Another Manntastic event, these flyers were being distributed at AGU yesterday.
Note the “lab coats and signs provided”. Much more sciency with labs coats, fer sure.
Here are some pictures and video from the rally. I wasn’t much impressed with the quality of the arguments:
The guy in the lab coat with the red glasses (front, center), the only one not holding the sign, seems to have been drinking
Here’s the video. Michael Mann and Naomi Oreskes speak, along with a cast of acolytes. You’ll see lots of hand-waving and feelings of persecution, such as “it struck me to my core” and..”the nightmare continues, and its getting worse every day”. Ironically, there were no comments regarding their fossil fueled airline flights to get here to wail about the uses of fossil fuels. My favorite is when Mann says he’s “shocked, shocked, about the politicization of science”….riiiiight. He pushed his most recent book, snore.
I’m not sure what, if anything they accomplished, except to put on a show. I don’t think serious people paid much attention to it. I surely didn’t, because science and clown-like theatrics really don’t mix.
UPDATE: I forgot to mention that this rally was conducted on the steps of a Catholic Church, St. Patricks on Mission Street, which is right across from the Jessie Square/Yerba Buena gardens. Seems a perfect place to pitch a religion, doesn’t it?
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Being irony impaired is apparently very difficult for these people.
They are about ten years too late with the “stand up for science” gig. They should have come out and backed Judith Curry when she said it 2006.
Soon they will be clawing each other eyes out in the fight for rapidly disappearing funding once Team Trump hits the Hill.
Science is dead
It shot itself in the head
Better lie down
The science is settled, we have no more need of you. Well done guys, here are your layoff notices.
John, let’s be very clear here. Climate science shot itself in the head by pushing a climate change theory that does not meet the requirements for being a scientific theory. A scientific theory is a coherent group of propositions formulated to explain a group of facts or phenomena in the natural world and repeatedly confirmed through experiment or observation. The biggest thing that a valid scientific theory has to do is be capable of observable and verifiable PREDICTION. In any other branch of science, the current theory of climate change would have thrown out over a decade ago and the people that lied and hid their data to push it would have been publically ridiculed, they would have lost their jobs, and they would never be taken seriously again unless many outside sources confirmed what they were trying to publish.
To Quote a different set of muppets, “Look Ma no brains”
Paul Nevins
December 13, 2016 at 2:18 pm
Being irony impaired is NOT apparently very difficult for these people.
There, FIFY. :>)
I thought (with not too much effort ; ) that it was a commentary on their apparent psycho/emotional state . . troubled minds, anxious and defensive, to say the least . .
This partisan show of single-mindedness is embarrassing. Thanks for covering it, Anthony!
You can have a scientist, or you can have an activist. Not both.
Damned right. Why should anyone apart from Mickey Mann and his acolytes be allowed to politicize science? It’s shocking I tell you.
I for one am SHOCKED.
A revolution is only illegal in the third person – never the first person. (paraphrased from B, Franklin)
Perhaps Michael Mann is unaware of the context of Captain Renault’s statement “Shocked! Shocked I tell you..”
Renault was being sarcastically hypocritical in pointing out the duplicity of the situation.
The irony is palpable.
From this point forward, please label Michael Mann as a Democratic activist.
The ‘Model Fellowship of Mann’ speaks out to protect its scientology.
The signs should have said “Protect the Progressive Scientific Method”.
Or maybe “Don’t Bust My Bunsen Burner budget”.
How would you like to encounter any of these people when going in for an operation? “No, I think I’ll keep my prostate.”
the guy in the center holding the plastic booze cup is Bill Murray on loan from a recent visit to the White House earlier this week. “Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now , about to become
the Master’s Champion. It’s a mirac…It’s in the hole! It’s in the hole! It’s in the hole!”
Why is he dressed up as a pregnant woman?
At long last!
We all now know what a group of scientists looks like.
It is truly amazing.
First time EEEVVVVAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Geez- the things eggheads have to come up with to get attention and generate money. Too many solvers of dubious problems. Let them work on cancer or heart research until the “climate calamity” starts claiming lives.
If you p*ssed on their parade would that make you a Peer reviewer?
So where were Mann and Orestes hiding while this was going on ??
G
Paul said….”Being irony impaired is apparently very difficult for these people.”.
Au contraire. Being irony impaired IS EXACTLY what these useful idjits are. They are born with it. Ignorance can be cured through learning….stupid is forever.
If I may paraphrase Paul: These people are having a difficult time and irony impairedness aint helpin.
They remind me of lemmings, altogether now, “Hey ho, Hey ho, it’s of the cliff we go.”
“Off” the cliff not “of” the cliff, on the other hand some of them do like rather dense mineral material.
Claude Rains as Mickey Mann:
They had to use to use the unused lab coats for something, I suppose.
Climatologists don’t use or need labs, or experiments, or facts.
Hand waving and strident assertions are enough for climatologists!
Cheers.
You certainly don’t need a lab coat to model a perfectly non rotating planet, that is uniformly illuminated day and night.
G
You wear a lab coat in order to fool the peons.
What they are saying with the lab coat ploy is, “our science is so pathetically weak we can’t rely on it to prevail in the argument, so we have to use lab coats to fool the public into thinking we know more than we really know and they should trust us because we are the ones with the lab coats.
Intent to deceive. That’s a heck of a way to run a science program.
Mann-dacious!!
I like it!
In Spanish, Manntiroso.
Or this in Italian: the happy scientists look like escapees from the Mannicomio.
Naomi is right, climate change will cost the American public trillions – in increased taxes. And in increased prices due to taxes on business. The public will pay. The “scientists” will be the only ones to benefit as they become the new oligarchy, just like the socialist masters of the USSR, spending their ill-gotten gains on gaudy trinkets such sea-side mansions.
My thoughts exactly when she said that.
We skeptics have been ardently standing up for science, casting a critical eye on unproven hypotheses and providing alternative hypotheses. Science is never to be trusted unless a hypothesis is thoroughly vetted. Oreskes and Mann are trying to hoodwink people into thinking, if someone doubts their favored hypotheses, then it is an attack against science, when those criticisms are simply revealing the shortcomings of that favored hypothesis. While people like Trenberth try to enforce mindless groupthink by suggesting researchers never debate skeptics, as well as trying to reverse the null hypothesis, only the skeptics are maintaining the very foundation of the scientific process.
This rally should convene in front of Mann or Trenberth’s office demanding they stop corrupting the scientific process.
Jim, I agree. Am thinking the appropriate timing is just after 20 Jan 2017. About when a new administrations NSF senior officer announced all funding to them and theirs ceases because of abuse of science, pseudoscience, and nonscience.
Liberals simply pollute and corrupt everything. They are making a sham of science. These are activists, not scientists. Trump needs to go after universities.
If this is what Mann and Oreskes are reduced to, the end is nigh. Reminds me of Clintomrallies compared to Trump rallies. Note the “large” group of protesting scientists from among the about 24000 AGU attendees (last years number). Clearly 97% or more err, um, did NOT stand up for science. At least not this nonscience (pun intended). Thanks for another fascinating front line report on the spasmatic initial death throws of the warmunist cult religion. It appears last rites will need to be administered shortly after 20 Jan 2017.
Clinton rallies. Darned fat iPad fingers.
I can’t even see Oreskes or Mann in the “crowd” (don’t know what the other luminaries named in the flyer look like).
Mann and Oreskes aren’t stand-up people.
If climate change is such a serious threat, then it will still be a threat with absolutely no funding whatsoever. Put your money where your mouth is: keeping doing “studies” that say it is a threat for free.
Of course, what will happen is they will loudly and publicly pout about a loss of funding and hope the Trumpster relents or is not re-elected. If neither happens, then the screaming banshees will have no choice but to move on because private jets and luxury homes aren’t free. The quest to stop the alarmists will only last until they run out of money. As long as they have enough money in reserve to pay for the high-life, it will survive. But if Trump isn’t re-elected, everything will quickly pick up where it left off.
Don’t know whether he will want to run again. He could chose and groom a successor if not Pence, like any CEO transition. But 4 years is enough to permanently change US course. Scotus, constitutional federalism, revised CAA and CWA, revised health care system, revamped and implemented immigration policy (it does not take 4 years to build a ‘wall’, revised tax code, revised basic rules on regulations, …
That which is most difficult and also requiring legislation can wait til after the 2018 Senate election, where Dems are disproportionately at risk. There is just so much other low hanging fruit after 8 years of Obumer.
I hope he stays safe to get all that done, Rud. In my view, Mr. Trump is in much, much MUCHgreater danger from a malevolent physical attack by some extremist bigot than Mr. Obama ever was — if he was at all.
YESSSSS!!!!! Stand up for SCIENCE all you climate DENIERS. Like scientific method, empirical evidence, replicatable findings, open data, process and procedures, reasonable non Ad Hominem debate over differences of opinions……..THAT kind of SCIENCE!!! Hope I don’t need a sarc tag anywhere.
How can anyone that calls himself a” scientist” stand there like a bunch of dopes? They haven’t a single free thought of their own if they can be willfully be duped like this. And these are “a leading” group of our science community? Wow we are in BIG trouble!
I agree – STAND UP FOR SCIENCE:
Fact: Man only emits about 5% of the annual CO2 emissions, the rest is from nature.
Fact: Water vapor causes most of the greenhouse effect
Fact: CO2 only causes20-30% of warming.
Fact: The rate of the current warming is statistically indistinguishable from earlier warm periods.
Fact: In most studies CO2 follows temperature, not leads it (a cause cannot follow the effect)
Fact: There has been no statistically-significant global warming since 1995.
Fact: Minoan, Egyptian, Roman and Medieval times were probably warmer than recently.
Fact: The Pacific Northwest has been cooling for the last 25+ years
Fact: Glaciers retreated FASTER in the 1930s than recently
Fact: Current ocean rise is within historical norms.
Fact: Solar cycles are a better fit to climate than CO2.
Fact: Man’s CO2 has never been proven to cause dangerous warming.
Fact: The IPCC says the earth may have cooled since 1998 or may have warmed – they don’t know because the amount of warming they claim is less than the uncertainty.
Fact: There is a strong likelihood that the major portion of the temperature change observed in the 20th century was due to natural variations.
Fact: Cold kills 20 times more people than heat
jim at 3:37 pm
Fact: The Pacific Northwest has been cooling for the last 25+ years
Gotta link fer dat?
Hmm, that’s the trouble when you cut and paste stuff like this without checking it yourself. The first three are ok but you might want to go and check the rest, as most of them are patently false. But that’s ok, you keep cutting and pasting them anyway.
Do you have any support for that claim. Other than the one on the Pacific northwest, on which I have no knowledge, every one of those claims is definitely true.
Climate science need lab coats to protect themselves from sudden coffee spills as they stare at their non-Kardashian models and shriek: “It’s worse than we thought!”.
This is so sophomoric, I’m almost speechless, yeah, I got nuttin’
Mann, Oreskes, UCS… where is the science?
Amazing! A bunch of people out complaining about something that may or may not happen. Foolishness at its best.
“Support us in our delusion that also pays our salaries from your pocket!”
Scientists???
Listening to what these people say, reminds me of people in a cult with captured/brainwashed minds.
They have no clue that the last 4 decades have featured the best weather/climate on this planet since the Medieval Warm Period, 1,000 years ago.
The beneficial increase in atmospheric CO2, along with the outstanding growing conditions are contributing greatly to record smashing crop yields and world food production as well as the greening up of our planet.
But what do I know. I’m just an operational meteorologist that has tracked global weather/climate since 1982, dialing that into an assortment of elements that contribute to crop yields and energy use.
“One, two, three, everybody repeat after me 3 times “resistance! resistance! resistance!”
OMG!
What they are resisting is the condition of having an open mind to objectively view our weather/climate as it has been occurring the past 4 decades.