Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
A while back I discussed the UN Global Poll regarding what people around the world think is important to them. At that point there were about six million respondents. The people taking the poll are asked to choose (just choose, but not rank) the six issues that matter most to them from the following list:
BETTER JOB OPPORTUNITIES
FREEDOM FROM DISCRIMINATION AND PERSECUTION
ACTION TAKEN ON CLIMATE CHANGE
SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN’T WORK
ACCESS TO CLEAN WATER AND SANITATION
PROTECTING FORESTS, RIVERS AND OCEANS
RELIABLE ENERGY AT HOME
AFFORDABLE AND NUTRITIOUS FOOD
AN HONEST AND RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT
A GOOD EDUCATION
EQUALITY BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN
PHONE AND INTERNET ACCESS
POLITICAL FREEDOMS
BETTER TRANSPORT AND ROADS
PROTECTION AGAINST CRIME AND VIOLENCE
BETTER HEALTHCARE
When I wrote my last post, climate change was running dead last. I went back yesterday to check on the poll. The poll is ongoing, you can go there and vote if you wish. There are now over nine million respondents … and yes, climate change is still running dead last, and well behind its nearest neighbor:
Figure 1. UN Poll results, all groups.
So I decided to drill down into the data a bit. I started by taking a look at the difference between men and women on the issues listed above:
Figure 2. Differences between men and women. Values are the percentage of respondents who listed that item among their choices for the top six. Lines connect men’s and women’s percentage of responses regarding the same issue, and are labeled only at the upper end. Blue labels and lines show items which women considered more important than men, while red items are those that men found more important. Ends of colored lines show the percentage values for women (left ends) and men (right ends).
The top three results are interesting because they are common to most groups. You can see that men put more weight on jobs and women put more weight on healthcare and education, but as Figure 1 shows, those three far out poll all the rest.
Women also put much more weight than men on affordable good food, protection against violence, and sexual equality (steep blue lines). Men on the other hand put much more weight than women on political freedom, better roads, and phone access (steep red lines).
And action on climate change is at the very bottom for both men and women.
While that was quite interesting, I actually had set out to look at the differences between the poor and rich countries on these matters. The UN divides countries into four levels, from poor to rich, or in their terms, from “Low HDI” (Human Development Index) to “Very High HDI” countries. To simplify and clarify the changes, I’ve just used the first and last categories, the poorest and the wealthiest countries. Here are those results:
Figure 3. As in Figure 2, but showing the difference between priorities of the poor and the rich.
There are some interesting things going on here. First, education is number one for men, for women, for the richest countries, and for the poorest countries. In my opinion, this shows the good judgement of the human race worldwide. Or perhaps it just means that I agree with the rest of the world … education roolz.
Next, the steepness of all the lines shows that the differences between what is important to people in rich and in poor countries are much, much greater than the differences between men and women on the same issues.
Next, the top three issues of all groups combined (Figure 1), as well as of both men and women separately (Figure 2), are education, healthcare, and jobs. All of those are far less important to the rich than the poor. Also, many other things like phones, reliable energy, good roads, and political freedoms are not very important to the rich. The people in rich countries don’t find those things important for a simple reason—generally they already have those things, so they have the luxury of worrying about other items.
Next, it’s clear how environmental concerns are something that only the rich can afford. “Protecting forests, rivers, and oceans” ranks high among the wealthiest countries, well above job opportunities … but it is second from the bottom for poor countries, just above climate and a ways below the next issue above it.
Finally, climate change. The people favoring action on climate change, almost to a man or woman, claim that they are doing this for the poor … but it appears that the poor didn’t get the memo. For them, as for the world in general, climate change is dead last. And in the poor countries, only 13% of the people mentioned it, a very small percentage. As far as the poor are concerned, they’d rather people spend money on any other of their many problems before putting it into climate change.
Moving on to the claimed beliefs of the rich countries, the following are samples of what has been the narrative for some time now. First from the US:
Saying that climate change ranks among the world’s most serious problems — such as disease outbreaks, poverty, terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry called on all nations to respond to “the greatest challenge of our generation.”
Next, from among our Cousins across the pond, the artist currently known as “Prince” favored us with his views on the matter, viz:
Tackling global warming is the biggest challenge facing the world today, Prince Charles has said, urging governments to act on climate change before it is too late.
Finally, from Obama’s Press Spokesman Josh Earnest we have:
1. “The point the president is making is that there are many more people on an annual basis who have to confront the impact, the direct impact on their lives, of climate change, or on the spread of a disease, than on terrorism.”
2. “The point that the president is making is that when you are talking about the direct daily impact of these kinds of challenges on the daily lives of Americans, particularly Americans living in this country, that the direct impact, that more people are affected by those things than by terrorism.”
3. “I think even the Department of Defense has spoken to the significant threat that climate change poses to our national security interests, principally because of the impact it can have on countries with less well-developed infrastructure than we have.”
So the folks in the rich countries are supposed to believe that climate change is a greater danger than terrorism. However, according to the responses of nine million people, it’s the folks in the rich countries who didn’t get the memo. Rather than thinking that action on climate change is more important than terrorism and that it’s the biggest challenge facing the world, in reality action taken on climate change is less important to the folks in rich countries than sexual equality or affordable food. And action on climate change is far less important in the wealthiest countries than clean water and sanitation … this is good news. It shows that there still is some sanity on the planet. Not everyone is chanting the alarmist mantra, “The sky is falling! A couple degrees of warming will kill us all!”
Short version? If someone thinks they are helping the poor by fighting the dread CO2, according to the UN the poor would beg to differ. The people in the poor countries have shown clearly that they would prefer it if people who want to help would instead put their valuable skills and their hard-earned money and their precious time into any of the other fifteen items on the UN list before tackling climate change. Climate is not only number sixteen at the bottom of their list, it’s way below the rest in the opinion of the poor. The only reason it is not number seventeen is that there were only sixteen choices on the list …
And even the people in the richest of countries don’t buy the claim that climate change is the biggest problem facing us, nowhere near it. Heck, climate change doesn’t even make it into the top half of the issues that people in the wealthiest countries think are important.
So. While the US is often claimed to be an outlier because so many folks here (including the President-Elect) think climate change is not a significant issue, it turns out that most folks on the planet agree with the President-Elect that climate is down at or near the bottom of the issues that matter. The existence of some fabled large constituency in favor of action on climate issues seems to be a creation of the media … dang, a fabled constituency that is actually just a creation of the media, where else have I heard that lately? But I digress …
Given that we have a limited amount of time, money, and resources with which to work on these issues, it seems to me that we should focus our effort on the real problems that people have identified as making a real difference in their lives. In order, the top ten issues worldwide are education, jobs, healthcare, good government, food, protection against violence, clean water, unemployment insurance, roads, and sexual equality. If people truly care about the poor, pick one of those issues and go to work. It’s what I did for a good chunk of my life.
Once we’ve solved those challenges, we might think about spending billions on CO2 mitigation … or not.
But until then? Not so much.
w.
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Anyone who ever believed ”the signts is sownd!” deserves to be compared to the intellectual buffoon Prince Chuck The Dense.
I recall a photo of an African woman kneeling over a fire in a smoke filled hut. If she survived childbirth years she might live until 50-55 probably to die from pulmonary disease. And Environmentalists want to keep her from having central station, cheap coal fired electricity.
Criminal.
Great article. The comparisons may have been more dramatic – and clearer – if you had used bar charts. I put it in my file.
I forsee an abrupt change in those numbers in the very near future. Many of these issues are closely connected to the consequences of global warming. Poor people doesn’t care, because they doesn’t know what whe are subjecting them to, and rich people think we have lots of time before this affects us, knowing well that the poor will yet again be the ones that gets screwed first.
“Education rulez” you say, and judging from the polls the whole world agrees that ed. is lacking. That should be a clue that the majority doesn’t jave the knowledge to protect their own interests.
If science was dictatet by the oppinions of the majority we would still have been in the dark ages, and the people behind sites like “The world’s most viewed site on global warming and climate change” would not have, nor need an internet to spread their propaganda.
Is that posting irony or serious? It is very difficult to judge nowadays.
Frode Haugsgjerd November 22, 2016 at 10:40 pm
Wonderful. Another one of our well-educated betters has arrived. Fortunately, HE has the knowledge that foolish people like us people lack.
You see, friends, in Frode’s world, anybody who is against his climate alarmism just “doesn’t have the knowledge to protect their own interests”.
Fortunately, help has arrived. Frode has graciously agreed to tell us all just how we should be living our lives and how we can protect our own interests, which is good because obviously we’re all far too dumb to know how to live this complex life in the Frode-approved manner.
This may come as a shock to you, Frode, but for many of us, we don’t need your advice and guidance, and we don’t want your advice and guidance. We are people who hear “the world wants education” and think about ways we might help in that.
You are a man who hears “the world wants better education” and concludes it must mean that people are too uneducated to make up their own minds and luckily, you’re just the man to fill that obvious need …
And you obviously haven’t noticed, but just exactly your brand of elite arrogant paternalism has fouled the climate argument from day one, as our climate betters tried to tell us what we should be thinking about climate … and it was that same elite arrogant paternalism that just lost Hillary the Presidency.
And while I can understand her missing every obvious sign … are you gonna just blithely and blindly follow HIillary and her acolytes and dance over that cliff edge with her???
w.
“Many of these issues are closely connected to the consequences of global warming. “
You mean like extended growing seasons, 13% more green cover in arid areas and ongoing almost exponential increase in the production of basic foodstuffs?
Yes, as the impact of those starts to bite, the number of people who are concerned about a bit of warming is going to decrease fast.
Upon re-reading, there’s one further point I’d like to make.
Look at the difference between the rich and the poor regarding “reliable energy at home”. For the poor, it’s in the top eight out of sixteen … and for the rich, it’s tied for dead last.
When I was a kid, inexpensive electricity to the home and the farm was still seen as a lifesaver. Now, “caring” people go around trying to make electricity expensive … unthinking cruelty toward the poor.
The poor understand the crucial part that energy plays in freeing the housewife and the farmer from endless drudgery … and sadly, the rich seem to have totally forgotten that lesson.
w.
I agree, Oatley. Willis has a knack for simmering things down to their basics.
His comment about energy and the poor reminded me of this:
If you’re well fed you have lots of problems. But if your’re starving, you have only one problem…
That nailed it Willis.
“The top ten issues worldwide are education, jobs, healthcare, good government, food, protection against violence, clean water, unemployment insurance, roads, and sexual equality”. Well, the South African ANC government has managed to blow the first SEVEN out of the water. And next year, there’s to be a ‘carbon’ tax for some reason (probably since our kleptocracy is running out of pocket money sources).
Oh yes, and the government want to build more windmills and solar farms…