Guest essay by Eric Worrall
New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who led the failed “Attorneys General United for Clean Power” effort to harass climate skeptics, is now demanding President-elect Trump trample the rights of Republican supporters.
To me this letter demonstrates the utter overweening arrogance of politically connected climate advocates like Schneiderman.
Nobody is preventing Schneiderman from pursuing clean power in his own state. But that isn’t good enough – Schneiderman won’t be satisfied unless he messes up everyone elses life as well, either by convincing Trump to break key campaign promises, or by fulfilling his threat to litigate, to waste Trump’s time.
In my opinion, Schneiderman has no respect for the limits of his office, no respect for the right of people to disagree with him, and no respect for Trump’s overwhelming democratic mandate. The sooner Schneiderman is ejected from office, the better.
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Noticed Ryan signed this.
Well, I didn’t see his sig., but his name is listed at the bottom.
Not signed by Ryan just copied to him
Nobody named Ryan signed it. A copy of the letter was sent to Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House.
The court cases the AG cited don’t seem to apply to the situation he is so concerned about.
I particularly liked the cite to Marbury v Madison. When I was in law school …ummm, about 59 years ago…nope, we studied ConLaw 57 years ago…I memorized the first seven Supreme Court reporters in the expectation that it would be on the final. Even taught’em to my son and wife. (My son can still recite them; wife has passed but I’d bet she could, too). Dallas,Cranch, Wheaton, Peters, Howard, Black and Wallace. Not too sure about Howard, but I still can reel them off.
Jim B JD ’60 Georgetown Law
Nope. He was sent a copy of the letter. Read things more closely, Kook.
Speaker Ryan didn’t sign this letter. He was copied. However, Paul Ryan has voted to extend the Wind Production Tax Credit – PTC (aka: Pork-To-Cronies) every time it was due to expire. Industrial wind is part & parcel of the ‘Clean Power Plan.’ Paul Ryan cries for fiscal sanity, while simultaneously doling taxpayer-funded Wind Welfare to his crony-pals – without which, the wind industry wouldn’t even exist. I am no fan of Paul Ryan.
Living in rural Western New York State, I can testify to the disaster NY AG Schneiderman and Gov. Cuomo are orchestrating here. The actual results of industrializing rural New York State with environmentally, economically & civilly-destructive industrial wind factories over the past 17 years is a far cry from Schneiderman’s energy-illiterate, greed-driven wishful thinking. “One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ~ Milton Friedman
‘Clean’ Power Plan Problem – Wind Power Destruction in New York State:
https://www.masterresource.org/epa-power-plant-rule/wind-destruction-clean-power-plan/
Kokoda
Incorrect.
Ryan is simply cc’ed (carbon copied) on the bottom. If Schneiderman had thought about it, he could have put your name there (without your knowledge or consent).
He was copied on the letter. He did not sign it.
Ryan did not sight it. He was sent a copy ( CC ) of the letter.
Schneiderman represents the epitome of a politician – a person with no skills whose sole mission is to waste the labors of honest citizens. And in that, he is the antithesis of Trump. Even if Trump believed in AGW, he would be fighting Schneiderman. Trump is not an ideologue except in one aspect. He hates incompetents who are not fired.
He’s Jewish, what did you expect?
[A bit “prejudging” his behavior (based on his declared religion/race) are you not? .mod]
That is not relevant. Please keep your prejudices (to which you are entitled, but reveal lack of thoughtfulness), in check.
David
What a jerk (you). But then, that’s what I’d expect…
Can’t wait to see you defend this crap (assuming you decide to hang around long enough to debase yourself even further).
@mod: wouldn’t it be better to remove David’s post than indulge it by replying to it? This sort of comment has no place on WUWT and I’d be surprised if Anthony tolerated it.
I think idiots like this ‘david’ drop these comments with the hopes that people will see them and think we all believe that $#!+
A counter to your claim – look up any of the recent interviews Alan Dershowitz has given. They’re easy to find.
epitome of the new-age microcelebrity emoticon clickbait pols
Watch the rabid neo-Marxist scream when federal funding is removed from his little scam.
1/20/17
Our useless California AG, Kamala Harris, signed it …
w.
Isn’t that your soon to be useless senator? I guess replacing Boxer though it is a bit of a wash.
“a bit of a wash.” – More of a flush…..
Well Harris is a boat load smarter than Boxer was at her shiniest moment. So Harris is far more dangerous; and she’s on a mission.
g
Willis,
Sad but true. It has been some time since our state elected a Senator who was worthy of the title. I voted for neither of the choices we were given for Senator last month and there was no write in option for Senator on my ballot.
Brooks
We really need a valid “None Of The Above” option on our ballots and if None Of The Above garners the highest percentage of the vote then All running candidates are excused and all new ones must run for a secondary election.
Bryan A: Could get very expensive having new elections so often.
Useless? You are too polite.
As a Finn, Kamala Harris sounds funny to me because “kamala” is finnish and means “terrible” or something bad and frightening…
+10
So why are you complaining? She is properly named then.
And she’s nearly as smart as the Finns; so doubly frightening.
g
Willis
You need to move.
Or get very serious about California politics. Most of the opposition, like me, left the state to the crazies.
Javert, it’s sort of a wash in my experience. I left CA in the late 90’s and took up residence in a red state (WY) for 16 years. I made the mistake of moving to Jackson, which is actually worse than CA. If you get far enough away from there, WY isn’t too bad. People are reasonable and they mostly mind their own business. But it can get a bit nasty even in the outback. We had a town council in Lincoln county that tried to prohibit “adult entertainment” (strippers) in one of the local watering holes and even though I’m not a big fan of strippers, I had to show up and vote down the ordinance on principal. That sort of thing doesn’t happen much in CA.
The folks out there spend a bit more time regulating stuff like that than they do in CA. They aren’t a welfare state and their roads are in better shape, but they do have a lot to say about what most of us think of as our private lives.
Beyond that, it’s awful cold most of the time in WY. Great deer and elk hunting though. If we could just get the Californian’s out of the state it would be a much nicer place. The taxes are horrible. Nobody wants Californians though. I’m not a native but I’ve lived there on and off for about 50 years. For some weird reason California attracts collectivists. I don’t know why.
Kamala Harris will soon be a U.S. senator who has refused to answer a Congressional subpoena.Can the House subpoena a member of the Senate? Or has the clock run out on her subpoena?
Wikipedia: ‘Contempt of Congress’
Scroll down to: ‘Partial list of those held in contempt since 1975’
Note the VIPs who were held in Contempt of Congress for not complying to subpoenas and the results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress
Congressional Research Service, April, 2014
‘Congress’s Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: A Sketch
Includes Supreme Court decisions and a section on Senate powers.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34114.pdf
According to Wikipedia, Kamala Harris got the California Democratic Party endorsement and Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez, D. did not.
BALLOTPEDIA
United States Senate election in California, 2016
Scroll down to: Endorsements for Kamala Harris & Loretta Sanchez the two candidates for the U.S. Senate on the November, 2016 California ballot. Both Democrats.
Kamala Harris also endorsed by Gov.Brown among others.
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_election_in_California,_2016
From the letter: “…inflicted by unchecked carbon pollution: …, a record deluge on the Front Range in Colorado, …”
That’s not what NOAA says.
http://research.noaa.gov/News/NewsArchive/LatestNews/TabId/684/artmid/1768/articleid/10787/Climate-change-not-to-blame-for-2013-Colorado-floods-.aspx
“There’s clear evidence that overall, our greenhouse gas emissions are making the planet warmer and moister, but we found such climate factors had little appreciable effect on the frequency of heavy 5-day rainfall events in this area during September,” said Martin Hoerling, a research meteorologist at NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colorado, and lead author of the new study, which also included researchers from the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) and NASA. In fact, the study suggests that in this region, the likelihood of heavy rainfall events may have slightly decreased because of human-induced climate change.
(good point about the letter’s twisted version of the AGWer’s current assertions about AGW, kmann)
But, NOAA still got in the junk science-based propaganda about human CO2. Good ol’ NOAA. Led and, in many cases staffed, too, by such fine, upstanding, scientists — NOT!
“There’s clear evidence … emissions are making” — this is, unless Mr. Hoerling is so ignorant as to be unqualified for his position, a LIE. There is ZERO evidence of such causation. Conjecture is not evidence.
Eric Schneiderman should be in the role of defendant under the various KKK laws for abusing his position to deny civil rights to various people who disagree with his political supporters.
The first part probably took them the longest to write, to “Donald J. Trump, President-Elect of the United States of America.” (*shaking hands*)
The rest of the letter they could copy-and-paste with some begging thrown in for good measure.
Like all progressives and self styled “elites” Schneiderman is certain that he is smarter, better educated, and more knowledgeable than us deplorable flyovers. Hence his great thoughts, like missives from God on their tablets of stone, should be obediently ahdered to by the unwashed masses.
I’m sure Scheiderman holds Eugene MacCarthy in utter contempt, but doesn’t understand he is cut from the same cloth and in fact, given enough power would be no different.
Eugene, or did you mean Joe? For the record, both are Mc, not MacCarthy
Schneiderman actually reminds me of Charlie McCarthy.
This is just the kind of shiny object that Snicker-Doodle-Man has been praying for, so he can slide sideways out of the Exxon debacle. He keeps his green constituents happy and avoids the pillory. But the 24 states that are suing the EPA have a pretty strong case. The EPA did not act according to the statute that empowered their action, and subsequently the rule should, at the very least, be returned to the EPA for reevaluation. For Sphincter-man to ask Trump to defend the plan is to ask Trump to defend something that is illegal, (but I’m sure that doesn’t worry K. Harris too much).
I’m only surprised they could find any dogcatchers to add their signatures down at the bottom there.
Climate Witch Hunt adds Maine AG…
http://www.centralmaine.com/2016/12/29/maines-attorney-general-signs-letter-to-trump-on-climate-change/
Shouldn’t this guy be serving time by now?
They’re just keeping their green credentials burnished for when they run for the presidential nomination in 2020. Nothing like being able to say ‘I told you so’ .
Bloke
You actually seeing crowds of people standing around to nominate ANY Democrat (let alone Schneiderman) for President in 2020?
Didn’t think so.
They’re all still mad at the FBI and Russia for not letting Hilary campaign in Wisconsin.
It was nice of all those “arrogant b*******s” to sign that letter. It is amazing to me that these supposed politicians are so dense that they fail to recognize that the power of the President and his Attorney General has done a 180-degree flip and that, in fact, the federal Attorney General’s Office has plenty of time to play with these idiots in court. It is one of the few instances where I hope there is a group of dedicated lawyers in the AGO dedicated to make these people miserable. Some people should just never have a good day.
See there’s the rub. The first task AG Sessions will face is replacing, demoting, retiring, or reassigning, most of the senior “dedicated lawyers in the AGO” because they’re almost certainly dedicated in the wrong direction. And nearly every Trump-nominated cabinet officer will face the same task. Housecleaning first, then on to opening for business.
True statement as far as it goes.
Further, a lot of us wonder just how much legitimate business some of these groups have (EPA, Energy…). For a lot of them, if they’re MIA (or under indictment) for a few months, who cares?
The tenth Amendment could not be stated any clearer: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
There is absolutely no powers delegated to micro-manage the production of electricity in the various states. The ability to twist logic into a pretzel in order to defy the Bill of Rights, and impose regulations on the public, that they would not vote for if given the chance, should be a disqualification for an Attorney General.
I don’t know what people where thinking when they voted for him, but they were not considering how well he would “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”!
Would that “””””….. “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” …..””””” include, against those who would seek to replace all of that entirely with sharia law.
I signed a declaration and promise to do the PP&D things when I asked for permission to emigrate to the USA. Would lying on that document constitute grounds for exclusion and deportation ??
Russell
Unfortunately the SCOTUS has allowed the Interstate Commerce clause to corrode the 10th amendment. The court has recently been pushing back (ever so gently), but more needs to be done.
Go over the list of signers and you’ll see nothing but blue states with the exception of Iowa, whose AG is likely to be replaced soon if I had to guess. While we worry about the corruption of science by the government grant process, the AG’s worry is existential. If the grant gravy train that regularly unloads its hoppers into the bank accounts of liberal advocacy groups were to ever end, so would a sizable portion of campaign funding to liberal candidates. (For a partial list, see the signers of the document above.)
That’s why the reaction to Trump’s election by liberals is being taken so violently; to liberals this is not just the global warming charade being threatened. No, worse, it’s their positions of political power, i.e., their reason for existing. A President Trump is an existential threat to the liberal order, and they know it. Expect all out political war until someone wins. This is not a situation where compromise is on the table. They thought they had it in the bag with Hillary, and then she went and blew it.
HRC ignored/forgot that she needed to win the needed electoral votes and not just the popular votes to become president. A bad political mistake.
There is NO ” popular vote “. My daughter actually makes the voter pamphlets for Santa Clara County, and she has never made up a “popular vote” pamphlet.
G
97% of climate scientists agreed she’d already won.
she just went with the consensus.
George
Unclear what you daughter is doing in Santa Clara, but Barbara’s point is correct.
The term “popular vote” is well understood and Barbara uses it correctly; the concept of electoral college just jumped up and bit a whole lot of people.
The also had the city attorney of the People’s Republic of Boulder sign the letter.
I’ll bet the United Socialist State of Santa Cruz also backed it.
Rod E: Iowa is technically not a blue state, but they love federal handouts for wind, farming, etc. They may vote “red”, but they behave “blue”.
These guys represent high crime states (Chicago is breaking records for Black murders, San Francisco is sliding into anarchy). So what’s an Atty Gen to do? Why change the subject by going after the “real criminals” – those who stand in the way of “clean power” (I thought our power was pretty clean, but that’s not it – they’re after CO2 emissions). Obama has done the same thing by attempting to change the subject after stabbing Israel in the back (only done AFTER the election, you might note) – so now he’s suddenly upset about Russia hacking the U.S. – months after he claimed it was occurring. Polticians have used this tactic forever – if criticized, change the subject.
No Supreme Court or for that matter, any other court ruling required to gut the Clean (sic) Power Plan. The basis of the Plan, as we all understand is that fictitious document, the Endangerment Finding. Remove this basis of the CPP (as well as pending carbon dioxide taxation legislation in Bobby Fergusons’ home State of Washington – I see he signed on) and the entire CPP has no teeth. Asking any court whether the EPA has authority to enforce any rule that they have developed after they have declared an ‘endangerment’ for some constituent – will not end well for those opposing such a ruling. Schneiderman knows this – the Endangerment Finding was already upheld in court, as the court simply ruled that if EPA finds an endangerment, they can create rules to eliminate the hazards under existing authorizations – in this case the Clean Air Act.
The CPP can quietly and more effectively be removed, simply by the EPA revisiting the Finding (after new blood is installed after Trump is sworn in as POTUS in January), applying science instead of IPCC fictions, and come to a correct (in my opinion) conclusion – atmospheric carbon dioxide emitted by coal-fired power plants is not an endangerment to the atmosphere, at least not enough of a danger from emissions of carbon dioxide to develop onerous requirements for power plant emission controls that effectively drive such power plant operating costs into the range of impossible.
Easy-peasy.
Regards,
MCR
Nice letter, Mr. Roberts!
REALLY liked the “(sic)” after “Clean.”
I wish Eric Worrall would do the same or use ” ” to indicate “clean in name only.” For instance, above, where, once again, Mr. Worrall acquiesces in, lends support to legitimizing, the climate hu$tler’$ deceptive nomenclature, “clean power.”
Edited for Accuracy version:
It is quite easy to prove that “clean” energy is not less polluting (in ANY sense of the word, actual pollution, such as lung-damaging airborne particulates, or imaginary “carbon” pollution) than conventional power sources and is, in many ways, MORE polluting.
No Supreme Court or for that matter, any other court ruling required to gut the Clean (sic) Power Plan.
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Agreed. The above AG letter from Dec 28 would not have been written otherwise.
Very Good Mike Roberts. The EPA did not follow the rules for Federal Evidence. Under the rules they have to conduct their own, published evaluation of the evidence and who that a rule is needed and do a cost/benefit analysis.(Not Social Cost of Carbon). The President could simply announce that the EPA did not comply with the rules for evidence and there for the Endangerment Finding is not supported, and the rule is null and void. The new administration simply wouldn’t find any endangerment, since there isn’t any to be found.
Easy-peasy.
Mike I certainly hope you’re right all the way down to the ground, but CA (under Governor Moonbeam) has just successfully regulated both breathing and farting in the Golden State. It may not be as easy as some think. I don’t believe the war is over.There seem to be a large number of loons in California and I’m pretty sure they’re going to join with New York to kick up a fuss over this. Let’s not forget Washington, Oregon, Colorado and (strangely) Arizona. The electoral college may have saved our bacon in the Presidential election, but regulation tends to follow the popular vote more closely. I’m talking about lobbies and cash.
Their final conclusion is not some apocalyptic climate event, but rather….do it to avoid lawsuits.
Those who don’t even know that they are stupid, are the most dangerous.
Isn’t there a means to apply RICO to this group?
“Really Ignorant Criminal Opportunists”?
Isn’t an official document from an elected attorney general expected to put forth facts to support the desired action stated? There are at least a half dozen factual errors in this letter. If I made false statements in the public pursuit of my occupation I would be charged in a court. I guess I am left wondering if he thinks he has told the whole truth. If so he is in a state of denial worse than if he is knowingly lying.
DMA
He only lies when his mouth (or pen) is moving.
“Solutions for cost-effectively reducing carbon pollution” With this years record crops (which upset the farmers since they received less) one would think the AGW crowd would catch a clue. Appears a two-by-four between the eyes is the only method to get their attention, the money is driving them off the cliff.
You’d think he’d be happy that the last election kept one large chunk of carbon from further polluting government.
Oh, man.
That HAD to hurt.
For these AGs, you would likely need a 4″ x 4″ to get their attention.
The incoming Trump administration should cut all discretionary federal funding to the states represented by these AG’s. And of course this should include all funding to colleges and universities for “climate change” research.
The federal government should stop state funding period. Money necessary for the support of those functions designated as federal, such as defense, should flow from the states to the feds and never return.
The entire idea that the feds should be in charge of re-distributing wealth among states is unconstitutional. There’s nothing to support the practice as I understand the powers of the federal government. Please feel free to correct me, I’m not a lawyer, it’s just my reading of the documents.
The psychopaths are beginning to unravel just like Obama (The Russians are coming The Russians are coming) and Kerry (You can have a two-state (Apartheid, Separate Not Equal Racism) solution or be Jewish, not Both!).
I beg Kerry’s educated forgiveness but being Jewish in not the triviality of a Democratic Party Card.
Anyway, popcorn a popp’n. Fun times in old D.C. a com’n.
Yee Haa 😉
Reading between lines of the UK media, regretfully it does appear that Putin is outplaying O’bama at the international politics chess game.
Also, during the last two days British government issued two notes of diplomatic ‘displeasure’ regarding Kerry’s statements.
Heh. Indeed. Watch for Putin to do something highly supportive of the JEWISH State of Israel before long. That would be a most excellent way to say “Blank — you” to Obama, et al..
Vukcevic
Unfortunately, Putin (and Iran, N Korea + others) have been doing this to Obama for years. Obama is simply not equipped for intellectual battle with a thug like Putin.
Leading from behind when hundreds of thousands are killed as a direct result of your policies is not an “A” game…and that’s just Syria.
Re: “being Jewish is not the triviality of a Democratic Party Card”
Indeed and AMEN, RBom.
Dear Israel,
The boundaries of the land delineated in the book of Joshua, given to the Israelites by God “forever” (the temporary exiles of His people which have happened were never prophesied to be permanent), were given to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (a.k.a. “Israel”). One is BORN Jewish. The land of Israel is your God-given birthright. Israel not Jewish = Israel not. And that will never be!
Please know, MANY of us U.S. believers in Jeshua as Messiah, MILLIONS of us, believe that. Many of us, moreover, would lay down our lives for the Jews if given the opportunity for that honor.
Fear not, no matter what happens, little Israel. You need not rely on human strength for your protection, neither that splintering staff, Egypt, nor powerful nations largely populated by B1b1e-honoring (e.g., Romans chapter 11 which makes it clear that “Israel” as a “race” (not only as a spiritual, “children of Abraham by faith,” nation which includes believers in Jesus) will endure until the very end) believers in Jeshua as Messiah (as well as Jews who do not believe that way, but love Israel), for
God IS with YOU, the “apple of His eye.”
Great move democrats. You already turned environmental issues into a political issue and now moved it even further to a legal issue.
Great move, that’ll help your agenda.
Matt my read on the progression goes “environmental -> religious -> legal -> political -> militant”. Remember the EPA was founded as an enforcer of congressional legislation and then later started buying guns and ammunition, forming it’s own enforcement division.
I’m not really certain about the sequence of the first three, it may have been “environmental -> legal -> religious”. But that isn’t my recollection. A case could also be made that “environmentalism” since Rachel Carson, has always been religious.
If I were Trump, I would make an example of this guy.
One well-positioned Tweet would destroy him. (He’s that wobbly)
Maybe someone should take an iPhone picture of his junk and send it to an intern?