Al Gore Warns Global Warming Could ‘Increase The Flows Of Refugees’ From Africa

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4:05 PM 07/25/2017

While on a whirlwind media tour to promote his new film, former Vice President Al Gore claimed that global warming would create millions of refugees fleeing more intense and frequent extreme weather events.

ThinkProgress editor Joe Romm asked Gore in a Monday interview what humanity needed to do to deal with “the potential for tens of millions of refugees” from global warming.

Gore suggested the number could be higher before giving the following answer:

The Max Planck Institute and others are now saying that some significant regions of the Middle East and North Africa may become uninhabitable because of the rise in both the temperature and humidity. And that will increase the flows of refugees. Africa by mid-century will have more people than either China or India, and by the end of the century more people than India and China combined. And subsistence agriculture is being hit harder than any other vital system in our civilization, because of the timing of the rainfalls, the concentration and timing of the big [extreme weather] events, and the problems of drought. Right now, the U.N. has warned of the worst humanitarian disaster since 1945: 20 million people on the verge of famine. So, we’re going to have to prepare for it, and that means insulating our structures of governance against the kind of disruption that we have seen in some European countries.

The Brexit vote was partly affected by this. The most powerful billboard was one showing endless lines of swarthy-looking refugees on the border of Europe. This is a major, major challenge. Just as the next six or eight months are going to be particularly challenging for American democracy, the next several decades are going to be a test of the character and courage for humanity.

Gore paints a dire picture of humanity’s future without drastic changes to the global economy — namely, a shift away from fossil fuels. However, Gore’s claim is just that: a claim.

A recent study predicted that as many as 2 billion people could become “climate refugees” by the end of the century, due to rising sea levels. Most famously, the United Nations Environment Programme quietly removed a web page claiming that 50 million “climate refugees” would exist by 2010. The UN pushed its prediction to 2020.

Gore spoke with ThinkProgress as part of a media tour to promote his new film, “An Inconvenient Sequel.” It’s the follow-up to his 2006 film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” that has been widely credited with sparking the global warming movement.

While Gore’s first film enjoyed widespread acclaim, it was riddled with failed predictions. The Daily Caller News Foundation reviewed Gore’s 2006 film last year to see how well the predictions fared — they didn’t do well.

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richard
July 26, 2017 12:06 am

Same old same old-
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Greg
Reply to  richard
July 26, 2017 1:24 am

Funny how we’ve always got that ten years to act. Every ten years we get a new window.

Jones
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 3:18 am

Always in motion is the future…….

Jones
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 3:43 am


Including that of grant cash…..

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 7:24 am

Sometimes far less than ten years: “We have 50 days to save the world”
That was back in 2009.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 12:56 pm

That’s why they always pitch to kids and young adults – they don’t remember the LAST time they told us this bulls***.

TheRick
Reply to  richard
July 26, 2017 7:05 am

Hey Al, and monkeys will fly out of my butt (however not for 10yrs)

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  TheRick
July 26, 2017 7:12 am

I thought the Left wanted more refugees to keep up their voting base.

Reply to  richard
July 26, 2017 12:14 pm

Do you think we will see a mea culpa from Gore once the science actually is settled? Based on what I know about the red/blue team approach to climate science being pursued by the current administration, the science will be settled before too long and the conclusions will not be what Gore wants to hear.
Gore is a fool with no understanding of scientific principles and what he says is hardly worth any consideration. The person I would like to see knocked down a peg is Gavin Schmidt, who if he is the scientist he claims to be must accept the consequence of applying the scientific method to the absurdly high sensitivity he accepts without question.

Auto
Reply to  co2isnotevil
July 26, 2017 3:06 pm

co2isnotevil
You say
“Gore is a fool with no understanding of scientific principles and what he says is hardly worth any consideration.”
Hmmm . . . . . . . .
Whilst agreeing about the Algoreithm’s seeming lack of understanding of science [how much real, how much, if any, put on for personal enrichment, I do not know], but I suggest that
Al Gore is N O T a fool.
I understand he is seriously wealthy – with a number of [exceedingly well-lit] beach-front properties (Hypocrite did I hear?? Ohhh Surely not!) – and not a few dollars from parlaying politics into profitable plays – possibly prudent CO2 regulation related.
Inheritance(s?) helped, but his own manoeuvrings have not impoverished him.
At all.
As it should be in any Republican presidency.
If I had one one-hundredth of the pelf of our own snow-magnet, Al Gore to the Hundred-and-Fifty-First, I would retire next Monday.
I haven’t, so I won’t.
Auto

knr
July 26, 2017 12:12 am

In case people are worried , St Gore extensive use of private jets means on this tour he is at little risk of having to mixing the ordinary people and deal with hassle of airport check-ins etc.
Now don’t you feel better !

Reply to  knr
July 26, 2017 3:12 am

Gore has been exposed as a self-promoting fraud and charlatan:
Tom Nelson‏ @tan123 Jul 24
Al Gore Can’t Save the Global Warming Cult; The fake science has been exposed | Frontpage Mag https://twitter.com/tan123/status/889451786330832897
Frontpage Excerpt:
The difference between the 2006 Academy Award winner and the updated version is that now volumes of counter-evidence and exposure of the manipulation of climate data make it obvious that catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is a progressive cult-belief and alternative energy boondoggle, not real science…

Kleinefeldmaus
Reply to  knr
July 26, 2017 3:45 am

Nar knr I reckon he is just doing a little publicity stunt for his new film…jus say’n y know.
Here’s my preview belowcomment image?w=640

observa
Reply to  Kleinefeldmaus
July 26, 2017 7:34 am

Out of Africa II by any chance? What with the raining polar bears I guess we have it in black and white now.

ironargonaut
July 26, 2017 12:15 am

What is happening in the next six to eight months in America that is going to challenge democracy and why will it not be happening in 9 months? Does massage Al know something nobody else does?

Reply to  ironargonaut
July 26, 2017 6:19 am

Ah yes, him.. massage Al. Like the movie, I see what you’ve done there, ironA.. you’re speaking of Al (Happy Endings) et al. Some things just get funnier with age and context , for sure.

July 26, 2017 12:18 am

It isnt GW, it is Merkel that is flooding Europe with African refugees.

Greg
Reply to  Matt S
July 26, 2017 1:10 am

No, the flood of refugees is because of the chaos, wars and total anarchy that US foreign policy has created the middle east over the past three decades.

kokoda - the most deplorable
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 3:40 am

Greg………………Very Close. It is the Regime Change practice and the lies of our Gov’t to render small countries into rubble and death, all for humanitarian purposes and install Democracy. What lies.
I wonder how many commenters here know the real reason for Libya and now Syria.
How many of you believe Assad gassed his own people in Ghouta and Khan Shay-Khun?
Gore is more despicable than ever to blame the economic migrants (not refugees) on GW.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 5:57 am

Yo, Greg–you better get a tuition refund from the Liberal university that brainwashed you into believing the most unsubstantiated ideology imaginable (it reminds me of Pravda’s propaganda from the ’80’s!)
Merkel (along with many EU leaders) are welcoming Muslim refugees without even a database to check who they are and why they come.
Interviews with these “refugees” find they’ve got one objective–a peaceful Muslim takeover of Europe.
Your ideology requires that you object to my statement but the facts stand.

Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 6:26 am

The flood of refugees is a created situation.
Barbara Spectre. Just spend a few seconds to search for her, watch the first YouTube video you see.

ferdberple
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 10:36 am

I wonder how many commenters here know the real reason for Libya and now Syria.
≠========
$$$$$. Petrodollars.

July 26, 2017 12:20 am

…. meanwhile,
40-50 cm of fresh snow fell yesterday morning in the French Alpscomment image
while further south the forest fires (fairly common at this time of the year) are blamed on the global warming. Nothing unusual about either.

erastvandoren
Reply to  vukcevic
July 26, 2017 1:09 am

It feels like 7-8°C colder than usual in Europe.

Greg
Reply to  erastvandoren
July 26, 2017 1:13 am

Yes, relatively cool summer in south of France. Hovering around 30 deg C for the last 3 weeks. Typically we’d be getting around 35 for July August. Got over 40 deg C in 2003.

Reply to  erastvandoren
July 26, 2017 6:31 am

The same in Spain, we are well bellow 40 ºC

July 26, 2017 12:27 am

I blame overpopulation and corrupt and despotic governements myself.

Greg
Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
July 26, 2017 1:20 am

Plus the chaos caused when US led “coalitions” decide to play “regime change” to throw out said “despots” without any plan of what will follow . eg Saddam, Ghadaffi , Assad …. do you see any pattern forming there?
Not to mention fermenting the coup d’etat in the Ukraine and then blaming the backlash on Russia like the coup d’etat never happened.

Dave
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 3:37 am

Greg: an excellent comment. The EU are also to blame: remember Baroness Ashworth [Blair`s poodle] and Kerry, so say nothing of Juncker and others` madness about a European army.

Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 6:27 am

Again…
Barbara Spectre.

Jan Christoffersen
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2017 9:42 am

Greg,
“fermenting” ? I didn’t know wine was involved. I think you meant fomenting. I’m going to foment some grapes right now.

Herbert
July 26, 2017 12:30 am

Despite glowing reviews from left wing critics, Gore’s movie, ” An Inconvenient sequel” rates 4.8 out of 10 from viewers on IMDB.
It is instructive to note that two of the worst movies ever filmed ,” Plan 9 from Outer Space” and “Reefer Madness” scored 4.0 and 3.8.
The public has spoken!

Reply to  Herbert
July 26, 2017 1:48 am

I think the inconvenient truth for the hysterical Al Gore is that most of the people now know that all this time he’s been peddling pure bullsh|t:comment image

Mark
Reply to  Herbert
July 26, 2017 1:49 am

How dare you. Sharknado is the definitive worst movie ever. It gets 3.3. But if you get cult-classic amusement out of that sort of thing, try Holiday on the Buses, a genuinely sickening movie. It gets 5.3. If Gore’s film gets less than Holiday on the Buses I am glad to report we of the counter-argument are home and hosed!

Griff
Reply to  Mark
July 26, 2017 3:37 am

Yes! Sharknado is the best movie ever!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Mark
July 26, 2017 5:26 am

“Griff July 26, 2017 at 3:37 am”
There is more truth and science in that film than Al’s.

Griff
Reply to  Mark
July 26, 2017 6:26 am

Well Patrick, nobody, green, left, right or anything else in the UK has ever heard of Gore and we couldn’t care less, frankly…

david smith
Reply to  Mark
July 26, 2017 8:19 am

Griff,
Here in the UK a lot of us have heard of Gore (particularly school teachers like myself). We all think he’s a fool and a peddler of lies.

Reply to  Mark
July 26, 2017 4:04 pm

David Smith,
I thought Griff spoke for all of U.K. and Europe.
Are you a real person?

TA
Reply to  Herbert
July 26, 2017 8:32 am

We need to get that English judge to fact-check Gore’s new movie. He found a lot of errors in Gore’s first movie.

Chris
Reply to  Herbert
July 26, 2017 9:49 am

Rotten Tomatoes is far more widely used than IMDB for movie reviews. It rated 74% on RT, which is quite good. And your point is all the more irrelevant since the movie has not even been released yet. There have been a few private screenings, and screenings for critics, but it does not open in regular theatres until July 28.

climatereason
Editor
July 26, 2017 1:03 am

A major cause of refugee flight is overpopulation with subsequent pressure on facilities and lack of opportunities.
This is something this site does not tend to like to confront as there are always immediate cries of Malthus. However poor countries are different to rich ones with their ability to cope.
As an example, Syria had a bad drought in the 1960’s with a population of some 4 million. The bad drought a few years ago saw the country with a population of 22 million. This sort of increase is replicated in many countries with Nigeria set to hit 400 million in a few decades. It would need the most consistently perfect and stable climate to sustain that sort of population increase and as we all know there has never been such a thing. Result? As population soars even a modest run of bad weather will put enormous strain on a country’s ability to feed itself let alone improve itself to the stage whereby refugees see no need to look elsewhere.
tonyb

MRW
Reply to  climatereason
July 26, 2017 2:34 am

With respect to the continent of Africa, it’s nothing that Ultra Super Critical Coal-Fired and nuclear plants can’t fix. They need reliable electricity, air conditioning, and real water/sanitation infrastructure. Not a bunch of pearl-clutching peace corps types foisting cheapy solar gadgets and insufficient solutions on the ‘natives’ to ‘help them progress’.
The people of Africa don’t want to leave their countries, besides they grew up acclimated to that heat. They want middle-class lives, opportunities for their kids, and access to education.
I remember a native aide worker interviewed by the BBC on public radio a decade ago saying that the ability to read by artificial light after 8 PM would transform his countrymen. He was talking about how the kids were being deprived of basic services and utilities we take for granted here . . . while we listen to arrogants and colonials like Gore mewl about how they perceive CO2 affecting them and their sorry understanding of the dynamics of weather.
The average American housewife wastes more water rinsing her dishes for 10 minutes than what an African woman in some villages spends two hours collecting every day from five miles down the road and carries home on her head.
The Chinese have taken note. They are supplying some African countries with infrastructure loans at 2-3% interest without the collateral theft of a country’s resources as an additional cost. Sure, the Chinese want to develop those commodities in country, but they also want an efficient infrastructure for their business there, and good living conditions for the workers and managerial teams they are sending there from China. The World Bank and IMF, OTOH, just figured out how to steal and enslave.

Griff
Reply to  MRW
July 26, 2017 3:40 am

“I remember a native aide worker interviewed by the BBC on public radio a decade ago saying that the ability to read by artificial light after 8 PM would transform his countrymen.”
and now that is a reality, thanks to the programmes of selling reasonably priced solar LED lighting (with phone chargers).
These replace kerosene lamps – the inefficient, hazardous means of lighting for off grid Africans previously. and since kerosene is expensive and takes up much of a household’s disposable income, it improves their life in more than one way.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MRW
July 26, 2017 6:52 am

“Griff July 26, 2017 at 3:40 am”
They had phone chargers before solar powered lights.

Bruce Ploetz
Reply to  MRW
July 26, 2017 8:21 am

I could just dismiss Al Gore as a has-been politician trying to cash in on his name recognition. I could forgive him for his stupidity and utter disregard for facts. But the way he wants to force the developing countries into endless slavery, and works tirelessly to maintain the status quo, makes it an issue that needs a voice.
Cheap energy, beautiful clean coal, natural gas, universally available reliable electricity – these are what make it possible to emerge from poverty. To make the systems that avoid disastrous droughts and floods. To make it unnecessary to produce 12 children just in the hopes that a few will survive. To make efficient agriculture with transportation systems so famines cannot recur.
The greens and Gore are working tirelessly to prevent these people from emerging into the modern age. Just for his money-grubbing and patronizing self-aggrandizement. This is the moral issue you should be addressing Mr. Gore. Not CO2. Humanity.

LdB
Reply to  MRW
July 26, 2017 9:20 am

Oh I can go to bed all content that we have sent a few LED lights on battery chargers to Africa and it’s transformed their life. They must not recognize the place because life is so much better especially those 3/10 men and 1/2 women that can’t read at all. Even those who can supposedly read is misleading because the level required to say one can read is very low.
So I am delighted to hear the Africans spend the nights reading War and Peace, and the works of Shakespear and all it took was a couple of LED lights.

graphicconception
Reply to  climatereason
July 26, 2017 5:00 am
Reply to  climatereason
July 26, 2017 7:08 am

It has been argued that the population increase in Syria was due to deliberate government policy. It was a parallel to pre-WWII policy in Germany and Japan to justify a lebensraum claim.

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  climatereason
July 26, 2017 7:49 am

climatereason:
“Nigeria set to hit 400 million in a few decades. It would need the most consistently perfect and stable climate to sustain that sort of population increase and as we all know there has never been such a thing.”
Really? The population of Nigeria increased from 38 mill in 1950 to 160 mill in 2010. Four times as many in 60 years. And, obviously, they manged to feed the people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Nigeria

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  Henning Nielsen
July 26, 2017 10:24 am

henning
400 million is an awful lot more people than 38 million. Are you sure they will cope bearing in mind the various areas of conflict within the country causing farmers to flee certain areas?
. Look at the population increase in ethiopia and Iraq and various other countries not as fertile or as wet as (parts) of Nigeria.
tonyb

TA
Reply to  climatereason
July 26, 2017 8:35 am

“A major cause of refugee flight is overpopulation with subsequent pressure on facilities and lack of opportunities.”
Another major cause of refugee flight is the refugees know they will get a big paycheck in Europe. If I were a dirt-poor inhabitant of an African country, I would be heading to Europe, too. Free money is hard to turn down, especially if you don’t have any to begin with.

Editor
July 26, 2017 1:18 am

Exodus of people from Africa and the Middle-East has nothing to do with global warming, it is 100% about the stupidity of the EU leaders for making it happen.

Greg
Reply to  andrewmharding
July 26, 2017 1:22 am

Sure, nothing to do with climate, more do with never knowing whether you will come home if you go to the market to buy food for the day, or whether your house will still be there when get home.

MRW
Reply to  andrewmharding
July 26, 2017 2:38 am

Killing another countrymen’s children and parents has a consequence.

MRW
Reply to  MRW
July 26, 2017 2:43 am

Read: “Donald Trump just kept his most important promise on the Mideast” – Mulshine on Colonel Pat Lang’s site. [I warn you don’t make foolish comments on his site.]
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/07/httpwwwnjcomopinionindexssf201707dont_look_now_but_donald_trump_just_kept_his_mosthtml.html

Reply to  MRW
July 26, 2017 6:29 am

If that were the case, then the refugees would not be primarily from Africa. They would actually be from Syria.

Kleinefeldmaus
Reply to  andrewmharding
July 26, 2017 1:50 pm

+1000

July 26, 2017 1:39 am

Lol as it’s the effin libs and greens that WANT more refugees to flood into their countries.
An excerpt from Andrew Bolt’s article in Australia:

THE Greens are dying at last. But not fast enough and not before causing terrible damage around the world.
In Australia, the Greens have been wounded by their own incompetence, with both deputy leaders — Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters — forced to quit parliament this month for having dual citizenship. But Greens everywhere are also declining, as their global warming scare crumbles and the cost of their obsessions mounts…
THE COST OF THE GREENS
THE Greens have suffered as the cost of their crusades became clear.
When the Greens backed Labor’s scrapping of our tough border laws in 2008, Australians soon saw the price: 50,000 illegal immigrants came and another 1200 drowned.
Now we’re paying another price.
Forcing us to switch to more expensive wind and solar power, as demanded by the Greens to “stop” global warming, has made our electricity about the world’s most expensive. Some poorer Australians cannot now afford electricity and businesses have been sent broke by price rises of up 180 per cent in a year.

Reply to  Eric Simpson
July 26, 2017 2:22 am

More from the above link showing that Al Gore and the Greens are all about letting the refugees and masses of third worlders waltz in:
THE GREENS’ OPEN DOORS
THE Greens’ happy-clappy multiculturalism demands for weak border laws and vilification of the “racist” West was the kind of moral posturing many Australians thought cost nothing.
Now Islamist terrorism makes that posturing seem dangerous.
In a war to defend the West, the Greens seem on the wrong side. They demand we leave our doors wide open and suggest what’s inside is trash hardly worth defending.
From March of the Loons:comment image

Latitude
Reply to  Eric Simpson
July 26, 2017 6:32 am

too funny……after telling how wonderful these illegals are….now Gore is using them as a threat

Reply to  Eric Simpson
July 26, 2017 12:37 pm

Exactly, Latitude. Seems simple but your comment is a very good and concise way of putting it. What total hypocrites and bullsh|tters they are!

July 26, 2017 1:49 am

Shh, the best standup comedian ever, Al, utters something about Africans. Sounds like he’s running for the Rusty Radiator Award next.

Admad
July 26, 2017 1:58 am

Algoreithm should win some kind of prize for recycling. This is another recycled scare, following sea level rise, extreme storms and droughtflood. He is utterly shameless.

Admad
Reply to  Admad
July 26, 2017 2:01 am

nankerphelge
July 26, 2017 2:23 am

Seriously this guy must be committing a Crime.
It must be Fraud or Deceitful conduct at least. He is trying to cajole people into harmful actions. Maybe he is in Contempt of the English Court system?
I don’t quite know under what auspice he should be tested but there must be one. Personally I believe he is a criminal and should be locked up!!

July 26, 2017 2:29 am

The Max Planck Institute and others are now saying that some significant regions of the Middle East and North Africa may become uninhabitable because of the rise in both the temperature and humidity.

How can increased humidity be a problem in an arid and already uninhabitable desert?
And not only that, about 8,000 square kilometres (3,100 sq mi) of the desert is below the sea level. Based on the projections from the same source, it will flood in no time. Imagine an oasis bigger than lake Ontario in Sahara. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression_Project

Editor
July 26, 2017 2:46 am

Africa by mid-century will have more people than either China or India, and by the end of the century more people than India and China combined.

2016 Population
China 1.4 billion
India 1.3 billion
Africa 1.2 billion
Projected growth:
900px-world_population_28un29-svg
Africa could have more people than India and China combined by mid -century.
My question is… When do they start fleeing? A continental mass exodus on a Gorian scale should lead to a decline in Africa’s population. Unless the refugees will be fleeing from one part of Africa to another… In which case, the late Sam Kinnison devised a solution for this, at the time Al Gore invented Gorebal Warming.
Warning: Lots of F-bombs…
https://youtu.be/P0q4o58pKwA

graphicconception
Reply to  David Middleton
July 26, 2017 5:08 am

“Africa could have more people than India and China …”
It is entitled. It is bigger than India and China, and Europe and the Lower 48 and Japan all combined. http://i.imgur.com/DPHhE.gif

Reply to  graphicconception
July 26, 2017 6:32 am

Only if it can support those people on its own. It can’t though.

Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
July 26, 2017 2:49 am

Cause and Effect.
As children we are taught an appalling simplification.
It is that ‘Deserts have crap climates and that is why no/few plants grow in them’
Wrong.
In fact, ‘Deserts have crap climates because there are no plants growing there’
Plants don’t go to deserts for the same simple reason that critters don’t – there’s nothing to eat.
Plants enjoy (need) a very varied diet – not just water and CO2 as many people seem to believe. They need phosphorus, potassium, nitrogen, sodium, iodine, copper just for starters.
Plants did used to grow in what are now deserts but and over millions of years, they basically cleaned the larder out. There is nothing left for them there and hence is why they spurn such places. All the plant-foody stuff that was there is now at the bottom of the ocean, sometimes revealing itself (and being useful again) in upwelling currents.
An because for every atom of carbon in any given plant there is one water molecule, a sizeable forest can be considered as a large lake or small inland sea. Not just the greenery you see but typically 10 timers more buried in the dirt beneath the forest.
Water is always water and particularly when inside glucose, cellulose or lignin structures, takes with it it huge affinity for itself.
So. Why do people like to live beside the sea if not because all that water moderates The Climate.
And so it is with forests or huge grasslands, all that water moderates the climate.
So for an existing desert it goes –
No plant food > no plants > no water storage in the dirt > extremes of annual & diurnal temperature > crap climate > no people/critters/plants > no water retention > crap climate and so on, round & round.
A positive feedback if ever there was.
You break that cycle by importing new plant food. This is precisely what Mother Nature does using Ice Ages.. The glaciers and ice-sheets clear away the tired old dirt and expose/grind up a whole fresh new lot.
They may even be considered as ploughs, creating a whole new rebirth of an old exhausted ‘thing’
Crazy innit.
Mother Nature uses a plough to create new dirt and we use ploughs to destroy the stuff.

Catcracking
Reply to  Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
July 26, 2017 7:07 am

I am not an expert, but I am under the impression that Israel has converted barren desert to productive lands, others can clarify but it is apparently feasible.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
July 26, 2017 7:34 am

Another way to break the cycle is to put a bounty on goats, or otherwise prevent thi destructiveness, as Willis has noted.

Ed Zuiderwijk
July 26, 2017 3:38 am

Al should read the newspapers. Africa is already coming to Europe. It’s economic migration, fortune seeking if you want. The reason is the dismal state of many economies on that continent, not caused by any change in climate but by incompetent and corrupt governments, both directly a result of the tribal mindset. Hence a cultural problem.

July 26, 2017 3:43 am

They wont be fleeing. They will be dying.
What has happened in Africa is a salutary lesson in how not to do cultural integration.
What I am going to say will raise howls of horror in any liberal throats, and plenty of pursed libs in the more right wing of the leadership, and it doesn’t only apply to Africa, but also to the West.
The thesis goes something like this:
If you introduce technology or give away its fruits to uneducated, poor and deserving people, you will end up with even more poor uneducated and deserving people until you reach the point where by sheer force of numbers, poor uneducated and deserving people dominate the political process.
At which point any demagogue who vaguely resembles a poor uneducated deserving person can wrest control from those that know what they are doing and destroy the civilisation they now control.
One thinks of Venezuela. One thinks of Zimbabwe. One sometimes wakes up sweating thinking of California.
In short my thesis is summarized by a warning not to emancipate people with civilisation beyond the ability to educate them to understand what to do with their emancipation, once they have it.
Long ago an Indian academic was pilloried for saying that actually the real solution to his country’s population problem lay in education, Especially of women. “Indian women who are educated, have something better to do than have babies, and understand how not to have them”.
And that is in my final considered opinion the existential problem facing civilisation. It is more advanced than its citizens . And into that vacuum of understanding and education has been poured a destructive mix of cultural Marxism and anti-science and primitive religion.
Sites like WUWT are all we have left to spread enlightenment through a benighted world. Where people behave as scientists should, if science is to be useful.
Somepone once aksed me how much of my university course I had ever used. I confessed it was extremely little.
“So what was the point of it?”
“It didn’t teach me what to think. It taught be how to think. It didn’t pass on received wisdom, It taught me how to find out all by myself”
IN a small way WUWT can be proud to be a small university with a big global membership. That is all that stands between us and a new Dark Age of ignorance.
I have lived in Africa. I love Africa. I may even return to live there. But you do not remain a naive idealist long in Africa. Not past the first dead body in the road.
Of all that civilisation has to offer, the only real gift to Africa ultimately has been education, and knowledge. People have given Africa guns, bibles, korans, and aid. Nothing has come of any of it beyond more Africans killing other Africans. The colonial cities lie in ruins. no one had good reason or the education to keep civilisation going.
But schools. That is something else. Without education, peole eat bananas to stop Aids. With education, they use condoms, or die. Or ask for anti-virals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_denialism_in_South_Africa
Civilisation in the final analysis is a way to maintain higher population densities at a higher standard of living than any other cultural structure. In order to do this is needs coherent system of self regulation – its cultural beliefs myths and moralities and taboos. Of these are discarded or replaced by more barbaric ones it ceases to function and tribalism re-emerges. And education is a tradition that should ultimately show why in the absence of any religion, its better to sacrifice a little personal freedom for the good of society as a whole. #
My fear is, we have lost sight of all of that. It has become politically expedient to teach people what to think. Not how to think.
Is this education?

Or is this?

And which most resembles you nearest school?

Griff
Reply to  Leo Smith
July 26, 2017 6:24 am

“If you introduce technology or give away its fruits to uneducated, poor and deserving people, you will end up with even more poor uneducated and deserving people until you reach the point where by sheer force of numbers, poor uneducated and deserving people dominate the political process.”
I submit that both China and India were full of poor, uneducated and deserving people 50 years ago.
Now look at the progress those nations have made.

Reply to  Griff
July 26, 2017 7:39 am

I suggest that neither are democracies.
And both have concentrated on education, not just technology.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Griff
July 26, 2017 9:49 am

And they used fossil fuels to achieve that progress.

Chris
Reply to  Griff
July 26, 2017 9:53 am

“I suggest that neither are democracies.”
India is absolutely a democracy. What is your evidence that it is not?

Reply to  Griff
July 26, 2017 4:16 pm

spend some time in India … the people I know refuse to return even for a visit.

Ben Gunn
Reply to  Leo Smith
July 26, 2017 7:18 am

Leo Smith, Bravo!!!!

Dave
July 26, 2017 3:45 am

Whenever Gore appears, yet again, I remember his reprehensible misrepresentation of the sensible Roger Revelle, whom I was privileged to listen to at the GSA New Orleans 1990 meeting.

July 26, 2017 4:02 am

Al, what if the planet is not warmed by mankind, but all the lava spewing from the centre of the Earth at millions of degrees?

LdB
Reply to  jaakkokateenkorva
July 26, 2017 9:30 am

He was giving the 97% climate change consensus adjusted value of the Earth’s core. What would Geology know about climate science figures.

rogerthesurf
July 26, 2017 4:07 am

“the potential for tens of millions of refugees” from global warming.”
Yup you betcha.
If we wreck the world economy chasing after “carbon pollution” thats exactly what would happen. Poor countries taking the worst of it naturally.
I thik poor old Al has over invested in renewables and the like. Seems he is trying to keep things going simply to prevent himself from becoming poor.
🙂
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

Doug
July 26, 2017 4:17 am

Who is Joe Romm? He writes a global warming scare, solar good, wind good, coal bad, oil bad article almost everyday on Medium…it’s nauseating

Reply to  Doug
July 26, 2017 6:22 am

He’s a former Clinton Administration bureaucrat and one of John Podesta’s “flying monkeys.”

Editor
July 26, 2017 4:54 am

The Daily Caller? We’re better than that!

commieBob
July 26, 2017 5:04 am

Refugees are, overwhelmingly, caused by humans not the climate. link
In the meantime because of technology and increased CO2, the planet is greening.

… we may already have reached “peak farmland” – not because we’ve run out of land, but because farmers are so successful at producing protein and calories. link

A prosperous economy is not the enemy of the environment.

Progressive environmentalists such as Mr. Ausubel argue that we are reaching the age of the great “decoupling,” in which economic growth is no longer automatically tied to more resource consumption. The United States today uses less water than it did in 1970. Air pollution has declined steeply. We may have even reached peak car.

Neo
Reply to  commieBob
July 26, 2017 6:44 am

“Peak Car” … just in time for autonomous vehicles

commieBob
Reply to  Neo
July 26, 2017 12:19 pm

Most cars spend most of their time parked. Presumably, autonomous cars could result in more efficient use and therefore require fewer cars.
On the other hand, autonomous vehicles could make home delivery a lot cheaper and result in roads clogged with delivery vehicles. link
I wouldn’t bet more than a friendly coffee on either outcome.

David Cage
Reply to  commieBob
July 26, 2017 8:30 am

And because prosperous middle income people often garden and grow crops as entertainment rather than as an occupation so it does not go on any books. Unfortunately the increased size of individuals means that we will not reach peak car until they return to the sort of sizes of a few years ago. Typically the mini here is now the same size as the maxi, which was two models up, compared to the first mini.

July 26, 2017 6:03 am

No, Big Al, egomaniacal tyrants are driving the mass exodus from Africa and the Middle East. Thank heavens that you lost to W.

Sheri
July 26, 2017 6:05 am

This could be avoided by providing Africans with modern methods of farming and living. Because the Greens insist poverty is the way to go, that’s forbidden. It’s interesting that the refugees are COMING TO THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES that use the fossil fuels. They are not fleeing to other Third World areas to share in the utopia of “green living”. Somehow, that evaded Mr. Gore.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Sheri
July 26, 2017 7:49 am

The EU has banned the import of GMO crops from Africa (and elsewhere, I assume). If it hadn’t, Africa would be more prosperous.

LdB
Reply to  Roger Knights
July 26, 2017 9:46 am

The irony is the EU does not ban their own companies from selling GM seed to Africa. It’s not good enough for their own population but it’s okay for Africans. Most of the African nations had to move to ban GM themselves so the EU ban is just grandstanding. If the EU really was concerned it should stop the sale and trading in GM seed or products by any of it’s companies. The history of slavery was filled with the same sort of hypocrisy where companies from countries that had banned slavery traded in it in foreign countries.

Tom Schaefer
July 26, 2017 6:08 am

I’m sorry about the somewhat off-topic post, but since it was featured on Drudge, I had to. http://news.trust.org/item/20170726060325-colqn “Scientists dim sunlight, suck up carbon dioxide to cool planet”
When are people going to realized that atmospheric CO2 is a resource, not a problem. We can feed hundreds of millions with revived ocean pastures by adding a tiny amount of iron to the world’s key fisheries and suck out as much CO2 as we wish, anytime we set our minds to it. Please see Russ George’s experiment off the Canadian west coast. Why would we want to entomb this resource?!

Roger Knights
Reply to  Tom Schaefer
July 26, 2017 7:51 am

And if such seeding is ineffective or counter-productive in some locations, it can be stopped with hardly any damage caused.

Resourceguy
July 26, 2017 6:28 am

This amounts to medium octane fuel for the blame engine that drives some Africans and their governments in finger pointing at the US and Europe.

Edith Wenzel
July 26, 2017 6:31 am

Well that is good if they stay in their own Country. It is familiar to them, it puts no burden or less burden on the rest of the world and they can continue to add to their population and rebuild their own country.

R. de Haan
July 26, 2017 6:33 am

Al Gore, the UN, the IPCC, The World Meteorological Organization, the World Bank, our warmist scientific institutions and the activist scientists, our current political establishment, the lunatic judges who ruled that Co2 is a dangerous life treatning gas, just get rid of them. Any politician who believes human kind is responsible for the weather belongs in a Mental Institution. Period.

Edith Wenzel
July 26, 2017 6:34 am

Sorry my comment makes no sense. It was intended for another article on a different blog with similar context, but with refugees not leaving the country. Given this blog has no edit, or delete capabilities I am stuck cancelling it with this further comment.

Neo
July 26, 2017 6:41 am

Report this again when he doesn’t use the word “Could”

Snarling Dolphin
July 26, 2017 6:55 am

Lots of rain here this morning. I actually saw a turtle climbing a fence post! Damnedest thing!!

R. de Haan
July 26, 2017 6:59 am

So we screw up entire souvereign nations as an integral part of our economic and foreign policy, we starve them by mandatory processing 40% of the maize and wheat crops into bio ethanol, we bomb them, without declaring war, steel their assets and support professional killers to reak havoc. And when the refugees come in we blame it on the bloody weather! Al Gore should persue a career as an Uber Apparatchik in a Totalitarian State with a population that behaves as sheeple with no serious oppostion. Oh…that’s exactly what he’s doing.

commieBob
July 26, 2017 7:01 am

Is he, perhaps, the reincarnation of the Heavenly Tumbleweed. Also known as Pigsy, he was a real nuisance.

July 26, 2017 7:02 am

Refugees or invaders, hmmm, ….. sometimes you can’t tell the difference
Further up the coast where I come from there is a beautiful island called Lošinj.
Few holiday makers there appear to be unperturbed by a menacing alien spaceship hovering above; its colour and general demeanour suggesting it brings invaders and not docile refugees.
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/sarc

Old Grump
Reply to  vukcevic
July 26, 2017 12:15 pm

Would that be the 6-foot tall, beautiful Venerians, the 8-foot tall, beautiful Uranians, the grey Zeta Reticulans, the shape-shifting reptilians from Alpha Draconis, or someone else?
Tell me I don’t need this, but /SARC
Beautiful cloud shot, though!

Reply to  Old Grump
July 26, 2017 1:56 pm

Hi Grumps
I would think that neither medieval Principality of Zeta or current Zeta plain’s inhabitants or even fish of the Zeta river would kindly take to being called Reticulans whatever they were. Of the rest my ignorance equals the ignorance of whoever produced the list of alien creatures you speak of.
(p.s. some of mine distant ancestors were among those who re-formed the old Zeta principality into a new state now known as Monte Negro).

Henning Nielsen
July 26, 2017 7:20 am

“An Inconvenient Flop”

Pamela Gray
July 26, 2017 7:22 am

The ultimate snake oil salesman. The reality is that the planet is greening, likely because of increased availability of CO2, regardless of the source. And the addition of human sourced CO2 does not explain the extent of greening. During warm periods, CO2 naturally increases and assists in the recovery of Earth from cold stadial periods. If Gore had any understanding at all, he would have said that people from Africa are migrating because they don’t like living in a WET environment. But then politicians don’t have to be bright, they just have to be bought.
https://ore.exeter.ac.uk/repository/bitstream/handle/10871/22651/MS.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

nn
July 26, 2017 7:29 am

The first wave was forced by social justice adventures (e.g. elective wars) for two special interest groups: anti-nativists and businesses.

Gary Pearse
July 26, 2017 7:29 am

Canada has been 5-8C cooler this summer than normal. We get 2or3 days normal and they are yelling AGW. Two days ago we had a high of 14C in eastern Ontario, normally 28C. It was warm for about 10days in western Canada near the US border but much cooler the previous months. My wife was in Moscow in June and had to buy a coat., so it looks like the northern hemisphere has been cold this summer. A couple of degrees cooler and we would have another “year without summer” described during the LIA in the 18th century. Activist scientists are becoming more hysterical as fear in them grows – Trump of course, but cold weather to boot.
Drinking water from the tap is cold though, nice.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 26, 2017 7:43 am

I’d say the British summer has been a shade warmer than usual so far, but that’s not saying much.
Ripples in the jet-stream for all temperate zones dominate the climate.

Stewart Pid
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 26, 2017 8:10 am

Canada us a lot bigger than Toronto Gary 😉 Smoking hot in the west this summer since early June and a definite improvement over last years rainfest summer. Actually not that warm but a few degrees above the long term average however if it doesn’t rain soon parts of Alberta will be in drought condition and the farmers will be hurting.

Tim
July 26, 2017 7:50 am

The majority of respondents here are educated or at least aware. They are not the Gore Target Market – that market comprises those who either are too unaware, too busy or too disinterested in researching the facts. They are the unconscious ‘headline scanners’ and consumers of corporate media ‘news’. And this market is numerically by far the majority – otherwise, why have Gore et al persisted with the ongoing stream of propaganda aimed at them for at least 25 years. And then there are the newbies, too young to know of the years of propaganda that has been drenching the media prior to their birth…
There’s one born every minute, eh Al?

Chris
Reply to  Tim
July 26, 2017 10:19 am

What is your evidence to support this claim?

jlurtz
July 26, 2017 7:55 am

Look, whenever you have an “Al Gore” bull-crap article, would you please NOT post his picture!
It makes my coffee have a horrible acid after-taste.

JimG1
Reply to  jlurtz
July 26, 2017 8:12 am

I guess great minds think alike. Was typing mine while you were posting yours I suspect.

JimG1
July 26, 2017 8:03 am

Re algore:
As Dean Wormer said, “Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.” Mod, can’t we dispense with pictures of the idiot in posts about him? Thank you in advance for your consideration.
JimG1

Resourceguy
Reply to  JimG1
July 26, 2017 10:29 am

I agree about the offensive pictures.

David Cage
July 26, 2017 8:25 am

The fact that climate scientist do not welcome the idea of any questioning anyone can throw at them says it all about the flakiness of their science. If you have done a good job and know it you welcome the chance to explain WHY you are right to the public even if you think them ignorant and the great unwashed who won’t really understand. You know the willingness to try will at least give the impression of respect for the public and their ability to follow your arguments and some you know will do so and influence their friends who do not.

fretslider
July 26, 2017 8:43 am

regions of the Middle East and North Africa may become uninhabitable
May?
They have been for decades and that’s down to a certain faith….

Reply to  fretslider
July 26, 2017 9:10 am

The anthropogenic disasters in the region go back millennia, perhaps even beyond Ramesses all the way to Australopithecus Lucy’s direct relatives.

Resourceguy
July 26, 2017 9:37 am

The Book of Gore has many prophecies.

ferdberple
July 26, 2017 10:30 am

Fear mongering. Sky is falling. Sky is falling. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Steve Safigan
July 26, 2017 10:58 am

Poor Al. The public hasn’t listened to him for 25 years and he’s running out of different ways to say the world is ending.

Reply to  Steve Safigan
July 26, 2017 11:25 am

Sounds like he’s there alrightcomment image

Ivor Ward
July 26, 2017 11:50 am

They are not refugees or migrants entering Europe from Africa, The Middle East, Afghanistan and Pakistan, they are slaves. Big businesses require bodies to do the dirty work, to drive down wages, and to consume from the Company Store. If we went and snatched them off the Coast of Africa as we did in the 18th/19th Centuries there would be an outcry but because they have been encouraged by the likes of Soros and Merkel to get half way we snatch them off the Ocean and dump them on Italy and Greece to be distributed to slave markets in the North. The “slaves are not poor in the sense of starving in Africa. They are well clothed, well shod, have cell phones and in most cases have paid modern slave traders for their passage. If they were dirt poor they would be stuck at home. The belief that cheap labour consuming cheap products is equivalent to economic growth is strong in our rich elitist brigades. The fantasy of “refugees” when all they are is slaves is hard to resist.

Amber
July 26, 2017 6:19 pm

Gore has so destroyed his own credibility he is now left to forecast events that have already taken place .
What’s next global warming could cause the second world war ?
A new academy award for above average documentary comedy can’t be ruled out .

toorightmate
July 27, 2017 5:00 am

The poor countries are those that have to listen to Al Gore and his ilk and the main stream left wing media.

kitefreak
July 27, 2017 2:54 pm

Er, no Al. Not climate change causing more refugees into Europe. It looks like something that has been planned and is now being excecuted, with UN, EU and multiple NGOs’ backing. Really cheeky how they (the global elite) now try and pin it on climate change – no less than I expect at this stage. Paul Joseph Watson produced a good report on this issue a few weeks ago: