NY Attorney General: Save the Clean Power Plan, Or Else

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and a coalition of attorneys general, supported by former Vice President Al Gore, vowed on March 29, 2016, to hold fossil fuel companies accountable if their words and deeds on climate change had crossed into illegality.
New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and a coalition of attorneys general, supported by former Vice President Al Gore, vowed on March 29, 2016, to hold fossil fuel companies accountable if their words and deeds on climate change had crossed into illegality.

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who led the failed “Attorneys General United for Clean Power” effort to harass climate skeptics, is now demanding President-elect Trump trample the rights of Republican supporters.

To me this letter demonstrates the utter overweening arrogance of politically connected climate advocates like Schneiderman.

Nobody is preventing Schneiderman from pursuing clean power in his own state. But that isn’t good enough – Schneiderman won’t be satisfied unless he messes up everyone elses life as well, either by convincing Trump to break key campaign promises, or by fulfilling his threat to litigate, to waste Trump’s time.

In my opinion, Schneiderman has no respect for the limits of his office, no respect for the right of people to disagree with him, and no respect for Trump’s overwhelming democratic mandate. The sooner Schneiderman is ejected from office, the better.

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December 30, 2016 7:29 am

Noticed Ryan signed this.

Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 7:30 am

Well, I didn’t see his sig., but his name is listed at the bottom.

Malcolm Latarche
Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 7:37 am

Not signed by Ryan just copied to him

Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 7:37 am

Nobody named Ryan signed it. A copy of the letter was sent to Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House.
The court cases the AG cited don’t seem to apply to the situation he is so concerned about.

Reply to  Chad Jessup
December 30, 2016 11:22 am

I particularly liked the cite to Marbury v Madison. When I was in law school …ummm, about 59 years ago…nope, we studied ConLaw 57 years ago…I memorized the first seven Supreme Court reporters in the expectation that it would be on the final. Even taught’em to my son and wife. (My son can still recite them; wife has passed but I’d bet she could, too). Dallas,Cranch, Wheaton, Peters, Howard, Black and Wallace. Not too sure about Howard, but I still can reel them off.
Jim B JD ’60 Georgetown Law

Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 11:18 am

Nope. He was sent a copy of the letter. Read things more closely, Kook.

Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 2:41 pm

Speaker Ryan didn’t sign this letter. He was copied. However, Paul Ryan has voted to extend the Wind Production Tax Credit – PTC (aka: Pork-To-Cronies) every time it was due to expire. Industrial wind is part & parcel of the ‘Clean Power Plan.’ Paul Ryan cries for fiscal sanity, while simultaneously doling taxpayer-funded Wind Welfare to his crony-pals – without which, the wind industry wouldn’t even exist. I am no fan of Paul Ryan.
Living in rural Western New York State, I can testify to the disaster NY AG Schneiderman and Gov. Cuomo are orchestrating here. The actual results of industrializing rural New York State with environmentally, economically & civilly-destructive industrial wind factories over the past 17 years is a far cry from Schneiderman’s energy-illiterate, greed-driven wishful thinking. “One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ~ Milton Friedman
‘Clean’ Power Plan Problem – Wind Power Destruction in New York State:

Javert Chip
Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 3:09 pm

Ryan is simply cc’ed (carbon copied) on the bottom. If Schneiderman had thought about it, he could have put your name there (without your knowledge or consent).

Reply to  kokoda
December 30, 2016 4:15 pm

He was copied on the letter. He did not sign it.

December 30, 2016 7:32 am

Noticed Ryan signed this.

Ryan did not sight it. He was sent a copy ( CC ) of the letter.

December 30, 2016 7:36 am

Schneiderman represents the epitome of a politician – a person with no skills whose sole mission is to waste the labors of honest citizens. And in that, he is the antithesis of Trump. Even if Trump believed in AGW, he would be fighting Schneiderman. Trump is not an ideologue except in one aspect. He hates incompetents who are not fired.

Reply to  philjourdan
December 30, 2016 10:35 am

He’s Jewish, what did you expect?
[A bit “prejudging” his behavior (based on his declared religion/race) are you not? .mod]

Thin Air
Reply to  David
December 30, 2016 10:57 am

That is not relevant. Please keep your prejudices (to which you are entitled, but reveal lack of thoughtfulness), in check.

Javert Chip
Reply to  David
December 30, 2016 3:12 pm

What a jerk (you). But then, that’s what I’d expect…
Can’t wait to see you defend this crap (assuming you decide to hang around long enough to debase yourself even further).

Reply to  David
December 30, 2016 3:53 pm

@mod: wouldn’t it be better to remove David’s post than indulge it by replying to it? This sort of comment has no place on WUWT and I’d be surprised if Anthony tolerated it.

Reply to  David
December 31, 2016 1:50 am

I think idiots like this ‘david’ drop these comments with the hopes that people will see them and think we all believe that $#!+

Reply to  David
December 31, 2016 7:21 am

A counter to your claim – look up any of the recent interviews Alan Dershowitz has given. They’re easy to find.

Reply to  philjourdan
December 30, 2016 2:15 pm

epitome of the new-age microcelebrity emoticon clickbait pols

Reply to  philjourdan
December 30, 2016 10:04 pm

Watch the rabid neo-Marxist scream when federal funding is removed from his little scam.

December 30, 2016 7:39 am

Our useless California AG, Kamala Harris, signed it …

Owen in GA
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2016 7:56 am

Isn’t that your soon to be useless senator? I guess replacing Boxer though it is a bit of a wash.

Jim Sweet
Reply to  Owen in GA
December 30, 2016 10:57 am

“a bit of a wash.” – More of a flush…..

george e. smith
Reply to  Owen in GA
December 30, 2016 2:03 pm

Well Harris is a boat load smarter than Boxer was at her shiniest moment. So Harris is far more dangerous; and she’s on a mission.

Brook HURD
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2016 8:09 am

Sad but true. It has been some time since our state elected a Senator who was worthy of the title. I voted for neither of the choices we were given for Senator last month and there was no write in option for Senator on my ballot.

Bryan A
Reply to  Brook HURD
December 30, 2016 10:09 am

We really need a valid “None Of The Above” option on our ballots and if None Of The Above garners the highest percentage of the vote then All running candidates are excused and all new ones must run for a secondary election.

Reply to  Brook HURD
January 1, 2017 9:30 am

Bryan A: Could get very expensive having new elections so often.

Curious George
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2016 8:39 am

Useless? You are too polite.

Timo Kuusela
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2016 11:51 am

As a Finn, Kamala Harris sounds funny to me because “kamala” is finnish and means “terrible” or something bad and frightening…

Reply to  Timo Kuusela
December 30, 2016 1:15 pm


george e. smith
Reply to  Timo Kuusela
December 30, 2016 2:07 pm

So why are you complaining? She is properly named then.
And she’s nearly as smart as the Finns; so doubly frightening.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2016 3:14 pm

You need to move.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Javert Chip
December 30, 2016 4:30 pm

Or get very serious about California politics. Most of the opposition, like me, left the state to the crazies.

Reply to  Javert Chip
December 31, 2016 5:37 pm

Javert, it’s sort of a wash in my experience. I left CA in the late 90’s and took up residence in a red state (WY) for 16 years. I made the mistake of moving to Jackson, which is actually worse than CA. If you get far enough away from there, WY isn’t too bad. People are reasonable and they mostly mind their own business. But it can get a bit nasty even in the outback. We had a town council in Lincoln county that tried to prohibit “adult entertainment” (strippers) in one of the local watering holes and even though I’m not a big fan of strippers, I had to show up and vote down the ordinance on principal. That sort of thing doesn’t happen much in CA.
The folks out there spend a bit more time regulating stuff like that than they do in CA. They aren’t a welfare state and their roads are in better shape, but they do have a lot to say about what most of us think of as our private lives.
Beyond that, it’s awful cold most of the time in WY. Great deer and elk hunting though. If we could just get the Californian’s out of the state it would be a much nicer place. The taxes are horrible. Nobody wants Californians though. I’m not a native but I’ve lived there on and off for about 50 years. For some weird reason California attracts collectivists. I don’t know why.

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2016 5:46 pm

Kamala Harris will soon be a U.S. senator who has refused to answer a Congressional subpoena.Can the House subpoena a member of the Senate? Or has the clock run out on her subpoena?

Reply to  Barbara
December 31, 2016 9:37 am

Wikipedia: ‘Contempt of Congress’
Scroll down to: ‘Partial list of those held in contempt since 1975’
Note the VIPs who were held in Contempt of Congress for not complying to subpoenas and the results.

Reply to  Barbara
December 31, 2016 12:47 pm

Congressional Research Service, April, 2014
‘Congress’s Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: A Sketch
Includes Supreme Court decisions and a section on Senate powers.

Reply to  Barbara
December 31, 2016 6:33 pm

According to Wikipedia, Kamala Harris got the California Democratic Party endorsement and Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez, D. did not.

Reply to  Barbara
December 31, 2016 9:20 pm

United States Senate election in California, 2016
Scroll down to: Endorsements for Kamala Harris & Loretta Sanchez the two candidates for the U.S. Senate on the November, 2016 California ballot. Both Democrats.
Kamala Harris also endorsed by Gov.Brown among others.

December 30, 2016 7:53 am

From the letter: “…inflicted by unchecked carbon pollution: …, a record deluge on the Front Range in Colorado, …”
That’s not what NOAA says.
“There’s clear evidence that overall, our greenhouse gas emissions are making the planet warmer and moister, but we found such climate factors had little appreciable effect on the frequency of heavy 5-day rainfall events in this area during September,” said Martin Hoerling, a research meteorologist at NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colorado, and lead author of the new study, which also included researchers from the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) and NASA. In fact, the study suggests that in this region, the likelihood of heavy rainfall events may have slightly decreased because of human-induced climate change.

Janice Moore
Reply to  kmann
December 30, 2016 10:46 am

(good point about the letter’s twisted version of the AGWer’s current assertions about AGW, kmann)
But, NOAA still got in the junk science-based propaganda about human CO2. Good ol’ NOAA. Led and, in many cases staffed, too, by such fine, upstanding, scientists — NOT!
There’s clear evidence … emissions are making” — this is, unless Mr. Hoerling is so ignorant as to be unqualified for his position, a LIE. There is ZERO evidence of such causation. Conjecture is not evidence.

Tom Halla
December 30, 2016 7:55 am

Eric Schneiderman should be in the role of defendant under the various KKK laws for abusing his position to deny civil rights to various people who disagree with his political supporters.

December 30, 2016 7:57 am

The first part probably took them the longest to write, to “Donald J. Trump, President-Elect of the United States of America.” (*shaking hands*)
The rest of the letter they could copy-and-paste with some begging thrown in for good measure.

December 30, 2016 8:01 am

Like all progressives and self styled “elites” Schneiderman is certain that he is smarter, better educated, and more knowledgeable than us deplorable flyovers. Hence his great thoughts, like missives from God on their tablets of stone, should be obediently ahdered to by the unwashed masses.

Reply to  Cube
December 30, 2016 2:05 pm

I’m sure Scheiderman holds Eugene MacCarthy in utter contempt, but doesn’t understand he is cut from the same cloth and in fact, given enough power would be no different.

Dave Magill
Reply to  Grant
December 30, 2016 3:44 pm

Eugene, or did you mean Joe? For the record, both are Mc, not MacCarthy

Reply to  Grant
December 31, 2016 7:23 am

Schneiderman actually reminds me of Charlie McCarthy.

Mark from the Midwest
December 30, 2016 8:12 am

This is just the kind of shiny object that Snicker-Doodle-Man has been praying for, so he can slide sideways out of the Exxon debacle. He keeps his green constituents happy and avoids the pillory. But the 24 states that are suing the EPA have a pretty strong case. The EPA did not act according to the statute that empowered their action, and subsequently the rule should, at the very least, be returned to the EPA for reevaluation. For Sphincter-man to ask Trump to defend the plan is to ask Trump to defend something that is illegal, (but I’m sure that doesn’t worry K. Harris too much).

December 30, 2016 8:27 am

I’m only surprised they could find any dogcatchers to add their signatures down at the bottom there.

December 30, 2016 8:38 am
December 30, 2016 8:50 am

Shouldn’t this guy be serving time by now?

Bloke down the pub
December 30, 2016 8:51 am

They’re just keeping their green credentials burnished for when they run for the presidential nomination in 2020. Nothing like being able to say ‘I told you so’ .

Javert Chip
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
December 30, 2016 3:21 pm

You actually seeing crowds of people standing around to nominate ANY Democrat (let alone Schneiderman) for President in 2020?
Didn’t think so.
They’re all still mad at the FBI and Russia for not letting Hilary campaign in Wisconsin.

Ernest Bush
December 30, 2016 8:51 am

It was nice of all those “arrogant b*******s” to sign that letter. It is amazing to me that these supposed politicians are so dense that they fail to recognize that the power of the President and his Attorney General has done a 180-degree flip and that, in fact, the federal Attorney General’s Office has plenty of time to play with these idiots in court. It is one of the few instances where I hope there is a group of dedicated lawyers in the AGO dedicated to make these people miserable. Some people should just never have a good day.

Rod Everson
Reply to  Ernest Bush
December 30, 2016 9:00 am

See there’s the rub. The first task AG Sessions will face is replacing, demoting, retiring, or reassigning, most of the senior “dedicated lawyers in the AGO” because they’re almost certainly dedicated in the wrong direction. And nearly every Trump-nominated cabinet officer will face the same task. Housecleaning first, then on to opening for business.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Rod Everson
December 30, 2016 3:27 pm

True statement as far as it goes.
Further, a lot of us wonder just how much legitimate business some of these groups have (EPA, Energy…). For a lot of them, if they’re MIA (or under indictment) for a few months, who cares?

Russell R.
December 30, 2016 8:53 am

The tenth Amendment could not be stated any clearer: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
There is absolutely no powers delegated to micro-manage the production of electricity in the various states. The ability to twist logic into a pretzel in order to defy the Bill of Rights, and impose regulations on the public, that they would not vote for if given the chance, should be a disqualification for an Attorney General.
I don’t know what people where thinking when they voted for him, but they were not considering how well he would “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”!

george e. smith
Reply to  Russell R.
December 30, 2016 2:14 pm

Would that “””””….. “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” …..””””” include, against those who would seek to replace all of that entirely with sharia law.
I signed a declaration and promise to do the PP&D things when I asked for permission to emigrate to the USA. Would lying on that document constitute grounds for exclusion and deportation ??

Javert Chip
Reply to  Russell R.
December 30, 2016 3:30 pm

Unfortunately the SCOTUS has allowed the Interstate Commerce clause to corrode the 10th amendment. The court has recently been pushing back (ever so gently), but more needs to be done.

Rod Everson
December 30, 2016 8:54 am

Go over the list of signers and you’ll see nothing but blue states with the exception of Iowa, whose AG is likely to be replaced soon if I had to guess. While we worry about the corruption of science by the government grant process, the AG’s worry is existential. If the grant gravy train that regularly unloads its hoppers into the bank accounts of liberal advocacy groups were to ever end, so would a sizable portion of campaign funding to liberal candidates. (For a partial list, see the signers of the document above.)
That’s why the reaction to Trump’s election by liberals is being taken so violently; to liberals this is not just the global warming charade being threatened. No, worse, it’s their positions of political power, i.e., their reason for existing. A President Trump is an existential threat to the liberal order, and they know it. Expect all out political war until someone wins. This is not a situation where compromise is on the table. They thought they had it in the bag with Hillary, and then she went and blew it.

Reply to  Rod Everson
December 30, 2016 1:15 pm

HRC ignored/forgot that she needed to win the needed electoral votes and not just the popular votes to become president. A bad political mistake.

george e. smith
Reply to  Barbara
December 30, 2016 2:18 pm

There is NO ” popular vote “. My daughter actually makes the voter pamphlets for Santa Clara County, and she has never made up a “popular vote” pamphlet.

Reply to  Barbara
December 30, 2016 3:31 pm

97% of climate scientists agreed she’d already won.
she just went with the consensus.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Barbara
December 30, 2016 3:37 pm

Unclear what you daughter is doing in Santa Clara, but Barbara’s point is correct.
The term “popular vote” is well understood and Barbara uses it correctly; the concept of electoral college just jumped up and bit a whole lot of people.

Reply to  Rod Everson
December 30, 2016 3:26 pm

The also had the city attorney of the People’s Republic of Boulder sign the letter.

Reply to  isthatright
December 31, 2016 5:56 pm

I’ll bet the United Socialist State of Santa Cruz also backed it.

Reply to  Rod Everson
January 1, 2017 9:35 am

Rod E: Iowa is technically not a blue state, but they love federal handouts for wind, farming, etc. They may vote “red”, but they behave “blue”.

December 30, 2016 8:55 am

These guys represent high crime states (Chicago is breaking records for Black murders, San Francisco is sliding into anarchy). So what’s an Atty Gen to do? Why change the subject by going after the “real criminals” – those who stand in the way of “clean power” (I thought our power was pretty clean, but that’s not it – they’re after CO2 emissions). Obama has done the same thing by attempting to change the subject after stabbing Israel in the back (only done AFTER the election, you might note) – so now he’s suddenly upset about Russia hacking the U.S. – months after he claimed it was occurring. Polticians have used this tactic forever – if criticized, change the subject.

Michael C. Roberts
December 30, 2016 9:13 am

No Supreme Court or for that matter, any other court ruling required to gut the Clean (sic) Power Plan. The basis of the Plan, as we all understand is that fictitious document, the Endangerment Finding. Remove this basis of the CPP (as well as pending carbon dioxide taxation legislation in Bobby Fergusons’ home State of Washington – I see he signed on) and the entire CPP has no teeth. Asking any court whether the EPA has authority to enforce any rule that they have developed after they have declared an ‘endangerment’ for some constituent – will not end well for those opposing such a ruling. Schneiderman knows this – the Endangerment Finding was already upheld in court, as the court simply ruled that if EPA finds an endangerment, they can create rules to eliminate the hazards under existing authorizations – in this case the Clean Air Act.
The CPP can quietly and more effectively be removed, simply by the EPA revisiting the Finding (after new blood is installed after Trump is sworn in as POTUS in January), applying science instead of IPCC fictions, and come to a correct (in my opinion) conclusion – atmospheric carbon dioxide emitted by coal-fired power plants is not an endangerment to the atmosphere, at least not enough of a danger from emissions of carbon dioxide to develop onerous requirements for power plant emission controls that effectively drive such power plant operating costs into the range of impossible.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Michael C. Roberts
December 30, 2016 10:39 am

Nice letter, Mr. Roberts!
REALLY liked the “(sic)” after “Clean.”
I wish Eric Worrall would do the same or use ” ” to indicate “clean in name only.” For instance, above, where, once again, Mr. Worrall acquiesces in, lends support to legitimizing, the climate hu$tler’$ deceptive nomenclature, “clean power.”
Edited for Accuracy version:

clean“clean” power

It is quite easy to prove that “clean” energy is not less polluting (in ANY sense of the word, actual pollution, such as lung-damaging airborne particulates, or imaginary “carbon” pollution) than conventional power sources and is, in many ways, MORE polluting.

Reply to  Michael C. Roberts
December 30, 2016 10:52 am

No Supreme Court or for that matter, any other court ruling required to gut the Clean (sic) Power Plan.
Agreed. The above AG letter from Dec 28 would not have been written otherwise.

Reply to  Michael C. Roberts
December 30, 2016 1:09 pm

Very Good Mike Roberts. The EPA did not follow the rules for Federal Evidence. Under the rules they have to conduct their own, published evaluation of the evidence and who that a rule is needed and do a cost/benefit analysis.(Not Social Cost of Carbon). The President could simply announce that the EPA did not comply with the rules for evidence and there for the Endangerment Finding is not supported, and the rule is null and void. The new administration simply wouldn’t find any endangerment, since there isn’t any to be found.

Reply to  Michael C. Roberts
December 31, 2016 6:06 pm

Mike I certainly hope you’re right all the way down to the ground, but CA (under Governor Moonbeam) has just successfully regulated both breathing and farting in the Golden State. It may not be as easy as some think. I don’t believe the war is over.There seem to be a large number of loons in California and I’m pretty sure they’re going to join with New York to kick up a fuss over this. Let’s not forget Washington, Oregon, Colorado and (strangely) Arizona. The electoral college may have saved our bacon in the Presidential election, but regulation tends to follow the popular vote more closely. I’m talking about lobbies and cash.

December 30, 2016 9:29 am

Their final conclusion is not some apocalyptic climate event, but rather….do it to avoid lawsuits.
Those who don’t even know that they are stupid, are the most dangerous.

Reply to  stock
December 30, 2016 9:36 am

Isn’t there a means to apply RICO to this group?

Reply to  smalliot
December 30, 2016 10:39 am

“Really Ignorant Criminal Opportunists”?

December 30, 2016 9:32 am

Isn’t an official document from an elected attorney general expected to put forth facts to support the desired action stated? There are at least a half dozen factual errors in this letter. If I made false statements in the public pursuit of my occupation I would be charged in a court. I guess I am left wondering if he thinks he has told the whole truth. If so he is in a state of denial worse than if he is knowingly lying.

Javert Chip
Reply to  DMA
December 30, 2016 3:39 pm

He only lies when his mouth (or pen) is moving.

December 30, 2016 9:35 am

“Solutions for cost-effectively reducing carbon pollution” With this years record crops (which upset the farmers since they received less) one would think the AGW crowd would catch a clue. Appears a two-by-four between the eyes is the only method to get their attention, the money is driving them off the cliff.

Gunga Din
Reply to  smalliot
December 30, 2016 2:12 pm

“Solutions for cost-effectively reducing carbon pollution”

You’d think he’d be happy that the last election kept one large chunk of carbon from further polluting government.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Gunga Din
December 30, 2016 3:40 pm

Oh, man.
That HAD to hurt.

Reply to  smalliot
December 30, 2016 3:30 pm

For these AGs, you would likely need a 4″ x 4″ to get their attention.

December 30, 2016 9:39 am

The incoming Trump administration should cut all discretionary federal funding to the states represented by these AG’s. And of course this should include all funding to colleges and universities for “climate change” research.

Reply to  jayhd
December 31, 2016 6:19 pm

The federal government should stop state funding period. Money necessary for the support of those functions designated as federal, such as defense, should flow from the states to the feds and never return.
The entire idea that the feds should be in charge of re-distributing wealth among states is unconstitutional. There’s nothing to support the practice as I understand the powers of the federal government. Please feel free to correct me, I’m not a lawyer, it’s just my reading of the documents.

December 30, 2016 9:46 am

The psychopaths are beginning to unravel just like Obama (The Russians are coming The Russians are coming) and Kerry (You can have a two-state (Apartheid, Separate Not Equal Racism) solution or be Jewish, not Both!).
I beg Kerry’s educated forgiveness but being Jewish in not the triviality of a Democratic Party Card.
Anyway, popcorn a popp’n. Fun times in old D.C. a com’n.
Yee Haa 😉

Reply to  RBom
December 30, 2016 10:26 am

Reading between lines of the UK media, regretfully it does appear that Putin is outplaying O’bama at the international politics chess game.
Also, during the last two days British government issued two notes of diplomatic ‘displeasure’ regarding Kerry’s statements.

Janice Moore
Reply to  vukcevic
December 30, 2016 10:49 am

Heh. Indeed. Watch for Putin to do something highly supportive of the JEWISH State of Israel before long. That would be a most excellent way to say “Blank — you” to Obama, et al..

Javert Chip
Reply to  vukcevic
December 30, 2016 4:02 pm

Unfortunately, Putin (and Iran, N Korea + others) have been doing this to Obama for years. Obama is simply not equipped for intellectual battle with a thug like Putin.
Leading from behind when hundreds of thousands are killed as a direct result of your policies is not an “A” game…and that’s just Syria.

Janice Moore
Reply to  RBom
December 30, 2016 11:11 am

Re: “being Jewish is not the triviality of a Democratic Party Card”
Indeed and AMEN, RBom.
Dear Israel,
The boundaries of the land delineated in the book of Joshua, given to the Israelites by God “forever” (the temporary exiles of His people which have happened were never prophesied to be permanent), were given to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (a.k.a. “Israel”). One is BORN Jewish. The land of Israel is your God-given birthright. Israel not Jewish = Israel not. And that will never be!
Please know, MANY of us U.S. believers in Jeshua as Messiah, MILLIONS of us, believe that. Many of us, moreover, would lay down our lives for the Jews if given the opportunity for that honor.
Fear not, no matter what happens, little Israel. You need not rely on human strength for your protection, neither that splintering staff, Egypt, nor powerful nations largely populated by B1b1e-honoring (e.g., Romans chapter 11 which makes it clear that “Israel” as a “race” (not only as a spiritual, “children of Abraham by faith,” nation which includes believers in Jesus) will endure until the very end) believers in Jeshua as Messiah (as well as Jews who do not believe that way, but love Israel), for
God IS with YOU, the “apple of His eye.”

December 30, 2016 9:48 am

Great move democrats. You already turned environmental issues into a political issue and now moved it even further to a legal issue.
Great move, that’ll help your agenda.

Reply to  Matthew W
December 31, 2016 6:30 pm

Matt my read on the progression goes “environmental -> religious -> legal -> political -> militant”. Remember the EPA was founded as an enforcer of congressional legislation and then later started buying guns and ammunition, forming it’s own enforcement division.
I’m not really certain about the sequence of the first three, it may have been “environmental -> legal -> religious”. But that isn’t my recollection. A case could also be made that “environmentalism” since Rachel Carson, has always been religious.

Joel Snider
December 30, 2016 9:48 am

If I were Trump, I would make an example of this guy.

Reply to  Joel Snider
December 30, 2016 10:40 am

One well-positioned Tweet would destroy him. (He’s that wobbly)

Reply to  RockyRoad
December 31, 2016 6:32 pm

Maybe someone should take an iPhone picture of his junk and send it to an intern?

Barbara Skolaut
December 30, 2016 10:50 am

Schneiderman: “Save the Clean Power Plan, or else.”
Trump: “Or else, what?”
Schneiderman: “We’ll all pitch a Lefty fit and have a public meltdown!”
Trump: “Your term are acceptable.”

December 30, 2016 10:59 am

“…effort to harass climate skeptics”
You miss another opportunity to inform the sleepy heads what people are actually skeptical of, Eric . . which sure as hell is not climate. How ’bout climate model skeptic, or anything that conveys something other than idiots? . . fingers got tired? ; )

December 30, 2016 11:21 am

As I read the AG’s argument, Trump is not supposed to take action to stop the litigation, otherwise the AG’s will create new litigation.
In other words, Trump has nothing to lose by taking action. The very worst that can happen is that things end up where they are now, in litigation. With one important difference:
By Trump taking action, the CPP will be dead until and unless the AG’s succeed in their litigation. And given a new Justice Department and new EPA, along with a slew of Republican governors, legislators, and congress, the AG’s will find litigating in favor of a dead CPP just got a whole lot harder.
In effect the state AG’s will find themselves in the position of trying to tell the feds what the federal laws must be.

Janice Moore
December 30, 2016 11:43 am
Mike McMillan
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 30, 2016 4:44 pm

They’re serving broccoli at the grown-ups table, kid.

Walter Sobchak
December 30, 2016 11:45 am

I think Trump should do NY and California a favor. He should make sure that they don’t contribute to CAGW by emitting CO2. He should ban shipments of fossil fuels to those states, and disconnect them from any power grid that relies on coal generated electricity.
Do you think that would make them happy?

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
December 30, 2016 1:57 pm

…we’d never know: their lines of communication wouldn’t function without all that fossil-fuel-generated electricity.

Reply to  RockyRoad
December 30, 2016 2:01 pm

…and, I might add, we’d never see them since their automobiles and planes wouldn’t work without fuel and wouldn’t take them anywhere.
(The theorem of limits is my favorite mathematical construct.)

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
December 30, 2016 3:39 pm

California already has sufficient energy resources (oil and gas) in spite of the fact that Guv Moonbeam (also known as CowFart Brown) is trying to shut down as much energy production as possible. Shutting down all fossil fuel shipments into the state would make the libtards who vote for 60% of the morons in Sacramento consider the fact that they need to drill or leave their cars at home and for those in Sac City, turn off their AC units. I would buy tickets to see the legislature working in the capitol without AC in the summer. 110 F in the shade makes for a very warm building.

Reply to  isthatright
December 31, 2016 6:38 pm

Oh yeah. I’d buy that ticket. + 100

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 1, 2017 9:38 am

Walter: Agreed. If people think coal, oil and gasoline are wrong and bad, we should not be enabling them to participate in the use thereof.

December 30, 2016 12:45 pm

There is no such thing as “Clean” power. The manufacturing ( mining, smelting of ores) alone requires constant energy. Energy that wind/solar/ and other so called clean power sources just do not have. Then add in the destruction of the environment these projects do while being put in place? I wont even start on the recycling costs.Even nuclear is not completely green although those cost are largely offset by the length of time a nuke will provide clean power.
These people, as others have said, are just trying to keep the gravy train going and most cases that will only be the lawyers that will be in courts for decades. Seeing that this AG is a lawyer he is just preparing for his future after he is kicked out of office and assuring his buddies will be as well after they get kicked out!
What is so sickening with all of this is you and I will be paying them as they will be fighting governments.
I propose none of these scum should be allowed to practise law for 10 years after they leave office and if they lose their cases they should be paying all court fees.

John Morrison
December 30, 2016 12:51 pm

As stated in the article, NY is free to continue with their plans. After they are “successful”, they can laugh at the other states. Of course, we are free to laugh at them. Without any federal subsidies, I think the rest of the US will be doing the laughing.

R.S. Brown
December 30, 2016 1:09 pm

The letter from the confederation of Attorneys General reads like a “brush back”
pitch done up in legalese.
These respectable clowns are used to playing softball in what has suddenly become
a game of political, legal and perhaps scientific hardball.
Please pass the popcorn…

Warren Latham
December 30, 2016 1:12 pm

The “letter”, really OUGHT to have started …
“Our states and local governments are on the front lines of the Global Warming Gravy Train”.

Javert Chip
December 30, 2016 3:05 pm

For Pete’s sake – how hard can “public service” be?
So Schneiderman wants to spend his time dictating to the President of the United States…about power plants?
What ever happened to cleaning up the corruption in Albany?
Hell, I’d be happy to see the NY AG just go back to $5,000/trick hookers. Where’s Spitzer when we need him?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Javert Chip
December 31, 2016 12:34 pm

It must be remembered that NY gets just about all of it’s power from the power plant at Niagara Falls…built long before Schneiderman was born or “The Greens” would have allowed such a “violation” of Ma’ Gaia.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Gunga Din
December 31, 2016 3:17 pm

“was born or “The Greens” would have allowed such a “violation” of Ma’ Gaia.”
Should be:
“was born or “The Greens” would NOThave allowed such a “violation” of Ma’ Gaia.

December 30, 2016 3:44 pm

The motto of the State of New York is The Empire State. I have found that accurately describes the attitude of everyone associated with state government.

December 30, 2016 4:56 pm

Per Mr. Trump’s behalf:
Dear New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman et al:
Eat chit and die. Your progtard Cargo Cult “Science” is gone without any more federal taxpayers’ funding, and all your violations of individual rights are now to be treated as criminal henceforth. U.S. Marshals will be visiting your offices forthwith.
Gotta be something in the RICO statutes which apply to you. Hell, of you goons are Democrats, ain’tcha?
Donald J. Trump

December 30, 2016 5:30 pm

That sure is a nice presidency you have there. Real shame if anything happened to it.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Greg
December 30, 2016 8:35 pm

I find it disturbingly typical that Eric Schneiderman is not being held responsible for the organized crime he and his connected cohorts tried to commit (using the public’s money).against certain energy industries which have been targeted for neutralization in order to clear the path for a “renewables” industry to replace them. Why do these folks reek of an agenda that resorts to going “hook or crook” to gain wealth and power?

Pop Piasa
December 30, 2016 9:12 pm

A jest about attorneys in general:
Our story unfolds in the “end of the world” after-life, where a well-intentioned civil engineer is dispatched to Hades because of a Clerical error (an error committed by a Cleric).
Finding things in “a hell of a shape”, he begins design and implementation of improvements to the infrastructure which result in drastic decreases of the torture level experienced by the damned.
Soon, God noticed that the weeping and gnashing of teeth had subsided and discovered that the engineer was placed mistakenly, so He demanded that Satan release him to cross the chasm to heaven.
Satan replied: “You can’t make me do that”.
God countered: “I’ll see you in court!”
The Devil grinned and said: “Yeah, right… and where are you going to find a Lawyer?”

December 30, 2016 9:41 pm

At the risk of offending darn near everybody, Schneidermann’s threat reminds me a lot of Cleavon Little’s threat to shoot the new sheriff in Blazing Saddles. THe only bummer on the clip is that they cut out the part where he observes that he is so smart and they are so dumb – kind of like the dem Attys General. Schneidermann and his co-conspirators need to be careful as there is no statute of limitations on civil RICO in a lot of states, states that he and his cronies are targeting. Cheers –

Gary Pearse
December 30, 2016 10:05 pm

Isn’t there still a case for malfeasance being probed by a Senate committee against these jerks for their frivolous attacks against fossil fuel companies and conservative think tanks? Their ignoring subpoenas sets a terrible precedent if allowed. Also probes of NOAA’s Karlization of temp to kill the Pause and the Rico climateersled by Shukla- what became of these?
Another thing about ‘Russian hacks’ of DNC and Podesta. I’m pleased that the Trump team is waiting to see the actual evidence. I’m afraid I don’t accept the reports until they are thoroughly reviewed. I smelled something fishy when, not once, was the high possibility of an inside job by a disgruntled Sanders supporter considered by the investigators and media. Climategate ring any bell’s? The rot, gross dishonesty and corruption in the Democratic party is going to take several election cycles and some funerals to clean them up. When they come back in about 2028, they will have rehabilitated themselves. Their global constituency will be no more.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Gary Pearse
December 30, 2016 10:21 pm

Gary, could the whole Russian claim be just part of their diversion of blame from their own failure to seduce the free thinkers of the USA with media propagated propaganda?

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Pop Piasa
December 31, 2016 9:45 am

That’s my thinking. Climategate emails release was an inside job but the dishonest scoundrels of the neomarxbrothers still insist it was a hack.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
January 3, 2017 11:18 am

Their refusal to consider it an inside job is a large part of why they have not been able to solve the case yet.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
December 30, 2016 11:06 pm

A hypothetical: let’s assume that Trump666’s campaign chief falls for a Russian-originated phishing scam and releases his passwords. They find emails outlining massive corruption, incitement and recruitment of political violence, and other sordid stuff. It appears on wikileaks.
How many liberals would be calling for the result of the election to be set aside on those grounds?

December 30, 2016 10:46 pm

Is Schneiderman a registered lobbyist because he sure sounds like the mouth piece for someone .
He must have blind copied his bosses .
The little clique of AG’s for Clean Out Tax Payers Wallets disintegrated before it got lift off .
Mr. Trump is not going to be bullied by the same little group of jack asses who tried the
“when did Exxon know ” crap .
The Demo Greens lost the election for many reasons including they don’t connect with voter interests because they are to busy preaching and regulating . People know the chicken little global warming fear mongers have been were promoting a one sided overblown hot air scam for over a decade . The only thing that saved the hoax for a while was the Obama $$ debt machine .
If the Obama Administration had put a fraction of the hundreds of $$ Billions wasted on the global warning hoax they might have made some progress on inner city social issues , infrastructure , crime and education.
Instead the Washington Swamp pee’d $ billions away to bankroll failed corporate welfare bums and to enrich insiders including the UN .
Rant on Schneiderman . It must suck to lose .

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Amber
December 31, 2016 9:56 am

The Snideman will soon have himself measured. Maybe even measured for a spiffy orange jumpsuit. I’m sure he’s guilty of something. Also, imagine an idiot one day probing Trump’s charity foundation and the next begging him to support the ‘clean energy plan. This little weasel is stupid and has no dignity. Is that a crime for an AG ?

December 30, 2016 11:03 pm

So if the AGs are so “united” on this topic, why are there 60 of them on stage (at least the Lower 58 plus HI)?

Reply to  Andrew
January 1, 2017 6:19 pm

Why are there not

michael hart
December 31, 2016 7:40 am

“Clean” power is probably going to meet raw power in the not-too-distant future.

December 31, 2016 10:28 am

January 20, 2017
Memo to: Eric Schneiderman
From: President Donald Trump
GET STUFFED! That is all.

December 31, 2016 4:44 pm

“In my opinion, Schneiderman has no respect for the limits of his office, no respect for the right of people to disagree with him, and no respect for Trump’s overwhelming democratic mandate.”
In short, a typical snowflake ‘demo-KratZ’ operative!

January 1, 2017 6:24 am

The single biggest contribution to clean energy globally has been fracking / horizontal drilling in the USA.
The greens can’t cope with this fact, so they deny it, because it exposes their own hypocricy and the contradictions inherent in their narrative.

Brook HURD
Reply to  ptolemy2
January 1, 2017 9:55 am

Indeed, the greenblob answer to the success of fracking is to deny, discredit and ban. They run from facts and use cherry picked anecdotes to support their unproven hypotheses. When you counter greenblob unsupportable positions with emperical data, they resort to logical fallacies such as appeal to authority, ad hominem and the cum hoc fallacy.

January 1, 2017 10:22 am

The entire letter is interesting. The EPA will have a new director, the AG will change out and yet somehow these AGss think nothing will change. And, threatening Trump with more litigation seems silly—I’m sure a business man such as Trump has seen his share of lawsuits. It’s not something that scares him. Of course, that’s all the AGs have so that’s what they use.

January 1, 2017 2:41 pm

Eric summarizes: “In my opinion, Schneiderman has no respect for the limits of his office, no respect for the right of people to disagree with him, and no respect for Trump’s overwhelming democratic mandate. The sooner Schneiderman is ejected from office, the better.
“Trump’s overwhelming democratic mandate”? Anyone who lost the popular vote doesn’t have an overwhelming democratic mandate, no matter what the vote in the Electoral College was. Trump’s mandate is constitutional.
The EPA’s Clean Power Plan is being challenged in court by Attorneys General from Republican states. Schneiderman and other Democratic AGs are urging the Trump administration to defend the EPA’s plan in court. Why should one set of AGs be allowed to challenge the EPA and another set of AGs be showing “no respect for the limits of [their] office, no respect for the right of people to disagree with him” if they disagree.
I don’t agree with the EPA’s plan. I didn’t think Schneidermann and the other AGs had any right to go after Exxon and organizations that disagree with the consensus on CAGW. Nor do I support Eric’s intolerance for those who don’t agree with his positions.

January 2, 2017 2:14 am

“To me this letter demonstrates the utter overweening arrogance of politically connected climate advocates like Schneiderman.”
Of course. Just think of the millions of stakeholders in the alarmist movement, and all of the future moves they’ve built into their plans. Just as the DNC is unwilling to admit they have a problem these folks will hang on till the bitter end. And even if, for some reason, we were to slip into another little ice age, they’d still be arguing that it was human-indiced and the same prescription is needed—more political power, control of emissions with high taxes, and an assault on anyone who might disagree, as being unworthy to speak.
This is about control, not science. Until we accept this fact we will continue to be bewildered by such people. Those who seek truth are not welcome, only the narrative matters.

Johann Wundersamer
January 6, 2017 1:28 am

In my opinion, Schneiderman has no respect for the limits of his office, no respect for the right of people to disagree with him, and no respect for Trump’s overwhelming democratic mandate. The sooner Schneiderman is ejected from office, the better.
d’accord – Hans

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