George Monbiot Eats Roadkill to Save The Planet


Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Prominent Guardian Environment Reporter George Monbiot, who sometimes shows up at prominent climate events, no doubt after a long journey by sail, has decided to eat Vegan supplemented with Roadkill to “reduce his impact” on the global climate.

I’ve converted to veganism to reduce my impact on the living world

The world can cope with 7 or even 10 billion people. But only if we stop eating meat. Livestock farming is the most potent means by which we amplify our presence on the planet. It is the amount of land an animal-based diet needs that makes it so destructive.

An analysis by the farmer and scholar Simon Fairlie suggests that Britain could easily feed itself within its own borders. But while a diet containing a moderate amount of meat, dairy and eggs would require the use of 11m hectares of land (4m of which would be arable), a vegan diet would demand a total of just 3m. Not only do humans need no pasture, but we use grains and pulses more efficiently when we eat them ourselves, rather than feed them to cows and chickens.

This would enable 15m hectares of the land now used for farming in Britain to be set aside for nature. Alternatively, on a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200 million people. Extending this thought experiment to the rest of the world, it’s not hard to see how gently we could tread if we stopped keeping animals. Rainforests, savannahs, wetlands, magnificent wildlife can live alongside us, but not alongside our current diet.

Then something happened that broke down the wall of denial. Last September I arranged to spend a day beside the River Culm in Devon, renowned for its wildlife and beauty. However, the stretch I intended to explore had been reduced to a stinking ditch, almost lifeless except for some sewage fungus. I traced the pollution back to a dairy farm. A local man told me the disaster had been developing for months. But his efforts to persuade the Environment Agency (the government regulator) to take action had been fruitless.

I still eat roadkill when I can find it, and animals killed as agricultural pests whose bodies might otherwise be dumped. At the moment, while pigeons, deer, rabbits and squirrels are so abundant in this country and are being killed for purposes other than meat production, eating the carcasses seems to be without ecological consequence. Perhaps you could call me a pestitarian.

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I quite like Monbiot, or at least I find him more entertaining than most greens.

Sometimes he shows a flash of common sense, such as when he defended nuclear power in the wake of Fukushima. Then he goes and blows it by saying something wild, such as telling everyone the corrupt media are keeping the end of the world a secret.

At least Monbiot is going to get enough protein, unlike some Vegans I know. The number of wild deer currently running around the British countryside, and all those impatient drivers trying to beat the rush, Monbiot is not going to starve – unless increasingly punitive British attempts to price driving out of reach of ordinary people finally succeed in clearing the roads of traffic.

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August 12, 2016 8:06 pm

Seriously? Nutter…..👎🏻

Reply to  John
August 13, 2016 8:34 am

Moonbat is a nutter but there is nothing wrong with eating fresh roadkill. Pheasant that has been shot will be hung for up to 3 weeks before you eat it, rabbits after gutting a couple of days. It is easy to tell how old roadkill is by looking at the eyes.
Although some people do I wouldn’t eat a badger 🙂

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 11:20 am

3 weeks? Where and at what time of year?
It takes a day of two for meat to being to rot and stink here in Florida.

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 11:22 am

I will see if i can find you some of Granny Bodine’s recipes.
I know she had a great one for possum pot pie.
BTW, unless an animal is killed and not “found already dead”, it may be more difficult to tell if it was healthy, which is likely why many predators will never ever eat a dead animal.
Snakes come to mind…they will only eat what they themselves kill.

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 11:52 am

One wouldn’t hang it in a hot room for any length of time. Unless you are the sort that like it really ripe 🙂 Some say if it hasn’t started moving again it is not ready 🙂
Best hanging times
5°C (41°F) 7-12 days (18 days max) less flavour
10°C (50°F) 3-7 days (11 days max) best taste and texture
15°C (59°F) 2-3 days (4 days max) meat tougher

Some might say it is a bit conservative 🙂
If you find a dead animal by the road it was obviously alive enough to run or fly in front of a car. At least as alive as an animal that can run or fly in front of a gun.
My tactic it to visit a pub in the country before dark and check the road on the way there (usually clear as the foxes clean up pretty good) and pick up any new pheasants and rabbits on the way back.

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 12:10 pm
Miranda Krestovnikoff, the new president of the RSPB, is urging the public to follow her example by eating roadkill
She spoke after hosting a dinner party for friends featuring rat — fried and served with a garlic and soy sauce dip — from the B3347 near Sopley in the New Forest; fox, sautéd in garlic, from the Ferndown bypass, near Wimborne, Dorset; and badger chasseur, served with tomato sauce and croutons, picked up from the A354 near Salisbury.
There are some requirements for the preparation of roadkill which may not be available to all — including space. Large animals like deer should be hung for up to five days in a cool area, such as a garage. The butchering process is also messy, though Krestovnikoff says people can take their roadkill along to a butcher to do this part.
Jonathan McGowan, a taxidermist from Bournemouth, helped to source the food. He has lived on a diet of roadkill for 30 years, and has eaten mice, moles, hedgehogs, squirrels, rats, foxes, badgers, hares, weasels, polecats, otters, wildcats, finches, thrushes, pigeons, owls, crows, gulls, blackbirds and cormorants.
At the party, the fox loin, served as “fox trots”, seemed to go down well. Ben Brown, a teacher and one of Krestovnikoff’s guests, described it as “a cross between steak and Billtong”. Reaction to the rat was less positive.

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 12:25 pm

So, the space, the luxury and time to and energy (large car!) and plastic wrap and butcher knives to dress the road kill.
And the training to dress and bleed out the animals.
And the drains and sewage connections to treat the blood, excreta, intestines, and organs. And the energy and power and clean water and sewerconnection to receive the waste remaining AFTER the dressing is done…
Now, deer, wild boar (assuming the Muslim-prohibition on eating pork is waived by these liberals) possums, squirrels and ALL “wild” critters carry fleas, lice, intestinal and skin parasites. Blood diseases, brain diseases transmitted by touch, by the liquids, and by the accidental ingestion of liquids into the body or somebody else’s body (dirty fingernail touching an eyelid, wiping a nose, touching the knife handle that later is picked up and washed …. )
So, find a “clean” roadkill, drag it into the car trunk or back seat on the plastic one has (no-CO2!) staged in the car for weeks just in case a roadkill is found within minutes of death. Hope the collision/squishing has not driven the intestines into the good meat. That the car tire has not mushed the bones into the useful flesh.
Infect the car seat with the fleas and ticks leaving the deer.
Oh yes. Oh so clean and healthful. And cheap. And so-savings of CO2.
There is a reason that people live longer today than in the 600’s. Eating roadkill ain’t one of them.

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 12:46 pm

RACook, your first objection seems to be that it is a rich man’s sport. Have you checked the price of rabbits and pheasants recently? Your second objection seems to be that animals have parasites. Same goes for farmed animals. Most pheasants that are hit on roads are factory hatched, reared and released. Your third objection seems to be a matter of hygienic preparation. Same goes for a farm reared whole chicken.
RA you seem to be a bit squeamish. Do you get all your food shrink-wrapped from a supermarket?

Reply to  EricHa
August 13, 2016 3:24 pm

“Do you get all your food shrink-wrapped from a supermarket?”
I will answer that: Yes. Hell yes.
Squeamish? never thought of it that way.
Healthy? Yup.
Parasitic diseases much? No, never a one.
Care if you help yourself to all you want? By all means, indulge to your heart’s content.

John Silver
Reply to  John
August 13, 2016 9:13 am

He better watch out for those cars…….

John Silver
Reply to  John Silver
August 13, 2016 9:20 am

……. or the kitchen tables may turn…..

Andrew Bennett
Reply to  John
August 15, 2016 7:10 am

I also eat roadkill. Not to be socially aware but growing up poor means learning that a free meal is never to be ignored. I the part of the UK where I live means probably 1 pheasant per month. Also partial to rabbit when I can catch them.

Reply to  Andrew Bennett
August 15, 2016 5:42 pm

I’ve eaten roadkill, but not for many years…
Dad’s Rule was you could eat it IFF you killed it.
“Found meat” was presumed a bad idea…
Why? Well, tularemia in rabbits, plague is endemic in the rodents of the Western USA, tricinosis in pigs and bears, … then there is the problem of fleas and ticks looking for a new warm body with only you near…
Oh, and for most critters you do need a hunting license for “possession” to be legal…
For very poor folks, it might be worth it, but I’ll pay the $/lb for chicken at the grocers, thanks.
Though the pheasant we hit did taste good… even with the broken bones… at least no lead pellets to spit out… (shot pheasant has its own issues…)

August 12, 2016 8:11 pm

I’m way ahead of Mr. Moonbat.
I’m doing all I can to save the world by eating as many animals as possible. The fewer organisms exhaling CO2 from one end and emitting CH4 from the other the better!
Where are my carbon credits from Big Oil?

Reply to  Gabro
August 12, 2016 8:48 pm

Why doesn’t he eat the millions of birds and bats slaughtered by his beloved windmills of death?
And the trillions of insect pests not eaten by the massacred birds and bats?

Reply to  Gabro
August 12, 2016 10:22 pm

Hmm, Monbiot campaigns for wind-turbines and then admits that he “still eats roadkill”? He’s an evil genius!!! lmao

Reply to  Gabro
August 12, 2016 11:30 pm

I thought the UN had determined we need to switch to eating bugs?
But, since we keep hearing more and more about how a diet consisting of pure carbohydrates is so good for us, we oughta be able to just skip the bugs and eat toast and cinnabons for our three squares per day.
Although a slathering of maggot paste or crunchy roach gravy sure would fancy up all that bread we will be eating to prevent a nonexistent crisis.
Has anyone told ole moonbat that food production is steadily trending upwards, by every measure, all over the world? Acres in production, total yields, yield per person…all up up up.
So just why is he eating random animals which have been squished, guts fur and all, and left to decompose for a while?
Oh, hell…let eat all the roadkill swill he wants…burgers and steak and fried chicken for this kid.

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 12:13 am

Menicholas writes: “Although a slathering of maggot paste or crunchy roach gravy sure would fancy up all that bread we will be eating to prevent a nonexistent crisis.”
While I was in college back in the 70’s I lived in the Height-Ashbury district of San Francisco, on Page St. a couple of blocks from Ashbury, about a block off Height. It was an old Victorian I shared with a few roommates, a flat. We had a kitchen infested by roaches. I’m sort of big on hygiene so the roaches were a problem for me and I also wasn’t a big fan of insecticides in the kitchen (being an early version of the “orgo-hippy” species).
So I came up with this scheme. I got myself a crock pot, one of those slow cookers you find at garage sales all over the world. Then I got a A/C outlet timer that would control the input power to the crock pot.
In the early evening I’d put a piece of bacon in the crock pot then fire it up until the fat was rendered out. I’d put the pot in the middle of the kitchen floor, plug it into the timer and leave the timer set to about 3 am. On high for an hour. I left the lid of the pot off.
Next morning I’d have a pot full of roaches fried in bacon fat. After a few weeks I didn’t have a roach problem but I had this idea for a new convenience food I wanted to call “Pop Roaches”. I figured I could sell them in little bags in several flavors like “natural”, “salt & vinegar”, “white cheddar”, “nacho”, you get the idea.
I never did it. Probably could have made millions. In the humanitarian spirit, I donate this idea to the world.
“So just why is he eating random animals which have been squished, guts fur and all, and left to decompose for a while?”
Well, let’s think about this as a paleo diet for a moment. Mostly, hunter/gatherer humans were gatherers more than hunters; we evolved eating road kill. Some folks believe our gut benefits from eating “well aged” meat. In fact there are people who sincerely think they can cure certain cancers by eating rotten meat exclusively.
Who knows? Maybe there’s something to it?

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 12:37 am

LOL…Otay, Bartleby.
Be sure to let us know once you have it all worked out!
No, but seriously now… I know when I am on death’s door I will be seeking out the lowest quality food possible, too.
Are you sure you do not want that last piece of fried chicken? I think it is a breast.
As for that paleo scavenger thing…I think without a network of roadways, and fast moving vehicles on them, there would have been a long wait between road kills back in the cave man days.
Between maggots and buzzards, and all the large beasts about, a tribe would have had to be fast and possessing large nostrils to find enough to eat thataways.
i have been reading recently that sharing meat may have been one of the primary ways that early hunter gatherers procured sexual favors from the lady folk…and I do not know what sort of girls Ug and Glork were a-cozyin’ up to, but the women I have always been partial to would have made it a point to make sure that a rotten offering of maggot laden buzzard bait in exchange for some snuggle time would have met with cold shoulder and not hot tongue. Sent Ug and Glork packing back out to the hunt with a severe case of kicked testicles, most likely.
I think men have always been a little better able to provide for the wife and kiddies than random chance and a case of the runs. Just look at how readily the few isolated groups of hunter gatherers studied by anthropologists were able to get what they needed.
Good thing I knew you were kidding, or I might have been tempted to make a joke about it.

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 1:08 am

I thought the UN had determined we need to switch to eating bugs?

Hey, who said roadkill does not include scraping the bugs off your windscreen?

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 3:11 am

Hey, who said roadkill does not include scraping the bugs off your windscreen?”
I could keep him well supplied for part of the year with the biomass I am continually washing off the windshield and west coast mirror covers on the tractor I drive. But it would be robbing the birds. Sometimes when I park the truck with a dirty windshield the birds come to dine on the carcasses.

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 6:18 am

“We had a kitchen infested by roaches. I’m sort of big on hygiene so the roaches were a problem for me and I also wasn’t a big fan of insecticides in the kitchen (being an early version of the “orgo-hippy” species).”
Back when I lived in roach infested apartments, decided to do some physical research on the problem and discovered that that most of the little buggers always scurried to hiding places when the light was turned on. Bought about 10 tubes of caulk with gun and sealed all gaps bigger than a dime in the kitchen (cabinets, walls behind appliances, under sink, everywhere). Roach problem ceased in that apartment and all future apartments/houses so treated. Advantage: no more pesticides; disadvantage: knowing all those rotting roach bodies were still there behind panels and walls.

David Smith
Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 6:21 am

We need a new word; windkill.

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 7:01 am

What could be a more “sustainable” diet for Eco-warriors than “Weeds and Wind Kill”?

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 9:50 am

My solution to roach infestation came during my college years.
When it is one or two in the bathroom or kitchen in the middle of the night, that is bad enough, but when they are all over the joint and even out in daytime, it becomes intolerable.
In apartment blocks, they can walk from place to place, and avoid sprays and such by just moving.
I bought a can of a product which consists of electrostatically charge ortho-boric acid, finely ground.
The boric acid kills them all, no resistance, and the electrostatic charge makes it stick to them so they carry it into the walls and it kills the ones in there.
It seems that in severe infestations of roaches, there are individuals who never come out of the wall nests…they just eat by preening the other ones. *shudder*
Hey, I once heard a roach can live for a month on a speck of grease…anyone have info on that?
In any case, I applied the stuff around the kitchen and bathrooms in strategically places piles, where it stays forever unless it is cleaned up or gets wet, and it keeps working permanently, and then went home for Christmas break.
When we came back, we swept up the carcasses off the floor, and never saw another roach.
Except the time one ran out of a bag of newly purchased groceries we had just put down on the dinner table, and disappeared (never buy brown wall to wall carpeting)! That is why they will always survive, and one of the ways they spread. Another is by hiding in coats and clothing when people visit each other.
The German ones are bad enough, but those giant two inch American roaches, when they take a mind to up and fly around….AAAAaaahhhhhhh!

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 11:43 am

Eric Worrall writes: “Bartleby, sadly the UN has stolen your gourmet insect idea :-)”
I read that shortly after you wrote the essay Eric and Pop Roaches have been tumbling around in the back of my head ever since 🙂 I thought Sec. Gen. Anand’s observation about the efficiencies of insect larvae as a protein source needed more work; after all, before you can have a maggot covered cow carcass, don’t you need a cow?
I also thought the part about AGW caused by cow farts a bit disingenuous given we’ve all heard stories of buffalo carpeting the N. American plains. To this day I don’t think cattle outnumber the native buffalo herds and I’m pretty certain buffalo also fart… 🙂

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 2:42 pm

Feel free to include it, if the mods allow late additions.

Eugene S. Conlin
Reply to  Gabro
August 14, 2016 8:40 am

@ Gabro August 12, 2016 at 8:48 pm… especially as he lives not far from (though not within hearing distance of) Cefn Croes, Theidol (Ystymtuen), Carno and other wind “farms” that he supported!

Reply to  Gabro
August 14, 2016 12:46 pm

How long has Mr. Moonbat polluted Wales?
Can’t the Welsh do anything about the invasion of English hippies?
The sad irony of windmills in coal-rich Wales.

Reply to  Gabro
August 14, 2016 3:38 pm

He probably doesn’t eat the millions of birds and bats slaughtered by windmills because they’ve already been devoured. I read an article that documented a study of the windmill ecosystem. The base of the windmill has scavengers like rats and squirrels that feast the carcasses of the diced up birds and bats. In turn the avian raptors are attracted by the scavengers on the ground which leads to their demise by the windmills. As much as I’ve looked for the article I’ve never been able to find a link to it again.

Reply to  Gabro
August 14, 2016 4:15 pm

Here in Washington and Oregon, the windmill operators hire guys to gather up the massacred birds and bats every day, but there are too many windmills for them to collect all the corpses, so they concentrate on those closest to well-traveled roads.

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 12:16 am

Vegans & vegetarians need to triple CO2 levels in order to grow the crops they’ll eat.
I don’t see many vegans opting for eating grass

François GM
Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 6:12 am

Had God not wanted Humans to eat animals, he wouldn’t have made them out of meat.

Reply to  François GM
August 13, 2016 12:08 pm

+ a whole big bunch!

Tom Halla
August 12, 2016 8:13 pm

I think Monbiot is about to discover one of the few groups more self-righteous than greens are vegans. How dare he eat Bambi? 🙂

Reply to  Tom Halla
August 12, 2016 10:32 pm

@ Tom
Yr: “How dare he eat Bambi?”
It goes without saying that George fully appreciates that his “roadkill” idea is a grody, barf-booger turn-off, not only for vegans, but also for any “normal” human being, as well–he’s not stupid, you know. So I recommend that it is best to think of George’s “modest proposal” along the lines of a calculated outrage, which he fully hopes and expects will receive a froth-friendly, sputtering, gesticulation-rich rejection by one and all.
Rather, the whole point of the drill, of course, is to numb, through over-load, the hoi-polloi’s capacity for shock and thereby make it somehow all seem “reasonable”, when the good-comrades suddenly foist on humanity their latest, vegan-sensitive, animal-protein, foodie-craze brainstorm–dumpster-diving for fetal remains.
Voila! pretty slick, huh?

Reply to  mike
August 12, 2016 11:41 pm

Yeah, and never mind that the biggest food crisis the civilized world is facing is the exploding rates of obesity. Even in poor countries, which are becoming fewer by the year.
George must have missed that memo too.
BTW, when was the last famine anyone heard about?
There used to be one in the Sahel or some other God forsaken place about every other year until the mid-1990s or so.
The only place that is having any problems these days is Venezuela, where Monbiot’s pals have ruined the economy so badly they are now eating garbage and zoo animals…which is likely a mercy since the zoo animals are starving to death anyhoo. But I hear they have a plan to fix it by sending people from the cities, who know zero about farming or food production, to do forced labor on farms. Some well timed pulses grown by enslaved office workers oughta fix that in no time flat.

Brian H
Reply to  mike
August 13, 2016 12:22 am

I wonder. Will he search out and consume jay-walking casualties? And drive around looking for stray pets?

Reply to  mike
August 13, 2016 12:40 am

Menicholas writes: “never mind that the biggest food crisis the civilized world is facing is the exploding rates of obesity”
Oh let’s not belabor the obvious.
Consider the economic benefits of the Pop Roach…

Reply to  mike
August 13, 2016 1:16 am

Those pop roaches, Bartleby…do not forget…they make a fine pizza topping too.
Just make sure you get the bacon grease hot enough:

Tom in Florida
Reply to  mike
August 13, 2016 5:13 am

Another under cooked pizza. How disgusting!

Reply to  mike
August 13, 2016 11:04 am

Menicholas: “But I hear they have a plan to fix that by sending people from the cities…to do forced labor on farms” Shades of that other champion of UN approved genocide, Pol Pot?

Reply to  mike
August 14, 2016 8:53 am

Menicholas tried to get this to display on the test page (see link at top of this page) but didn’t see the directions on how to abuse recalcitrant URLs that don’t end in .jpgcomment image

DD More
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 13, 2016 1:06 pm

Tom, and where is PETA to protest killing all the baby sheep, calves, little chick’s and piglets. Didn’t Mooney say to get rid of all food animals which are in competition with his ag land.

Reply to  DD More
August 13, 2016 4:04 pm

Almost All of those species would not even exist if they werent bred for food

August 12, 2016 8:15 pm

So the crows will go back to pillaging song-bird nests?

Alan Robertson
August 12, 2016 8:19 pm

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Alan Robertson
August 12, 2016 9:34 pm

An all time great.

Cold in Wisconsin
Reply to  Alan Robertson
August 13, 2016 8:11 am

Black and White lives matter!

Reply to  Alan Robertson
August 13, 2016 4:20 pm

One of my favorites. Long,long ago while living the easy life in Austin Texas, I had a musician friend who supplemented his diet with road kill. Not really by choice, since his income depended on tips playing at a few of the dives I frequented. Occasionally, I would try a “taste” so as not to hurt his feelings. The night he served skunk was too much though. He did persevere with his music, and became a minor “celebrity” among the Austin Liberals.

August 12, 2016 8:22 pm

There is just so much non arable land that is now used for animal grazing (rightly).
This supports many millions of people, in arid infertile regions.
If you forced everyone to convert to veganism in places like this, there would be mass starvation, especially in the 3rd world.

Reply to  Jeff
August 12, 2016 10:24 pm

My thoughts exactly. In New Zealand we have a large perentage of land that is not suitable for arable farming so we run sheep and cattle on it. How ever I suppose that Monbiot would say that this land is wilderness, however tell him the grass still looks yummy.

Reply to  Jeff
August 12, 2016 10:39 pm

This is overlooked, or possibly not even realized, by many who have had reliably refrigerated food supply chains. My tropical neighbors can’t irrigate & rely on variable seasonal rainfall so crops selected for human consumption are a trade off.
Area is semi-arid & the only people making any significant money from their land are selling off young stock as their grazing dries up & they dedicate tactics to keep their breeding females alive. Those without enough grazing put in a staple tuber &/or storage squash & often a maize crop that is meant to be sold for non-human feed. In the area it is, in a sense, the animal economy that keeps local populace from living at subsistance level thanks to the money turn-over that gives families the option to buy other food for a well rounded diet.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Jeff
August 13, 2016 3:17 am

It always makes me laugh when idiots like Moonbat spout off. He seems to have no idea how much of our wonderful countryside is a product of human activity. If it stopped there would be nothing but trees everywhere eventually so what of all the species that have adapted to what we do? Take chalk downland for example. This is kept clear of tree growth by grazing with sheep usually. And this allows certain butterfly species to thrive in the landscape. Stop the grazing and it would have to be mowed by a tractor but they will be banned in Moonbat Nutterworld unless they are solar powered or some such. If not then first you get shrubs then trees and no more downland.
Having experience of this, reed beds. Without human activity to cut the reeds, these lovely water areas would dry up as vegetable matter grows until shrubs appear and then it becomes dry enough for trees.
In conclusion, being dumb has never been a hindrance to being an environmentalist as we can see.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Gerry, England
August 13, 2016 9:31 am

The true believers (like Monbiot) never consider all of the available data before joining a new cause. Then, once they have, confirmation bias takes over and they totally isolate themselves from any data that does not agree with or reinforce their new belief system. Only if/when it goes out of style do they search for a new causes célèbre and repeat the pattern.

Reply to  Jeff
August 13, 2016 10:41 am

I did land judging competitions for FFA back in high school. Based on your eyeball observations of the soil composition, slope, and other relevant factors, you assigned the land area a “class”, then everyone’s results were compared against a professional survey report of the same land.
Class 1-4: Land suitable for crop raising, in descending order of quality.
Class 5: Land with poor drainage and/or regularly inundated with water. Wetlands, swamps, etc.
Class 6-8: Land suitable for livestock grazing, in descending order of quality.
Class 9: Land unsuitable for agriculture. Wilderness, bare rock, etc.
So when self-righteous vegans claim that pasture land would make more food as farmland, I instantly know they’re full of it. It’s one of those arguments that sounds ironclad logical in the abstract, yet fails because it’s based on an erroneous premise that doesn’t match pesky reality.
Do they even have “Ag” classes in school anymore?

William R
August 12, 2016 8:23 pm

It would be fine if these greenies were content to live their life the way they want. Unfortunately they want to force the rest of the planet to do the same. A “vegan” planet, he dreams of. That could only happen by executing billions of people who disagree with you, sir. Somehow I don’t think that would bother him too much.

Reply to  William R
August 12, 2016 8:26 pm

The flightiest people get to live the good life at the expense of the many they make their subjects.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  William R
August 12, 2016 10:49 pm

Monbiot says “I’ve converted to veganism to reduce my impact on the living world.”
Typical leftist greenie, not even aware that plants live and are thus part of the living world.

Snarling Dolphin
August 12, 2016 8:25 pm

Pest for short.

charles nelson
August 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that The Guardian which provides a steady diet of Leftist, Occupy, SJW, eco-loon and generally politically Correct Opinions to its handful of paying readers….is actually financed by “big bankers”?
Check out the Board of The Scott Trust!

Reply to  charles nelson
August 12, 2016 9:22 pm

Did the banks have to take over ownership to prevent foreclosure?

Reply to  charles nelson
August 13, 2016 7:30 am

“generally politically Correct Opinions”
That’s just “Leftist Correct”, in other words. If it is not acceptable to a Leftist, then it is not “politically” correct, i.e. Leftist Correct.
Calling it “Politically Correct” disguises it’s intent, which is to insinuate it is Mainstream thought rather than Leftwing thought.
“Politically Correct” is a Leftwing propaganda trick, which unforutnately has worked too well, becoming the standard description used by almost everyone. But it is more accurate to call it “Leftwing/Leftist Correct”, because that’s what it is.

Reply to  TA
August 13, 2016 11:30 am

Great point TA!
I am gong to remember this, and spread it around!
I hate PC, have had ever since I first heard of it all those decades ago.
Like sustainability and pants falling off the rear end, I thought it was something so stupid it would never catch on, let alone grow and become permanent.
But it may not be too late to salvage some semblance of sanity in the world, even if there remains pocks of crazy here and there forevermore.

August 12, 2016 8:47 pm

Extending this thought experiment to the rest of the world, it’s not hard to see how gently we could tread if we stopped keeping animals.

My family shares living accommodations with a small group of critters who keep the house clear of rodents and burglars (as well as other services such as table clearing, plate cleaning, and paper shredding). They are unanimous in the opinion that I should continue to feed and harbour them. Sorry George, you’re outvoted.

Reply to  commieBob
August 12, 2016 8:55 pm

@ commie bob, maybe you and I should help George out here, by sending him the gifts my “critters” leave by the backdoor as “gifts” for the shelter we provide them? It would maybe save his no doubt leather shoes and his woolen coat he has to wear looking for road kill. ( I wonder what he’d wear after all the cows and sheep are gone?)

Leonard Lane
Reply to  asybot
August 12, 2016 10:56 pm

Does he dress in roadkill skins, are his shoes, fillings, glasses, glass frames, etc. vegan? Looks like he shaves too. Is that with a razor or razor blades that are also vegan? Does he drive, fly in airplanes, take the bus or taxi, are they all vegan, their roads, and runways, etc., are they vegan too? He has a long way to go to be vegan. Hope he makes it someday.

Reply to  asybot
August 13, 2016 2:59 am

Leonard Lane says: August 12, 2016 at 10:56 pm
… He has a long way to go to be vegan. Hope he makes it someday.

I know a vegan. That person won’t use honey or milk because, although they aren’t actually being killed, the creaturess involved are inconvenienced. Sugar is a problem because bone char is used to whiten it. If you need surgery, you have to arrange with the surgeon to use non-animal-product suture thread. etc. etc. etc. It’s not easy being vegan.

Reply to  asybot
August 13, 2016 9:35 am

Then there are the so-called animal rights activist who will do things like wear leather, but only if the animal died of natural causes.
Looking about at the natural world though, it would seem that predation of one species by another is as natural as it gets.

Reply to  asybot
August 15, 2016 2:13 am

commieBob, that idea about sugar not being veggie-suitable is VERY largely a myth. The majority of refined sugars do NOT use bone char, only a minority do.

August 12, 2016 8:54 pm

Very bizarre.
Eating “road kill” whether to or not has nothing to do with climate change. Just as CO2 in the atmosphere has nothing to do with global warming.

Brian H
Reply to  RBom
August 13, 2016 12:29 am

Yes it does, it’s a result of warming.

Eugene WR Gallun
August 12, 2016 9:03 pm

Pestitarian? He could set traps and catch rats and eat them. A seemingly endless supply in any city.
Monbiot definitely has a “more holy than thou” mindset. No one is going to accuse him of being an environmental hypocrite!
Or has he heard rumors about him soon being fired? And thinks this extreme green behavior will starve it off — without realizing that this type of behavior will only get him fired quicker.
Does he think he will be admired for this type of behavior when, in truth, it will only get him laughed at?
But perhaps I misunderstand. Could we be watching artistic evolution? No one has ever taken Manbiot;s writing seriously so could he have form fitted his art to that reality? Now he does “farce” — which no one takes seriously.
Eugene WR Gallun

Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
August 12, 2016 11:48 pm

If he is actually eating dead animals scraped off of roadways, he will be dead soon by his own foolish hand.

JLC of Perth
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 1:21 am

My thoughts exactly. It is *really* not a good idea for reasons of health.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 9:31 am

Yes, Eric, i believe you are correct.
i have found that in my old age, exaggerating danger can forestall contemplation of the unwise.
I think i read some where that the sense of revulsion we feel at the thought of eating certain things may be rooted more in economics than in biology.
i confess to some doubts as to this hypothesis, but it is clear than in places where it is economically advantageous to do so, rodents and insects are consumed with relish (or mustard).

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 11:40 am

But the only people I ever heard of that eat roadkill are the Clampett’s, Bodine’s, and one Cletus Delroy Spuckler.
“Most folks’ll never cut a toe of, then again some folks’ll, Cletus the slack jawed yokel!”

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 12, 2016 9:21 pm

The problem vegans have is that they don’t grow older than non-vegans, they only look older.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 13, 2016 12:48 pm

Smell like it, too.

August 12, 2016 9:27 pm

If you didn’t know him, this piece of his could have been called ‘Veganism satire’ But we do know him, and he is deadly serious! I think 😉

August 12, 2016 9:29 pm

“Extending this thought experiment”. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Moonbat hasn’t had a thought that could even be called sane in his pitiful life,let alone an experiment. Hey Nutter. Come on over to Canada. I know a loverly little spot where you and the grizzlies can argue over who gets the elk’s carcass, while discussing how we humans are destroying their habitat. Heck.I’ll even splurge for the one-way ticket (by sailboat,of course.AND help you hike the 4,000 miles from landfall to where the grizzlies roam). Twit.

August 12, 2016 9:31 pm

Sounds like the moonbat is trying to justify his preference for hummingbird tongue and sandpiper breasts.
Here in the states, eating certain vermin may be allowed year round. But it is still often illegal to collect roadkill without legal authorization.
It is also illegal, either Federally or under state statutes, to possess parts, portions, fur, bodies of protected animals. I’d be surprised if Great Britain allows people to eat any/every dead/wounded critter they find.
Moonbat’s claim of having tracked ‘pollution’ back to a ‘dairy farm’ strikes me as full blown nonsense that loonbat made up while sitting on his throne; far from any real farms.
What puzzles me is just what does he think dairy farms can do to seriously pollute a river? Locally here, dairy farms are cited as sources for e-coli and nitrate/phosphate sources. Moonbatty appears to think they are sources for some sort of toxic wastes.
Anybody else suspect that Monbiot’s roadkill foods resemble ribs, filet mignon and steaks?

Reply to  ATheoK
August 12, 2016 9:55 pm

. . . and washed down with decaffienated coffee (coffee made from beans that fall through 100ft high holding vats of pressurised CO2).
. . . . or worse, Beer.
. . . . or Wine.
. . . . or any carbonated drink.

Reply to  ATheoK
August 12, 2016 11:55 pm

Personally, AtheoK, i think he is ten pounds of crap in a five pound sack…totally full of sh!t.
But not for long…eating aged gut squishings and wild vermin fur with your decomposed meat is likely to induce a truly epic case of explosive diarrhea.

David Chappell
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 7:44 am

Totally full of shit is actually pretty apposite. Given that the human gut cannot digest cellulose 30-50% of the vegan diet he eats is totally wasted. Which also means that the extra shit he produces is also an additional pollution problem.

Reply to  ATheoK
August 13, 2016 7:30 am

Atouk: That was my question too. In the US, you aren’t allowed to pick up roadkill unless you have a permit. Taxidermy students often use roadkill for practice. Wildlife rehabers may use it also. Some places if you contact the game wardens, you can take home a freely hit deer or antelope. But not without paperwork. IF he’s eating roadkill, that would be the only way I can see he’s legally getting it and consuming it, unless the laws are very different in Great Britain.
The dairy farm story sounds like a movie clip. In a country as “green” as Great Britain, it seems unlikely the authorities just ignore such pollution. In the US, someone would call the local Greens who would call the MSM and voila! Prime time special on evil environmental polluter. “Nothing was done” sounds highly improbable, shall we say?

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Reality check
August 13, 2016 9:54 am

I’ve been in several states that allow you to keep your road kill. For examples see:

Reply to  Reality check
August 13, 2016 11:24 am

For years, when deer were fewer in numbers, most states required that a game warden see the dead animal before giving permission for someone to keep or take the dead critter.
Technically that is still the law in many states today. But most game wardens in highly deer populous states are sick and tired of getting calls for them to pick up or remove animal carcasses. Not that it is their job, just that many old ladies and suburbanites assume their job is.
Taking home a dead deer in many states is illegal without express permission of the warden, and as you point out, often requires a physical paper permit.
Even during the hunting seasons, hunters are expected to take their deer and bears to ‘check points’. Which are another ‘catch 22’ gotchas for terminally dumb poachers. Bringing in an undersized/underage/out of season critters guarantees citations, fines and sometimes jail time.
Most of these same states require that you keep paperwork available, in case you are raided and the deputies are trying to verify just what is in your refrigerator, freezer or on your shelves. No paperwork, then the critters must be illegally gained.
So, call the game warden. Describe the scene, identify the dead animal, tire marks along with any indications of an accident.
They just might give you permission to pick up the critter. Otherwise. the warden or his deputies will visit the scene and then decide.
Does the meat a lot of good to sit on hot asphalt, in the sun for hours. After such decomposition, surely the meat is tender and flavorful… Suitable for Moonbat tasty.

Reply to  Reality check
August 13, 2016 3:13 pm

Good to know. There was an argument against allowing people to keep roadkill that it would encourage illegal “hunting” using a car. However, hitting a deer or other animal is often an expensive car repair, so it never really made sense.

Ian L. McQueen
Reply to  Reality check
August 13, 2016 3:48 pm

I killed an unfortunate moose in Maine with my car about 20 years ago. A person who was “down on his luck” was allowed to take the animal for food.
Here in NB deer and the like that are killed by vehicles are not given to zoo animals because they might contain glass. I don’t know if the same reasoning is used for people, but we are not allowed to possess deer meat and the like unless we had a licence and shot it ourselves.

Reply to  ATheoK
August 13, 2016 5:16 pm

“I’d be surprised if Great Britain allows people to eat any/every dead/wounded critter they find.”
Theoretically, you aren’t supposed to eat stuff you’ve killed yourself, but only if it’s been killed by someone else. This law is mainly honoured in the breach, however, out here in the country it is quite common to eat a nice piece of roadkill.
I’ve been eating roadkill for decades, but generally only that I’ve produced myself, mostly rabbits but occasionally the odd hare or pheasant. Even if it has been killed by someone else, it won’t be there for long, as the crows and foxes will have it away very rapidly.

Reply to  catweazle666
August 14, 2016 1:05 am

The quote you refer to was meant to reference the ‘protected’ critters misfortunate to cross a road at the wrong time; e.g. tubercular badgers, song birds, buzzards, raptors and endangered critters. My mistake for not being clearer.
I agree, it is very hard to leave pheasants and rabbits in one’s wake. It can be even harder to turn around and get back to them in time before someone else grabs the prize.
Especially pheasants, though one rarely hits them walking or standing on the road. Pheasants prefer to burst flying out of bushes on the side of the road right into the radiator or windshield.
Rabbits are odd in that I rarely see them cross a road. They’re usually just sitting in the road with the rabbits’ hidden by a curve in the road being hardest to avoid.
I’ve only had one deer manage to hit the side of my car, beginning at the driver’s mirror and back.
A young 4 point buck, It woke up when I went to pull the carcass off the road. Even cross eyed, that deer chased me around my car.
That was one ticked off deer, and he hit me!
There was a car full of ladies behind me and when I went to check the deer, told me to put the deer out of it’s misery. The deer was laying in a tangled motionless lump.
I pulled out my 2 3/8″ dress pocket knife and told the lady my knife was a little small, could I borrow her gun, or did she prefer that I break the deer’s neck?
She scowled at me while rolling up her window. I went to pull the deer from the road.
Luckily she zoomed off before I grabbed the deer’s back leg and found myself holding the rear leg of a very much alive deer.
Geez, he sure looked dead.

Reply to  catweazle666
August 14, 2016 10:18 am

ATheoK: My husband hit at least half a dozen deer in the last 30 years. He drove 45 miles to work at dawn and home at dusk, meaning the critters were everywhere. Then when we were going moose hunting, he hit a deer with a Subaru. It went flying 10 feet in the air and off the side of the road into a very deep ravine. I was behind him in the pickup and thought it was so cool until I realized it was his car that that launched the deer. I hit one buck and had one doe run into my car (she ran off somewhere). The time of day you drive makes a big difference in how many deer you hit.
“Dead” deer are very dangerous, aren’t they?!

Reply to  Reality check
August 18, 2016 4:01 pm

“Dead” deer are very dangerous, aren’t they?!”
Acquaintance of mine picked up a dead grey squirrel once.
His hand looked like he’d put it in a waste disposal unit…
He won’t do that again.

August 12, 2016 9:35 pm

Probably should have read the Vegan Myth:
Before he began his virture signalling.

Reply to  willnitschke
August 13, 2016 8:45 am

” virture signalling”
That’s a great phrase. Concise and to the point.

Paul Westhaver
August 12, 2016 9:38 pm

There are plenty of human corpses caused by his green policy advocacy that he will no doubt resort to eating justified by his deranged sense of Eco-economy.
I wager if you ask that nut case, he would blank faced tell you that the eating of human flesh is morally justifiable from a sustainability POV.
What a freak!

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
August 12, 2016 9:47 pm

Mmmmmmmm. Soylent Green.

Paul Westhaver
August 12, 2016 9:57 pm

You have to examine the behavior of a man as an example of his nature, reason and compulsions.
Here we have a crazy green activist no doubt trying to become an venerated leader and seeking the approval of his minions. Everything he ever said or did is now calibrated against is obvious insanity.
This like Friedrich Nietzsche’s weird self loathing life culminating in him punching a horse in the face as he finally slid into insanity.
We are watching the end of a man’s life, real time. Has he nobody to talk sense to him?

August 12, 2016 9:59 pm

It is high carbohydrate and polyunsaturated fats that have caused the constantly rising obesity and heart disease in Western countries. We are 97% carnivore and never meant to experience the high glucose levels from carbohydrates all year round. We were meant only to see high carbohydrate intake during last summer and fall where, like bears, we are stimulated to make fat for the coming winter needs. It is the high glucose concentrations that irritate arterial linings and, in combination with small lipoproteins produced by low cholesterol and fatty acid intake, allow irritating small lipoproteins to enter the arterial walls, causing artherosclerosis.
The Western diet is one designed to bring us down, increase medical needs, and bolster the drug companies. Remember, cholesterol is a healing chemical. There is a billion dollar business around the use of statins, liver poisons that prevent the liver from making the cholesterol the body needs to heal from the high carbohydrate intake. Statins are, instead, liver damaging and cause liver failure or lover cancer.

Reply to  higley7
August 12, 2016 11:58 pm

Shhhh…ixnay on the uthtray ellingtay.

Reply to  higley7
August 13, 2016 12:05 am

“We are 97% carnivor”
Is that a consensus ??? (:-))

Brian H
Reply to  higley7
August 13, 2016 12:35 am

What is lover cancer? Sounds painful.

Smart Rock
Reply to  higley7
August 13, 2016 6:21 pm

higley – I assume that you’re joking.
On the off-chance that you’re not, can you give references to literature that supports your assertions that cholesterol is good for you, statins cause liver damage, and glucose causes atherosclerosis? By literature, I mean actual studies, not partisan diatribes..

Ralph E Snape
August 12, 2016 10:01 pm

“Last September I arranged to spend a day beside the River Culm in Devon, renowned for its wildlife and beauty. However, the stretch I intended to explore had been reduced to a stinking ditch, almost lifeless except for some sewage fungus.”
So the River upstream and downstream of the ‘intended stretch’ was brimming with life and free flowing? His grasp of English comprehension is as tenuous as his grasp of Climate.

Reply to  Ralph E Snape
August 13, 2016 8:50 am

Ralph E Snape August 12, 2016 at 10:01 pm
Ralph quotes Monbiot:

Last September I arranged to spend a day beside the River Culm in Devon, renowned for its wildlife and beauty. However, the stretch I intended to explore had been reduced to a stinking ditch, almost lifeless except for some sewage fungus.

Ralph then comments:

So the River upstream and downstream of the ‘intended stretch’ was brimming with life and free flowing? His grasp of English comprehension reality is as tenuous as his grasp of Climate.

H.R. fixes minor typo in Ralph’s comment ;o)

Reply to  H.R.
August 13, 2016 9:13 am

H.R., quoting Ralph E Snape, quoting the original from Monbiot.

Last September I arranged to spend a day beside the River Culm in Devon, renowned for its wildlife and beauty. However, the stretch I intended to explore had been reduced to a stinking ditch, almost lifeless except for some sewage fungus.

We are now taught by acres of US park rangers that such mosquito-breeding, swampy and useless byways of isolated ditches of stagnant water are “wetlands” and “must not be disturbed” (by repairing canal dams, by removing dirt and flood debris, by re-opening drainage paths slumped by falling debris) lest they actually become flowing clear water streams useful for walking trails, boats, canals, and fishing.
No, no! Swamps and mosquitoes ARE the new gods to be worshiped by our new elite because they feed “wildlife”. (Er, breed mosquitoes that kill people.) Clear, flowing streams and clean air? Abominations!

August 12, 2016 10:03 pm

I remember a few years ago a well known English rock star from the 80’s was committed to a mental hospital because he was behaving in a highly erratic fashion. On examination the psych asked why he had not been seen earlier, because it was quite clear that the poor chap had been quite loopy for a while. The answer was that, as a former rock star, his erratic behaviour was considered quite normal and he had to really push the envelope before anyone really noticed.
I wonder whether the same applies to Grauniad journos.
As for road kill I doubt that Monbiot has even yet worked out where it comes from.

August 12, 2016 10:17 pm

It is the amount of land an animal-based diet needs that makes it so destructive.

Let me guess, he doesn’t feel the same about all of the land ruined by ugly fields of solar panels?

Reply to  micro6500
August 13, 2016 2:41 pm

+ many!

August 12, 2016 10:18 pm

“I’ve converted to veganism to reduce my impact on the living world.”
If it’s that much of a concern to him, I can think of a much more effective way to reduce his impact on the living world.

August 12, 2016 10:22 pm

And now that I think some more about it, he doesn’t seem to consider the fact that by promising to eat road kill, he’s just encouraging the rest of us to drive our cars more to produce the roadkill he needs to eat to satisfy his moral urges. Just another environmentalist that refuses to consider negative feedback.

August 12, 2016 10:47 pm

Why does Moonbat think he should get first dibs on road kill ?
What about the birds and other critters that don’t have cars or credit cards ?
What a big meanie .
He must love those bird blenders . Doesn’t even have to run things over .

Reply to  Amber
August 12, 2016 11:13 pm

Didn’t he get this off the “Windmill Kill”?

UK Sceptic
August 12, 2016 10:50 pm

George “Moonbat” Monbiot. Humanity’s first Myxomatosis victim.

Reply to  UK Sceptic
August 13, 2016 1:25 am

Ya gottsta cook it extra crispy, to be sure.
And do not ferget the taters:

UK Sceptic
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 3:53 am

I bet the Moonbat is salivating even as I type this. 😀

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 4:55 am

Singapore special fried rat? Lovely!

August 12, 2016 11:03 pm

Monbiot is a full-on moron, no question. Total moron…100%.. and he is too stupid to realize it.

August 12, 2016 11:11 pm

Who considers this side show clown a “prominent Guardian Environmental Reporter”
Okay, “Guardian” was mentioned. Now I understand the oxymoron.

Phillip Bratby
August 12, 2016 11:33 pm

We were discussing this at Bishophill 3 days ago. I commented:
The Moonbat’s one-off experience of river pollution in Devon and the actions of the Environment Agency is a bit different from mine based on living here. There are two local farmers who are universally hated because of their greedy way of factory farming (one with dairy cattle on concrete and one with chickens in massive sheds). Both methods have nothing to do with animal rearing, but are purely business enterprises that could occur on an industrial estate rather than in the open countryside on farms. They both run anaerobic digesters (both ostensibly to get rid of the animal manure, but in reality to burn crops and get the massive subsidies from the Government-backed renewable energy policies). Both farmers have a history of disregarding best farming practice and both have caused pollution and have been (and continue to be) pursued by the Environment Agency, both having been massively fined recently and in the past. So the Moonbat’s one-off experience of the actions of the Environment Agency are totally different from my ongoing experience of the actions of the Environment Agency in pursuing pollutants.
It is well known that there are considerable benefits to our environment from the rearing of farm animals. The Moonbat is yet again just cherry-picking and showing his prejudices.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
August 13, 2016 5:24 am

‘We were discussing this at Bishophill 3 days ago.’
Bishophill hasn’t had a new thread since June 28. At least with my browser (Firefox).

David Chappell
Reply to  Gamecock
August 13, 2016 7:50 am

Untreaded and Discussion are still running

Kurt in Switzerland
August 12, 2016 11:39 pm

Maybe his idea could grow legs… Or wings… as it were.
George Monbiots’s Roadkill Kebab stands might pop up across the countryside, though it might not make the Halal quality certificate. The menu could rotate from rodent / lizard to pawed to hoofed, feathered, … Insect appetizers! Imagine the marketing success in offering the daily special, say, of “fresh” wind-farm stork or eagle kill, timed to the migration season! Or 2 for 1 for those recovering vegan couples!

Reply to  Kurt in Switzerland
August 13, 2016 12:03 am

I hear sewer rat tastes like pumpkin pie…and Halloween is coming up fast.

August 12, 2016 11:48 pm

I am still amazed by these Eco-Worriers (no, that is not a mis-spelling) and their understanding where their food come from (no it is not the Supermarket!). It take fossil fuel to power the machinery to plow the fields, petro-chemicals to fertilize them, till them and ultimately harvest. Not to mention the fossil fuel to power the trucks that transport the harvest. What about the fossil fuel used to process the food stuffs. Not to mention the fossil fuel powered manufacturing plants that build the tractor and truck.
Oh, wait! It will be done with electric tractors and trucks powered by wind turbines and another 2m
hectares of solar panels.. No, wait oxen, and carts. Jeez give me a break.

Brian H
Reply to  AussieBear.
August 13, 2016 12:40 am

Just recycle your breadcrumbs to Save The Wheat!

Reply to  AussieBear.
August 13, 2016 2:50 pm

@ Aussie bear, what about all the all the fossil fuels that the employees use driving to work to sell the food, the fuel they use to heat their houses , run their fridges, computers, wash their laundry, go visit the “folks”, drive to the doctors office , who drives to work, does his laundry ( at work), and the pharmacist who drives to work to fill the prescription the Dr. ordered, that goes home and does the laundr…….

Reply to  asybot
August 13, 2016 2:52 pm

‘that goes home and does the laundr……. “, sorry, “who goes home etc.”

August 12, 2016 11:56 pm

OK with me. LOL

August 13, 2016 12:05 am

Roadkill? Flee for your life George cos you’ll be more than roadkill when we run over you and you’ll be the ones Down Under-
Think of it like sea level rise projections and add it to the warmening doom list coming to get ya George-

August 13, 2016 12:39 am

Moonbat, you’re nuttier than a portaloo at a peanut festival. If you’re worried about the overuse of land, focus on the pointless harvesting of biofuels.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 13, 2016 12:50 am

Thanks Eric. Fair play to him for that piece. Perhaps he thought that subject through while collecting his Sunday roast from wind kill.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 13, 2016 3:23 am

I bet Willie Nelson isn’t a fan of biodiesel either. Until a couple years ago there was a good sized truck stop with his name on it on I-35 W south of Dallas, TX. It had nothing but biodiesel at the pumps. It now does not have Willies name on it and the pumps have regular ultra low sulfur diesel and has a lot more trucks going through it than it did previously.

tony mcleod
August 13, 2016 12:43 am

From the – let’s sneer at anyone with a different point of view department.

Reply to  tony mcleod
August 13, 2016 1:02 am

I have not seen any sneering here.
Hysterical laughter, yes.
Concerns for his very sanity, for sure.
Outright contempt, certainly.
But no sneering…sneering implies anger, which would suggest them doing the sneering take him seriously.
Nope…none of that.
But I will happily sneer at you if you are suggesting that “a road kill eating vegan will save the planet” is just another point of view.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 7:19 am

i’m sneering.
sure, at first i just arched an eyebrow and glanced askance- but that didn’t seem withering enough.
i’m thinking i need a snidely whiplash moustache for a really potent sneer, though.
cuz deep down i’m convinced he’s not getting his protein from roadkill.

tony mcleod
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 5:40 pm

Nicely played Menicholas: set up a straw man so you can sneer a bit more.
Have you ever asked yourself the question – Does any creature value it’s own life less than I value mine?
That was the starting point for me to choose not to eat meat.

Reply to  tony mcleod
August 13, 2016 10:30 pm

Does any creature value it’s own life less than I value mine?
That was the starting point for me to choose not to eat meat.

Since you don’t eat meat, maybe not, however much of the animal kingdom is not self-aware, so I think for the meat eaters most animals don’t really even know they are alive. ;D

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 8:40 pm

And what is the straw man, pray do tell?
You make a single sentence cryptic remark and then depart.
I responded, somewhat tongue in cheek but not completely unthoughtful.
In fact, many of the comments here show, IMO, much more thoughtfulness and insight that that displayed by Monbiot himself.
His article makes no sense, as it attempts to solve a non-existent problem by dint of a ridiculous proposition…being a vegan but eating road kill.
It does not even have any internal logic.
If you feel strongly or think you can rebut what has been said here, you should do so.
Your simple comment seems more like sneering to me than most any of the other comments.
But you should defend your point of view if you have one.
And I was wrong and admitted it…some here say they were sneering.
Funny you speak disparagingly of preconceived bias, when you display a healthy dose of that towards this site and everyone on it.
Laughable, really.
You should perhaps watch the video posted of how meat eater (read that normal people) would behave if they acted like vegans.
I would bet you hate it.

tony mcleod
Reply to  Menicholas
August 14, 2016 6:30 am

That’s a very convenient assumption micro.
Menicholas I agree, claiming to be vegan is going to proclude you from eating any kind of kill.

Reply to  tony mcleod
August 13, 2016 5:04 am

Even wild animals know not to eat what they didn’t kill.

Paul Coppin
Reply to  Gamecock
August 15, 2016 4:19 am

Yeah no. Most species which are omnivorous and not obligate carnivores will sample and eat just about anything. They may not stay on the feed, or simply just sample it and move on. Humans can eat a much wider variety of “foods” then we do. Mostly, our digestive system will reject the undigestible. However, free chomping on whatever crosses your path carries huge risks. Rotting carcasses generate neurotoxins. A whole range of really nasty parasites are just waiting for a new host. While avian roadkill is frequently happenstance, many mammals caught on the road are sick. Dangerously sick with communicable disease with very serious consequences. Having spent many professional years in the study of diseases of wildlife, thanks, but no thanks, on the roadkill for dinner.
Moonbat chews on roadkill because he is confident that our evolved medical science can fix whatever ills it gives him. Britain’s evolved animal/environmental health and welfare has given a degree of protection to wildlife as well. Moonbat is able to be smug because the accrued knowledge and practice of those who have “despoiled” the environment before him have allowed him to be so. He’s nothing more than a hypocrite.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  tony mcleod
August 13, 2016 10:17 am

Yes I was sneering when he didn’t seem to know that plants are living things. He might benefit from going back to elementary school and learning that plants are living things.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
August 13, 2016 3:37 pm

I stand corrected.
But apparently Mr. McLeod did not care to stick around and explain why we should not laugh, or psychoanalyze, or voice scorn…or even sneer at Monbiot’s “point of view”.
If one cannot defend what one says, perhaps the point was not a very strong one, eh?

tony mcleod
Reply to  Leonard Lane
August 13, 2016 5:36 pm

Ah yes, just woken up here in Australia, sneering is so much easier than thoughtful examination.
Doesn’t matter who or what topic, if it contradicts the preconceived bias it gets the full sneer treatment here at Lets sneer at that.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
August 14, 2016 7:32 pm

i’ll put on my sneering snood.

August 13, 2016 12:46 am

He is going to eat vegan roadkill? Tumbleweeds? A new form of veganism?

August 13, 2016 12:54 am

Meat means murder…………..

Reply to  jones
August 13, 2016 1:06 am

Yes…delicious, flame broiled murder!comment image

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 2:01 am


Mike Bryant
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 6:42 am

Mouthwatering homicide…

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 7:30 am


Reply to  jones
August 13, 2016 3:25 am

So do eggs. I like mine over easy please.

Reply to  jones
August 13, 2016 4:25 pm

Now I don’t mean to go off at a tangent here with this but once Georgie succeeds in banning the use of the internal combustion engine won’t all the road kill then all dry up?
He’s a Turkey voting for Christmas.
Or will he have a back-up plan?

Paul Coppin
Reply to  jones
August 15, 2016 4:23 am

Murder is an entirely anthropomorphic concept. For a very large part of the animal kingdom, meat means dinner. Now, for a subset of that, meat doesn’t even have to be dead. We are all food for something, dead or alive.

August 13, 2016 1:35 am

He is actually correct on many levels although a lot of this is due to the Elephant in the room. IE Population increase of about 100million per year. Carbon Credits just don’t cut it there.

Reply to  nankerphelge
August 13, 2016 2:02 am

What elephant…where?
Food production is increasing much faster than population, with no hint of any abatement in the trend.
And CO2 is increasing, ensuring ever more marginal land comes into food production, and those acres that are in production grow ever increasing quantities of food and do so faster than ever.
Besides, if there is ever not enough food, people will have to get all the way down to the stage of eating a healthy amount of food instead of an amount which makes lots of us rotund lumps of jiggly-jelly, before a point is reached of starvation.

Reply to  nankerphelge
August 13, 2016 2:08 am

Besides Nankerphelge (hey, good handle!), we can always just move the line over some more to the left:comment image

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 3:27 am

The bunny rabbit needs to be on the other side of the line.

charles nelson
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 4:00 am

I’ve had horse…not bad, if cooked right.
I’d draw the line around ‘cat’.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 4:52 am

Is it too early to say Korea and left of the line?

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 4:53 am

Dog is popular in some Asian countries. — Eugene WR Gallun

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 4:53 am

Or in fact Belgium (Horse)?

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 5:03 am

There is an animal missing from the billboard.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 7:33 am

What happened to the “tolerance brigade” here? Many people eat rabbits, and several places it is acceptable to eat both dog and cat. Who are these people to say that eating these animals is wrong? That would make them bigoted and attempting to prove moral superiority.
(Rabbit definately belongs on the other side of the line.)

David Chappell
Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 7:58 am

Apart from the horse and the rabbit that poster only has two other animals on it on the pet side – cats and dogs.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 11:01 am

I know, not a very good poster for the given meme.
Where is the sheep, or the goat?
In South America and Africa, I understand a lot of monkey is consumed.
I personally would keep rabbits on the food side, not because I would eat one, but my pets do if they can catch one, and that makes them food. And those little footsies make a groovy rear view mirror ornament.
But ducks are on the pet side…they are cute when babies and too greasy for my taste.
It is completely and 100% subjective…we all want to live, but we all in fact die at some point.
Is it better for a certain group of animals to never be born if they are getting cooked for food in the end?
In the wild natural environment, virtually every beast winds up as dinner eventually, and not a clean painless death, but consumed while not quite dead in many cases.
So who is to say having a billion chickens or cows which would never have been born is a bad thing because they will be killed and eaten someday?
Is it better to have loved, or lived, and lost, than to never have loved, or lived, at all?
A question for the ages…I am no closer to a definitive answer than the bard was I suspect, nor is anyone else.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 11:08 am

I am no closer to a definitive answer than the bard was I suspect, nor is anyone else.

All depends if you want to live and breed, cause if you are not eating something alive, at least for now, you’re dead.
Me, I don’t want to be dead, and I like meat.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 11:16 am

Well, if you want to eat a vegan diet the gorilla diet (which is mostly vegan) offers guidance
A gorilla does have to supplement its diet to get missing nutrients.
Gorillas, possibly the closest to vegan of all the species closely related to humans, eat insects and sometimes feces

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 6:33 pm

suspect the folks in Venezuela would move the line all the way left, and even further if there was more protein left of that.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 14, 2016 6:51 am

Couldn’t help but notice that all the animals shown are all of the domesticated variety. Some of us eat quite a few other animals that aren’t domesticated and which are not represented on the billboard. A heck of a lot more animals not shown belong on the food side of that line. At least the silly people that paid for it don’t have to worry about Squirrels, deer, geese, etc rising up in protest that “wild lives matter”.

Reply to  nankerphelge
August 13, 2016 2:11 am

That’s two besides’.
Let me know if that’ll hold ya for a while

Reply to  Menicholas
August 13, 2016 8:19 am

It all comes down to if your hungry enough yet!

August 13, 2016 2:10 am

there was something on the wireless this morning; out of ~240 dead chicken chicks left out in a field in 24 there were ~3 left. Monbiot can go to Waitrose for his provisions so why deprive birds, small mammals and insects of a decent meal ?

Another Ian
August 13, 2016 2:31 am

For road kill he should come to this part of the world. He’d wax fat on the road kill of those nearly extinct kangaroos

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Another Ian
August 13, 2016 4:57 am

He could move to Texas and feast every night on Armadillo. — Eugene WR Gallun .

Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
August 13, 2016 5:07 am

Armadillo = Possum on the half shell.

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
August 13, 2016 8:51 am

RAH — Haha! Good one! — Eugene WR Gallun

Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
August 13, 2016 4:42 pm

AKA hoover hogs–some a bit older than me would remember

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Another Ian
August 13, 2016 8:38 am

Of course, they need to be fully cooked, to kill off the Bubonic Plague bacteria. I recommend battered and deep fried…

Reply to  Steve Fraser
August 13, 2016 11:57 am

Actually the Armadillo is a carrier of Hanson’s Disease (Leprosy). Because they were found to be susceptible they were used for cultivating the disease. Last I read they hadn’t figured out if Armadillos acquired it because they were used as animal models for research or if they already were carriers before experimentation. But they have found carriers in the wild. The last Leprosarium in the Continental US was at Carville, LA where they did the research on Armadillos but it was closed years ago. The CDC says that transmission of the disease from Armadillo to humans is rare but possible.

Another Ian
Reply to  Steve Fraser
August 13, 2016 1:33 pm

They’re a delicacy in parts of Brasil – “tatu”

August 13, 2016 3:04 am

Well, if every Human on the planet were to follow his example….we would all have to do a lot more driving to keep up the supply of road kill !! (Do electric cars actually go fast enough to produce road kill, and would the car survive the first impact ??) lol

Frank Karvv
August 13, 2016 3:18 am

Maybe he should think about eating cadavers preferably those comprised of green constituents.

August 13, 2016 3:46 am

Need to watch the Monbiots of the world, one small step and its pesky humans in the diet -crosshairs!!

Reply to  KenB
August 13, 2016 4:16 am


Reply to  KenB
August 13, 2016 4:23 am

PP, embrync and ftl ccktails, “Young blood antiaging trial raises questions”

Reply to  KenB
August 13, 2016 4:24 am

Wow. The censors are itchy today. They will only permit a Twitter response. I wonder what sets them off.

August 13, 2016 4:05 am

Why roadkill, when there is a smorgasbord of flora and fauna displaced, destroyed by large-scale windmill and photovoltaic farms? Well, airkill and groundkill. It must be hard to be so green.

August 13, 2016 4:19 am

Is there some kind of reason for the rich phony-lefties at the Guardian to keep supporting this mentally ill person? Treading water until they can find some new direction?

August 13, 2016 4:22 am

Bonne appétit, cher Georges.

Patrick MJD
August 13, 2016 4:50 am

Ok George, go for it;
Leave the beef to me.

Harry Passfield
August 13, 2016 5:12 am

Moral maze time: You’re a meat-eater (just love those T-Bones) and you invite some friends round for dinner. One couple are vegetarians so you cater for their needs accordingly (‘cos they made a point of warning you ahead of time!) with no second thoughts. You then get a return invite to the vegetarians’ home. Do you think it possible they will offer you a T-Bone – with no second thoughts? Would it be unreasonable to expect one?

Reply to  Harry Passfield
August 13, 2016 9:07 am

Bring your own steaks, Harry ;o)

Reply to  H.R.
August 13, 2016 11:09 am

They would not want it touching their plates, utensils, frying pans…and vegetarians have little use for a grill, so that is out…I guess aluminum foil on a cookie sheet in the broiler…but those spatters on the oven interior…deary me!

Reply to  H.R.
August 13, 2016 2:38 pm

Grilled asparagus is good. Also corn on the cob and potatoes.

Hari Seldon
August 13, 2016 6:01 am

The best thiing he can do to save the planet is to eat himself.

August 13, 2016 6:31 am

This jerk sees an instance of where a dairy farm is polluting and foolishly assumes they all do. Well, my uncle owned a dairy farm for years and never polluted anything. Monbiot is about as superficial a thinker as one can imagine. The bovine they picture is a milk cow – we don’t eat milk cows, we milk them, stupid. We eat herd cattle and we would not save them by not eating them, since they would cease to exist. So is it better to want those cattle never to live or to live and exist live until slaughter? Hmmm.. a question far beyond Monbiot’s primitive thought processes.

Reply to  arthur4563
August 13, 2016 11:11 am

I commented in a similar vein before reading this.
I agree with everything you said, Arthur.

August 13, 2016 6:33 am

I guess the main question is why this guy thinks using 3 acres for human grain versus 10 acres for feed grain is such a benefit to the planet?

August 13, 2016 7:04 am

Now hang on did I read that right – we use 11m Ha of which 4m is arable and yet if we take 7m Ha out of livestock farming this would also lead to a reduction in arable farming to 3m Ha. Eh, how does that work, would he care to explain?

Reply to  mwh
August 13, 2016 8:22 am

Well I guess there is some arable used for livestock feed, maybe 1m Ha. But if we cut out eating meat then that 3m Ha will need to double to replace the meat we won’t be eating.

John Robertson
August 13, 2016 7:05 am

Short version of Georges ramblings; “Eat your Greens”.
Logically that is where he is going.
Gang Green,stupidity so pernicious you can not parody it.
Not in todays politically correct idiosphere.

Reply to  John Robertson
August 13, 2016 7:32 am

“Eat your Greens”.
oh, nice.
he’s just a major vein of dark humor now, right?
we can reboot all those jeffrey dahmer jokes now, in honor of the wingless vulture

August 13, 2016 7:44 am

Okay, we all go vegan. So must our dogs and cats then. No more “Fancy Feast” unless it’s carrots in avocado sauce. No more “Prime cuts” for dogs unless it’s turnips in tomato sauce. I bought “vegan” dog treats for my dog to see how they work. She eats the treat only after exhausting all other possibilities and searching high and low for other treats she might have hidden. (She does love potatoes, though!) Anyway, cats don’t do well without meat according to what I’ve read. I suppose we are simply supposed to free the cats and dogs, which will take care of much of the wildlife in the area and make walking interesting as the dogs form packs and search for meat for dining.

Reply to  Reality check
August 13, 2016 11:15 am

Cats will die for sure without meat.
I read of some vegans tossed in jail for starving a “beloved pet” cat nearly to death by feeding it a vegan diet.
When the asinine reaches the stage of criminality, we are in a strange world indeed.
Or maybe such people are actually as stupid as they are sometimes accused of being.

Paul Coppin
Reply to  Reality check
August 15, 2016 4:35 am

Cats are obligate carnivores. They derive the bulk of their water from fresh meat, and don’t free drink all that much out in the wild. The kill for sport as well as dinner, not necessarily eating their kill (as do many carnivorous mammals). In the home, there is sufficient water mostly in good quality canned wet cat food, but it better be low in non-protein content. Dry meal must be accompanied by free water ad libitum. There is a reason why there are lots of cute cat videos showing puss slurping out of the ivory throne. Dogs are omnivores, not obligate carnivores.

August 13, 2016 9:10 am

Stupidity annoys me. In this case it is my own stupidity in not seeing that Monbiot’s “road kill” is a deliberate attempt to draw attention away from the victims of the Greenie windmill religion. With the help of government subsidies they sacrifice millions of birds and bats every year to please their great God of Glonal Warming that rules by its Greenhouse Effect.

August 13, 2016 9:28 am

Completely mentally unbalanced. I doubt the authenticity of the “guardian’ relative to the human race.
No one in their right mind would read anything published by this publication. Says it all.

August 13, 2016 10:16 am

Well actually giving it a lot of thought I’ve come to the conclusion George is really onto something big for the planet here. Imagine a chain of butcher shops where we can drop off our sundry road kill for lots of folk like George to feast on and naturally being the freedom loving folk we are, there’s no need for any tax-eating health officials and the like as this is all organic foodstuff. No restrictive opening hours either, as they’d need to be open weekends as many of us work and say we picked up some juicy road kill on the way to work Monday, they need to be open weekends when we’re free to drop it off and empty the boot.Yep, all things considered, George is really onto something here.

Reply to  observa
August 13, 2016 11:18 am

And something will soon be onto him, like a collection of fleas and other parasites.
We will all need a hermetically sealed box in our car if we wish to avoid a similar fate.

Roy Spencer
August 13, 2016 11:39 am

George is only doing this to get dates. Chicks dig guys who eat road kill.

August 13, 2016 11:43 am

Reply to  Groty
August 13, 2016 4:03 pm

Now THAT was funny!

August 13, 2016 12:38 pm

Didn’t I read somewhere that Italy has,or is going to,make it a criminal offence for vegans to feed their children a vegan diet?

Gary Hladik
August 13, 2016 1:35 pm

“The world can cope with 7 or even 10 billion people. But only if we stop eating meat.”
Willis dealt with this particular myth here:

Bruce Cobb
August 13, 2016 2:12 pm

He’s certainly no vegan if he eats roadkill, no matter what his rationale is. It’s like saying “I’m a vegan, supplemented with McD’s hamburgers.” If he’s so interested in “reducing his impact”, I’m suprised he doesn’t eat out of dumpsters.

August 13, 2016 2:49 pm

Moonbat is following in the footsteps of our ancestors. Long before our forebears could actually hunt and kill large animals, we fed our fat-hungry brains with marrow from the long bones of megaherbivores, accessed by using that Paleolithic multitool, the hand axe, and from eating the brains of smaller game, like bushbabies and monkeys, and each others.
Hence H. habilis, at most 600cc brain capacity, became H. erectus at 800 or more and H. sapiens at 1200 to 1600.

Reply to  Gabro
August 13, 2016 2:50 pm

Versus chimps and our hominid australopithecine ancestors around 300cc.

August 13, 2016 2:55 pm

Famous eccentric Victorian paleontologist and geologist William Buckland, who died insane, after eating his way through the animal kingdom, a practice followed by his also well-known son:
That said, my friends in Northern Idaho regularly eat road-killed elk and deer, just cutting away the rotten parts.
And Oregon prisons used to feed inmates large road kills collected by state cops. Might still do, for all I know.

August 13, 2016 2:57 pm

Does anyone have his address? There is a dead bloated skunk outside of town along the road I can send him. A bonus: lots of protein from all the maggots.

August 13, 2016 3:19 pm

“Perhaps you could call me a pestitarian.” Poor thing – maybe just a pest is sufficient?

August 13, 2016 4:17 pm

So the change of diet is the reason why Moonbat is talking even more out of his arse than usual?! wow, I didn’t think that was even a possibility seeing as the bar is set so high.
I would call him lots of things, pestitarian would probably not be first on the list. Or on the list.

August 13, 2016 5:55 pm

I recommend the roadkill from outside the Akubra Hat factory, South Kempsey industrial estate. The hares have their accidents on the change of light, so it’s service twice a day. (The theory that animals avoid factories reeking of dead animal pelts was probably promulgated by an academic who has since gone on to a stellar career as a climate scientist or Keynesian economist.)

Chris Riley
Reply to  mosomoso
August 14, 2016 7:07 pm

“climate scientist = Keynesian economist.” brilliant!!!! They play on the same team as described below:
climate scientist = Keynesian economist= enemy of of freedom

August 14, 2016 12:32 am

Why is it of the slightest importance what George Monbiot says or does?
The man is a self-righteous metropolitan luvvie who owns property in the country.
If he were a real green, he wouldn’t be guzzling all that fuel to get down to his country pad from London all the time.
Would he??

Dr. Strangelove
August 14, 2016 4:51 am

I’m not impressed. Monbiot is sissy. I like Bear Grylls. He eats bugs for high protein diet

August 14, 2016 6:55 am

The obvious next stop for this train of thought is cannibalism.

August 14, 2016 7:57 am

That’s a very convenient assumption micro.


August 14, 2016 8:22 am

This is a great book. I looked for it in a bookstore in the Humor section. I found it in the Nature section.
Its inset drawing for scale is a section of highway stripe (4 inches). image
In the second half of the book you’ll get the idea that the author is a bit more serious than you first thought. That’s where he talks about reinforcing and enlarging the front bumper of your pickup so you can make your own fresh roadkill cheaply.

Reply to  Ric Werme
August 14, 2016 8:32 am

This might have promise too.comment image

August 14, 2016 10:52 am

hmm eating roadkill. 17 kinds of meat from red green show

Chris Riley
August 14, 2016 4:05 pm

Buzzards, maggots, Monbiots, the carrion-eaters, the lowest of life forms.
[Please. Do not gratuitously and arbitrarily continue to insult perfectly functional buzzards and maggots on this site. .mod]

August 14, 2016 11:08 pm

If ever an example of how failing to eat sensibly were needed in order to highlight mental insufficiency, Monbiot is that example. Animal fat & protein provide all the materials we need. About half our brains and nervous systems are composed of complicated long-chain fatty acid molecules, which are also used by the walls of our blood vessels. Without them, we cannot develop normally. These complicated fatty acids do not occur in plants, but simpler forms do exist. (Crawford M. Crawford S. “The food we eat today” Spearman, London 1972).
Herbivores eat grasses & seeds & they convert these simpler fatty acids into the complicated molecules we need. Thus it makes sense for us & other meat eaters to eat herbivores. Monbiot struggles to make sense of the world because of his diet. Perhaps Monbiot’s new penchant for depriving other meat eaters of road kill, will demonstrate to Guardianistas, the ruinous cognitive dissonance of one of their favourite scribblers?

Paul Coppin
Reply to  Perry
August 15, 2016 4:41 am

“ruinous cognitive dissonance” Wa-a-ay too many syllables for their favourite scribblers…

August 15, 2016 2:20 am

So, shall I sum this up by saying that there is an awful lot of very strange feeling of antipathy and rather bizarre repugnance of vegans? Some of the comments border on salivating hatred and loathing. It’s been a great lesson in psychology, though.
And no, I’m not a vegan. And by the way, neither is Monbiot, obviously. Odd how many commenters never picked that up, but were too focused on beating vegans up.

Paul Coppin
Reply to  bazzer1959
August 15, 2016 4:47 am

You don’t get it. Commenters aren’t freaked out by a non-meat diet. That’s a personal choice any here might make for good and sufficient personal reasons. What gets under the skin of most people is the sanctimony that professed vegans (and most other zealots as well) dish out, frequently hypocritically. The obvious and ludicrous disconnect Monbiot expresses in his article about what he is talking about and the link he draws is what commenters are sneering at. His article is so two-dimensional you could slip it under any closed door anywhere.

Reply to  Paul Coppin
August 15, 2016 3:26 pm

No, Paul, I do get it, you don’t. Sanctimony I fully understand. Abhorrance and dislike for someone’s choice of diet is just plain weird…and very common. I’m a vegetarian, you see, have been for 32 years…and I’ve heard it for 32 years. And no, I don’t preach because I don’t care if people eat animals. The principle form of abuse I’ve received is that I may be gay…even though I’ve been happily married for 29 years. Seriously, Paul, you don’t know. Even my wife has heard it. People are just soooo odd.

Reply to  bazzer1959
August 15, 2016 5:06 am

Jeez, bazz, that’s some real tough talkin’ yuv got there: “very strange feeling of antipathy”…”bizarre repugnance”…”salivating [nice touch, bazz!] hatred and loathing”…”great lesson in psychology” [the ultimate, good-comrade gut-punch!]
I can merely speak for myself, bazz, ol’ sport, but, for moi, my normally torpid salivary glands only get fired-up into a vegan-genic, froth-friendly drool when they are confronted with the importunate pesterings of some fuss-pot, phytophagous hive-bozo of the self-righteous, lecturing, authoritarian busy-body and foodie-chekist-wannabe persuasion, and/or when they are confronted, in an enclosed space, with the serial-offender, stink-bomb flatulence of some lefty-herbivore–such provocation invariably eliciting from them a free-flowing slobber in survival-instinct fraternal-solidarity with my stricken olfactory organs. Just Pavlovian-reflex, bazz–that’s all. And, in that regard, bazz, if you want to find in my “strange antipathy” and “bizarre repugnance”, towards a certain type of vegan, a good lesson in psychology–then have at it, guy.

Reply to  mike
August 15, 2016 3:20 pm

Well actually, Mike, it’s right there. I mean, really, the fact that you HAD to comment on my lexicon says a lot! Don’t ever play poker with a pro – you’re going to lose a lot of money. You may need to think about that (you may not).
We all get annoyed at sanctimony, but it’s good for the blood pressure to just roll one’s eyes. What I saw above (and have heard in restaurants) is a peculiar hostility toward vegans and vegetarians when they HAVEN’T even said anything sanctimonious!

Dr. Strangelove
August 15, 2016 4:06 am

If Monbiot eats roadkill, Obama eats bear leftover with Bear Grylls. Bear should have given him the bugs. The high protein bugs might cure Obama’s delusions

August 15, 2016 4:17 am

Is that pronounced “Moonbat?”

Paul Coppin
Reply to  John M
August 15, 2016 4:49 am

English pronunciation of a French name. Sort of. Or not. Take your pick.

August 15, 2016 7:15 am

He could help all concerned if he would simply stop eating altogether. After thirty days or less he could be someone’s meal – a little boney maybe, but hey!…

August 15, 2016 8:26 am

How about voluntarily putting a stop to that nasty oxygen habit you have georgy?

August 15, 2016 9:48 am

Grandstanding again…..from the sub-basement or sewers.

August 15, 2016 12:18 pm

Given that it is Monbiot eating roadkill, I would have to say that comes VERY close to cannibalism.

August 15, 2016 8:32 pm

A EricHa
August 13, 2016 at 12:10 pm
“…Large animals like deer should be hung for up to five days in a cool area, such as a garage. The butchering process is also messy, though Krestovnikoff says people can take their roadkill along to a butcher to do this part.”
I find deer taste best after hanging for at least a week, and up to four, for larger bucks.
Having been “burned” by butchers a couple of times, I prefer to cut my own meat. But hanging it at home is difficult to time without a cold room. I’ve missed out a few deer seasons waiting for the cold weather to hunt. Better harvest early and hang it in a butcher’s cold locker.
But make sure it’s whole and easily identifiable, or you may end up getting someone else’s deer and paying for hanging time you didn’t get.

Reply to  otropogo
August 15, 2016 8:52 pm

And in the rest of the nation – Where it doesn’t get cold enough long enough to even think of a “cold room” without energy and freezers?
Monbiot is a fool, but will hopefully, not transmit disease or parasites or organisms/food poisoning to others by “sharing” roadkill.

Moon Bat
August 16, 2016 4:48 pm

Moonbat is a communist who wants to destroy western civilisation. That is all you have to know about him and his ilk. Every single word that comes from his mouth is designed to destroy us as is every policy that he supports.