Homogenization of Temperature Data By the Bureau of Meteorology

Guest essay by Brendan Godwin

Background

I worked for Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology – BOM for 2 years from 1973 to 1975. I was trained in weather observation and general meteorology. I spent 1 year observing Australia’s weather and 1 year observing the weather at Australia’s Antarctic station at Mawson.

As part of it’s Antarctic program, Australia drills ice cores at Law Dome near it’s Casey station. On our return journey in 1975 we repatriated a large number of ice cores for scientific analysis. The globe’s weather and climate records are stored in these ice cores for the past 1 million years approximately.

Australia’s Antarctic program went by the name of Australian National Antarctic Research Expedition or ANARE for short. This is now known as Australian Antarctic Division or AAD. Returned expeditions formed a club called the ANARE Club of which I have been a member since 1975. Members have many functions and reunions and they have a reunion dinner every year. At this dinner there has always been guest speakers from Australia’s Antarctic Division. These guest speakers are usually someone of the caliber of the Divisions Chief Scientist or the Operations Manager and the talks are designed to keep members updated on the Antarctic scientific program.

The annual dinner is also a place where members keep in touch with each other and network and this communication continues throughout the year via email.

The International Panel on Climate Change – IPCC

The IPCC was created by and is a joint 50/50 partnership between the World Meteorological Organisation – WMO and United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). It has extremely narrow terms of reference in that it’s role is to determine that humans are causing global warming. In that regard it is only looking at human induced forcings over the past 150 years, just to make sure it reaches that result. That makes it a political body with a political agenda.

World Meteorological Organisation – WMO

The WMO has structurally changed since 1974. Today it is headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland. When I went through training with the BOM, the WMO had a shared global headquarters between Melbourne, New York, Moscow and London. I don’t know when this structure changed. Australia had a leading role in the WMO and was a dissemination point for weather data.

Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology – BOM

BOM’s headquarters are in Melbourne. Australia has claim to 5.9 million square kilometres, about 42% of Antarctica. That claim is on hold while the Antarctic Treaty is in place. On the Antarctic continent Australia has 3 full time stations, Mawson, Davis and Casey, as well as a 4th, Macquarie Is., in the Southern Ocean. BOM has a full time presence on all these stations. Weather data is collected throughout the day and night at all these stations. At Mawson in 1974, we collected not only our own data but all the weather data from Davis, the Japanese station at Syowa and the Russian station at Molodezhnaya. Mawson sent all this data to the Overseas Telecommunications Commission – OTC in Sydney where it was forwarded on to BOM in Melbourne. A second Russian station, Mirny, was collected by Casey and forwarded on the BOM Melbourne via OTC.

BOM used this data, in conjunction with all the observational data obtained from all the weather stations and observational points throughout Australia, as part of Australia’s weather maps and forecasting. Additionally, Melbourne was the WMO distribution point for all weather data in our region. BOM Melbourne collected and collated all this data and forwarded it on to the WMO.

Temperature Data and IPCC’s Climate Change

In 2013 I attended an ANARE Midwinter Dinner – MWD. Australian Antarctic Division – AAD’s Acting Chief Scientist Dr Martin Riddle was our guest speaker at this function. I met with him over canapes before the dinner and spoke with him for about 20 minutes. I tried to get a sneak preview what his talk was going to be about. He said he was Australia’s lead scientist on the IPCC and, aside from giving us an update on the scientific program in the Antarctic, he was going to talk about climate and global warming. I asked him, were we not in an interglacial warm period in the 100,000 year Milankovitch Cycle and wasn’t all this current warming natural? His jaw dropped and was aghast. Our discussion ended there and he raced off not looking too happy. I couldn’t help but getting the feeling that I wasn’t supposed to know anything about the Milankovitch Cycles. It seemed like no one was supposed to know this.

It seems apparent that we all are just supposed to listen to what the IPCC are telling us and don’t ask questions. So what are the IPCC telling us?

The IPCC have produced 102 climate models to predict our future climate. The world’s meteorological organizations use weather models to forecast and predict weather and have been for many years. They have proved to be very accurate over 4 days and reasonably accurate over a week. The IPCC’s climate models are notoriously inaccurate. We’ve had these models now for some 30 years and we now have 30 years of data to compare them against. They are not even close to accurate.

Dr Roy Spencer is a meteorologist, Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer on NASA’s Aqua satellite. At an International Conference on Climate Change in his presentation he said referring to the IPCC models below.

Climate models are not even forecasting. Those curves on the chart are hindcasts.¹ They already knew what the answer was but still can’t get them right.

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In spite of this, the IPCC seem adamant that there is nothing wrong with their models and it must be the data that is not right. Roy Spencer said: There’s no comparison. The IPCC are now hinting, maybe we shouldn’t trust the observations, let’s just trust the models.

Temperature Adjustments – Homogenization

One has to be excused for being skeptical here but it does look prima facie like the IPCC has asked their 50% partner, the WMO, to give them some temperature data that more closely matches their models. At least 3 of the WMO’s senior partners, BOM – Australia, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration – NOAA – America and Met Office – UK are adjusting their temperature data to something that has a much more closer resemblance to the IPCC’s models. There is no evidence that Hydrometeorological Centre of Russia – (Roshydromet), is involved with these adjustments.

They are taking this:

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And turning it into this:

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An Australian scientist, Jennifer Marohasy, has been taking a close interest in the adjustments BOM are making.² She produces weather forecasting models and has a grave concern about these adjustments. One of the data inputs to weather forecasting models in temperature. It appears that the temperature is not correct/accurate now.None of these organizations will say or explain what they are doing or are being vague when asked. Raw data is being removed from public scrutiny and no one knows if it is actually being destroyed. Officially they are providing no scientific basis for making these adjustments. The adjustments they are making are complex. The 1940/41 and 1998 El Ninos have been wiped from these records.

But they haven’t just lowered and raised the temperatures in one hit, they’ve slowly incriminated the adjustments so that it all looks natural. If they’d lowered and raised them in one hit you’d have a chart that looks like this.

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At one of our recent MWD reunions I caught up with and spoke to a colleague who spent many years working at the BOM as a weather observer and forecaster both in Antarctica and Australia. This person is outside of the realm of politics and wishes to remain anonymous. The person’s last job was working on these temperature adjustments. The job of this person’s team was to adjust the temperatures upwards so has been working on adjustments from 1990 until the present.

I asked, why was BOM making these adjustments and it was explained to me this way.

When there are temperature observational points located in the CBD area of large cities where there are tall buildings, it has been well known to BOM and generally, that these temperatures would be half to one and a half degrees C cooler if the tall building and the city wasn’t there. It is a phenomenon known as “the island effect”. It is the same as when, on a cold day, the hairs on your arm stand up and that insulates a warm layer of air close to the skin. Tall buildings do the same thing. Additionally, these tall buildings are heated and air conditioned and every time people walk in and out of the building, hot or cold air blows out altering the ambient street temperatures.

But the anomaly in what this person is saying here is that this person’s team is adjusting country temperatures upwards by half to one and a half degrees C so that they match the city temperatures. That’s creating about a degree C of warming when if they had adjusted the city temperatures down half to one and a half degrees C, they’d be creating approximately a half a degree of cooling.

Jennifer Marohasy’s charts for Rutherglen in country Victoria show this quite clearly. Note these are truncated to 1910.

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Conclusion

The Australian Climate Observations Reference Network–Surface Air Temperature (ACORN-SAT) Technical Advisory Forum released a report in 2015 confirming that the Surface Air Temperatures were being adjusted, confirming the process is called Homogenization, confirming that other weather monitoring institutions around the world are making these same adjustments and purporting to justify why the adjustments are being made. Observing practices change, thermometers change, stations move from one location to another and new weather stations are installed. They refused to release their complex mathematical formula used to make the adjustments. They claim that homogenisation is essential in eliminating artificial non-climate systematic errors in temperature observations. non-climate related factors include:

  •  the replacement of thermometers;
  •  changes in observing practices;
  •  expansion of the network into remote locations;
  •  changes in infrastructure surrounding a weather station;
  •  relocation of weather stations.

The only reason on that list that really makes any sense is changes in infrastructure surrounding a weather station. You can’t calibrate a thermometer used 100 years ago with one used today. When reviewing Jennifer Marohasy’s paper on Rutherglen, just as one example, none of the above apply yet Rutherglen’s temperatures were still adjusted. In her report Jennifer wrote:

In a special advisory issued by the Bureau in September 2014, it is claimed that the adjustments – which create the artificial warming trend in the homogenised temperature minima – were necessary to make the Rutherglen series consistent with the trends measured at neighbouring weather stations. However, it is apparent that in this advisory, annual raw minima values from Rutherglen are compared with data from neighbouring sites that have already been homogenised. This approach, which may once have been considered fraudulent, is now consistent with the postmodernist epistemology that underpins homogenisation as practiced by the Bureau . . .

Jennifer has requested of BOM why Rutherglen was adjusted when none of the BOM’s homogenization criteria applied and received no response.

My observation of all of this is that these so called reasons for making these adjustments are not reasons but excuses. If any adjustments are to be made, city/urban temperatures should be adjusted down to match what the temperature would be without tall buildings. Adjusting country/regional temperatures upwards to match the city is a fabrication to suit an hypothesis or agenda and the reasons are just an excuse. If there was any real reason for an adjustment, aside from the island effect in cities, it would be for where there is a Stevenson Screen out in the middle of an asphalt car park. That temperature should be adjusted down. Yet all these adjustments are both up and down, depending on the time period, with the end result a temperature chart that resembles catastrophic warming. And that is coincidentally exactly what the IPCC are looking for.

That makes these adjustments political not scientific.

  1. It is reasonable to make certain adjustments that are intended to improve accuracy.
  2. Adjustments should be rare.
  3. Adjustments should not be to suit a political purpose and there should be no mechanism that allows to even make this possible.
  4. As a scientific practice, the reporting agencies should ALWAYS maintain and report the original raw data. It should be publicly available for download. It should be easy to find and not buried under numerous web pages making it impossible to find.

Once you start introducing reasons to make adjustments then it becomes too easy to use them as an excuse to adjust everything to suit a purpose. It becomes easy to allow for political interference. Political interference should be impossible.


1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgKJpJyDXQ

2 Temperature Change at Rutherglen in South-East Australia

Brendan Godwin was a Radio Technical and Officer Weather Observer Bureau of Meteorology for Mawson Station in the Antarctic 1974

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Latitude
December 21, 2016 9:24 am

When you adjust the past temperature….and hindcast/tune the computer games to that…..you can’t wonder why they are so off predicting the future

Reply to  Latitude
December 21, 2016 9:48 am

“so off” is merely a point of view. To the political handlers wanting a fake message from those met offices, they are “spot on”.

urederra
Reply to  Latitude
December 21, 2016 12:26 pm

It is worse. Models were calibrated with unadjusted temperatures. Now model outputs are compared to present adjusted temperatures, and yet, they fail.

December 21, 2016 9:30 am

When you look at temp data not affected by urban heating then the hockey stick completely disappears :
http://irishenergyblog.blogspot.ie/2016/05/a-brief-history-of-climate-change-in.html

December 21, 2016 9:30 am

When you look at temp data not affected by urban heating then the hockey stick completely disappears

December 21, 2016 9:44 am

Once Again, the Upton Sinclair quote comes to mind as the most plausible explanation of this behavior by climatists and assorted pseudoscience charlatans.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
The first step to correcting is to drain the swamp in the various capitols around the world.
The second step is for Trump and Congress to bar US funding of the UNFCCC-IPCC.
An associated step is to defund GISS.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
December 22, 2016 8:19 am

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
For some reason, Griff comes to mind.

Bloke down the pub
December 21, 2016 9:49 am

Unfortunately, however many times this issue is raised, there is never a response from the authourities that rings true.

December 21, 2016 9:52 am

Brendan Godwin
Thanks for a very insightful article, verification of the method of manipulation.
Senator Malcolm Roberts must see this article, and I would encourage you contact him.
In his position he can raise the order that the raw data be impounded and made safe.

Climate Heretic
Reply to  ozonebust
December 21, 2016 10:33 am

And the RAW DATA released to the public.
Regards
Climate Heretic

Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 21, 2016 2:00 pm

“And the RAW DATA released to the public.”
This is nuts. The raw data is all released, and always has been. Ever seen one of those Goddard plots showing adjusted-raw? He makes elementary mistakes with averaging, but he did have raw data. It’s all here, in the GHCN Daily files. The daily min and max, as read, and the average. For every adjusted data that is published, you can get the unadjusted data.
Of course, no one in this chorus are ever going to look. Easier to shut your eyes and be a heretic.

tetris
Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 21, 2016 4:24 pm

Nick
You are suffering from acute short term memory loss. The raw data has always been available – you must be kidding.
Care to explain why it is that systematically the past that gets adjusted downward and the present/near present warmer – in the process “disappearing” the warm periods in the early and mid 20th century and now even the 1998 El Nino, getting rid of any downward variation?

Bulldust
Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 21, 2016 4:37 pm

Nick – given the warning at the top of that page, how many people will dare to click the links? Available perhaps, but much like the destruction of the earth plans were available in the Hitchhikers’ Guide, no?

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 21, 2016 4:56 pm

BD,
“Nick – given the warning at the top of that page, how many people will dare to click the links?”
I’m not sure which warning you mean. But yes, the files are large. You’ll need computer skills to do anything with them. But what do you expect? If you want raw data, there is just a lot of it. NOAA can’t change that.
If you want individual locations, there is a gadget here which will let you select them. That cuts down to a few Mb, but you’ll still need a computer.
Or if you aren’t totally hung up on raw, then like most people you can settle for GHCN Monthly, which combines that data (for longer records) into monthly averages. Still about 50Mb. That’s just the way it is.
tetris
” The raw data has always been available – you must be kidding.”
Still more determined eyes shut, ears closed. I’ve shown where it is, what is your issue?

Robert from oz
Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 22, 2016 12:21 am

Ahh Nick , I think the man was talking about BOM and if you can find a record from BOM pre 1910 that’s on the up and up I’ll see you in the CAGW church on Sunday .

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 22, 2016 1:07 am

“if you can find a record from BOM pre 1910 that’s on the up and up”
Nothing easier. Here is Cape Otway, starting 1868, unadjusted. You can generate them as you please, starting here.

MarkW
Reply to  Climate Heretic
December 22, 2016 8:20 am

How can data that has been lost, be released to the public?

Reply to  ozonebust
December 21, 2016 10:41 am

The easiest way to make it permanently safe is to publish it

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Jay Willis
December 21, 2016 11:13 am

Don’t tell the idiots who are “archiving” climate data to keep Trump’s hands off it.
Or something. I don’t actually speak tin-foil hat, so I may have missed the translation.

4 Eyes
Reply to  ozonebust
December 21, 2016 1:31 pm

Brendan, please send your essay directly to every federal MP in Australia, their email addresses are available at the parliament house website

ozspeaksup
Reply to  4 Eyes
December 23, 2016 5:38 am

I have sent it direct to Cory Bernardi and Sen Chris Back in WA
but it wont hurt if more send it too;-)

Horace Jason Oxboggle
Reply to  ozonebust
December 23, 2016 1:34 am

The millions of radiosondes have, since first launched, shown the absence of the claimed hot-spot, and this as been confirmed by satellite measurements. Can we get someone (Dick Smith, Donald Trump) to fund and build a manned radiosonde, in which we send believers to experience the cold where they claim the hot-spot is? Please? They should stay there for at least a year, or preferably thirty, to cover El Nino/La Nina occurrences. I expect thousands of them to volunteer for this – including maybe some who went to Antarctica on that ship several years ago. After all, think of the children!

Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 10:00 am

I’ve always wanted to see a raw data chart made of areas that have practically no humidity. With all the hubbub about GHG’s influence, and that of CO2, it would seem pertinent that if you really want to see the impact of CO2 on temperature, it would be in areas that have little to no water vapor.
I’d say the SW US, but it has been contaminated by farming and irrigation practices. Antarctic is another choice, and as I recall, the satellite data says it is cooling. How can it be cooling if CO2 warms it?

Wim Röst
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 11:01 am

“I’ve always wanted to see a raw data chart made of areas that have practically no humidity.”
I suppose the lowest humidity (total precipitable water) will be at the South Pole: https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=total_precipitable_water/orthographic=235.71,-88.95,508/loc=134.623,-89.885
The raw data (temperature anomaly) for the Scott-Amundsen base at 90S:
http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/Stations/TAVG/Figures/166900-TAVG-Raw.pdf

Dr. Deanster
Reply to  Wim Röst
December 21, 2016 11:37 am

That’s pretty much what I thought.
I don’t see much of a warming trend there ….. do you? In fact, in the period 1980-2000, where the temp rose the fastest and most according to GISS, et al., , we see temp decreasing. Kinda smacks of the adiabetic theory of Global Warming that states more CO2 actually cools the earth.

Reply to  Wim Röst
December 21, 2016 2:02 pm

Maybe Mosher can explain why all the QC fails are on the negative anomaly side.

Dr. Dave
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 11:55 am

“I’ve always wanted to see a raw data chart made of areas that have practically no humidity.”
Me too… seems like a no brainer.

Paul belanger
Reply to  Dr. Dave
December 21, 2016 12:32 pm

” People can believe with all their heart and mind that they are telling the truth and still be wrong.”
I concur, rather like ‘if you like your doctor you can keep him’, or ‘I have released all my Emails’. On and on ad finitum

rocketscientist
Reply to  Dr. Dave
December 21, 2016 1:57 pm

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”
Mark Twain

ferd berple
December 21, 2016 10:05 am

Adjusting data after you have seen the results is typically forbidden in science because it violates the double blind experimental design process required to prevent human bias from contaminating the result.
None of us are immune from this process and it is below the level of human consciousness. We can truly state on a stack of bibles that we did nothing improper and in our hearts we will believe we are speaking the truth. But we will be wrong.

Reply to  ferd berple
December 21, 2016 10:17 am

Excellent point. People can believe with all their heart and mind that they are telling the truth and still be wrong. An argument against the temperature adjustments being wrong is often “do you really think all these people are deliberately not telling the truth”? My answer is no, I think they believe what they are saying, but that does not equate to it being true. In spite of the fact that those on the warming (or is it extreme weather now?) side think they are immune from confirmation bias, everyone is affected by it and one can really, really believe in something that is not true. At one time science had checks and balances, but not anymore. No one polices science to keep it objective since it became political.

Reply to  Reality check
December 21, 2016 11:00 am

No sorry, Reality check – I like your attempt to justify this kind of activity, and to give these people the benefit of the doubt. But I think they know exactly what they are doing. They can read Brendan’s words, and many that have said the same things. They can understand them as easily as anybody. The only rational scientific response to a logical and careful criticism such as the one Brendan makes is to publish all the data, all the methods, and all the adjustments. There is no reasonable excuse not to. Anything else just demonstrates that the data reported are unreliable. Risible excuses such as the original data were lost in a fire are childish and silly, not worthy of serious response.

Reply to  Reality check
December 21, 2016 11:36 am

Jay:
“The only rational scientific response to a logical and careful criticism such as the one Brendan makes is to publish all the data, all the methods, and all the adjustments.”
You assume a rational, scientific response. Yet there is no evidence whatsoever that scientists are rational or scientific in any or all instances. They are human beings with all the defects involved in being human. If science were run by robots programed by totally dispassionate human beings, then it might be realistic to believe that scientists, ie the robots, are rational and scientific. With humans involved, no.

FTOP_T
Reply to  Reality check
December 21, 2016 12:17 pm

It is a handful of scientists that have gained too much on the ride up and are being purposeful in their misinformation. Many are just susceptible to the aura of those credentialed in their field or brow beaten to conform…
Unfortunately, the “giants” in a scientific area can hold court for many years…
In 1923, leading American zoologist Theophilus Painter declared, based on poor data and conflicting observations he had made,[20][21] that humans had 24 pairs of chromosomes. From the 1920s to the 1950s, this continued to be held based on Painter’s authority,[22][23][24][21] despite subsequent counts totaling the correct number of 23.[20][25] Even textbooks[20] with photos showing 23 pairs incorrectly declared the number to be 24[25] based on the authority of the then-consensus of 24 pairs.[26][22]
This seemingly established number created confirmation bias among researchers, and “most cytologists, expecting to detect Painter’s number, virtually always did so”.[26] Painter’s “influence was so great that many scientists preferred to believe his count over the actual evidence”,[25] to the point that “textbooks from the time carried photographs showing twenty-three pairs of chromosomes, and yet the caption would say there were twenty-four”.[25] Scientists who obtained the accurate number modified[27] or discarded[28] their data to agree with Painter’s count.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Reply to  Reality check
December 21, 2016 2:08 pm

Snowden wasn’t the only person working on the project he was involved in. You can know something isn’t right, but are you going to sacrifice your future, your family, do jail time, and be labeled a traitor ? People are getting paid, jobs are not that plentiful, and saying or doing anything against those that want certain results will get you blacklisted. For some reason the only job you might get is, you want fries with that burger, if you don’t end up in court.
Mt own family declared me a traitor and soft on terrorism when I made it very clear… there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. ( before a repeat of shock and awe, a slam dunk ) Publicly, it was worse. Don’t tell me that there can’t be group think and enforced concensus . There never was any debate on climate science . AGW was settled science from the outset.
It is the die hard efforts of skeptics that has kept the western world from turning into a giant slum. Nobody in China, India, or Russia believes AGW. They will give lip service if they think they might get some money out of it.

rw
Reply to  Reality check
December 22, 2016 12:17 pm

I dunno. If they believe what they say, why would they hurry off when they hear the word “Milankovitch”?

paqyfelyc
December 21, 2016 10:07 am

1984 : Who controls the present controls the past. Who controls the past controls the future.
Nothing new, actually, the same kind of “adjustment” was also done centuries and millennia ago.
This had to happen: we collectively tried to bind politics with science, so politicians retaliated back by binding science funding (that is, science itself) to their agenda.
And so we lost science in the process.
Actually we misunderstood the “science is settled” statement. “settled” has several meaning, in this instance it really meant “colonized”. “Science is settled”, indeed, pretty much like Australia was settled, just guess by whom ?
Bottom line : don’t ever try to use science for anything else than technical matters, like making a plane fly

December 21, 2016 10:13 am

Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
“None of these organizations will say or explain what they are doing or are being vague when asked. Raw data is being removed from public scrutiny and no one knows if it is actually being destroyed. Officially they are providing no scientific basis for making these adjustments.”
“Once you start introducing reasons to make adjustments then it becomes too easy to use them as an excuse to adjust everything to suit a purpose. It becomes easy to allow for political interference. Political interference should be impossible.”
Welcome to the political, pseudoscientific world “man-made” global warming…

December 21, 2016 10:18 am

Raising rural temperatures to match urban UHI is a version of the regional expectations/ pairwise homogenization problem. A UHI correction would warm the past (leaving present unchanged to match reported) in order to get the trend right. NASA Giss uses Tokyo as the example. In fact, GISS does the opposite. All this and more documented in essay When Data Isn’t, including a more extensive discussion of BOM, Rutherglen, and other Australian examples like Darwin.

Reply to  ristvan
December 21, 2016 6:22 pm

Karl’s 2015 NOAA pause buster adjustment did something analogous to the SS temps too.
Remember, they adjusted the more accurate but cooler buoy derived SST data using the less accurate but warmer ship water intake data. And then they used the higher quality statistics of the buoy data to more heavily weight the resulting combined data set. To have done it the other way would have cooled the resulting anomaly figure, and they couldn’t allow that.

Owen Suppes
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
December 22, 2016 6:41 pm

Joel, this was the “heads are gonna roll”, dataset. Karl is finished and NOAA will be restructured. NOAA just went too far, exposing their bias.

commieBob
December 21, 2016 10:20 am

But the anomaly in what this person is saying here is that this person’s team is adjusting country temperatures upwards by half to one and a half degrees C so that they match the city temperatures.

The problem is that …

Three percent of the world’s land surface is covered with urban areas, … link

That means 97% of the weather over the land happens away from cities. The adjustment is exactly backward. This is so glaringly obvious that, if it went to court, the judge might use the words: “knew or should have known”. It looks fraudulent to me.

mountainape5
December 21, 2016 10:23 am

They adjust it to profit.

ferdberple
December 21, 2016 10:30 am

Using urban stations as inputs to the homogenization process will contaminate rural stations with urban heating, including artificial heating due to land use and energy use.
Once thus contaminated, using the rural stations as inputs to the homogenization process will further contaminate both rural stations and urban stations, until the entire record is contaminated and CANNOT BE TRUSTED. Any policy decisions based on the contaminated data are likely to be wrong and as such are likely to cause more harm than good.
In seeking to improve the data quality, contamination has reduced data quality.

December 21, 2016 10:31 am

“The IPCC have produced 102 climate models to predict our future climate. ”
Wrong.
The IPCC have produced ZERO climate models.
The climate models are produced by various labs and university’s.
Since this is a post about getting things right…. start with your own understanding of what the IPCC is and is not.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
December 21, 2016 1:46 pm

*universities* Geez, aren’t you an English major?

Reply to  Chuck Peebles (@bigpeepz)
December 21, 2016 3:17 pm

He wasn’t objecting to the grammar. He was objecting to the ignorant claim that the IPCC creates GCMs.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Chuck Peebles (@bigpeepz)
December 22, 2016 3:15 am

“He was objecting to the ignorant claim that the IPCC creates GCMs.”
IPCC does indeed created those models it use. Without IPCC, no sane modeler would have make a model where GHG are the sole control knob of climate, so we would have a few of them, not 102. And there would be so many other models with other control knobs (if they already exist, somehow they don’t appear in the work of IPCC. I wonder why …)

Steve T
Reply to  Chuck Peebles (@bigpeepz)
December 23, 2016 4:06 am

Steven Mosher
December 21, 2016 at 10:31 am
“The IPCC have produced 102 climate models to predict our future climate. ”
Wrong.
The IPCC have produced ZERO climate models.
The climate models are produced by various labs and university’s.

Chuck Peebles (@bigpeepz)
December 21, 2016 at 1:46 pm
*universities* Geez, aren’t you an English major?

Many people who went to universities have difficulty spelling (not all), but perhaps there is a simpler reason – maybe there’s a greengrocer in the family tree! 🙂
SteveT

Reply to  Steven Mosher
December 21, 2016 2:23 pm

Another gem of accuracy is this
comment image
The top graph is just regular HADCRUT land/ocean. Phill Jones just added the arrows. The second is GISS land stations only, as it very clearly says. No-one is turning one into the other. They are different records about different places, and both published.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
December 21, 2016 3:05 pm

“And the adjustments and homogenisations have had absolutely zero impact on the way the graphs look?”
Very little. In fact, HADCRUT, featured here, does not homogenise. The differences between versions are almost entirely due to the addition of new data.

Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
Reply to  Nick Stokes
December 21, 2016 8:33 pm

GISS land stations — rural area covers more than two-thirds f land area and urban urban area with less than one third covers the met network. That means urban effect is added — positive change but rural effect is not covered — negative change. In the real case steep rise would not be the scenario.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Nick Stokes
December 22, 2016 1:14 am

“are a confession”
No confession, just an observation. If they made a big difference, it would still be the right thing to do.
People use the data for constructing indices. Indices are their best estimate of what happened. If all he signs point to an inhomogeneity that should be contacted, that’s where their best estimate leads.

Brett Keane
Reply to  Nick Stokes
December 22, 2016 6:36 pm

Nick Stokes
December 21, 2016 at 2:23 pm: In fact, Nick, Stephen, like you, was pretending a superiority he does not possess. You are both shills of narrow understanding, so making fools of yourselves is easy. . But thankfully we will not have to put up with such tedious sneering for much longer.

Sleepalot
Reply to  Steven Mosher
December 21, 2016 9:34 pm

Mosher equivocating on the term “produced”, from “presented” to “created”.

December 21, 2016 10:45 am

I saw the same pattern when doing a similar study for the state of Virginia with my students in the late 80’s. Beginning at 1920, a steady increase in temperature until the mid 40’s, then a steep decline until the late 60’s, then an increase until the end of my data, which at that time was 1988. The only exception to this pattern was Washington DC, a large metropolitan area experiencing exponential growth. Had DC not seen such growth, I suspect the temperature pattern would be the same as the rest of the state.
I should mention that I used the raw data copied from annual reports of the Climatic Data Center from the ODU library.

December 21, 2016 10:46 am

As a scientist it is easy to see the many ways this practice is wrong, if it’s intent was simply to find and publish the truth about local weather observations. It defy’s all good rules of scientific practice. Politicians however see this as just another way of saying what they think the voters need to hear. This is all considered excellent work in the realm of politics (or advertising), the intent of which is to make people believe things that are clearly not true. The absurdity of this behaviour becomes clearer as one looks down the road to a time when I’ll be outside in a thick coat, gloves, boots and a woolen hat scraping ice off my windshield while the politically correct climatologists are advising us all to put on sun screen, avoid the heat and keep hydrated.

William Astley
December 21, 2016 10:47 am

The Liberal’s word of the year is ‘surreal’.
The Liberals have selected an appropriate word; however, they are clueless as to what will or will not be surreal.
It is surreal that the cult of CAGW have spent 30 years altering the past temperature record to create a hockey stick as the unadjusted temperature record (last 150 years) does not support CAGW. The temperature record of the last 150 years does not even support AGW.
It is surreal that there are at least a dozen independent observations that support the assertion that there is something fundamental incorrect with the greenhouse gas calculations/atmospheric assumptions for the calculations.
Temperature record climategate type adjustments does not change the fact that solar cycle changes caused the majority of the warming in the last 150 years, as opposed to the increase in atmospheric CO2.
http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Screen-Shot-2016-12-19-at-9.44.41-AM-1.png
We are going to move from surreal to super surreal. The solar cycle has been interrupted which is different than a simple ‘slowdown’ in the solar cycle. Significant unexplained planetary cooling is going to change everything.
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2016/anomnight.12.19.2016.gif

Latitude
Reply to  William Astley
December 21, 2016 11:26 am

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Dr. Deanster
Reply to  Latitude
December 21, 2016 11:44 am

Linky??

Reply to  Latitude
December 21, 2016 9:08 pm

Yeah, but, but…um…uh…sea ice.
Yeah…sea ice!
That’s the ticket!

Dr. Deanster
Reply to  William Astley
December 21, 2016 11:45 am

Where does the top difference graph come from …. linky??

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 11:59 am

Tony Heller blog Deplorable Real Climate Science. He has posted the computational spreadsheet and the data. It was also independently verified by Steve Case using Wayback Machine when Gavin Schmidt tried to pretend it isn’t true using an age old graphing trick. About maybe 3 days ago.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 12:31 pm

ristvan December 21, 2016 at 11:59 am
Tony Heller blog Deplorable Real Climate Science. He has posted the computational spreadsheet and the data. It was also independently verified by Steve Case using Wayback Machine when Gavin Schmidt tried to pretend it isn’t true using an age old graphing trick. About maybe 3 days ago.

Thanks for the credit, I appreciate it (-:

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 2:05 pm

” He has posted the computational spreadsheet and the data.”
I would like to see someone produce that spreadsheet. He says he has published it, but he hasn’t. Nothing that will actually produce the results.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 2:28 pm

Nick Stokes December 21, 2016 at 2:05 pm
” He has posted the computational spreadsheet and the data.”
I would like to see someone produce that spreadsheet. He says he has published it, but he hasn’t. Nothing that will actually produce the results.

You could take a trip to the Internet Archives WayBack Machine and duplicate it for yourself, it’s not that difficult.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 3:15 pm

“You could take a trip to the Internet Archives WayBack Machine and duplicate it for yourself, it’s not that difficult.”
Nonsense. The graph is actually made with currently available data on adjustments. Well, currently at the time; the graph is itself a few years old and refers to a long ago version of USHCN. What you need to calculate it is Goddard’s unique (and totally wrong) method of comparing averages. That is in code.

Latitude
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 4:15 pm

refers to a long ago version of USHCN……
So you’re saying it would be even worse now…
…unless you’re trying to say they stopped adjusting after that graph was made

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 5:55 pm

“You could take a trip to the Internet Archives WayBack Machine and duplicate it for yourself, it’s not that difficult …
”Nick Stokes December 21, 2016 at 3:15 pm
Nonsense. The graph is actually made with currently available data on adjustments. Well, currently at the time; the graph is itself a few years old and refers to a long ago version of USHCN. What you need to calculate it is Goddard’s unique (and totally wrong) method of comparing averages. That is in code.

Here’s the page from the WayBack Machine with the old data:
GHCN 1701-12/2000 (meteorological stations only)
Here’s the Link to Tony Heller’s Blog Post
Gavin says his data is fake
You can go dig up the current data and do the comparison to Tony’s chart yourself. I did a 5 year average just like he did and here’s my quick and dirty chart I put up there a few days ago:
http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/32096-1.gif
You can call it nonsense all you want, but just like calling the tail on Abe Lincoln’s dog, a leg doesn’t make it one.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 6:01 pm

“You could take a trip to the Internet Archives WayBack Machine and duplicate it for yourself, it’s not that difficult.
”Nick Stokes December 21, 2016 at 3:15 pm
Nonsense. The graph is actually made with currently available data on adjustments. Well, currently at the time; the graph is itself a few years old and refers to a long ago version of USHCN. What you need to calculate it is Goddard’s unique (and totally wrong) method of comparing averages. That is in code.

Here’s the page from the WayBack Machine with the old data:
GHCN 1701-12/2000 (meteorological stations only)
Here’s the Link to Tony Heller’s Blog Post
Gavin says his data is fake
You can go dig up the current data and do the comparison to Tony’s chart yourself. I did a 5 year average just like he did and here’s my quick and dirty display I put up there a few days ago:
http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/32096-1.gif
You can call it nonsense all you want, but just like calling the tail on Abe Lincoln’s dog, a leg doesn’t make it one.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 6:05 pm

“You could take a trip to the Internet Archives WayBack Machine and duplicate it for yourself, it’s not that difficult.
”Nick Stokes December 21, 2016 at 3:15 pm
Nonsense. The graph is actually made with currently available data on adjustments. Well, currently at the time; the graph is itself a few years old and refers to a long ago version of USHCN. What you need to calculate it is Goddard’s unique (and totally wrong) method of comparing averages. That is in code.

Here’s the page from the WayBack Machine with the old data:
GHCN 1701-12/2000 (meteorological stations only)
Here’s the Link to Tony Heller’s Blog Post
Gavin says his data is fake
You can go dig up the current data and do the comparison to Tony’s chart yourself. I did a 5 year average just like he did and here’s my quick and dirty display I put up there a few days ago:
http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/32096-1.gif
You can call it nonsense all you want, but just like calling the tail on Abe Lincoln’s dog, a leg doesn’t make it one.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 21, 2016 6:07 pm

“You could take a trip to the Internet Archives WayBack Machine and duplicate it for yourself, it’s not that difficult.
”Nick Stokes December 21, 2016 at 3:15 pm
Nonsense. The graph is actually made with currently available data on adjustments. Well, currently at the time; the graph is itself a few years old and refers to a long ago version of USHCN. What you need to calculate it is Goddard’s unique (and totally wrong) method of comparing averages. That is in code.

Here’s the page from the WayBack Machine with the old data:
GHCN 1701-12/2000 (meteorological stations only)
Here’s the Link to Tony Heller’s Blog Post
Gavin says his data is fake
You can go dig up the current data and do the comparison to Tony’s chart yourself. I did a 5 year average just like he did and here’s my quick and dirty display I put up there a few days ago:
http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/32096-1.gif
You can call it nonsense all you want, but just like calling the tail on Abe Lincoln’s dog, a leg doesn’t make it one.

Hugs
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 6:50 am

Nick,

What you need to calculate it is Goddard’s unique (and totally wrong) method of comparing averages.

I’m neither trusting Heller uses a spatially averaged model but rather some direct average of numbers. But the graph is intriguing and I don’t believe a second it is a fake. There might be some artifacts, but the accurate fit means there is something weird going on.
I really loved to see duplication of Heller’s graph.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 11:32 am

Steve Case,
Sorry, I thought we were talking about Latitude’s Goddard graph, which appears immediately above. Yes, GISS has varied somewhat since 2000; many of the adjustments, like TOBS, were introduced in about 2001. I note that you are showing not global bat land stations only, where this has a disproportionate effect.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 11:49 am

Hugs,
The problem with Goddard’s averaging is more elementary. He’s dealing with absolute temperature, and the set of stations in his “raw” average (those that reported) is different from the final (all stations, with estimates for non-reporting stations). Absolute temperatures vary a lot in time and space, and when you compare non-matching groups, a big factor is just whether one included warmer places (by climate) than the other.
But some alignment is expected. USHCN adjustments are dominated by TOBS, which is basically the accumulation of events where observers switched observing times, predominantly from evening to morning. So they are cumulative in time, and the USHCN plots of them show this. CO2 also increases with time.
I’ve never understood what people think the evil scientists are up to here. Usually the canard is that they are adjusting temperatures to align with CO2. But why on earth would they want the adjustments to align with CO2. That would only have the effect of aligning temperature increases if they were already proportional to CO2, but with different slope.

Chimp
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 11:53 am

Nick,
Evil, yes. Scientists, no.
Decidedly not.

Chimp
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 12:01 pm

To be a scientist, you have to practice the scientific method.
At least until post-modern “science” as imagined by historian Naomi Oreskes, that meant: 1) making a guess, 2) making testable, falsifiable predictions on its basis, 3) collecting observations of objective reality in order to test the guess and 4) seeing if the predictions are confirmed or shown false. That is not how climate pseudoscience proceeds, nor do its advocates like Oreskes, cartoonist Cook and English major Mosher even accept the validity of the real scientific method, tried and tested for 500 years or more.
Adjusting data to make alleged observations seem to fit GIGO models is the Bizarro World antithesis of the scientific method.

Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 9:23 pm

Nick Stokes,
By comparing if CO2 fits to temperature, You haver to find a timeframe where it fits to the temperature and checking then, if the rest of the graph fits.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1958/mean:21/plot/esrl-co2/mean:13/normalise/offset:0.22/scale:1.1/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1974/to:1999/trend/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1999/trend/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1958/to:1974/trend
From the seventies to the nineties, there was a nice fit between both. Therefore scientists started to believe, that the world is warming through CO2. But before and after, it’s just not working.
And even in the 25 years of somehow proper fit, there is a lot of up and down, showing that even other natural cycles are involved.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Dr. Deanster
December 22, 2016 9:58 pm

“it’s just not working”
This is the juvenile skeptic device of using HADCRUT 3, which is not only obolete, lacking Arctic data, but has not had any data for at least three years. Here is a HADCRUT 4 version:
http://www.moyhu.org.s3.amazonaws.com/2016/06/CO2vsHAD.png
WFT link
” Therefore scientists started to believe, that the world is warming through CO2. “
No, their belief was never based on correlation of a few years. The physics goes back to Arrhenius (1896). These plots add confirmation.
” there is a lot of up and down, showing that even other natural cycles are involved”
Yes, of course.

Paul of Alexandria
December 21, 2016 10:50 am

I couldn’t help but getting the feeling that I wasn’t supposed to know anything about the Milankovitch Cycles. It seemed like no one was supposed to know this.

So what did he say in the presentation?

ralfellis
Reply to  Paul of Alexandria
December 21, 2016 11:12 am

And I doubt if he spoke about the Milankovitch insolation cycle averaging 23ky, and so we are on the brink of a new ice age. Very close to the brink, so I believe.
R

Reply to  ralfellis
December 21, 2016 6:56 pm

No he didn’t mention Milankovitch.

Reply to  Paul of Alexandria
December 21, 2016 6:55 pm

Paul,
He was straight down the line in his presentation. He updated us all on the scientific program then talked about his version of AGW.

Reply to  Brendan
December 22, 2016 9:40 pm

He [Martin Riddle] updated us all on the scientific program then talked about his version of AGW.
How decidedly odd. Martin would certainly know about the program given he was the manager until his recent retirement. However, I’m left wondering about “his version of AGW”.
Despite our somewhat orthogonal views regarding CAGW, Martin usually refuses to discuss it based on his assertion that I know rather more about climate than he does. And we’d much rather remain friends than not. Perhaps he was “given the job” as was The Git back in the early 90s when he was invited to be one of several talking heads on ABC Radio National discussing global warming. None of us knew WTF we were talking about at that time. Nice thing about ignorance; it’s rather easily fixed 🙂

Tom Halla
December 21, 2016 11:01 am

Another piece of information on the “adjustment” of temperature records. Adolph Schickelgruber’s “big lie” as applied to “science”?

ralfellis
December 21, 2016 11:08 am

>>You can’t calibrate a thermometer used 100 years
>>ago with one used today.
They could. I have seen these thermometers in technology museums. All they need to do is set up an old thermometer, in a station box from a century agao, and take readings for a couple of years alongside the new thermometer system. This will not adjust for environmental changes, but it would eliminate instrument differences.
R

Sun Spot
Reply to  ralfellis
December 21, 2016 11:19 am

ralfellis. . . and how would you eliminate the human eyeball error measurement differences ?

Fred Harwood
Reply to  ralfellis
December 21, 2016 11:36 am

Reportedly, LIG thermometers may need recalibration due to changes in the amorphous glass over time. If an old museum thermometer were reemployed, it might need to be again calibrated.

Reply to  Fred Harwood
December 21, 2016 1:03 pm

In the British Museum there are two thermometers that were used by two British scientists taking temperatures in Australia in the 19th Century. I had mentioned these and other thermometers there and suggested in a comment to Lord Monckton it would be a good experiment to have these calibrated to see how close they were to a modern temperature measurement. I think there are enough historical thermometers to settle the question about them measuring too warm and thus rationalizing cooling the past and warming the present in adjustments. Maybe one day. (I can’t find the link now)

Ian W
Reply to  Fred Harwood
December 21, 2016 1:46 pm

What cannot be calibrated is the owner of the human eyeball and how that observer felt about the observation being made. It is highly unlikely that the observer thought that centuries hence the measurement would be adjusted in hundredths of degree steps to prove a case. Therefore, some would see accurate to ~a degree was good enough. I would think that the majority of observations before climate science was a funded alchemy would see no reason at all to be accurate to any more than a degree. There is something about being out at 0 dark hundred with sleet being blown down your neck that makes better than a degree accuracy as unlikely as unicorns.

James Francisco
Reply to  Fred Harwood
December 21, 2016 4:38 pm

Ian W. What make you think that anyone went out to look at the thermometer at 0 dark thirty with the sleet blowing. My educated guess is that many of the written records were pincil whipped.

TA
Reply to  Fred Harwood
December 21, 2016 5:38 pm

“What cannot be calibrated is the owner of the human eyeball and how that observer felt about the observation being made.”
What’s better, that human eyeball, or some modern NOAA/NASA guess as to the value of the reading?

terrahertz
Reply to  ralfellis
December 21, 2016 1:14 pm

“You can’t calibrate a thermometer used 100 years ago with one used today.”
And there I was thinking reference thermometers are calibrated against physical constants such as the freezing and boiling point of water, at known standard pressure. Are these things supposed to have ‘drifted’ enough to make a significant difference over the last hundred years? How?
I smell bullshit.
It’s also bullshit to suggest this ‘homogenization’ of the data is being done from unconscious bias. No, these people are entirely aware that they are lying, and there’s no scientific basis for their actions. Their behavior gives them away. Just like that talk presenter who ran away at the mention of Milankovitch Cycles, their evasive behavior demonstrates malevolent intent. If a scientist won’t publish his raw original data you can be sure he’s being deceptive, and you can start working on _why_ he’s deceiving. With the AGW cabal we already know why:
http://everist.org/archives/links/__AGW_quotes.txt
The only remaining questions are:
* How to shift these liars from positions of authority, to courtroom prisoner docks.
* Does the original raw, uncorrupted data even exist anymore? (Publish it!)
* How much (if any) of the money embezzled by the AGW cult can be clawed back.
* Can nations rebuilt their mothballed/destroyed coal power stations fast enough to help with rising power needs as we go into the impending ice age?

Reply to  terrahertz
December 22, 2016 2:41 am

The original raw, uncorrected doesn’t exist. When they had the data, they adjusted it, and threw the originals away. When the issue was brought up, efforts were made to retrieve it, but deterioration in the landfill made it beyond recoverable. It’s anybodys guess as to what they did. Assertions were made even then that they had adjusted the data upwards to show warming. Since that time, they’ve adjusted the data several more times.
The mercury thermometers were pretty accurate. In using one, I was surprised at just how accurate it was. I think that they were common in the weather stations. I remember seeing one in a picture of group that went to Antarctica. There was a reason for that. You don’t stake your life on an about.

Jonathan Sturm
Reply to  terrahertz
December 22, 2016 9:45 pm

It’s not the thermometer alone; it’s the combination of screen and thermometer. There was a paper published in Australia some years ago comparing thermal sensors inside a Stephenson screen. All sensors agreed regarding the freezing and boiling point of water. What they didn’t agree on was air temperature.

Richard
December 21, 2016 11:16 am

While IPCC create their own reality, nature spoils their narrative with its own.
Snow falls in the deep hot Sahara for the first time in 37 years.
Bob Geldof and Midge Ure’s 1984 Band Aid prediction that “there won’t be snow in Africa this Christmastime” has once again been proven wrong, with snow falling in the Algerian town of Ain Sefra, deep in the dry, hot Sahara desert on December 19.

stan robertson
December 21, 2016 11:17 am

Several times per year I drive through Oklahoma City and Tulsa, both E-W and N-S. During a half hour city transit, the car’s outside air thermometer goes up about 2F and then back down. This occurs at all seasons. It is called the urban heat island effect. So why is Australia’s BOM adjusting city temps downward?

RWturner
Reply to  stan robertson
December 21, 2016 12:52 pm

They aren’t, they are adjusting rural temperatures upwards to match the inaccuracy derived from urban heat island effect. Much like NOAA is adjusting buoy temperatures up to match ship intake temperatures.

Greg
December 21, 2016 11:21 am

The International Panel on Climate Change – IPCC

OH come on Brendan, this is the kind of mistake most people were making back in 2007 !
The International Panel on Climate Change
That makes it a political body with a political agenda.

Greg
Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 11:22 am

oops, copeid the text and failed to correct it. :
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 6:58 pm

Sorry, you’re correct.

Greg
Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 11:28 am

The IPCC have produced 102 climate models to predict our future climate.

The IPCC does not ‘produce’ models , does not do science it produces political documents alledgedly reflecting the current knowledge of climate.
Thanks for taking the time to post an article but after those two bloopers, I’m off to read something else.

Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 11:38 am

Actually, 32 different models with 102 ‘complete’ runs archived per the AR5 CMIP5 experimental protocol as revised and published in 2012. Available on line.

Bengt Abelsson
Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 11:54 am

On Polar bears, methinks

Janice Moore
Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 1:01 pm

Dear Greg,
First of all, thank you for your careful attention to detail and sharp-minded insights. You keep us accurate, here at WUWT and I am thankful for you.
After “… 102 climate models to predict our future climate …” you missed some intriguing information.
Just a bit of advice (sorry for the scold, but, I think the author deserved a more careful read, this time): try to better distinguish mistakes of inconsequence from mistakes of substance grievous enough to make an entire article not worth reading.
And, yes, I am stepping up to defend the author not just on principles of basic fairness, but largely due to my temperament which resulted in my being a bit angry at your being harsh and unkind to Mr. Godwin. I’m sorry that life is not going well (well, Greg, I have, over the past few years, seen that you are a decent, fair minded, kind, person, thus, I conclude it is your circumstances which are causing you to be short with Godwin).
I hope things look better tomorrow.
Try spending a little time with a good friend:
http://www.classicexhibits.com/tradeshow-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/happy-dog-happy-owner.jpg
🙂
Your WUWT ally,
Janice

Janice Moore
Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 1:03 pm

And I want to affirm you, here, Greg (in view of an apparent mis-reading of you above) — I realize that you were focusing on the fact that the IPCC does not “produce” models as in create (as opposed to merely archive/make available for viewing). You were understood by me.

Editor
Reply to  Greg
December 21, 2016 11:32 am

Got it in one there, Greg!!

Scouse Skeptic
December 21, 2016 11:24 am

The AGW has become a Tiger being held by the tail, nobody dare let go or they will be consumed. It has become belief based, a religion, no proof is required. Any rational challenge being met with cries of heresy, denier, the science is settled and to quote the President of the United States, Barrack Obama, “a flat Earther”! The men in the tweed jackets have spoken but are they providing the latest version of the Emperor’s new clothes or a newer revamped and more sinister version that sees man as the enemy of the planet.

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