Record breaking cold weather hits Australia’s south east

NO WONDER it was difficult getting out of bed this morning. If you’re desperate for days to get warmer, we have some good news.

Benedict Brook@BenedictBrook


July 3, 20173:54pm


Temperatures plummeted across Australia’s south east on the weekend.

WAS it difficult getting out from under the doona this weekend? Did you shiver on the way to work this morning? Well spare a thought for the people of Deniliquin.

The mercury in the NSW town, close to the Murray River, sank to -5.6C early on Sunday morning — that’s the coldest it’s been for 110 years.

It was even more icy further north as winter records were broken across NSW and Victoria — some towns recorded their coldest morning ever.

It’s so freezing, the NSW Fire and Rescue Service has been forced to warn people not to fire up barbecues indoors.

Justin Bieber Delights Cheeky Aussie While Running in Sydney. Credit – Instagram/Mathew Wise via Storyful


Frost was widespread over much of Victoria and eastern NSW on Monday morning. Picture: Sky News Weather.Source:Supplied

But, on the bright side, snow starved ski resorts can look forward to the first dumps for a while.

“Yes, it’s still cold. The average minimum in Canberra is 0C in July so -7C is well below average,” Sky News Weather meteorologist Tom Saunders told on Monday.

There should be a slight respite this week with temperatures heading back towards the winter average.

But a front powering its way towards South Australia could see gale force winds with a severe weather warning issued for parts of the state.

We were warned of a cold weekend and it certainly came to pass with widespread frost across inland areas.

A lingering high pressure system has brought clear skies to much of the country’s south east. While that has seen pleasant days, the lack of cloud cover has seen all that daytime heat escape leading to bitterly cold nights.

Early on Saturday morning, the nation’s capital fell to -8.7C, the coldest in 46 years. Three consecutive nights below -7C was also a first for 46 years.

Goulburn fell to -10C on Sunday, it’s coldest start to the day in 17 years. It was only a little better first thing on Monday morning plunging to -9.4C.

Parts of Sydney’s west got down to almost -2C on Monday morning, while the CBD’s 5.4C start to Sunday was the coldest night for two years.

Melbourne’s CBD got even lower on Sunday, just creeping above freezing to 0.8C.

Elsewhere in Victoria, the Latrobe Valley was -4.8C, the coldest for three decades. Sale’s low of -6.6C on Monday was its coldest ever recorded temperature.

To see the whole story click here

Belated HT to lewispbuckingham, I didn’t realize he was my source originally.

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July 4, 2017 8:17 am

With most houses being poorly insulated and with the very high cost of electricity thanks to the moronic policies of state and federal governments how much suffering during this cold spell. Heat or eat.
While China is laughing all the way to the bank thanks to those like flim flam Flannery Australia is slowly becoming a third world country.

Reply to  nc
July 4, 2017 4:15 pm

I live in northern NSW, we have had unusually warm weather, its like spring up here. By the way, weather is different from climate, just letting you know. Thought we sorted that out a long time ago. If in doubt, there are dictionaries on line. Relying on the same information this article relies on to show how cold it is down south, Australia had yet another hottest year on record in 2016. Silly man wasted his time writing the article.

Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 6:06 pm

I live in northern NSW, we have had unusually warm weather, its like spring up here. By the way, weather is different from climate, just letting you know.

Pot, meet kettle.

Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 6:13 pm
Rob Bradley
Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 6:26 pm

1) Do you know the difference between 2016 and 2017? If you don’t, do you want me to explain it to you?
2) Did you know that the temperature of a single day only contributes 1/365th of the value of the annual average?
3) Do you know how many monitoring stations there are? Does a record at one of these stations on one day of the year affect the annual average for the whole continent?

Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 6:34 pm

Rob Bradley,
“Australia had yet another hottest year on record in 2016”
Says who?
Do you want me to explain it to you?

Rob Bradley
Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 6:39 pm

I would like you to explain to me how a record in 2017 affect the annual temp in 2016.

Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 7:01 pm

Ok, I’ll explain. I was referencing the games played by Big Science as Jennifer Marohasy pointed to.
Going back to 2014 The Most Dishonest Year on Record

the NASA press release failed to mention…that the alleged ‘record’ amounted to an increase over 2010, the previous ‘warmest year’, of just two-hundredths of a degree—or 0.02C. The margin of error is said by scientists to be approximately 0.1C—several times as much.

Pause for a moment to digest that. The margin of error was plus or minus one tenth of a degree. The difference supposedly being measured here is two hundredths of a degree—five times smaller than the margin of error. The Daily Mail continues:

As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted NASA thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond.

Rob Bradley
Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 7:19 pm

I read the article by Morohasy. It makes no mention of “NASA” “Big Science” and deals with a single day’s temperature at a single geographic location for the year 2017.
It has no bearing on the global temperature in 2016.
Now, your squawk about “The margin of error was plus or minus one tenth of a degree.” ……Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the error of an individual reading correct? Do you understand what “Standard Error” is when using sampling to estimate the population mean?

Your “explanation” is lacking.

Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 7:36 pm

Back to the beginning Rob.

Australia had yet another hottest year on record in 2016

Says who?

Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 12:00 am

All i got in response was that scientists are making things up and one bloke responded with something about kettles and one bloke, who sounds as though he is 10, could only respond with “who says”. Great argument. We have an organisation called the CSIRO and believe it or not, down here we have meteorologists that gather daily information. When the measurements are gathered for the whole year from around the country and they see they have increased on the year before, they say its a hotter year. Pretty simple really. You can check their website, but of course they are also making stuff up.

Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 4:29 am

steve, you see that temperature that BoM uses in the centre of Australia? How many temperature stations in that region? Now do that exercise again in the Pilbara and Muchison. Then try looking at stations between Darwin and Alice Springs. All that empty space and they have averaged temperatures for them.

Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 4:59 am

I live in North NSW- at altitude. All average here.Nothing extraordinary to report.

Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 1:38 pm

I’m wondering if something akin to the northern hemisphere flip where disruption of the jetstream has caused mid latitudes to have freezing winters at the same time as the arctic has had record ‘hot’ periods is beginning to occur in the southern hemisphere. The Antarctic is currently being sluggish in rebuilding its sea ice after last summers record low low.
On the other hand, our recent winters in Hawkes Bay have been pretty mild with just one or two dumps of Antarctic cold air to relieve the complacency. I know Melbourne had some extreme cold last winter while the Antarctic was producing a low high for sea ice.

Reply to  nc
July 9, 2017 8:04 am

Well, gee whiz…..Aren’t these record low temps in locations that are downwind from S. A. where drastic cuts to CO2 emissions have been implemented…..Just sayin’…….?

July 4, 2017 8:25 am

It’s so freezing, the NSW Fire and Rescue Service has been forced to warn people not to fire up barbecues indoors.

I realize it’s supposed to be a dumb idea. On the other hand, lots of people have natural gas stoves, without makeup air, and don’t seem to die because of it. What’s the difference?

Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 8:40 am

Commie Bob-generally the exhaust for burner is ducted directly outside. The heat from the heat exchanger(hot water or forced air) stays inside the house. A good gas furnace these days will keep over 95% of the heat inside.

Reply to  Philo
July 4, 2017 10:51 am

Gas furnaces usually have two pipes leading to the outside—one for air in, one for air out. On mine, you can pull air from inside the house, but that is not the preferred method. Outside air for combustion is the preferred way. We were surprised when the chimney consisted of a piece of PVC pipe. No insulation, doesn’t get hot. Quite amazing. (Our propane furnace is rated 96% efficient.)

Reply to  Philo
July 5, 2017 12:59 pm

In Bowen, tropical Queensland many years ago, during a cold snap, I was amused to see people standing around bonfires in their back yards to keep warm. Apparently they had no heating in their homes.

Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 8:42 am

One can use the burners on the natural gas stove without makeup air, but one is not supposed to use the oven to heat the house. Burners do give off CO, and can raise CO levels, but one generally does not run the burners for extended periods, as is done with barbecues. Ovens are used for longer periods, yes, but with the door closed, limiting the release of CO. Often, there are vented hoods over the stove to pull out the CO and cooking odors.
I suppose if you have a good CO detector and trust it, you could haul in the barbecue and fire it up. It’s not recommended, but if you’re curious, you can experiment. If you have a gas stove, put the alarm in the kitchen and see what reading you get when you cook. Same thing with the BBQ. (I know that’s a “don’t try this at home” thing, but really, we all do those things.)
One other thing—stoves and barbeques are very poor ways to heat a house even in the absence of the CO problem.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Sheri
July 4, 2017 12:49 pm

CO acts differently than CO2.
Talk to your doctor before ingesting.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Sheri
July 4, 2017 12:52 pm

When a person inhales carbon monoxide, it combines with the red blood cells that normally carry oxygen to the body’s tissues and replaces the oxygen that is normally carried in the blood. As a result, less oxygen is carried to the brain and other body tissues. Carbon monoxide can cause severe poisoning and death.
Carbon monoxide is made during burning when there is not enough oxygen present for complete combustion. The main sources of carbon monoxide are engine fumes (such as from cars or boats), fires burning with poor ventilation (such as gas heaters and indoor cooking fires), factories, and smoking tobacco.

CO2 displaces Oxygen in the air but is not the killer that CO is.

Patrick Powers
Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 9:27 am

It’s only a matter of quantity. I can remember as a child in the UK (I am now 80) having a portable gas fire in our living room which, connected the ‘gas-poker socket’ (used to plug in a gas poker in order to light coal fires) was a perfect replacement for a 1kW ‘single bar’ electric fire. It sat near the hearth but sometimes on a carpet and gave out much more heat too, it radiated quite as well as a 1kW electric fire but by convection it heated the room excellently. Yes, it used the air in the room but houses then were not as sealed as they are now. I heard of no problems and remember that these were the times of coal gas – poisonous as well as explosive!

Keith J
Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 9:34 am

Stoves run at near stoichiometric air/fuel ratio while the typical Barbie is choked on air. Carbon monoxide is the killer.

July 4, 2017 8:35 am

Is ManBearPig in town?

Reply to  AleaJactaEst
July 4, 2017 1:36 pm

LOL, well, yes, with the record cold one would expect Al Gore to be in the vicinity 😉

CC Reader
Reply to  AleaJactaEst
July 4, 2017 7:13 pm

“Warren Buffet’s vice chair: Gore’s ‘not very smart’ & ‘an idiot’, but became filthy rich investing in ‘global warming’”

July 4, 2017 8:49 am

I’m sure the learned climate psychologists at Australian universities will rationalize this while turning up the office thermostat.

Carbon BIgfoot
Reply to  Resourceguy
July 4, 2017 10:06 am

Do you think the grid in South Australia provides enough electricity to run the furnace combustion air fans and controls? I’ll bet you wish you hadn’t shutdown your last coal fired generating station. Your politicians are such morons.

Reply to  Carbon BIgfoot
July 4, 2017 10:55 am

Carefull, or you will offend us morons.

Reply to  Resourceguy
July 4, 2017 2:01 pm

I’m mildly curious.
If the learned profs and other psychologists do indeed turn up the office thermostat – who pays for the additional heating [Solar, gas, whatever. Not coal, I guess!!]?
Might it, perchance, be the taxpayer?
[Whatever happened to the pejorative term ‘Trick Cyclist’?]

July 4, 2017 8:51 am

Hmmm, wonder if this will get reported on the MSM in America ?

Reply to  Butch2
July 4, 2017 12:34 pm

Only if the Prez tweets about it . . in a scandalous manner ; )

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Butch2
July 4, 2017 3:31 pm

“wonder if this will get reported on the MSM in America?”
Really? We had our coldest morning for two years. Some places went below 32F. In the middle of winter. Is America so short of news?
When the sun came up, the days were very pleasant. BTW, you might notice in that report mention of “snow-starved ski resorts”.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 4, 2017 4:39 pm

We can always count on Nick to pick nits. The fact that abnormally cold temperatures are being reported from Western Europe to all over North America and down to Australia is of no consequence in his world.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 4, 2017 4:57 pm

“The fact that abnormally cold temperatures”
It’s not abnormally cold. I’m at ground zero, so to speak. We had our coldest morning for two years. That is, the coldest morning of this winter was colder than any morning last winter, but not the winter before.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 5, 2017 4:49 am

“Some places went below 32F”
No, some places went to -8, others to -10 centigrade. Trust Tricky Nicky to divert with a non-sequiteur.

July 4, 2017 8:58 am

“— some towns recorded their coldest morning ever.”
Clear and unequivocal evidence of Global Warming!

Reply to  Ron
July 4, 2017 4:46 pm

There are dictionaries, you might of heard of them, on line that explain the difference between weather and climate. Also we here in Australia had are hottest year on record in 2016. 2017 is on track to beat 2016. We have had 15 out of 16 hottest years on record this century.That’s clear evidence of global warming.

Brett Keane
Reply to  steve
July 4, 2017 6:27 pm

Quite clear Steve knows nowt about margins of error, nor honest statistics! Just another troll, programmed to have its head up its fundament.

tony mcleod
Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 5:02 am

Forget it Steve. The more evidence you present here – it just means the bigger and more sophisticated is the conspyracy.
Then, once you’ve demonstrated it’s warming you’ll be greeted by the “isn’t that a good thing?” crowd: the moronic plant-fooders and a few nutty Canadians.
Just let them circle-jerk about their dwindling cold records.
I know how anomalous this ice-weirding graph must seem to them, so I keep posting the update:comment image

Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 2:14 pm

So the “glewb” is warming?
So the !$#%¥><€!!ing hell what!?

tony mcleod
Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 2:49 pm

So the “glewb” is warming?
So the !$#%¥><€!!ing hell what!?
Is that how far you've got with your research?

Reply to  steve
July 5, 2017 3:06 pm

And we all live happily ever-after,keep whinging and worrying over nothing.

Phillip Bratby
July 4, 2017 9:09 am

This has not yet been reported on the BBC as a definite indicator of “climate change”.

Barbara Skolaut
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
July 4, 2017 9:15 am

Give ’em time . . . .

Reply to  Barbara Skolaut
July 4, 2017 2:13 pm


July 4, 2017 9:21 am

It’s a bit disingenuous using negative C numbers instead of F for this article. It’s read by a largely American viewership who normally think in terms of Fahrenheit. In the U.S., Australia’s record cold is little more than a hard freeze.
Reply: It’s Russia’s fault! ~ctm

Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 9:38 am

The WUWT audience is not the general population. We can cope with centigrade temperatures. 🙂

Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 10:55 am

There are all kinds of unit converters out there for temperature, etc, that can be loaded onto your computer. It comes in handy when you read articles from many different countries.

Fred Brohn
Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 11:42 am

The WUWT audience is not the general population. We can cope with centigrade temperatures. 🙂 —— and Kelvin to boot!

Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 1:02 pm

We don’t see partial degrees in Fahrenheit-land ~ “… got down to almost -2C on Monday morning” is somewhat odd to hear. One wonders what’s so special about minus 2? ; )

Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 1:41 pm

The metric system makes perfect sense for science, but there’s no reason at all for it in everyday use. Doesn’t give one any advantage at all — for example, look at how much more expensive gasoline is where it’s sold by the litre.

Reply to  commieBob
July 4, 2017 6:06 pm

JohnKnight July 4, 2017 at 1:02 pm
That’s because Centigrade degrees are 1.8 times larger than Fahrenheit degrees. From 32 F to 212 F is the same as from 0 C to 100 C: 180/100 = 9/5.

Keith J
Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 9:39 am

As long as the units are reported, it isn’t an issue. I know -5°C is about 29 °F or 268 K.
The viewers of this website are above the mean in physical world.

Reply to  Keith J
July 4, 2017 10:15 am

Actually, it is 23 F., still not that cold for a mid-winter in the northern US.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Keith J
July 4, 2017 10:20 am

Kieth J, try your conversion again. C degrees are larger than F degrees,

Reply to  Keith J
July 4, 2017 10:36 am


Stephen Cheesman
Reply to  Keith J
July 4, 2017 1:23 pm

Keith J – actually you’ve got the sizes of the degrees reversed. 5 C degrees actually 9 F degrees (exactly), so -5C works out to be 23°F, which is a bit chillier.

Reply to  Keith J
July 4, 2017 2:42 pm

(Not to worry, Keith, to err is human . . and if you can keep it up, you might have a career waiting for you with IPCC ; )

Alan Ranger
Reply to  Keith J
July 4, 2017 10:20 pm

With all this global cooling going on, we won’t have to worry about the units when it plummets to -40! 🙂

Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 12:34 pm

In the U.S., Australia’s record cold is little more than a hard freeze.

Australia is a lot closer to the equator than the US. This makes the temps typically much warmer. The current cold snap in the south is quite severe for us.
With power costs in parts of Australia rising by 100% or more due to scrapping cheap coal plants, causing businesses to shut down because they just can’t afford it, trouble for many could be brewing.
Here in the north we are having a rather mild winter so far, however.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 1:22 pm

Deg C = 5/9*(F-32) and Deg F = 9/5*C +32

Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 1:49 pm

Its what is used in Australia..
When Aussies speak in F.. they refer to it as “in the old scale”

Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 2:26 pm

0C is 32F. Each degree C is a smidge under 2F (actually 1.8) Easy enough to do in your head and the difference isn’t large as long as you aren’t too far from the freezing point of water.

Reply to  MarkW
July 5, 2017 5:01 am

Does anybody know why 0F is 32 degrees below freezing?
It’s because, when Mr Fahrenheit wanted to put the zero point onto his new mercury temperature measurement, he went outside and stuck it into the snow. In other words, it was bloody cold that day.
Supplementary question: Why is a cow 100F?
Because, when Mr Fahrenheit wanted to put the 100 point on it, he stuck it into the back end of a cow.

Reply to  azleader
July 4, 2017 11:13 pm

disingenuous? seriously? it about Australia, they use degrees C. The article is about unusual cold for that location not how it compares with the US. Weird perspective on things.

Reply to  azleader
July 5, 2017 4:56 am

“a largely American viewership who normally think in terms of Fahrenheit”
The American viewership should learn modern measurement systems, such as the SI system. The Centigrade system has only been going for a few hundred years.

July 4, 2017 9:31 am

Heat or eat is unlikely to apply at government buildings. Why we find so many fans of socialism in those buildings.

July 4, 2017 9:35 am

It must be all the fault of that Trump guy stealing our heat-
Give these Trump derangement syndrome people a moment and they’ll manage to wangle the guy into it all somehow. By the way how many times has he been impeached already?

Reply to  observa
July 4, 2017 10:58 am

I don’t mind Trump stealing our heat as as he applies it to the backsides of the MSM.

July 4, 2017 9:42 am

I think those who go to this site know the difference. Saying it is disingenuous is a bit strong.

James Fosser
Reply to  dpj12
July 4, 2017 3:09 pm

If I found that people in general who read WUWT are having difficulty translating C to F, every morning I would just read the Los Angeles newspapers or- God forbid-the New York Times.

July 4, 2017 9:43 am

…or they still compiling the list of charges?

July 4, 2017 9:47 am

I just figured out how unexplained heat hides, using what I shall hereinafter call the Rogue-Cold-Spot Heat Sink Hypothesis (RCS2H2, for short).
It works like this: human-caused warming creates rogue cold spots around the globe through magical fluid dynamics physics. These rogue cold spots, then, suck in the unexplained heat, giving a false impression that more global warming has not occurred.
If Dr. Hawking can posit sulfuric acid raining down on Earth, then certainly I can posit this.
Next time, my Intelligence-Sucking Black Hole Theory.

Carbon BIgfoot
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
July 4, 2017 10:10 am

I can’t wait!! Remember you can’t fix stupid.

Phil R
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
July 4, 2017 10:55 am

Don’t know what else to say. Just, + a bunch.

Peter Miller
July 4, 2017 9:50 am

No worries!
With the magic alogarithms employed by NASA and Australia’s BOM, this cold snap will have completely disappeared within the next five years.
The Global Warming Industry works in its own mystical and mysterious ways always making the past cooler and the present warmer.

Bjorn Ramstad
Reply to  Peter Miller
July 4, 2017 10:18 am

And the future, my friend, the future will be hot. Very hot.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Bjorn Ramstad
July 4, 2017 10:47 am

Heap big warmy warmy…

Peter Miller
Reply to  Bjorn Ramstad
July 4, 2017 10:57 am

Absolutely right. In a few billion years it is going to get very hot.

Reply to  Peter Miller
July 4, 2017 2:23 pm

In ‘the next five years’ the present – July 2017 – will have become the deep and distant past [on present ‘snowflake’ standards – significantly more ephemeral than those of the mayfly].
So, I guess, today’s -5C/23F will be homogenised to about -8C/18F (ish).
Down jackets – or some nice quilts – may be preferred!
Mods – I wish this was /Sarc . . . but, sadly, it is a bit too close to reality for kiddies raised in the CAGW tradition enforced by the watermelons – Citrullus sp.

July 4, 2017 9:56 am

To anyone of normal neurological function it isn’t a giant shock to learn that things get a bit chilly when the winds blow straight off the poles. It is however quite entertaining when record lows happen at a time we’re supposed to be experiencing runaway global warming and have been for decades and celeb scientists are talking irreversible tipping points and Venusian climates – again. The Muppet Climate Show upon which the curtain never falls and laughter is always in style.

July 4, 2017 10:16 am

[Catastrophic] Anthropogenic Global Warming is dead. Long live Climate Change.

Tom Halla
July 4, 2017 10:19 am

Other than indulging in pure snark on what happened to global warming, what seems to matter as far as temperature is what one expects and is used to. As Southeast Australia has a climate similar to California, anything below freezing is damn cold.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 4, 2017 1:11 pm

Nature does not care what you are used to.

July 4, 2017 10:20 am

I do hope Ms. Perkins-Kilpatrick’s spawn isn’t too cold to walk to school now [sarc]
That said it is winter in Aus and average temperatures are made up of temperatures both above and below normal so this is really just weather. Although I do appreciate that the weather has a sense of humor and does not like to follow standardized memes of the climate community.

July 4, 2017 10:40 am

All those carbon taxes must be working, eh?

Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
July 4, 2017 11:35 am

Oh come on – its not *that* cold. Are we short of news today?
But then, think about what’s going here with this story and I’m gonna use me as The Prime Example.
I am presently sat here in a pub, in the East Midlands, sucking on fizzy water, watching the people come and go (they are an endless fascination) and obviously, ‘playing about on the interweb’
Having recently moved from Cumbria, plus with being an ex-farmer/peasant, I have a lifelong and continuing fascination with weather. Wunderground is a goldmine.
Wunderground tell me, via one of their most reliable and long running stations in Cumbria that I lived 3 miles away from, that there has been 24mm of rain at my old farm today, temp is 13degC with a brisk and gusty easterly (cold) breeze. (That is very unusual for there, east winds there are normally dry)
Meanwhile here in Notts, it is just over 26degC , just a breath of breeze and bone-dry. That’s got nothing to do with why I moved here..
Well, in actual fact it has everything to do with why I moved here so, empty wandering minds get to wondering about ‘things’ – Climate related things at present (That good looking woman in the tight blue jeans has left but, her sister has now arrived. sigh With her b/f. groan)
The wonderation here/now revolves around this instant access to weather and ‘climate’ information and the now constant (what’s the word?) desire/fight/want/need to set yourself as superior to someone/everyone. To be Top Dog, Alpha Male, Stephen Hawking, Big D1ck. The relentless modern day need to be at the top of the heap. The Rat- Race as it was called.
So is that what all this (I’m sure it’s all fake/faux) concern about climate is all about?
Are all these Climate Warriors/Alarmists etc concerned that someone somewhere is getting a better climate and/or nicer weather than they are? And it is that modern day urge like lawyers have and will admit (when tipsy or drunk) regarding money – “Its so much easier to take than to make”
Hence, climate warriors determine in their own minds they have ‘crap weather/climate’ and because they are able to do sweet fanny adams about it, they try to p1ss on everyone else’s parade.. They’ll try to dump on people who have/enjoy an imagined (or real for that matter) ‘better climate’.
They simply cannot cope with the fact someone is having a better time than they.
They will never admit it but- that’s why I enjoy *watching* people rather than listening.
You learn *so* much more about how they operate.
Words are so easy to lie with. Body language doesn’t lie.

Reply to  Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
July 5, 2017 4:49 am

Cumbria I note has seen new levels of record rainfall in recent years and repeated severe flood events.
which is climate change – the UK climate has changed into a pattern with more frequent intense slow moving rainstorms
you are in effect a climate refugee…

Reply to  Griff
July 5, 2017 10:20 am

Yes, and he was already counted as a climate refugee in numerous peer reviewed studies by now whether he wanted to be or not.

Reply to  Griff
July 5, 2017 1:40 pm

Have you apologised to Dr. Crockford for maliciously lying about her professional qualifications yet, Skanky?
Don’t you think you ought to?

July 4, 2017 11:42 am

It is CLIMATE CHANGE I tell you! My ocean front home will lose most of its value because I will be 100s of feet from the water. The glaciers will grow and cover my back yard. We must do something. We can start burning coal to heat up the oceans. If we don’t act we are all going to die.

July 4, 2017 1:20 pm

Did not hear about this on the BBC – shock horror. (But every warm day is reported….)

July 4, 2017 1:28 pm

Being in my 60’s, and living in Melbourne in the South East, I have experienced very similar conditions before. Due to a severe allergy to smog in those days I recall particularly the year 1972 as being very similar to what we are getting now. No surprise really.

Green Sand
July 4, 2017 2:23 pm

Put some coal on!

July 4, 2017 2:25 pm

That top blue image reminds me of Van Gogh’s Starry Night!

July 4, 2017 3:55 pm

So canberra got down to -8’C that is 2’C than the record. See the planet is warming.

July 4, 2017 5:13 pm

Melbourne’s metropolitan June average overnight low was nearly 2c below the long-term average (1.8c). That is massive!! (I personally discount the city record due to UHI). Not one mention in the mainstream media of course. If it was the other way around, it certainly would’ve got a mention especially from the hysterics at the ABC and Fairfax Media.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  DJCJ
July 4, 2017 5:56 pm

“Melbourne’s metropolitan June average overnight low was nearly 2c below the long-term average (1.8c).”
Quite untrue. The average min for June 2017 was 6.8C and max 14.9C.
Data here. The long term average for June , here, is 6.9C and max 14.1.

July 4, 2017 6:43 pm

So the night’s were on average 0.1C lower than the mean, and the days were 0.6C higher than the mean. Does mean warming or cooling?

Alan Ranger
Reply to  Dave
July 5, 2017 1:18 am

AGW “theory” (and I use the term in its loosest possible sense in that context) predicts that warming will be most noticeable as an increase in night-time averages. So in answer to your query, it would mean cooling.

July 4, 2017 6:56 pm

Did I read this right the report stated that “snow starved ski resorts can look forward for the first dumps for a while” But historically they are known as the Snowy Mountains

Gary Pearse
July 4, 2017 7:20 pm

With all that cold water around Oz, I was wondering why we weren’t hearing about cold. I thought the ARC ANGELS of Excellence in Climateering must have got stuck in the ice of G warmimg again and were holding off sounding the alarm. Record cold huh, that’s gotta hurt.

July 4, 2017 7:35 pm

Since the words the snow cover in Australia’s alpine region has dropped by 40%, ref Australian Daily Mail 20th July 2015

Reply to  Dave
July 4, 2017 11:21 pm

plenty cold enough just no precipitation

July 4, 2017 11:19 pm

Well they arent coming in the summer months, winter is the only time you would want to visit

July 5, 2017 4:40 am
“Given that the 2016 season coincided with one of the wettest winter’s in Southern Australia it is surprising that the amount of snow did not reach the levels experienced in seasons such as 1981. The 3 metre level was last reached in 1992, before that in 1981, 1969, 1964, and 1956. But has not reached that level in 24 years to 2016. Interestingly , the highest snow depth for 2016 occured in early October, this is usually recorded in August”

July 5, 2017 5:00 am

I’ve got this new hypothesis I’m working on that explains the change in climate-
But I see I’m not alone in exploring this fruitful avenue of research-
and the race is on to feed all the proxies into the supercomputer.

July 5, 2017 6:49 am

Jennifer Marohasy just pointed out the the Australian BOM erased the record low temperature of -10.4 C

Reply to  Keith
July 5, 2017 11:24 am

Ah those tricksters at the BOM, Thank goodness for Jennifer M,
No Xmas card this year Jennifer!!!

July 5, 2017 7:53 am

Here’s a website I just ran across:
I live in Memphis. It says that between 1981 and 2010 Memphis averaged 54 days over 90F degrees per summer. And actually the historical average is 69 days according to Accuweather.
We have had 2 days over 90 this summer. Two. According to the Accuweather historical record, 13 days over 90F would be normal for this date.
The forecast is that the next two will be under 90F so we will be 15 behind normal. Only nine days out of 31 are forecast to be 90F for or above for July when the historic record has an average of 90 or better every day.
When exactly does weather become climate? 1981 to 2010 was already showing fewer days over 90F than the historic record does.

July 6, 2017 3:54 am

The website says 21 days of 90F or higher is the average for July

July 7, 2017 1:28 pm

Goulburn was actually colder than -10C … JoNova explains, the BOM fudged the temp record initially …..
“The BOM got caught this week auto-adjusting cold extremes to be less cold. Lance Pidgeon of the unofficial BOM audit team noticed that the thermometer at Goulburn airport recorded – 10.4°C at 6.17am on Sunday morning, but the official BOM climate records said it was -10.0°C. (What’s the point of that decimal place?) Either way this was a new record for Goulburn in July. (The previous coldest ever July morning was -9.1°C. The oldest day in Goulburn was in August 1994 when it reached -10.9°C).
Apparently this was an automated event where the thermometer recorded something beyond a set limit, and the value put into the official database was the artificial limit. Since colder temperatures have already been recorded in Goulburn, who thought it was a good idea to trim all future minus-ten-point-somethings as if they were automatically “spurious”?
Yesterday, the BOM have acknowledged the error and at first deleted the -10.0 figure, replacing it with a blank space. Then today, after Jennifer Marohasy’s post, they’ve corrected it.”

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