Hillary Clinton Email: Russia Funding "Phony" Green Groups


Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart – a leaked Clinton campaign email suggests Clinton is aware that Russia is pouring millions of dollars into Western green groups, particularly anti-fracking groups, in an attempt to hobble America’s domestic energy market – to protect Russia’s petroleum export market.

The following excerpt is from a summary of private paid for speeches made by Hillary to supporters;

Clinton Talked About “Phony Environmental Groups” Funded By The Russians To Stand Against Pipelines And Fracking. “We were up against Russia pushing oligarchs and others to buy media. We were even up against phony environmental groups, and I’m a big environmentalist, but these were funded by the Russians to stand against any effort, oh that pipeline, that fracking, that whatever will be a problem for you, and a lot of the money supporting that message was coming from Russia.” [Remarks at tinePublic, 6/18/14]

Read more (from the attachment file): https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#attachments

Next time a radical rent-a-green group protests a local fracking operation, ask them why they don’t have a day job – how they can afford to spend months at a time away from home, disrupting everyone elses lives. But don’t be surprised, if you don’t receive a clear answer to your question.

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Bloke down the pub
October 12, 2016 3:26 pm

As always, follow the money.

October 12, 2016 3:32 pm

The more I read of Hillary’s “leaked” emails, the more I am starting to like her as a candidate. I have been staunchly against her up until now. Since I can’t see ever voting for Trump, so I was going to forgo voting in the presidential election for the first time in my adult life. I agree more with what she says behind closed doors than what she says publicly.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 4:07 pm

But how do you know with a Clinton? The Clinton campaign proves time and again she has no ethics, and her only guiding pronciple is her own self-enrichment. And for that she is a leaf in the wind, doing whatever polls tell her.
Is her “private” policy simply her private-public (wink wink) policy that she tells Wall Strret bankers and Goldman-Sachs partners what she knows they want to hear? Or does she have a private-private policy that is really there to aid her closely held rich donor base?
With the emails from her home server (not the Wikileaks ones) we see her running her State Dept as a graft-influence peddling machine for the Clinton Foundation’s enrichment, from which she, Bill, Chelsea and her close circle are richly paid and provides her private jets and travel costs. And and any clinical pyschologist will tell you that for sociopaths like the Clintons, past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 4:32 pm

You seem new to the American political system. It is entirely based on money and all politicians respond as a leaf on the winds. The only thing worse would be Donald Trump. He is the worst sort of demagoge — a Narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 5:21 pm

“a Narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur.”
Obviously got the two mixed up (in your head) so must be a rabid liberal (see VOX article below):
Per Colin Powell: “Powell described Hillary Clinton as having “a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, and not transformational.”
Of course Powell doesn’t like Trump either but his reasons are more because Trump is anti-globalist.
Now Trump is no Saint (perhaps we should run a preacher/oh wait many of those have sordid backgrounds also) but his “nationalism” makes a lot more sense than Clinton’s “globalism” so personally I don’t much care about his personal idiosyncrasies, especially when numerous past presidents/politicians, sometimes some of the best, were quite flawed. The hypocrisy occurs when the sins of one are ignored and the other deemed to be righteous based on conscious ignorance of material facts. If you actually think that Hillary’s America, which would be the starting point for a downfall similar to Europe’s which is in progress, then you should move there, say Sweden (or even Santa Ana):

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 5:33 pm

In the American political system, an outright “narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur” (in this case read as Trump, not Clinton) would be controlled by the majorities of both parties.
Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, will be given free reign by all of one party. and will be negotiated with by a portion of the other party.
A Clinton in office is much more likely to be damaging that a Trump in office.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 5:40 pm

lorcanbonda: “a Narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur”
That’s a perfect description of Canada’s Justin Trudeau. Then there was Mulroney, and before him..

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 5:57 pm

If you kick the crap out of both major political Party, and the corporate mass media establishments, you get some grandeur points, in my book . . ’cause that’s grand ; )

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 6:31 pm

lorcanbonda says: October 12, 2016 at 4:32 pm
… a Narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur.

and a short-fingered vulgarian.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 12, 2016 7:03 pm

Bad assumption on the new to politics. I just still believe in the quaint, old-fashion notion that a politician who wants my vote should not lie repeatedly to my face when both know its a lie. The Democrats have fallen in love with the Big Lie. I haven’t and never will. I refuse to be assimilated.
The important point you miss about todays dysfunctional DC political system is that it exists because Senate Democrats have given the current President, as they will Hillary too, immunity from removal from office. That has invited a whole spectrum of bad behaviors and illegal activities within the current administration. Frustration with that situation from Republicans and the Americans are the symptoms of that dysfunction, not the cause.
President Trump will have to behave (follow the law and constitution) or he will be removed. Hillary Clinton will get the immunity idol from the Senate Democrats and will behave badly or even worse than Obama has.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 12:20 am

“The only thing worse would be Donald Trump. He is the worst sort of demagogue — a Narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur.”
“[You] [o]bviously got the two mixed up (in your head) so must be a rabid liberal (see VOX article below)”
You two need to embrace the power of the word “and” – both of these candidates are pathetic excuses for human beings. Trump is your textbook narcissist, who basks in his own ignorance and seems to think people should vote for him just because of his own self-perceived greatness. He allows himself to be led by the nose into traps any intelligent person would see coming, just because someone insults him personally. He is, to put it bluntly, too stupid to be President.
Clinton is a venal, Napoleonic little power monger who will do anything, say anything, break any law, cheat, and ruin any person’s life so long as doing any of these things further her own ambition for more power. When assuming the office of Secretary of State she was faced with a choice of prioritizing the need to protect her own secrets or the country’s secrets. We all know which choice she made. She had her own spies in the DNC spiking Sanders’ candidacy. She advised Obama to topple Qaddaffi in Libya for no apparent reason (since Libya had voluntarily dismantled its WMD and was cooperating on counter-terrorism efforts). Once Qaddaffi was overthrown, the country plunged into chaos, from which the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were killed. In order to mislead the public about her own ineptitude she peddled the fiction that these people were killed in a protest over a video, pointedly blaming the filmmaker over the course of weeks. She promised the families of the dead Americans she would have this filmmaker arrested, and sure enough about a week later he was. This guy is now in hiding due to the threats on his life, is broke from his legal fees, and pretty much had his life ruined simply because Clinton needed a scapegoat to distract from her own failures in the run-up to the last presidential election.
And I haven’t even brought up the criminal enterprise known as the Clinton Foundation. In the unlikely event Trump gets elected, I can’t imaging being more embarrassed that a plurality voted for this schmuck. If Clinton gets elected, I can’t imagine being more ashamed that a plurality voted for someone so obviously and thoroughly corrupt. I personally plan on writing in Mickey Mouse.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 1:11 am

“…writing in Mickey Mouse”
Kurt, then you (and everybody else like you) will be EFFECTIVELY voting for HRC. Hold your nose and vote for the “least worst” of the two…

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 2:53 am

“Kurt, then you (and everybody else like you) will be EFFECTIVELY voting for HRC. Hold your nose and vote for the “least worst” of the two…”
No, I will not be voting for either of them. There is no such thing as an “effective” vote in a Presidential election for anyone other than who you vote for. If I write in Mickey Mouse, or vote for myself, or the Libertarian candidate for that matter, there is no way that can be twisted into a vote for Clinton, or a vote for Trump. Why for example, did you say I was effectively voting for Clinton? Why couldn’t a Clinton supporter argue that I’m effectively voting for Trump just because I didn’t vote for Clinton? Certainly, I can’t “effectively” vote for both when I cast a single ballot.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 7:37 am

Write in votes, such as Mickey Mouse, aren’t counted. Vote for one of the minor parties that you agree with the most. It won’t affect the outcome this year, but it’s a better way of sending a message.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 3:54 pm

Kurt, have you ever heard of ralph nader? Left leaning peops who voted for nader in 2000 (especially floridians) “effectively” voted for bush. Let me ask you, of the two before us today (DJT & HRC) which do you prefer? Or for that matter, which do you least prefer?
Mark, sounds like your making a prediction here (!) Who do ya think is movin’ into 1600 pennsylvania avenue? ☺

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 3:58 pm

Sorry, Mark, i misunderstood your comment… (who do you think is going to win anyway?)

Reply to  afonzarelli
October 19, 2016 12:03 pm

Tangential but relevant. Russian cyber propaganda against Ukrainian nuclear power
In early 2015 there were several stories in Russian owned, English language, online news sites (Sputnik, RT, …) dissing Ukrainian nuclear power plants. The usual antinuclear power scare stories about how doom and cataclysm were but an neutron breadth away.
Several people noticed a whole group of tweets dissing Ukrainian nuclear power too. These tweets were remarkably uniform and the accounts far too uniform. They were almost certainly high-jacked, or fake accounts, operated by an anti-nuclear spam bot!

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 9:15 pm

“Trump is your textbook narcissist who basks in his own ignorance and seems to think people should vote for him just because of his own self-perceived greatness.”
You look like “my” textbook narcissist, sir. You haven’t offered a single example, let alone evidence/explanation for any of your claims/accusations about Mr. Trump, apparently because you feel that YOU spouting them is sufficient.
” He allows himself to be led by the nose into traps any intelligent person would see coming, just because someone insults him personally. He is, to put it bluntly, too stupid to be President.”
It’s easy to farm . . when you plow with a pencil ; )

Richard G.
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 14, 2016 1:13 am
Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 4:37 pm

The preceding public announcement was brought to you by….
The Clinton Foundation….Clinton for President
Paid for by “all the wrong people are telling me to not vote for Trump”

Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 4:42 pm

Do you honestly want to listen to that damn cackle for eight years?

Joe Wagner
Reply to  afonzarelli
October 12, 2016 11:13 pm

I was going to make a comment about her health keeping that from happening, but I’m sure they’d put her brain in a jar just so she can make it 8,,,

Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 4:49 pm

I agree more with what she says behind closed doors…open borders and one world government

Doug Allen
Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 5:33 pm

I agree.
Hillary is the Judith Curry of politics, very smart and informed, but with enemies who have for years demonized her because her political center left, but evidence based positions, are a threat to to some conservative narratives. The crass, politicized climate science narratives (and funding) have corrupted climate science. They say truth is the first casualty of war. We’re witnessing more. Civility, charity and evidence are additional victims. Civility and evidence, evidence and civility- that’s what’s missing from climate science and American politics.

Reply to  Doug Allen
October 12, 2016 5:57 pm

“Hillary is the Judith Curry of politics, very smart and informed”
What is the Russian equivalent to the English word “reset”, diplomatic Doug?
And how would a “very smart and informed” person go about answering that question?

Be nice to Hillary Clinton online — or risk a confrontation with her super PAC

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Doug Allen
October 12, 2016 7:18 pm

Doug Allen,
Please do tell what truths Hillary has told about:
1. Her email setup and the (C) in front of a paragraph (that even a low level staffer knows means Confidential, and therefore classified) is just paragraph marking.
2. Her co-mingling of Clinton syndicate business with her Sec State duties.
3. Her support of the Benghazi youtube video coverup.
The Clintons have the utmost contempt for “little people” (you, me, and everyone you know). As public servants, they have snubbed their noses at FOI, as it is apparently beneath them.
Her policy knowledge and experience is there, but her judgement on foreign affairs is seriously suspect. Her contempt for checks and balances is clear. Her health is seriously suspect and she is likely hiding serious neurological impairments/disease.
Conclusion: HRC is demonstrably more unfit for public office than the possibly unfit Trump.

Reply to  Doug Allen
October 13, 2016 7:39 am

Doug, so everything that has been said regarding cattle futures, Rose Firm billing records, her e-mail server, these were all just partisan attacks because of her left wing positions?
What flavor of kool-aid did they give you?

Doug Allen
Reply to  Doug Allen
October 13, 2016 10:33 am

Many replies to my post validate the sorry state of evidence and civility. Political and climate science narratives (also political) have drowned out and co-opted civility, rational debate, and evidence. I said Hilary Clinton, like Judith Curry whom I admire, is very smart and informed. If you disagree please cite the exact words you disagree with and why (sound famaliar!).
Maybe this is what the world has come to- a post-modernism where there is no criteria for truth, and narratives based on consensus and confirmation bias drown out everything evidence based. The louder and nastier the narrative, the less chance any rationality might prevail. I didn’t even say above that I like or would vote for Hillary. I may. I’m more likely to vote for Johnson-Weld, but the nasty tone of the narratives that dominate discussion (well, there’s not much discussion, just dueling narratives) is corrosive. It undermines listening to what others say and think. It encourages black and white thinking, false dichotomies. It appeals to the worst in us and not our better angels.

Joe Civis
Reply to  Doug Allen
October 13, 2016 12:47 pm

First I would like to say that Hillary should be in jail and that if anyone else had done only what she has admitted to rather than what has been proven she would be in jail and never ever be allowed to hold a security clearance again. Also in regards to Trump, no he is not the best choice but he is that best choice we currently have. Also here is a link to Thomas Sowell who wrote a nice short piece about words versus actions. It clearly outlines why her continued actions over years disqualifies her and that although not perfect Trump is a much better choice for America. http://thecitizen.com/opinion-columnists/trump-vs-clinton-words-vs-deeds

Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 6:10 pm

What she says (paraphrased) behind closed doors:
“Chuckle, Chuckle, Ha, Ha, it’s humorous that my pedophile rapist client beat the polygraph … and I am such a good lawyer that time served is all he got.”
“I sure am glad that Laura girl didn’t kill herself … Chelsea would have had to live with that. Then again I didn’t ever lose any sleep thinking about what I did to Vince, so Chelsea would probably get over it in a hurry to….”

Reply to  DonM
October 12, 2016 9:30 pm

Concerning Vince, see below attachments to court ruling/report & enjoy:

mark - Helsinki
Reply to  DonM
October 12, 2016 10:43 pm

unfortunately the media in the US force US citizens into a lesser of two evils trap, and it is a trap, the leaks also reveal complete collusion between Liberal media and the Democrats.
The leaks also reveal Hillary took donations from Russia and gave Russia control over 25% of US uranium production, the fracking stuff, is bollocks. Green groups hate fracking period. Nothing to do with Russia at all, it’s more to do with eco religion and pseudo science

Reply to  DonM
October 13, 2016 7:41 am

Eco groups may hate fracking, but they don’t have the resources to do more than whine to each other without outside funding.

Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 8:29 pm

So the Russians leaked emails* indicting the Russians while making Hillary look good. Tell me there is nothing fishy about all this!! 😉
*The Obama administration and Hillary Clinton both have accused Russia of leaking the emails.

Reply to  Scott Wilmot Bennett
October 13, 2016 2:04 pm

I was thinking the same thing. They have accused the Russians of just about anything wrong with their campaign, and the Russians didn’t even think to screen the emails they have supposedly hacked. Doesn’t make any sense.

mark - Helsinki
Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 10:41 pm

You are off your snack CBB, she has ties to frikkin ISIS in those leaks and it’s clear her sugar daddies the Saudis are actually funding ISIS
Furthermore it is revealed she is “beginning to hate” every day Americans.
She has Parkinson’s disease, her eyes cross, because the medication she takes causes one eye to move faster than the other, her head shakes, and she gets confused. Leaks show she is told when to smile.
Soros is her boss. Steyer too and no doubt Rockefeller, voting for Hillary is voting for them, and FYI, I am no fan of Trip to Trumpton either.
Clinton is a monster

Peter Miller
Reply to  CBB
October 12, 2016 11:25 pm

While the thought of Hillary as president is scary enough, what is really scary is if these elections result in both Houses of Congress being controlled by the Democrats as well.
Then there is nothing to stop all sorts of left wing, greenie, nonsense becoming law.
Where else in the world do you have a situation where if either candidate stood down their replacement would automatically become outright favourite to win the election?

mark - Helsinki
Reply to  Peter Miller
October 13, 2016 4:15 am

As an external observer Peter it is terrifying, so it must be more so for cognitively functional American citizens!!! With Clinton at the helm the world will burn

Reply to  CBB
October 13, 2016 7:15 am

If you can’t vote for Trump vote for the far superior Johnson+Weld ticket which due to the suicidally corrupt Duopoly Commission on Presidential Debates Americans will see on their ballots but know nothing about .

Reply to  CBB
October 13, 2016 7:34 am

You like the idea that she hates ordinary Americans?

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  CBB
October 13, 2016 2:12 pm

CBB – October 12, 2016 at 3:32 pm

The more I read of Hillary’s “leaked” emails, the more I am starting to like her as a candidate. I have been staunchly against her up until now. Since I can’t see ever voting for Trump, so I was going to forgo voting in the presidential election for the first time in my adult life.

CBB, you got more crapolla than a 3-seater community “outhouse”.
Like most paid-for Democrat “talking heads” that are on Hillary’s payroll,

Reply to  CBB
October 13, 2016 10:18 pm

What is the difference between Russia Oligarchs and George Soros, Hillary’s backer?
She could have been describing Soros’s actions.

October 12, 2016 3:35 pm

Does “that pipeline” refer to Keystone XL? A bit surprising that she views 350.org as a “phony environmental group”.
Is does the Russian funding explain why Secretary Clinton cleared Keystone, despite White House opposition?

NW sage
Reply to  Barry
October 12, 2016 4:16 pm

No. According to Clinton Cash (records from the Canadian information system), Keystone was approved by State shortly after a large ‘contribution – aka bribe – was paid to the Clinton Foundation by the Canadian owners of their part of the pipeline.

Reply to  NW sage
October 12, 2016 5:34 pm

Gotta grease them gears. Legalized bribery is what it is and it is rampant throughout politics and science. I wonder how much the Saudi’s have donated to the CF? More emails please.

Reply to  Barry
October 12, 2016 4:52 pm

She cleared Alberta Clipper Pipeline and got $22 million for it.
She stashed the money in a fake store front Clinton Foundation Canadian bank account and then funneled the money to Clinton Foundation in States without declaring where it came from
She got caught and had to refile 2009, 2010 and 2011 taxes.
Russia and Middle East stand to win by shutting down fracking here. US private land fracking collapsed their fossil fuel income.
Her emails show she bragged to Deustche Bank and Goldman Saks about spreading fracking and pushing it everywhere with the added benefit of collapsing prices.
But if her minions knew about it, they would pitch her into a fire. So she walks around with Al Gore and is her usual two faced Liar.

Reply to  empiresentry
October 12, 2016 5:37 pm

🙂 You must be one of the demonizers that Doug Allen is talking about 🙂

JD Ohio
Reply to  empiresentry
October 13, 2016 7:54 am

Links to pipeline shenigans please.

Tom Halla
October 12, 2016 3:37 pm

The radical greens are bad enough without outside funding. Why, pray tell, does the HRC campaign still take the anti-fracking groups at face value?

Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2016 5:35 pm

Useful idiots? I believe that is the phrase they use.

October 12, 2016 3:48 pm

I’m reminded of the final scene in “Blast From the Past”:
My gosh, those Commies are brilliant! You’ve got to hand it to ’em! “No, we didn’t drop any bombs! Oh yes, our evil empire has collapsed! Poor, poor us!” I bet they’ve even asked the West for aid! Right?!
Uh, I think they have.
Hah!!! Those cagey rascals! Those sly dissemblers! Those, uh… (he can’t think of another description, so he moves on) They’ve finally pulled the wool over everybody’s eyes!

October 12, 2016 3:53 pm

just wondering–has anyone presented real evidence about the Russians doing this, or is it just another Hillery fantasy???

Reply to  jvcstone
October 12, 2016 5:39 pm

Good point. I don’t doubt for a second that Russia (and Saudi Arabia for that matter) will look out for itself and its interests using any means but proof? The money laundering trail would go pretty deep and proving it could be hard.

Reply to  jvcstone
October 12, 2016 6:35 pm

Not a fantasy but rather a diversion.
Even IF it were the Russians (nobody knows) and that they favor Trump; if the e-mails are real (e.g. who cares whether Climategate e-mails were hacked or leaked) it is the content and not the source that counts.

Cold in Wisconsin
Reply to  jvcstone
October 13, 2016 12:31 am


Reply to  jvcstone
October 13, 2016 7:45 am

The Soviet archives showed that they were big backers of the so called peace movements back during the cold war.
As head of the KGB, Putin would have known about this.

Not Chicken Little
October 12, 2016 3:55 pm

Wait a minute – does Hillary think there is such a thing as a non-phony green group?

Reply to  Not Chicken Little
October 12, 2016 6:20 pm

NJSPOTLIGHT, July 11, 2016
Environmentalists Challenge Grid Operator’s New ‘Reliability’ Regulation
PJM is the grid operator.
According to this article a lawsuit was filed by:
Sierra Club
The Union of Concerned Scientists
U.S. environmental groups have gone after both coal and nuclear power plants to shut them down. And now it’s the power grid.
Read at:
More information on this topic online.

Reply to  Barbara
October 12, 2016 8:26 pm

American Thinker, Sept.29, 2016
Article mentions EarthJustice
Read at:
This issue was also recently brought up by WUWT.

Reply to  Barbara
October 13, 2016 1:04 pm

Union of Concerned Scientists, June 19, 2013
Press release:
UCS President John Knobloch appointed Chief of Staff to DOE Secretary Ernest Moniz.
More information on this topic online.

October 12, 2016 4:02 pm

The most important revelation from this election is that you’re allowed to get away with anything as long as you blame it on Russia.

Reply to  markstoval
October 12, 2016 4:19 pm


Reply to  Latitude
October 12, 2016 5:49 pm

Don’t be stingy. +1000

Leon Brozyna
October 12, 2016 4:17 pm

It’s all so many conspiracies by irredeemable, basement-dwelling deplorable religious basket cases, blindingly following Russian manipulation that’s trying to destroy Hillary’s munificent campaign to save us from … ourselves. Defender of oppressed pedophilic rapists and other sterling pillars of the community. All noble actions done without seeking a penny for herself, while smiling kindly on all she surveys…

Bennett In Vermont
Reply to  Leon Brozyna
October 12, 2016 5:27 pm

I hate being surveyed. Well done.

Leon Brozyna
Reply to  Bennett In Vermont
October 12, 2016 10:02 pm

I could have done better…
It’s all so many conspiracies by irredeemable, basement-dwelling deplorable religious basket cases, blindingly following Russian manipulation that’s trying to destroy Hillary’s munificent campaign to save us from … ourselves. Defender of oppressed pedophilic rapists and other sterling pillars of the community. All noble actions done without seeking a penny for herself, while smiling magnanimously down on all she surveys with the only jarring note being that vast right-wing conspiracy that’s stirring up trouble amongst all her inferiors (everyone) who don’t know better without her guidance.
And with more input from Wiki-Leaks, it could be made even better.

kevin kilty
October 12, 2016 4:36 pm

How could Russian funding of fake green groups do any more damage than the demented sincerity of our home grown and funded green idiots?

Reply to  kevin kilty
October 12, 2016 5:10 pm

Next, Tom Steyer must be a Russian agent… I bet it’s Putin in disguise and the Rockefeller Brothers too, as well as Tides, Hewlett, Packard, Pew Charitable Foundations, Gordon & Betty Moore, David Suzuki: all Putin!
Thomson Reuters, Trudeau carbon tax? All Putin!
EU silly environmental laws? Putin, Putin, Putin!
The Clinton Foundation?…. Yes…. him too. Global warming?…. yep.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  TomRude
October 12, 2016 7:38 pm

As for carbon taxes, it’s not about solving Climate Change or lessening climate alarmism.
30 yrs ago weknew what it was about.
Ronald Reagan on taxes (back when he had the Russians by the balls):
1. “Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
2. “We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much.”
3. “Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15.”
4. “No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth!”
5. “Simple fairness dictates that government must not raise taxes on families struggling to pay their bills.”
6. “Government does not tax to get the money it needs; government always finds a need for the money it gets.”
7. “You can’t be for big government, big taxes, and big bureaucracy and still be for the little guy.”
8. “The American people are not undertaxed, the government in Washington is overfed.”
9. “Whenever we lower the tax rates, our entire nation is better off.”

October 12, 2016 4:36 pm

Evidence? There are pages upon pages of media reports mostly from 2014 and 2015. NATO commanders say so too. Here are some.
2014: Nato cheif tells Guardian
2014: NATO Head: Russia Is Funding Anti-fracking Movement (New American)
2014: NY Times
2014: Russia’s Quiet War Against European Fracking (Foreign Policy)
2014: Russian media (especially RT) consistented scaremongered over fracking (National Review)
2015: EIA: 50% of Russian 2013 revenue came from oil and gas taxes (American Spectator)

A shadowy Bermudan company that has funneled tens of millions of dollars to anti-fracking environmentalist groups in the United States is run by executives with deep ties to Russian oil interests and offshore money laundering schemes involving members of President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle.

2015: Is Russia Financing The Anti-Fracking Campaign? (PowerLine)
2015: Oil Co exec tells Forbes

October 12, 2016 4:37 pm

Which side got the idea first?

October 12, 2016 4:42 pm

Since the US does similar stuff to Russia, we know who inspired their actions. Blowback again!

Bennett In Vermont
Reply to  Jon
October 12, 2016 5:32 pm

Sorry, but you should read some history. Russia has been the master of this stuff since around 1900, famously so in Indochina and its successful manipulation of the wars in Korea and Vietnam. They play the long game, and they are masters of it.

Reply to  Bennett In Vermont
October 12, 2016 7:10 pm

You make an excellent point and you are right. Just read this book, ” And not a shot fired” by Jan Kozak, a Check spy master in the late 40’s. He describes on how the East used WWII “refugees” that in the long term would overtake Western bureaucracies and hand cuff the system by over regulating all facets of our society.

Reply to  Jon
October 13, 2016 7:48 am

It really is fascinating how to the left, all bad things originate with the US.

October 12, 2016 5:08 pm

>b> “Clinton is aware that Russia is pouring millions of dollars into Western green groups, particularly anti-fracking groups, in an attempt to hobble America’s domestic energy market”
So do other non-Russian entities pour large sums into western groups.
Even American entities! https://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2015/08/15/the-rockefellers-who-they-fund-from-their-web-site/

October 12, 2016 5:42 pm

It’s only fair after Obama, Clinton et al war-mongering and subversive provocations.

October 12, 2016 5:43 pm

Nothing a nice donation to the Clinton Foundation can’t solve 🙂

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  TRM
October 12, 2016 7:44 pm

You need to have at least $6million laying around to throw at the Clinton’s to get them to pay you any attention. That exclusive club shuts out lowly millionaires, even multi-millionaires.
The Clinton Crime Syndicate milked many millions from foreign billionaires and governments for pay-to-play favors from Secretary Clinton.

October 12, 2016 5:53 pm

In view of what NATO has been willing to do to balkanise the Middle East (Central Asia is next!) I can understand Russia’s anxiety. I can also understand Trump’s support of energy self-sufficiency for the US. (Hillary might say it because it sounds cool, but those Gulf States don’t give out tens of millions to the Clinton Foundation because they like Hill’s position on gay marriage.)
Russia, understandably, wants to sell gas and oil (eg increased Nordstream output) while blocking opponents like Qatar and discouraging alternatives like fracked US domestic oil. The US has the tech to frack, Russia has the stuff more accessible but needs to get the geopolitics right for high volume/low price. Would Russia encourage some tree-hugging to help its case? Wouldn’t you?
Big Green has always been connected to branches of Big Oil in various tangled ways. All those millions Chesapeake was pouring into Sierra for its War on Coal (till Greenpeace and others squealed) are an indication that Big Oil knows its real competitors are coal and nukes. Green basket-case South Australia has been a goldmine for retailers of fossil fuels in their most expensive forms, and every wind turbine is a boost for the gas/diesel/generator industries. (“Transitional” is greenspeak meaning “gas forever”.) Meanwhile, the hopelessly underpowered state’s huge potential as a centre for all things nuclear just goes to waste.
While it’s encouraging to think that Hillary has been able to work out the obvious when it comes to Russia, her opinion has been coloured by a desire to have yet another (bungled/lost) war on behalf of all those donors. Do you hear Lockheed Martin or Boeing complaining? Qatar objecting?
I like me some oil and gas, but I’m no more interested in promoting them over coal and nukes than I would want to defend Coke against Pepsi. In fact, as an Australian, I’m a touch bewildered by our neglect of our vast coal and uranium reserves and our willingness to edge deeper into the world’s pipeline and sea lane wars than we need to.
Down with neocons, down with globalists, down with Big Green.
Up with the luscious Permian black coal of the Sydney-Gunnedah-Bowen Basin!
And work for peace, people.

October 12, 2016 6:15 pm

So, in an email allegedly hacked and released by Russia, Hillary claims that Russia is covertly funding anti-fracking activists in the U.S.
Another email in the Wikileaks release shows that Donna Brazile, the current head of the Democratic National Committee, and then a CNN contributor tipped off the Clinton campaign on a question Hillary would receive in a town hall.
From time to time I get the questions in advance,” Brazile wrote to Clinton’s communications director Jennifer Palmieri on March 12, 2016.
Brazile released a statement Tuesday about the emails and said, “As it pertains to the CNN Debates, I never had access to questions and would never have shared them with the candidates if I did.” She claimed Russia is behind Wikileaks and added, “We are in the process of verifying the authenticity of these documents.”
Only someone with a serious neurological deficit could believe it.

Robert of Ottawa
October 12, 2016 6:27 pm

Canada take heed

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
October 13, 2016 7:54 am

Nothing to worry about. We elected a drama teacher as PM…

October 12, 2016 6:59 pm

Love the way people who are so sceptical about Global Warming claims will uncritically suck up claims about evil Russia.

Reply to  RoHa
October 13, 2016 7:50 am

There is evidence for one, there is no evidence for the other.

October 12, 2016 7:23 pm

Russia’s economy requires oil prices to be over $100/bbl for stability and growth.
America’s rapidly expanding fracking industry, combined with Saudi Arabia dumping millions of barrels/day in excess of global demand (to make US fracking unprofitable), led to oil prices collapsing from $100/bbl to $40/bbl (currently rebounded to $50/bbl), which has destroyed the Russian economy.
To create political instability in the Middle East (favorable for higher oil prices) Russia has aligned with Iran to create a Sunni/Shiite schism, while backing the Assad regime in Syria. Russia has also funded anti-fracking AstroTurf eco-wacko groups in the US to hurt the US fracking industry.
Obama stupidly made one of the worst treaties in US history by giving Iran $150 billion to fund Shiite terrorism around the world, and assuring Iran becomes a nuclear power within 5 years. This idiotic treaty assures a Middle East nuclear arms race and long-term instability in the region, which is favorable to Russia’s oil industry.
To get the Russian peoples’ minds off the dismal Russian economy and foster nationalism, Russia successfully invaded and took control of Crimea, invaded Ukraine and is now threatening war in the Baltic States.
Putin played 3-D chess and stategized 10 moves ahead, while incompetent Obama and his 3rd-string political-hack Secretaries of State (Hillary and Kerry) played checkers like 5 year olds with blindfolds over their eyes…
Just imagine what Putin will do if Hillary becomes president….

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  SAMURAI
October 12, 2016 7:58 pm

Completely 100% agree with you that the Iran Deal will go down as the worst ever appeasement, even beating the Chamberlain-Hitler appeasement.
That one by Neville Chamberlain “only” led to the killing of 6 million Jews, Romas, and gays. Iran will wipe out many millions of Isrealis of all religions/culture, while provoking a regional nuclear war that will wipe out many more millions in Tehran, Rihyad, Damascus and maybe Bagdad.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 2:03 pm

Iran got back the money that was always theirs, plus interest. From the 1970s to now we never claimed the money was ours.
As for the nuclear deal, the Republicans tried to stop the Iranian nuclear program for eight years and had zero success. Iran was forging ahead despite threats of attack, sabotage and sanctions. Also, I have to doubt Iraq would have allowed US elite forces into Iraq to fight ISIS if Iran had opposed it. And Iran would likely have opposed if we were still threatening to invade over the nuclear war. So your rants about the worst deal ever” don’t have much credibility.
The simple fact is that Iran was never going to shut down their nuclear program entirely, and there is no way short of war we could have forced them to do so. And war with Iran, even if successful, would likely have completed the destruction of the U.S. economy.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 13, 2016 5:07 pm

Tom Port: “The simple fact is that Iran was never going to shut down their nuclear program entirely, and there is no way short of war we could have forced them to do so.”
We should have gone to war and forced them. I agree, the Mad Mullahs of Iran would not give up their ace in the hole voluntarily. We should have made them give it up, when it would have been a whole lot easier. Eventually, there *will* be a war over it, but the Mad Mullahs will be in much better shape to carry out such a conflict the longer we leave them unmolested.
Tom Port: “And war with Iran, even if successful, would likely have completed the destruction of the U.S. economy.”
Not even close. G. W. Bush had the troops in place to take out the Mad Mullahs. There were hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops on each side of Iran, in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Iranian military would have surrendered, and the Mad Mullah’s Revolutionary Guard would have gone down to defeat about as quickly as Saddam’s Iraqi army (a matter of weeks). Plus, the Iranian people were ready to overthrow the Mad Mullahs and would have welcomed an American invasion. They would probably still welcome a U.S. invasion, although there’s no chance of that happening now with out current crop of shortsighted, hesitant American politicians.
Alas, G.W., like his father before him, could not see the Big Picture and left a growing problem for us to deal with. George H.W., left Saddam Insane in power after the first Gulf War in 1990, and we had to go back and do it all over again in 2003, and his son G.W. leaves the Mad Mullahs in power and we are going to have to go back and do that all over again, too. Only this time, the Mad Mullahs will possibly have some Barack Obama-nukes to use.
Pay a little now, or pay a whole lot later. That is the basis for a sound, safe future. You are not going to get out of paying. You just have to figure out how much you want to pay. I, personally, don’t want to pay any more than I have to, which means deal with the problems now, not later. Nip the problem in the bud. If you don’t do that, the problem will just get worse and worse until you are forced to do something about it, only now you are in a much worse position than if you had acted when the problem could have been contained.
The whole situation would look a whole lot different had Bush taken out the Mad Mullahs when he had the chance. You have to strike when the iron is hot. Our leadership failed us, and has left us in a precarious position.

Reply to  TA
October 13, 2016 5:35 pm

TA Maybe you are a military expert. I am not. But Iran is a country of some 65 millIon people and has a fairly sophisticated military and technological aparratus. We have been in Afghanistan for 15 years and we are still nowhere. We still cant beat ISIS although we are probably getting close in Iraq. But how much have we spent in theMid East? A couple trillion? What do we have to show for it? And then there is Russia which would certainly have backed Iran as it borders on Russia. When Russia fired a cruise mission from the Caspian sea they were sending us a message. But there are always those who cant wait to get us into another war.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 14, 2016 6:18 pm

Tom Port October 13, 2016 at 5:35 pm wrote: “TA Maybe you are a military expert. I am not. But Iran is a country of some 65 millIon people and has a fairly sophisticated military and technological apparatus.”
So was Saddam’s Iraq. They had equivalent militaries. Recall that Iraq and Iran fought each other to a standstill on several occasions.
TP: “We have been in Afghanistan for 15 years and we are still nowhere.”
That would be because Barack Obama is not interested in winning that war. His dereliction of duty in Afghanistan is about to result in the Taliban retaking the country. Simply because of lack of effort on Obama’s part.
TP: “We still cant beat ISIS although we are probably getting close in Iraq.”
We could destroy the Islamic Terror Army in a matter of weeks, if we decided to put in sufficient forces. Instead, Obama has allowed them to run rampant across the Middle East for years destroying and murdering the innocent. Obama acts like an innocent bystander to all the mayhem.
TP: “But how much have we spent in theMid East? A couple trillion?
At least that much. When figuring in costs, figure in the cost of the dead and maimed Americans who got that way because of Iranian sophisticated IED’s that were supplied to Iraqi terrorists during the war. Iran is *still* sending IED’s into Iraq to kill Americans. That alone is justification enough for me to favor attacking the Mad Mullahs militarily. There is a whole long list of other justification that could be listed also. The Mad Mullahs have a murderous history with the U.S.
TP: “What do we have to show for it?”
Well, before Barack Obama took over and threw all the Iraqi gains away, Iraq was doing pretty good. Bush had run Al Qaeda in Iraq (later to become ISIS) *out* of Iraq by 2008, and Iraq was settling down and starting to carry out the normal business of a country. They had their first free elections, and we saw many smiling Iraqis proudly holding up their purple-stained fingers showing they had voted. Lots of Iraqi entrepreneurs were seen all over Iraq, making things better a little bit at a time. No carbombs went off in Baghdad from 2008 until about two weeks after President Obama pulled all U.S. combat troops out of Iraq in Dec. 2011. G.W. Bush had turned Iraq into a success story (even Obama tried to take credit in 2011, for how well Iraq was doing), and then Obama pulled all the U.S. troops our and turned Iraq and the entire Middle East into a horror story because of his pacifism and bad judgement.
TP: “And then there is Russia which would certainly have backed Iran as it borders on Russia.
I don’t think so. Russia would have made noises, but that is all they would have done. Remember, this was before Russia’s leader lost respect for the U.S. president. At that time, Russia still had to deal with Bush and they could not count on him backing down like they can now with Obama. But the bottom line is we cannot allow Russia, or any other country to determine how we pursue our national security. If it is in our national security interests, we do it. If someone doesn’t like it, that’s too bad. We are prepared to defend our actions.
TP: “When Russia fired a cruise mission from the Caspian sea they were sending us a message.”
They would not have sent the same message while Bush was in Office. Or if they did, they may have gotten a reply back.
TP: “But there are always those who cant wait to get us into another war.”
I hope you are not referring to me in that respect. I’m not eager for war, but if you see a war coming on the horizon, then you should prepare for it, and you should try to limit the damage to yourself as much as possible. Allowing maniacs to gather their power for long periods of time is not the way to limit damage to yourself. Pretending war is not coming, as most Leftists do, is not a way to limit damage, either.
The timeframe I am talking about for dealing with Iran was right after G.W. Bush had defeated Saddam’s Iraqi army. Bush was on a roll, and the U.S. military looked unstoppable, which is probably why Libya’s Mooemar Kaddafy (there are dozens of spellings of this guy’s name, that’s mine) decided it was time to give up his nuclear weapons program. No doubt fearing Bush would be knocking on his door next. So Kadaffy gave up his nuke program (the nuclear bomb plans were written in Chinese, btw). Bush had the psychological edge on the Bad Guys.
At the same time, the Iranian people were clamoring for more freedom and were demonstrating against the Mad Mullahs. I have no doubt that the U.S. military would have made short work of the Iranian military and the Revolutionary Guard if it had come to that, but I do think the regular Iranian military (who have no love for the Revolutionary Guards) could have been talked into remaining in their barracks while U.S. forces mopped up the Revolutionary Guards.
I honestly don’t even think it would have taken an invasion of Iran. I think if Bush had just convinced everyone that he was going to go in, and then moved U.S. troops into position to invade, that that alone would have been all it would take for the Iranian people to go into the streets and throw off their Mad Rulers. All they were looking for was someone to cover their back.
Of course, you never know for sure how people are going to react psychologically to the situation. But that’s how I think it could have worked. Human psychology is 90 percent of war and I think the time was right to have done something positive with Iran (a small war is much better than a big war).
Leftists are totally unsuited to dealing with national security matters. They screw it up every time they are put in charge. They screwed it up in South Vietnam, they screwed it up in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and they are screwing it up now with Iran, North Korea, China and Russia. They are in over their heads, and unfortunately, our enemies know it, and are acting accordingly, taking advantage where they can.
We don’t get to opt out of war. Obama tried that in Iraq. Look what that got him. Obama forgot that the only way to end a war is when *both* sides stop fighting. If only one side stops fighting, the war is still not over. We can’t just quit and go home. The war will follow us home.
It would be wonderful if we lived in a world devoid of murderous psychopaths but that is not the case, and we have to deal with these psychopaths, otherwise they will kill us. And we can’t have that.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  SAMURAI
October 13, 2016 2:42 am

It`s not a treaty, they have to be OK`d by the US congress.

Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
October 13, 2016 7:03 am

“A rose by any other name would smell as”…..rank…
The Iranian “deal” was one of the worst in US history and will likely end in a mushroom cloud over Israel.

Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
October 13, 2016 7:52 am

Followed by several dozen mushroom clouds over Iran.

Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
October 13, 2016 9:47 am

There is a sect of Islam called “The 12ers”, whose sole ambition is to bring about Armageddon, which will cause the “12 Imam” to return to earth and establish a worldwide Caliphate for all eternity….
When dealing with Islamic Jihadists, never rule out crazy…

October 12, 2016 7:36 pm

If we had anyone capable of hacking the russians, we’d be getting leaks of Hillary asking “OK. How much?”

Frank K.
October 12, 2016 8:12 pm

My favorite part of this election cycle is the wholesale destruction of the left-wing news media, as seen in the shocking WIkileaks e-mails. They have been exposed as biased liars for the whole worlds to see. I have removed and blocked their content (and advertisers) from my television, smart phone, and computer browsers, and will never, ever let them into my home again. They are gone…

Reply to  Frank K.
October 12, 2016 9:44 pm

Agreed; D’souza said it best:
“Never before have I seen the media so aggressively huffing and puffing to drag this crooked hag across the finish line.”

Reply to  Frank K.
October 13, 2016 7:53 am

The problem is that for the vast majority of low information voters, it doesn’t exist unless they see it on the nightly news.
We are reading about these revelations, but the MSM is ignoring them.

James at 48
October 12, 2016 8:26 pm

The SVR has tentacles into both radical Greens and radical Alt-Right groups. It’s called the Scissors Strategy.

Walter Sobchak
October 12, 2016 9:33 pm

The brilliant Richard Fernandez, was on this a month ago:
“Hybrid Warfare” By Richard Fernandez on September 9, 2016
“Whether or not Hillary was actually the target of bribery, extortion or disinformation the existence of unaudited communications channels with foreign politicians and institutions designed to accept donations is significant. For these must surely represent a point of vulnerability to hybrid warfare. That it’s Hillary’s server and Clinton’s foundation is incidental. It is the existence of the pathway which is significant because it admits a blade which can cut either way.”
Hillary has been openly solicitng bribes for a long time. My guess is that the Russians and the Arabs have bought her several times over. And they have video tape to make sure she stays bought. They also own the “environmental”. Remember when Algore sold his worthless TV network for half a billion dollars.

October 12, 2016 10:04 pm

Are there any genuine ‘Green Groups’ out there these days? The environment always seems very low on the agenda of most ‘Green Groups’.

Reply to  ntesdorf
October 13, 2016 1:53 am

The conservationists are still there, getting on with the good work.
Don’t call them “green” though, you might get punched in the nose.

October 12, 2016 10:36 pm

theeuroprobe.org 2015 – 009 Russian connection to Anti Fracking activists ? Mick G Posted on 29 January, 2015 | Leave a comment | Edit Political blog by Bishop Hill Antifracking: the Russian connection ? Jan 28, 2015 Energy: gas Foreign Via Instapundit comes an article from the Washington Free Beacon which reports that money is being funnelled to anti-fracking activists by a mysterious company in Bermuda with links to the Russian oil business:A shadowy Bermudan company that has funneled tens of millions of dollars to anti-fracking environmentalist groups in the United States is run by executives with deep ties to Russian oil interests and offshore money laundering schemes involving members of President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle.One of those executives, Nicholas Hoskins, is a director at a hedge fund management firm that has invested heavily in Russian oil and gas. He is also senior counsel at the Bermudan law firm Wakefield Quin and the vice president of a London-based investment firm whose president until recently chaired the board of the state-owned Russian oil company Rosneft.The findings are based on a report by the US Environmental Policy Alliance. I don’t think a fire has been found yet, but the quantities of smoke are prodigious.Update on Jan 28, 2015 by Registered CommenterBishop Hill A little Googling shows that Hans-Joerg Rudloff, the chairman of Marcuard, a UK company named in the report, is a former director of Barclays Capital and a close associate of Suleiman Kerimov, who is a significant shareholder in Gazprom.
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mark - Helsinki
October 12, 2016 10:45 pm

Read Podesta emails leak, Soros emails leak and DNC, Hillary and the democrats rigged the primaries for a Clinton win, Clinton is also colluding with the s\pac, that’s actually illegal

October 13, 2016 12:04 am

I suppose she thinks it OK for American entities (Soros, Tides, Rockefeller, Moore etc.) to do the same thing to Canadian natural resource and pipeline operators.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  mrmethane
October 13, 2016 2:46 am

Thankyou CH4.

Cold in Wisconsin
October 13, 2016 12:27 am

1. If Russia is has hacked anything more damning than politics as usual, our friend Mr. Putin will have the most effective blackmail machine in history. Hillary has nine lives when it comes to avoiding indictment, but when she’s elected, expect Vlad to have her right where he wants her. Can you imagine the only husband and wife to be elected President AND be impeached? She’d sell the country out in a minute if it keeps her from consequences.
2. The media is worse than biased. Observe the recent revelations of bowing to the democratic throne. We might as well have a state sponsored propaganda machine the way it is appearing at present.

David Cage
October 13, 2016 12:30 am

A US politician I met once said of the current generation. The US now has the best politicians money can buy.

October 13, 2016 1:07 am

The Communists didn’t go away after losing the Cold War. They infiltrated the West and have accomplished things they never could have on the outside. And one of their main stated goals was to undermine Capitalists with economically disastrous Environmentalist hoaxes.
Meanwhile, leftists ridicule any discussion about communists as crazy conspiracy talk, claiming they don’t exist anymore. They use the same tactic on many subjects. Because they’ve lost the arguments, they simply silence opponents.
But the fact is, the President was raised and mentored by Communists and obviously believes their anti-American, anti-Christian false propaganda. And commie sympathizes in the media never discussed this.
Likewise, the German Chancellor was raised in Communist East Germany because her father (nicknamed “Red Kasner”) moved there when everyone else was trying to escape because Stalin was sealing the border. And today that Chancellor is leading a hostile foreign invasion of Germany using foreign mercenaries, which is supported and partly paid for by Obama. Coincidence?

James at 48
Reply to  LarryFine
October 13, 2016 4:19 pm

And therefore, we should all bow to Tsar Putin, the savior of Mankind? / sarc

October 13, 2016 1:50 am

These international acts of cuddleism have got to be stopped before they start harming the children.

October 13, 2016 2:20 am

an old story, I think:
The Russians certainly aren’t funding all environmental groups or even all those opposed to fracking…

Reply to  Griff
October 13, 2016 7:56 am

Notice how the troll tries to move the goal posts.
A grand total of nobody ever claimed that all of these groups are being funded by the Russians.

October 13, 2016 3:43 am

Q: Who really runs US/world politics? A: not politicians or countries, it’s the central banksters, from behind the curtains.
Book: The Creature from Jekyll Island, by G. Edward Griffin. A history of central banking & the Fed in particular. The chapter summaries can be read in about one hour.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1onXAaI
49 mins.
Or, put in youtube search box: Revealed; The Men Who Own and Run the US Government
John Doran.

Reply to  jdseanjd
October 13, 2016 7:58 am

Next thing, you will be ranting about being crucified on a cross of gold.

Reply to  MarkW
October 14, 2016 3:26 am

Griffin’s newsletter: http://www.needtoknow.news
Educate yourself, don’t just sling ignorant insults.

October 13, 2016 3:50 am

PS: Griffin is bright enough to have realised, & he states it openly & fully, that the CAGW “environmental” scam is part of the central banksters drive toward a one world totalitarian govt.
Putin appears to be thwarting this drive in Ukraine & Syria.
I wish I could be confident he was the real deal,

Gary Pearse
October 13, 2016 7:23 am

Trump disappoints for many reasons, I get that, but the naivety of many commenters on how past presidents (of USA and most other countries) have behaved with women is rich. The much loved and regarded Kennedys take no back seat to Trump in their lusty pursuits. Bill Clinton is the worst and unbridled felon of all. Its idiocy to decide to vote for someone like Hillary because Trump squeezed a bottom or two. Hillary will say anything about the economy, terrorism, health care, the poor to get elected and will then ignore this and carry on dismantling America and globalizing the lefty distruction of civilization to furthering the new world order of elites doing what is best for themselves. We know her real platform. Donald Trump is at least put out 100million of his own money so is unbeholden to the elites. He is the best choice if you want to keep your constitution, get things built, overturn the scary works of the international marksbrothers and prevent an activist lefty supreme court lasting 50 years, or however long as necessary to kill the constitution and American economic might. You only have to hold your nose for 4 years.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 13, 2016 5:48 pm

“Its idiocy to decide to vote for someone like Hillary because Trump squeezed a bottom or two.”
It should be pointed out that there is no evidence of Trump doing such a thing. Just accusations from the Left.

October 13, 2016 7:32 am

After the Soviet Union fell, their archives showed that many, perhaps even most of the so called Peace groups were funded by the Soviets.

Reply to  MarkW
October 13, 2016 9:04 am

Is there something wrong with wanting peace??? Seems to me to be preferable to funding the war all the time groups.

Reply to  jvcstone
October 13, 2016 6:03 pm

“Is there something wrong with wanting peace???”
There is nothing wrong with wanting peace. Any sane person wants peace.
The problem is the real world is not peaceful. There are insane people out there in the greater world who do NOT want peace, and the only way to deal with them is to confront them.
Wishing they didn’t exist, or would go away, doesn’t work. The bullies and bad guys don’t care if you want peace., They see that as a weakness and an invitation to take advantage of you. They only understand force. I’m sorry, but that’s the way it is.

Reply to  MarkW
October 13, 2016 5:53 pm

I wonder is John Kerry got any of that communist money when he met with the North Vietnamese communists in Paris? No, he probably did it for free (undermine the U.S./SouthVietnamese war effort that is).

October 13, 2016 9:11 am

I tend to discount the ad hominems and other nonsense, and since we are not electing a minister or Boy Scout leader Trumps boorish, sexist, behavior is not a serious concern for me either. I do think he would promote our oil and gas energy independence, and probably nuclear also. Can he actually renegotiate our terrrible trade deals without destroying our exports and triggering a world wide trade war? Maybe. Nor sure, but it could be worth a try. At least he would do something about open borders whereas Hillary never will. As for foreign policy he is “pro-Russia” perhaps, but while we do need to support our alliances with Western Europe I dont see why we stick our noses into Ossetia, Crimea and East Ukraine, as well as other areas in Russian’s back yard.
Bottom line is Trump wants to rebuild our country’s economy which requires increasing our industrial production, technology, etc. We must vastly improve our education system but it will take more than just attacking teachers. It will take money. SAme for our infrastructure. It will cost a bundle but will put money in peoples pockets. Where will the money come from without more taxes? Trump has never explained.

Reply to  Tom Port
October 13, 2016 6:14 pm

“Where will the money come from without more taxes? Trump has never explained.”
Trump is counting on vigorous economic growth to increase the tax revenues to the U.S. Treasury. His estimation is with his taxcuts he can get U.S. GDP up to the 3.5 to 4 percent range (currently 1 percent growth) and keep it there.
Tax cuts like Trump is proposing have worked to increase revenue to the U.S. Treasury every time they have been tried, such as with JFK and Reagan’s tax cuts. There is no reason to think it won’t happen the same way this time.
Lower tax rates will spur economic activity and could bring up to $5 TRILLION back into the United States from companies who have been holding their money overseas because of current sky-high U.S. tax rates (the highest in the world). That’s a lot of economic stimulus right there.
If Trump cuts the corporate tax the way he wants, he won’t have to worry about companies leaving the U.S. They are leaving because taxes are lower in other countries. If taxes are as low or lower in the U.S., then the companies will stay here and others will relocate here, especially considering our favorable energy situation.

Reply to  TA
October 14, 2016 12:43 am

Tax cuts will certainly help, but one fact to absorb is that under the current Western Rothschild central banking system, modeled on the Bank of England, ALL money is created out of thin air, as debt.
In other words, the money can be created if the political will is there.
G. Edward Griffin’s book, The Creature from Jekyll Island is a work of considerable scholarship, very well referenced, & as I said above, the chapter summaries can be read in an hour ~.
John Doran.

Reply to  TA
October 14, 2016 10:07 am

The Kennedy tax cuts worked because the rates were at that time absurdly high. The Reagan cuts, along with Reagan increases due to ending numerous deductions, seemed to work, but the resulting Reagan/Clinton boom was largely the result of massive, pent up demand after Paul Volker reduced his sky high interest rates that had been in place a number of years. Also, that was the heart of the Great Real Estate Inflation which enabled millions of middle class Americans to pay off their credit cards with “funny” money. As you will recall, that did not end well. The 2008 near depression was a “collapse of demand” recession such as we had not seen since 1929. The formerly well off U.S. middle class was simply flat broke.
But yes, we should find a way to get corporations to repatriate their trillions they hold overseas.

Uncle Gus
October 13, 2016 9:25 am

This is nothing new
I remember Bruce Kent, the former director of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, talking about it in an interview once.
Apparently, a bloke with a strong Russian accent phoned the CND offices once and offered them a very large donation (for those days – this was in the 70s). Of course, they accepted. CND was heavily strapped for cash, and they didn’t *know* the money came from the Kremlin…
The donation came with no strings attached; why not, when CND was doing just what the Soviets wanted them to do anyway? (I.e., attempting to move Western public support away from nuclear armaments.)
by the

October 13, 2016 2:06 pm

When the shit hits the fan once Hillary’s bankers fully take over the poor are going to be on the firing line and not the hedge fund bankers who are now pulling the strings .
Neither candidate is capable but the USA election is now about who has the thickest wallet .
It is obvious one of the biggest changes is the infiltration of senior government posts by people with a strong distain for elected representatives , getting their marching orders from large donors and activists many of whom are siphoning tax payer money to work against the public interest. EPA for example .

Reply to  Amber
October 13, 2016 10:22 pm

“Neither candidate is capable …”
I’m curious what makes you think Mr. Trump is not “capable” . . If you suggested to me before this election cycle got going, that ANYONE could do what he has to generate a serious threat to those bankster’s, large donors, activists, and bureaucrats plans/power, I’d have thought you were ignorant or nuts . . What’s with the dis?

October 13, 2016 7:38 pm

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday said that US claims Moscow is meddling in the American election process are “flattering” but baseless.
Lavrov shrugged off US allegations that Russia has directed cyber attacks against American political organisations in a bid to influence the November 8 vote.
“It’s flattering of course to get this kind of attention for a regional power, as President Obama called us some time ago,” Lavrov told CNN.
“Now everybody in the United States is saying that it is Russia which is running the (US) presidential debate.”
But Lavrov insisted that there is not a “single fact, a single proof” to back Washington’s accusations.
President Vladimir Putin also struck back at Washington on Wednesday.
The Kremlin strongman insisted that the US accusations were aimed at stirring “hysteria” over Russia to “manipulate public opinion” and distract from issues uncovered by leaked documents.
Last week the Obama administration formally accused the Russian government of trying to “interfere” with the American election, and vowed to respond at an undisclosed time and place.
A White House spokesman said Tuesday that Washington would ensure that its “response is proportional”.
“If they decided to do something, let them do it,” Lavrov said.
In the CNN interview Lavrov also commented on lewd remarks by Republican candidate Donald Trump in a 2005 video in which he boasted about his ability to grope women as he pleases and said he could “grab them by the pussy.”
“There are so many pussies around your presidential campaign on both sides that I prefer not to comment,” Lavrov said, stressing that English was not his first language and he was not sure he would sound “decent”, CNN reported.
The Kremlin was propelled to the heart of American politics in July after Hillary Clinton’s campaign blamed Russia for an embarrassing leak of emails from the Democratic National Committee.
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Russia has been accused of favouring Trump — who has praised Putin and pledged better ties with Mocow — over the more hawkish Clinton.
Russia’s relations with the United States have sunk to their post-Cold War nadir over the conflict in Ukraine and stalled efforts to end the five-year Syrian war.

Reply to  Norenemt
October 14, 2016 6:45 pm

“over the more hawkish Clinton.”
Clinton is not hawkish. She is Barack Obama in a dress, when it comes to U.S. national security and national defense. I guess anyone would look like a hawk when compared to Obama, but don’t be fooled, Hillary Clinton is just another clueless Leftist who knows nothing about how to protect the United States.
Hillary thinks it is a good idea to “empathize” with the terrorists. That ought to tell you all you need to know about Hillary Clinton and U.S. national security. Doesn’t have a clue.

October 18, 2016 7:05 pm

Venezuela’s Supreme Court has raised another obstacle to an opposition drive for a referendum on recalling leftist President Nicolas Maduro, who is blamed for a deepening economic and political crisis.
Proponents of a recall already faced a high hurdle: they must collect signatures from 20 percent of the electorate — or about four million voters — over a three-day period from October 26 to 28.
But in a ruling Monday the Supreme Court raised the bar even higher by making it 20 percent of the electorate in each of the country’s 24 states in order to force a recall vote.
“The failure to collect that percentage in any of the states or the capital district would nullify the validity of a presidential recall referendum,” the court said.
Maduro’s popularity has plummeted as his oil-rich country has spiralled into chaos, with the economy now in its third year of a deep recession, exacerbated by the plunge in world oil prices.
Inflation is expected to top 700 percent this year, and ordinary Venezuelans are struggling with widespread shortages of food and medicine.
The opposition Democratic Unity Roundtable (MUD) has pushed for a recall vote as a constitutionally accepted way out of the crisis.
But Maduro keeps a tight hold on key levers of power, including the courts, which have backed him in moves aimed at neutralizing the opposition-controlled National Assembly and heading off a recall.
The opposition, meanwhile, is counting on an overwhelming turnout during the three-day signature drive to pressure the government to give way.
“It will be a moral recall,” said Jesus Torrealba, MUD’s executive secretary.
The opposition is pressing for a recall vote before January 10, even though the country’s electoral authorities say there is not time to organize one this year.
The timing of the vote is key because under the constitution a successful recall before January 10 would lead to new elections. If Maduro is recalled after that date, he would hand over power to his handpicked vice-president.
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