Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Bill McKibben wants the world to wage war against Climate Change, by giving governments full wartime powers to seize private property and coerce businesses into supporting the effort, and with strict government control of the economy.
A WORLD at WAR
We’re under attack from climate change—and our only hope is to mobilize like we did in WWII.
BY BILL MCKIBBEN
August 15, 2016
In the North this summer, a devastating offensive is underway. Enemy forces have seized huge swaths of territory; with each passing week, another 22,000 square miles of Arctic ice disappears. Experts dispatched to the battlefield in July saw little cause for hope, especially since this siege is one of the oldest fronts in the war. “In 30 years, the area has shrunk approximately by half,” said a scientist who examined the onslaught. “There doesn’t seem anything able to stop this.”
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World War III is well and truly underway. And we are losing.
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To make the Stanford plan work, you would need to build a hell of a lot of factories to turn out thousands of acres of solar panels, and wind turbines the length of football fields, and millions and millions of electric cars and buses. But here again, experts have already begun to crunch the numbers. Tom Solomon, a retired engineer who oversaw the construction of one of the largest factories built in recent years—Intel’s mammoth Rio Rancho semiconductor plant in New Mexico—took Jacobson’s research and calculated how much clean energy America would need to produce by 2050 to completely replace fossil fuels. The answer: 6,448 gigawatts.
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“It was public capital that built most of the stuff, not Wall Street,” says Wilson. “And at the top level of logistics and supply-chain management, the military was the boss. They placed the contracts, they moved the stuff around.” The feds acted aggressively—they would cancel contracts as war needs changed, tossing factories full of people abruptly out of work. If firms refused to take direction, FDR ordered many of them seized. Though companies made money, there was little in the way of profiteering—bad memories from World War I, Wilson says, led to “robust profit controls,” which were mostly accepted by America’s industrial tycoons. In many cases, federal authorities purposely set up competition between public operations and private factories: The Portsmouth Naval Shipyard built submarines, but so did Electric Boat of Groton, Connecticut. “They were both quite impressive and productive,” Wilson says.
“Usually, when people from different worlds are dealing with each other, they get into conflicts and then dig in their heels deeper,” Berk says. “But because the stakes are so high and it’s moving so fast, no one doubts that if you don’t get a handle on this battle in the Atlantic, then the immediate consequences will be really grave. So they’re willing to do this kind of pragmatic trial and error. They start to see that ‘I can’t dig in my heels–I need this other person to learn from.’” In the face of a common enemy, Americans worked together in a way they never had before.
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Read more: https://newrepublic.com/article/135684/declare-war-climate-change-mobilize-wwii
The McKibben post is well worth reading in full, amongst other things it contains interesting reflections about the climate policies of current US presidential candidates.
Leaving aside the question of whether renewables can replace fossil fuels (according to top Google engineers, they can’t), think about what a grim world McKibben wants to create.
The government would have unconstrained power to seize private property, and direct business people to work for the government for whatever “profit” the government decided was fair, on pain of having their assets forcibly removed and handed to someone else.
McKibben handily skirts around how he would deal with non business people, political opponents who object to or obstruct his war on climate, but it seems pretty obvious what would happen, if wartime history is any guide. A government willing to seize property and treat productive people as slaves simply wouldn’t tolerate opposition. At the very least public opposition to government policy would lead to long term internment – incarceration without due process.
Worst of all, McKibben’s war would never end. McKibben actually laments that control of the economy was handed back to private individuals after WW2.
That attitude quickly reset after the war, of course; solidarity gave way to the biggest boom in personal consumption the world had ever seen, as car-packed suburbs sprawled from every city and women were retired to the kitchen. Business, eager to redeem its isolationist image and shake off New Deal restrictions, sold itself as the hero of the war effort, patriotic industrialists who had overcome mountains of government red tape to get the job done. And the modest “operations researchers,” who had entered and learned from the real world when they managed radar development during the war, retreated to their ivory towers and became much grander “systems analysts” once the conflict ended. Robert McNamara, a former Ford executive, brought an entire wing of the Rand Corporation to the Defense Department during the Kennedy administration, where the think-tank experts promptly privatized most of the government shipyards and plane factories, and used their out-of-touch computer models to screw up government programs like Model Cities, the ambitious attempt at urban rehabilitation during the War on Poverty. “The systems analysts completely took over,” Berk says, “and the program largely failed for that reason.”
Read more: Same link as above
If I had written a post anywhere near as outrageous as McKibben’s jingoistic demand for a war on climate, his demand for wholesale surrender of liberty and property rights to government, I would be called a fascist. But because McKibben is a green, he gets a free pass from mainstream media to demand the unthinkable.
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Is there no way after all this time to reset the starting date for Arctic Ice away from the end of the famous 1970’s ice age scare? I mean, talk about end point problems – what would the conversation look like if that start point were 20 to 30 years earlier? It would change everything and take away a recurring cherry-picked data record. I know it is the satellite record, but it is, by limits of technology, scientifically flawed as used.
He must so regret that he was not born in North Korea.
The worst punishment for guys like McKibben would be to make them live in the “Utopia” of their own design, except as an average joe and not as the ruling elite they imagine themselves to be. It would only be fitting. Let them suffer both the intended and unintended consequences that would result from the policies they wish to enforce on the rest of us.
This is what you get when you peel off a watermelon
Fascinating to read of an American ratbag (Aussie term for an unhinged urger)
He has his mates though
We had a beauty here in Oz by the name of Dr Clive Hamilton
An academic he stood for Parliament as a Green and I think lost his deposit (meaning he was not able to attract enough votes)
Clive came out with the line thst if the public did not /could not get it right in supporting the essential climate policies it may be necessary to suspend democratic provesses
No doubt leaving the decision making to bien pensants (right thinkers in Emglish) of which of course Clive just by happenstance would be one
Recall Orwell’s dictum that only an academic or intellectual could hold such a crazy opinion that no ordinary person would hold
We diidn’t need models to establish that Japan had bombed Pearl Harbor and Hitler was gobbling up Europe.
Fascinating how the solution to all environmental problems always involve total control over others by the environmentalists.
+1
You’d think they’d catch on to their own Catch-22 – because their solutions DO require 100% capitulation and total control, than absolutely none of them can ever work, because total control is impossible.
But nope – they’ll keep tightening the noose anyway. That ‘control-freak-carrot’ has kept them plowing away at our freedoms and rights for generations, and they show no signs of stopping.
There are two major categories of leftist.
The first are those who are convinced that marxist principles WILL work, once all opposition to it is eliminated. To these people their previous failures are always explained by the failure to have enough power.
The second are those who are only interested in free stuff. They don’t care how much other people are suffering because their need for more stuff is the only thing that matters to them.Like the rioter in Milwaukee last week who justified their rioting by declaring that there were rich white people who still had lots of stuff and they weren’t making any effort to give that stuff to people like him.
To most of these people, other people having more than they do is an unforgivable sin and justifies them to do whatever they need to do to rectify the situation.
I think there’s also the ‘bleeding heart’ demographic – who don’t necessarily look at the Marxist mechanics of Progressive policy (or are even really aware of them), but who are easily led down any road the propagandists choose by putting the proper sob stories in place – these tend to be the affluent types that are actually mostly untouched by the issues that concern them – but just feel really, really bad about that it’s all going on out there.
These are the most problematic types, because they continue to vote for the same people, the same causes, with the blithely unaware toss-off of ‘we’re trying to help’ – or ‘it’s for the environment, so what harm can it do?’ – sort of the way the DDT ban got pushed through, with no concern for consequences as long as that warm fuzzy was there to balm the bleeding heart – and they never, ever, stop because they assign themselves the higher moral ground.
The ‘bleeding heart’ – the only heart disease that kills others.
“with each passing week, another 22,000 square miles of Arctic ice disappears.”
Most people call that summer.
Then in the winter, it magically reappears.
“World War III is well and truly underway. And we are losing.” – Bill McKibben
Bill, if you want to win World War III, nuke them all! Nuclear winter is the Final Solution. Total annihilation of global warming, not just the warming but also the globe. Screw the Nazis, warmists are the badder ahss
“World War III is well and truly underway. And we are losing.” – Bill McKibben
Bill, if you want to win World War III, nuke them all! Nuclear winter is the Final Solution. Total annihilation of global warming, not just the warming but also the globe. Screw the Nazis, warmists are the badder azz
“World War III is well and truly underway. And we are losing.” – Bill McKibben
Bill, if you want to win World War III, nuke them all! Nuclear winter is the Final Solution. Total annihilation of global warming, not just the warming but also the globe. Screw the Nazis, warmists are the badder assjole
Did McKibben used to work for Pol Pot?
Just below the surface of every environmentalist is a national socialist screaming to get out. AKA the watermelon effect.
Televangelism is past its prime.
Academia is full of intellectually corrupt “McKibben” types. They teach in almost all departments. At my university, I purposely gave up my office to avoid mixing with them as much as possible. Most of society’s institutions are similarly corrupted. The real “97%” consensus is all the academics that will vote for their LEVIATHAN gov’t come November.
And they flourish in a system that rewards volume over substance.
McKibbles is lacking quite a few of his Bits.
Kibbles ‘n Bits is a dog food.
Eugene WR Gallun
Jim Jones could have learned a few things from this guy.
Why is it all these guys look like they’re waiting to be fitted for an SS uniform?
Somebody should have been keeping up his vaccinations. Now it’s too late.
I wrote about this on my website last week. I can’t believe that what he admired most about WWII wasn’t Allied soldiers willing to spill their blood to free millions of strangers from tyranny. What he admired most was the government control of all industry. He learned the wrong lesson and applied that to the wrong problem.
Here’s the post in case you are interested. http://www.americaonparr.com/aop-blog/2016/8/16/climate-wars
“Worst of all, McKibben’s war would never end. McKibben actually laments that control of the economy was handed back to private individuals after WW2.”
Yeah…the 1945-1970 was a big disaster for the US economy.