that response already prepared. Of course the challenge then is for them to explain why their choice of “scientists” was so selective.
“For my part, the grubbiest will be those who claim that they relied on scientists for their beliefs.”
True, and the grubbiest might be able to sidestep culpability by pointing to the Climate Scientists(tm). But the people who should be really worried as the house of cards collapses are the Climate Scientists. This is the consequence of holding yourself as a qualified expert and being held in responsible charge, a term that engineers are familiar with. Climate Scientists will have no one to blame but themselves. There is nowhere they can point their shaking fingers except their own mirrors.
I think Dr. Ball is being way too optimistic. There was a point at which I thought I could detect the tide turning but I was wrong. Over the years there has been a continuous stream of papers nibbling at the edges of CAGW but I don’t think we’re seeing the beginning of a deluge.
There’s evidence that ‘science advances one funeral at a time’. link
Certainly Ancel Keys had everyone convinced that fat is evil. link Until he died, research saying that sugar might be the culprit was hard to get published. Climate science is remarkably similar.
At this point I think it is an act of courage for any scientist to come out against CAGW.
Unfortunately, most of the people dying are skeptics.
Nah. Retired come out of the closet.
I am nobody from nowhere land and I knew this was a scam from the early 90’s. I am not a climate scientist or any sort of scientist. I can remember when Larson A ice shelf broke off about 1993 and my colleagues thought we would all die in a few days and I just laughed at them. My biggest joke was telling them I could go to Lapstone Beach if sea levels rose. I lived in the Blue Mountains at the time.
This is the point when you are not in the field nobody listens to your skepticism. “Evil abounds when good people do nothing” is not 100% true for this reason. I found WUWT after the Email scandal but before that I would regularly go to CO2Science. When you are Nobody from Nowhere Land no one listens and that is even true here on WUWT.
I listened
🙂
Quote,
Science represents mankind’s deepest aspirations—aspirations to power, to wealth, to the satisfaction of sheer animal lust. The cornerstone of modern science is the scientific method. Scientists first formulate hypotheses, or predictions, about nature. Then they perform experiments to test their hypotheses. There are two forms of scientific method, the inductive method and the deductive method:
INDUCTIVE METHOD
formulate hypothesis
apply for grant
perform experiments or gather data to test hypothesis
alter data to fit hypothesis
publish
DEDUCTIVE METHOD
formulate hypothesis
apply for grant
perform experiments or gather data to test hypothesis
revise hypothesis to fit data
backdate revised hypothesis
~from the book “Science Made Stupid” by Tom Weller [1985]
This should be called the Harvey Weinstein effect, where people either suddenly regain their memory and point out their opposition all along to an evil, even if their opposition was invisible to the naked eye or else rely on the Sargent Schulz defence, where they claim “I know nothing”.
I always referred to the “I know nothing” defence as the Barcelona technique.
Particularly in light of our esteemed leaders name.
C K ??
The Harvey Weinstein effect – a good analogy. Only now is it safe for people to speak out against the odious Weinstein, but it is not yet safe to speak out against global warming alarmism.
There is ample evidence that the sensitivity of climate to increasing atmospheric CO2 is very low – and thus catastrophic manmade global warming (CAGW) is a false crisis. Global warming alarmism is a fictional fabrication and it is the greatest embezzlement, in dollar terms, in human history. I suggest that most academics who possess even average intellect know this my now, just as most screen actors knew about Weinstein and his casting couch.
The majority of academics have not spoken out against global warming alarmism for obvious reasons:
1. They know they can get grants if they support CAGW, and NO grants if they oppose it.
2. They know that if they openly oppose CAGW, they will be ostracized by their peers and may be fired by their institutions.
3. Many academics lean to the political left, because it is socially fashionable and because they are insulated from the economic destructiveness of leftist politics.
4. Global warming alarmism is the new “front” for economic Marxists, who were discredited after the fall of the Soviet Union circa 1990
Ref. Dr. Patrick Moore, “Hard Choices for the Environmental Movement”, 1994, “The Rise of Eco-Extremism”
http://www.ecosense.me/index.php/key-environmental-issues/10-key-environmental-issues/208-key-environmental-issues-4
5. Academics as a group are not particularly courageous or principled – it is safer for them to do and say nothing that would threaten their comfortable existence.
Regards, Allan
Austrian Election Results for Green Party:
2013: 582,657 votes, 12.4% of the vote – 24 seats won
2017: 141,959 votes, 3.3% of the vote – 0 seats won* (4% threshold to get seats)
*preliminary results.
Nice. 🙂
Austrians are waking up……… I wish Australians would. !
The comments supporting Tim are all good and likely somewhat of a boost to his confidence in succeeding in this case against what are likely the world’s worst scoundrels. However, I believe that if we really want to support Tim, we should “speak with our pocket books.” I believe that at least one commenter has already stated that he/she is going to do this.
Once I determine how (are you listening Tim), I too will throw a few quid into the hat. Anyone else going to join me?
The side bar under Skeptics lists ‘Dr Tim Ball” go to http://drtimball.com/donate/
Just put in my $200. Have had the pleasure of hearing Tim speak many years ago. Was fascinated them, still am now.
While at his website, take a look around, consider buying a few of his books and distributing them as Christmas presents.
Thank you. I’m on my way over.
Anyone else?
What a difference a thread makes. Why only the other day I was being lectured here by Larry Kummer about how I should give due respect to the serious scientists Gavin Schmidt and Zeke Hausfather.
You respect ’em Larry – not me.
Comic irony. Neither renewable nor sustainable and less “green” every day.
Could someone tell me who “Mr. McCarter” is? I keep coming up with an architect.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/14/naive-scientist-awakens-to-the-politics-underlying-climate-change/
Thank you. But that didn’t answer my question.
I don’t think that anyone here has ever stated his CV. His name and that he presumably lives in or near Vancouver, BC, is all that most of us know of him. Our host IDs him as a “scientist”.
Well, if Robert McCarter is his real name, it is surprising that his name doesn’t come up on top of a Google hit list.
Appeal to authority measured by google hits excluding SkS?
You may try this: https://www.googlefight.com/robert+mccarter-vs-reallyskeptical.php
I’m glad you wrote this. I got pretty worked up reading McCarter’s apology but you articulated what I was feeling so much better.
The evidence of the deception has been there for a while. Admitting ignorance and shifting the blame to a dislike of politics is not an excuse. It just demonstrates how right Kuhn was and how modern scientists ignore his advice at the peril of the entire endeavor.
Or endeavour, if you like. There, I extended an olive branch.