Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Its not just Greens who are worried about Europe – the President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker stated in a speech that leaders of other planets are worried about the direction Europe will take, in the wake of the Brexit vote.
Did EU chief confirm aliens EXIST? Juncker ‘speaks of BREXIT to leaders of other planets’
ALIEN conspiracy theorists were sent into overdrive after European Commission president Jean Claude Juncker appeared to say he had “heard from the leaders of other planets”.
Clips of the EU big wig speaking in a Brexit debate are going viral online, after he was heard to say aliens were worried about the looming Brexit by the UK from the union.
He said, translated from French: “You need to know that those who observe us from afar are worried.
“I have have seen, listened and heard many leaders of other planets and they are very worried because they wonder about the course the EU will follow.
“So we have to reassure both the Europeans and those who observe us from afar.”
Here is a youtube of the alleged “alien” speech:
I don’t speak French, but according to Google Translate, the phrase “leaders of other planets” in French is “dirigeants d’autres planètes”, which sounds awfully like the phrase Mr. Juncker uttered.
While it might be funny to consider the possibility the head of the über green European Union receives instruction from other planets, the more likely mundane explanation is that it was a slip of the antenna. Rumours have abounded for a while that Mr Juncker is fond of the odd tipple before public events – perhaps he simply over indulged a little more than usual, before making the “alien” speech.
Planets = nations?
Nation is “la nation” or “les pays”… don’t know of any other word close to what was said.
I have lived in France for 20 years. There are two possibilities for what he said:
plusieurs dirigeants, d’autres planètes : several leaders of other planets;
plusieurs dirigeants, d’autours de la planète : several leaders from around the planet.
Having listened to this about 20 times, there is no doubt that what he said was the first phrase. The laughs in the background, presumably from French speaking members of the chamber support that. ( It would be interesting to here what the EU translators providing real time translations to other non-french speaking members provided as a translation into their headphones).
The idea that this was some kind of humoristic comment is not credible. He clearly is not sharp-minded or fluent enough in his delivery to slipping a joke in here: is struggling form his sentences and seems rather lost in what he is trying to say.
The cause of that may be several things: too much ‘hospitality’ at the expense of the european taxpayer; onset of alzheimer’s ; a simple slip of the tongue; too much Star Trek ….
Either way,if it were me I wouldn’t admit I was having “Conversations”with Aliens.would you?
Well I am an alien, but he certainly never consulted me; or verse vicea.
But then French either spoken or written has always baffled me. Why they use Z instead of Y and the other way round, I just don’t get.
Well they do in Geneva anyway.
But having said that, If I ever heard somebody try to sing Hector Berlioz ” Les Troyens ” in English, you would hear the shriek from anywhere in Europe. I guess they must say Les Trozens in Geneva.
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I have have seen, listened and heard many leaders of other planets and they are very worriedI have have seen, listened and heard our leaders from other planets and they are very worried ..fixed it..
I thing he meant to say “autour planete”.
From leaders around the planet.
While amusing, I think this is getting a bit ridiculous
Listening to it again, autour in mind, I think you’ve got it.
A slurred lushy “autour” would fit… avec plus du chablish….
No, it was a slip of the tongue revealing the truth that we are ruled by aliens from outer space who are all heat phobic creatures like the Snow Queen, for example, or the Witch in the Wardrobe.
Leave Elsa out of this, EMS
Indeed, the green movement is nothing but an alien plot to soften our brains for later harvest.
Nope. If he had said “autour”, he wouldn’t have preceded it with “d’ “. IMHO, any blunder by manipulators of science for political gain should be fair game here. (Hint: You can spot them by their fixation on “the planet” and the salvation thereof.) The MSM ridicules anyone who questions the political establishment; let us have a little fun of our own at WUWT.
Ben, he says “d’autres planetes” (other planets), when he clearly meant to say “d’autres pays” (other countries).
At least, I hope he did.
I have lived in France for 20 years. There are two possibilities to what he said:
Plusieurs dirigeants d’autres planètes : several leaders of other planets.
Plusieurs dirigeants d’autours de la planète : several leaders from around the world.
Having listened to it about 20 times, I have no doubt that he spoke the first phrase not the second.
The reason for that may be him getting tongue-tied after too much free tipple at the european public/s expense; onset of alzheimer’s; a freudian slip or some other possible speculation.
The whole story sounded like he was making it up as he was speaking anyway. He said he’d “seen ….. erm spoken to …… erm heard” several leaders …. etc. Well, alight , I didn’t actually hear them say that myself, but someone I know told me they had heard it said.
For those suggesting this was humorous, he does not sound sufficiently sharp or together enough to present anything like that. He is having difficulty sorting his sentences out.
No he would have to have said “d’autours de la planète” . See my ( later) comment above. There is no hint of the those two extra syllables.
Nope.
Well, I do speak mediocre French and that sure is what it sounded like to me…
Maybe there is some obscure form that isn’t common and I don’t know it, but it would need to be a bit unusual.
To be fair to the man I think it was said in jest…there were a couple of chuckles in the background. Unbelievably his sense of humour is even worse than mine!
Laughter has it’s cultural twists. I spend 6 weeks a year in Europe, and those chuckles sound like embarrassment, not amusement.
Maybe it was in jest, maybe he was a little tipsy. It seemed to me, from the video, the diplomats in the immediate vicinity (yes, I heard what sounded like guffaws, off camera) took what he said seriously. Of course, my tin foil hat could be a bit askew, too.:)
Jest? Not at all, the alcohol in his system caused him to forget his tinfoil hat!
Perhaps he has been drinking too much bad French wine. At least that might make more sense, otherwise he is ready for the loony bin.
It’s all good. Hillary Clinton is another “I Want to Beleive” UFO nutter.
At least he’s in good company.
I speak French fluently – grew up and went to school in France.
I can confirm that Juncker said “d’autres planetes” = from other planets and “qui nous observent de loin” = who observe/look at us from afar.
It has been common knowledge for years in European Union circles that he has a well developed alcohol problem – he also chain smokes, including in meetings, against all rules and regulations – those apply to others.
Juncker is the very embodiment of the faceless, unelected and unaccountable Brussels EU bureaucracy – the cause and target of much of the anti-EU sentiment across Europe.
Out to lunch – and no shame….
I’m not sure what area “mediocre” French is spoken but Juncker must come from there, too!
You also repeat yourself.
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To serve man.
To serve EU man first!
A cookbook? 😉
Steyn’s waiting for that to happen, but with an extra ‘n’.
Well, I do speak French (and even more fluent German), What he said is generally correctly translated by you. Brexit desparation in evidence.
Well, perhaps on other planets water does not hydrate, and CO2 is poison.
They do say that the climate models simulate planetary atmospheres. He must be speaking to the leaders of those planets, not ours.
The man leaves much to be desired for someone in such a high position but presumably he just stumbled and didn’t correct himself or meant it as a jest. I don’t seriously believe he literally meant it, anyway the source is the Express newspaper which always need double checking when it comes to this sort of story
tonyb
That, Tonyb, would suggest that someone in favour of the totalitarian EU has a sense of humour to begin with!
ristvan, my wife agrees with your interpretation, She lived in Geneva for 12 years, and said “this guy’s either having a stroke or on some pretty nasty stuff.”
Cheap wine?????
“some pretty nasty stuff”
Brexit after party?
See my comment above: he said “d’autres planets” and ” qui nous observant de loin”.
Three sheets to the wind….
Heh. Yeah, he just fumbled, intending to say “countries” or “nations” or the like. However… that he did not catch himself….. I mean, imagine yourself, very nervous (in this hypothetical — we’ll give him that), accidentally saying that you spoke with leader of other “planets.” Wouldn’t you catch yourself?? And immediately say something like, “… I mean, ‘nations?'”!!!??
Hm. All one can conclude that the poor man’s mind was under some kind of pressure, laboring under a very real fear (or fatigue? or…, sadly, as was suggested, drunk?).
GO, UNITED KINGDOM — you’ve got those ol’ neo-stalinists rattled! 🙂
And I am not drunk — I just forgot to properly close the bold tag AND THERE IS NO EDITING. But, I still LOVE this website (just not the host, WordP).
And, yes, Brian H, I left out a word and a letter, but, too bad!! 🙂
Now Janice are you tippling on us behind our backs. Just stick with one beer and you’ll be ok.
G
All the more reason to make English the universal language of international affairs. Commercial airlines use it, so why not the UN. The story of the tower of Babel is trying to make a point.
But come to think of it, after Brexitating takes place, then the EU won’t even need any English.
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Greenpeace are on it….
https://youtu.be/R5l8iUNbLrI
Maybe he thinks we in the Non-European world come from another planet 🙂
OT…but terrible news in Dallas with the shooting of 10 police officers at the end of a protest rally over the deaths of two black men last night. Those shootings were certainly questionable, but this action in Dallas is so far over the top. This could put the US on the verge of a race war.
Four of the officers are dead.
Hey, Goldminor, thanks for the heads up. Just watched Fox News. So sad. Hopefully, only (only…) 3 are dead, not 4. 2 possible suspects are in police custody (one just a “person of interest” who turned himself in; the other captured after exchanging fire with officers).
And, no, I do not think this will start a race war. If I had to guess, I’d say 95% (or more) of the black American population utterly condemns this and so, it is actually US (as in the entire U.S.) against a few wicked people.
Jamal (the witness Fox spoke with) said that the protest wasn’t about “getting the police,” but, rather, about working WITH police to prevent tragedies (like the ones in, Louisiana and Minnesota, per reporter — I don’t know details of those incidents, so not sure if they were “bad” acts by police officers or, just tragedies, or justified homocides given the circumstances at the time).
Not trying to thread-jack — just wanted to acknowledge — I heard you, goldminor.
Time for PRAYER.
What is praying going to achieve ?
If prayers ‘worked’, why did you not pray for such events not to take place in the first instance.
Five dead, this won’t start a race war it will start the coming together and help end some of the balkinization that the left keeps pushing on us. The protests were peaceful all across the country this act was someone trying to incite but it’s on tv you see the dead policeman laying in the street no one can see that and not be sickened.
I hope this doesn’t escalate, but I am reading some disturbing information regarding one of the shootings which supposedly set off the gunman. That story does not add up.
Well, Melvyn Dackombe, you’ll have to ask God.
All I know is: “You have not because you ask not” (James 4:2). So, I pray. Sometimes, God’s answer is, “No.” God is, after all, God.
Re: “Why?” Usually, God does not answer that question. Usually, God, given our capacity to comprehend such a Mind, is simply too deep to explain Himself.**
How can I pray to such a God as would allow wickedness such as H. Clinton’s v. a v. Benghazi (imo, her and rest of the Obama administration’s reckless-at-best acts killed Ambassador Stevens, and his 3 would-be rescuers)? Only — ONLY — because that same God gave His only son to die (on a cross!) so that I can have eternal life.
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**or Herself — “God” in Hebrew and Greek is neuter, so we may use either pronoun or “which” (as in “Our Abba which art in heaven …” — Note: “Abba” need not be translated “Father” but could be translated “Mother”); being a Person, God is, thus, both “male” and “female” and more…).
P.S. To: Mr. Dackombe
I highly doubt that you were sincerely asking me this, but, since your question technically asks this, I will tell you that I prayed for healing of the injured, for comfort for family and friends, and for peace to settle down upon the cities of the United States, among other things. Because God can do anything, I asked.
OT…but terrible news in Dallas…
Another democrat diversion to take the news off Hillary….
…happens every time
I don’t speak French, but I do speak alcoholism. That could have been the language he spoke–
sounded close to me.
In vino veritash.
;>)))
Dicunt Caesares bellici
Vini Veni Vidi Vici
In wine there is truth
In beer there is strength
In water there is bacteria
Veni, vidi, mortus est.
*mortuus, at least according to Google translate.
Well if the water has bacteria in it, it must be rain water so perfectly fine to drink. In California, we could use all the bacteria nucleated rain drops we can get.
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Those other alcoholisms just sterilize so could leave us with H. Pylori, so stick to water.
Bob Brown was greens leader in Australia for years before he retired. He also believed in aliens. He said that they had been trying to contact us. FELLOW Earthians,” asks Greens leader Bob Brown, “Why aren’t the intergalactic phones ringing?”
He believed they might have extincted themselves.
So it might be a theme of the One World Greens.
The man who, almost single handed, shut down almost all industry making thousands unemployed in Tasmania. And what were voters more worried about in Tasmania? Jobs!
There was a Canadian keader who regularly said he was in touch with aliens on a galactic council. Cannot find the video right now, but he was quite explicit.
Not sure where we get these leaders from. Perhaps the galactic council chooses them…. 😉
French Canadian no doubt.
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What does this have to do with climate. Jucker may at times be clownish but is wuwt is recently moving too close to some uk tabloids. The EU has many faults but the main force within the EU for greenery has traditionally been … the UK.
England may have many faults, but English IS the Universal language, as anyone who has watched an episode of Star Trek can testify to!
I stopped talking to myself in English.
It is at least labeled “Ridiculae”. It’s something that the author found amusing that he thought we could have some fun with.
Though I have to agree, too much of this sort of thing degrades the entire website.
*Since we’re discussing personal “equations”, I’ll give one of my own;
The likelihood of faked contact with critters from other star systems (in order to facilitate the establishment of technocratic authoritarian “world” Government, let’s say ; ) goes up in direct proportion to the failure of any attempt to sell a faked climate crisis (in order to facilitate the establishment of technocratic authoritarian “world” Government, ) to intelligent beings on any given planet ; ) *
Me, here, two months ago. Don’t take this matter lightly, I suggest.
Of course I could be wrong, but . . I sort of “saw” this coming, and I laid down a trail I can pretty easily trace back now . .
Me, here, ~3 months ago;
*From the featured blurb;
“In an unprecedented boost for interstellar travel …”
If the (as I see it) climate con falls apart, in terms of leading to a “global government” some hyper-wealthy psychopaths can control the world through, they will attempt another con, it seems to me. I suspect an “alien invasion” con is one contingency, and that will require some way to shut up the educated folks who know damn well interstellar travel is virtually impossible.*
~5 months ago;
JohnKnight –
So, I wonder, what’s to stop the folks who (to my mind) tried to use the CAGW crisis to set up a global Government under their control, from faking “contact” with ET’s and using that crisis to get what they want . . It appears not much . .
Eric Worrall –
They would have to produce evidence, if they had claimed to have contacted ET.
JohnKnight –
Sure . . but I have no way of effectively disputing faked evidence of contact . . and I doubt anyone else does either. *
And then I see this post . . here, now. Just sayin’ . . Of course I can’t be sure it’s what I saw the potential for, but it sure seems familiar to me . . and I can prove it ; )
If someone wants me to believe they have been in contact with ET, they need to show me some compelling examples of advanced alien technology.
Eric,
Well, perhaps there exist advanced human technologies we have not been made privy to yet, and there’s also the question of how we are shown such things . . I mean there could be a small projectile sent into a huge building that subsequently collapsed at near free fall speed in it’s own footprint or some such display, but how would we actually know the small projectiles themselves had such amazing powers? . . ; )
Thing is, we are not the ones that would need to be convinced anyway, for such a deception to be successful, I don’t believe . . It would merely need to be plausible enough to justify big orders from big people that the military/police forces would obey.
J-C Juncker just confirmrd what has been increasingly apparent…. that many of our ‘leaders’ are indeed from another planet ! ??
I sort of hate to say it, but….alien, reptilian shapeshifters might be more plausible than some of what the Crazy Climate Cultists have been claiming. They would also help explain the apparent inability to understand human nature some of the “elite” exhibit.
I think this is /sarc, but I’m not sure.
Ah! You’re in David Icke territory here. J-C Drunker is an amateur compared to him.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/674711/David-Icke-claims-the-moon-is-HOLLOW-and-built-by-ALIENS-in-crazy-new-theory
(Yes, I know it’s from the Daily Express but, even so …)
You need to understand the incentives/bribery for being in the EU System, especially the EU Commission. Apologies to the European denizens. The EU Commission is an appointed unelected and unaccountable body. There are Direct Generals who run the EU who have total control. The EU Parliament are th e court eunuchs who have absolutely no power. They can rubber stamp directives from the commission but cannot over turn them. For their obedience they have a huge untaxable salary, they have life time education for their families, huge stipends to live in Europe and expense accounts. It is the best welfare job you can have with no deliverables. Junker is just another alcoholic who doals out the jobs and goodies to be distributed by the Director Generals. Failed politicians in their home countries jump through hoops to be part of this gravy train that is killing the EU. For every one bureaucratic opening there are thousands of applications across Europe. For anyone going to Brussels please go to the square in front of the commission HQ and see the young and old bureaucrat out at their stool by 3pm drinking. This is the vision ofObama, Hillary and Bernie for the USA.
They are directors general, not direct generals nor director generals.
They do not have total control. The European Parliament does have power (albeit not enough).
This bloke has to lay off the piss.
I imagine we are not the only inhabitants of this galaxy….
The question is, Is he telling the truth about the Alien agenda…
I speak French. I confirm. He said very clearly “leaders of other planets”. But it seems very clear to me that this is a mere lapsus. Oh wait, a lapsus says a lot on the man…
He can’t be Sirius,…..
Oh I doubt Sirius would be involved, that’s not their style. I imagine it’d be a Shammat job.
I think he’ll need to be probed on those comments.
Funniest comment of the thread.
I doubt they will know which end is which!
There are more than one species of of aliens here. Some are not so nice and have been using and interfering in human affairs for their own personal gain. From the Hindu bible to the Judo Christian bible and Quran are full of references to other worldly beings. I see this climate change agenda as a vehicle as a way for them to exert their will and end our/your self determination and subjugation to acquire rare earth are precious metals and possibly more. There are recorded battles seen between various groups. They might not have known exactly what was going on, but the record of those events are record in the the best and truthful manner as they could understand it. The very best ones heal people and and give people they think are deserving of opportunities for development though insight and instruction for the betterment of us all.
Before WW II there was no central way of recording UFO ‘s. It became imperative that reporting of objects became necessary as to know whether the enemy had developed more sophisticated weapons, indeed the Germans had developed jet air craft towards the end of the war. Nobody was standing in Hawaii counting the the number and type of planes before Pearl Harbour. And there was nobody to collect that information either, from pilots to ground observers. The term foo fighters weren’t a figment of trained pilots imagination.
There are people who are not quite alright and cast suspicion on those that report truthfully what they have seen and experienced, and others who purposely do so as to cast doubt that that they don’t exist to hide the fact that they do so,so they can continue to achieve their agenda with out most humans being aware that those policies that they pursue only benefit those aliens.
I would site that in 1962/ 63 in World Weekly ( yes it’s is a trash newspaper ) , but in this case I think they actually published something that was true, that first I recognize that the aliens described by Betty Hill as having no noses, ears or mouths was a space suit. Only later were drawings made with noses, ears, and mouths. The first rule of interplanetary contact is that a a biological could easily kill off all of us or them. Its a space suit or hazard mat. Seen the pictures of people covered up in dealing with people infected with ebola? And the second thing is that the depiction of amino sentisis, nobody on this planet could have done at that time. The technology nor the idea existed at that time. It was only the very early beginning to understand that DNA was a double helix. Let alone examining the DNA itseslf. The picture of the where they inserted the needle on her stomach and the description of the tools involved are consistent with what we use now.
I can only assume that they were curious about a mixed race baby since Betty reported that she could talk to them telepathically while her husband was frozen in fear, that was the mixed, not the color of their being. Some people have the ability to be telepathic and others are not.
… a little more martially robust than the older Judeo-Christian bible.
commieBob
Trust you to throw that in (:-))
Jeez Bob, eeeeeeeee I missed an eee
Sorry folks, I-pun.
“From the Hindu bible to the Judo Christian bible and Quran are full of references to other worldly beings.”
This is why those books should be on the science/séance fiction shelves.
saveenergy – Agreed. Imaginary friends are ALWAYS make-believe.
Amen..err.. Agreed!
Well some things are or maybe historically accurate like Adams Bridge, which omg is under water due to slr. Of course nobody knows whether there was somebody with 10 heads or monkey men.
other-wordly isn’t from-another-planet (except to Mormons). And *what* Hindu bible? “scholars hesitate in defining the term “Hindu scripture” given the diverse nature of Hinduism.” (Wikipedia.) This is as daft as the claim that the word for God is neuter in a language (Hebrew) that doesn’t *have* a neuter gender or that “Abba” (from Aramaic) can be translated as “Mother”. I did hope that WUWT readers would do some easy fact-checking.
Rishrac, can you publish the recipe for whatever you are drinking. It is obviously much more potent that anything that can be bought off the shelf.
And most of the world’s populations have no problem believing it either. In fact, we build all kinds of buildings attesting to the fact. The mind is a wonderful thing… now repeat after me… you do believe, don’t you. That’s the recipe.
Well, I have an open mind about most things, but not so open that my brains fall out.
I’m sorry, but Poe’s law is coming in strong here. I truly cannot tell if you are being facetious or serious. I would suggest that you check yourself into either a publishing house or a mental institution respectively.
Both, serious and facetious, I understand the lack of hard physical evidece. I do publish from time to time. It’s ok to believe heavenly beings came down on wings, didn’t say fixed or not, but not that there are other beings among the literally billions of stars?
@ rishrac, I was a firm non believer until my partner and I saw something that there absolutely was no explanation for ( we live near an airport and have seen just about everything that can fly). Unless humans have aircraft that can hover without a sound 300 feet above us with no wings, rotors or such things and can disappear almost instantly. We now both believe it was non human.
I don’t think advanced aliens who saw us as an “impediment” to their plans would need to exert their will. They wouldn’t even need to fight us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwfly_Solution
Not necessarily. How do you think they get us to work for them for free? Of course they don’t need to fight us. They just play with our intellectual deficiencies.
Really , Aliens now , we may as well admit were wrong put on tin foil hats and sing kumbah yah .
Do the leaders of these other planets have a 97% consensus?
I don’t believe in space aliens but I do believe in space cadets — and we have too many of those. — Eugene WR Gallun
Eugene,
Why, there goes another one now:
http://moonbattery.com/graphics/Dr-Smith_Christiana-Figueres.jpg
Guess which one is the alien! You get three guesses…
And the first two don’t count?
Oh the pain.
Looks a lot like Spock too.
She looks more like T’Pau.
Yes. She is T’Pau.
Does anyone NEED three guesses?
Perhaps that tipple includes the CO2 sparkle of a fine French white. Is Juncker just another “bubble-headed booby”?
I doubt very much the Galactic Council would want to talk to this clown. Maybe he’s been talking to the Dracos, or Shammat of Puttoria. They must be getting rattled. Oh for the Eschaton! And I don’t mean the Enfield Tennis Academy version.
He should ask them about the weather out there.
I simply cannot believe that an alien race advanced enough to watch us would favor a socialist, tyrannical system like the EU. They’re too intelligent. Unless they intend to enslave us, which means the X-Files was right all along. Maybe we’really doomed for reasons we are not yet aware?
Probably a lame attempt at a joke
It is pretty clear that the case again CO2 is just made up from thin air.
The “aliens are worried” is just more invented nonsense from people who are used to spouting invented nonsense.
The aliens may be worried, and CO2 may be increasing, but correlation isn’t causation. Their favorite show might have been cancelled. “My favorite Martian” was cancelled in 1966 so that means the aliens live about 50 light years away.
When studies show the greatest yield increases of crops like soybeans are happening at the equator, the claim that CO2 and warmth are anything but massively beneficial would appear to be an outright lie.
Once the RICO 20 run for the hills we must bring charges against the green fraudsters.
They’ve seen Star Trek so they think we have FTL. That’s why they’re worried now that they know Juncker has an important job.
Perhaps they have also seen Galaxy Quest
Well understanding what someone says sometimes is difficult. Look at what the dictionary says:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/be-on-another-planet
BE ON ANOTHER PLANET
informal
[meaning ]
‘to not give attention to what is happening around you and to think differently from other people:
Some days that girl seems as if she’s on another planet.’
When I listen to the video in this article https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5JoQT7XhW0 I hear Juncker end up with “Il faut rassurer et les Europeens et ceux qui nous observant de loin.” As I translate “et les Europeens et ceux qui nous observant de loin” he is speaking about Europeans and about people who are lving far from Europe: “both Europeans and those who are observing us from far away.”
For me it is clear that he (Juncker) wants people to live in reality and not dreaming as living ‘on another planet’. His reality is that people in Europe need to unify because we (Europeans) know what history gave us when we were opposing each other in Europe instead of trying to find common interests. To be clear: we got war and war, misery and poorness.
Who is misinterpreting words and is getting words out of their context could be making the same mistake alarmists make: floating on emotions and loosing contact with reality. In this way you start yourself ‘living on another planet’. Dangerous. We mustn’t make that mistake on this website.
Your comment, and many others I have read, make me wonder how it is that Europeans lack so much self control that if not ruled by some authority will produce “war and war, misery and poorness”.
Especially when governments have been responsible for huge amounts of war and war misery and poorness.
Wars you can find (nearly) everywhere. Populist leaders can use any difference to create tensions. Europe is very diverse. Traveling 250 kilometers to the east, south or west makes that I don’t only must speak Dutch, but also German, French and English. Passing a frontier shows a different world. But a different world doesn’t mean different interests. Although that is sometimes difficult to see – education helps. Yes, we need wise people. At least people who make the right choices when reality is complicated.
Yes, tyrannies have rarely been established without the (at least initial) will of the people (usually motivated by fear), or the firm belief of the tyrants that it is ‘for their own good’.
The simplest explanation is that Mr Juncker used the word “planete” intentionally ghe first time, but unintentionally the second time when he intended to say “pays” (countries).
If you want to check what he said, you should use the Epic browser which allows downloading of Youtube videos and the run the video in slow motion. I used the VLC player.
No question at all, Mr Juncker said that he had spoken to the leaders of other planets. A little reactive “frisson” can be heard background immediately. he said it.
But he did not mean to say “dirigeants d’autres planètes”. he meant to say “dirigeants d’autres pays”.
Mr Juncker is a very sane and civil fellow, apart from his misguided allegiance to the idea of a superstate for Europe.
Actually, he meant to say “Many other leaders of the planet. ..”.
That would be logical.
So Mr. Juncker, do you think Klingon babes are hot, or not?
Mr Juncker is a very sane and civil fellow, apart from his misguided allegiance to the idea of a superstate for Europe.
Not from where I’m sitting !
Exactly AJB. In your first link it states
“It was passed by the House of Commons on 8 September, and its second reading debate in the House of Lords took place on 13 October.”
So, I think that it should be abrogated by the parliament, or what the parliament introduces, only parliament should be able to abolish.
Whatever the final Brexit outcome, economic successes I would celebrate, economic failure I would regret, it will make difference but to me personally not a profound one.
It appears, but you may not agree, it is a bit unfair that the decision taken by majority of people of my age and above, the younger generations may not be able to reverse for many years to come, if they wish to do so. Governments may change every few years, but this one is one in a generation vote.
So how referendum could be organised to be fair to all generations young and old?
Not that I expect that you might agree
One vote worth points = sq. root (average life expectancy – voter’s age).
Now the decision has been made, for better (I hope) or for worse (hopefully not) we have to accept it.
I suppose Brexit means lot to you, perhaps being British by birth, which I am not. As a young man in the mid 1970s I swore “to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her Heirs and Successors according to law”, meaning respecting decisions taken by HM’s government.
Thanks for your comments, it was interesting to hear yet another opinion.
You’re welcome. Doesn’t mean as much to me as some others’ troughs it seems. But September 9th is still some way off. Plenty more intrigue and skulduggery to come no doubt.
Even failed employee can ask hard questions of a dodgy practices ex-boss.
One, among many consequences of Brexit may well be that the low paid, those with substandard education on unemployment or supplementary benefits, those with investment income pensions, those in need of hospitalising, etc, i.e. precisely those who were the core of the protest vote, will be affected the most.
Our American friends may well recognise this quote:
“Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“
“Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely.
52% of those who chose to exercise their vote did choose wisely. They chose democracy and freedom over the alien concepts of a continent in the thrall of yet another German hegemony.
Hi Roger
I suppose you could be well off and need not concern yourself with the plight of others.
So who did the poor, unemployed, those on benefits, disabled and those depending on the NHS have ended up as a leader to promote their hopes and save them from the EU tyrants.
It is more than ironic that it is a sweet talking ex banker, from the same banking megalomaniac companies who plunged world economies into recession, sold inflated mortgages to people who could not afford them, bankers who created and then promoted austerity, bankers who fiddled the libor rate. It is the person who only two years ago thought that Brexit would be a disaster, but now thinks the Brexit it is the best thing since sliced bread, someone who say she will repeal workers protection laws, someone who promotes rescinding of maternity leave rights.
As it happens, I personally and some of my family are already financially benefiting from British currency devaluation, having assets and income in US$ and euros, but my sympathy is with those less fortunate.
I wasn’t aware the election of a new Conservative Party leader had finished yet. House price bubble in London looking shaky, is it Vuk? Maybe first time buyers will benefit.
AJB hi again. No indeed it hasn’t, but the other candidate for the PM apparently is of the view that the people have not ‘chosen wisely’, and she isn’t exactly middle of the road conservative.
There is a danger that if the ex-banker is the new pm both the government side and the opposition will have leaders not supported by majority of their own MPs.
Either way, economic or political upheaval (or both) are almost inevitable, since there are hundreds of laws and parliamentary acts that need to be repelled and replaced by the new British acts, that will take years and years. Not to mention that all 27 EU members have to agree to whatever trade etc relationship is negotiated, and there always will be someone who will object that it is given away too much.
Referendum was to return sovereignty to British parliament, a noble idea, but the parliamentarians were bound as a representatives of the people to make that decision on behalf of people. British tradition is in representative democracy and it should have been upheld not abandoned!
I’d respectfully suggest you have a read of this and this before you presume to know what British tradition demands.
hy AJB
I posted my last comment in a wrong place. it is here
Astounding arrogance; the reason we had a referendum in the first place. Who are the arbiters of wisdom, those who seek to subvert? Put in the backdrop for context. The UK signed up to a trading arrangement, not political subjugation.
AJB:
It was Franklin D. Roosevelt who said “Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“
Astounding arrogance, perhaps but I suppose he knew a bit more about democracy than I do since I was not born into it.
“AJB July 8, 2016 at 3:56 am
The UK signed up to a trading arrangement, not political subjugation.”
No, the UK did not sign up for the “trading agreement” Jan 1st 1973. That was a dictatorial decision made by Ted Heath with out a mandate. There was a referendum held in Feb 1975, over 2 years after entry in to the Common Market, and people did vote to stay. The common market has morphed since then. AJB, your history is lacking.
Irony or comedy of errors ?
Exactly in one year time on the 1st of July 2017 , the United Kingdom is due to take the presidency of the EU Council.
The presidency rotates among the EU member states every 6 months. During this 6-month period, the presidency chairs meetings at every level in the Council, helping to ensure the continuity of the EU’s work in the Council.
Can’t wait.
The arrogance is in the first paragraph, not Roosevelt’s words.
1975 Referendum Question: DO YOU THINK THE UNITED KINGDOM SHOULD STAY IN THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY (THE COMMON MARKET)?
It has indeed ‘morphed’ as you euphemistically put it. By subversive means (just to highlight one vehicle of indoctrination).
Here you go Patrick …
You are permitted to spit feathers.
BBC shape-shifters deliberately conflating EEC (now EU) with Europe and setting up the anti-EU = racist slack-jawed yokel attack line. Speaking of ‘spitting feathers’ note Jeremy Thorpe at the airport near the beginning.
Vukcevic , you are concerned that the most disadvantaged in UK will be those most affected by Brexit . Your concern does you credit but I think may arise from a misunderstanding of contemporary UK society .
It is generally accepted that the immigration question was a major component of the decision and the arrival of 3 million incomers into a society whose welfare system was already under stress and into a country with a massive debt impacted most those with the greatest demands on the system .
The poor and vulnerable voted in protest not DESPITE being relatively less advantaged than the rich metropolitan elite , but BECAUSE they are poor and vulnerable and the vote seemed to be the only way to affect what appears to be a rapidly deteriorating situation, a situation of which no one in Westminster or Brussels was taking a blind bit of notice.
They are now.
My comment above was in response to democracy, but mikewaite puts my words into the brexit context.
As to the new Tory leader whoever she might be, their is an expectation in the land that full fat brexit be achieved and we will accept nothing less.
vukcevic,
“It appears, but you may not agree, it is a bit unfair that the decision taken by majority of people of my age and above, the younger generations may not be able to reverse for many years to come, if they wish to do so.”
Your thinking is confusing to me . . Why on earth ought “the younger generations” be able to reverse anything, if they cannot muster the votes (by those of all generations) to do so?
” “Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“ ”
Don’t you think education requires time? Don’t you think you are more educated than when you were among those “younger generations” . . and therefore your vote is part of that safeguarding of democracy? Humans are not born wise . . right?
And does Government control “Education”?
The more Government becomes involved in what is taught, the more it becomes “Indoctrination” rather than “Education”.
To paraphrase Joe Friday, “Just the facts. I’ll figure out the rest.”
Hi Mr Knight
European Union enables people to go and work in any of 28 countries anywhere within Union without obtaining work permit and guaranteeing equal status with local population. Normally 50+ years old have very little inclination to do that for many simple reasons, but many have done it in the earlier decades.
However younger generations singles or couples do not have so many ties to a particular place and have been taking advantage in the large numbers, of the ability to do .
Most of young people in the UK voted in large proportion (up to 70%) to stay, hence there is a bitter filling that part of their freedom has been curtailed, freedom that their parents enjoyed for decades, but now they do not need it they’ve taken away from the young.
Let’s face it: A vote to leave, while UK is in, can be taken every year if you wish, but once the UK is out, you can vote to rejoin as much as you like, even with 99% majority, but that doesn’t mean that the other 27 will let the UK back in ever again (each member has veto), considering number of times UK ‘sabotaged’ many EU proposed regulations, etc.
UK was not founding, always a reluctant not an enthusiastic member of the club. France and some others will be pretty pleased to get shot of the UK. Since the UK’s worth is measured in £ converted to $, and £ suddenly dropped to 30 year low, French were very quick to celebrate that they (not the UK any more) are now the world’s 5th largest economy, the fact that the Brexit leaders were boasting with just few days earlier.
I hope that gives you clearer idea.
Some other guy’s view for you Vuk … enjoy 🙂
Yep, it is so unfair….
the presenter of that video, myself and many more grumpy 60+ are off to blue beyond in decade or two, and those youngsters have to toil for another 40 to 50 years, to get back to be world’s 5th economy again. French are jubilant that they overtook the UK overnight. Shall we go back to good old days of power-cuts, three day working week etc, when all workers protection guaranteed by the EU are abolished?
Further more, we expect of this young rascals to earn, pay taxes, so I and many old doddering farts can have a dissent pension, free transport and good hospital services.
Democracy my foot.
It was the American citizen called Boris Johnson who took last minute opportunity to have a stab at the current PM and his job, and swayed about 1% of undecided to follow him. It was that the democratic referendums in 1930 got two well known man in power at the time, all referendums should have been outlawed after WWII.
Many old farts voted Tory, knowing Cameron will be a PM, didn’t expect that they may end-up with a failed banker. Mrs May is not exactly saintly mother Teresa of Calcutta (apology for the pun, Murdoch papers are at it already) but she is as good as we can hope under circumstances, for a short term gatekeeper.
“French are jubilant that they overtook the UK overnight.”
Who? Where?
The French I know are either:
– sad because of the economic side effects
– afraid because of the uncertainty
– angry at brexiters
– sad because UK was a protection against socialist policies in EU
– happy because UK will be free and EU is about to explode
“all referendums should have been outlawed after WWII.”
I see, the usual “the people don’t know anything, we should be a super-intelligent leader with its super-intelligent court” theme that leads to group think that caused this mess in the first place.
Hi Mr Knight
It is not matter of mastering of votes, even if they get 99%. UK was not either founding or enthusiast EU member, it took years to get in (succeeded only after general de Gaulle was out of power) and since joining the UK regularly ‘obstructed’ many of the EU proposals.
France and some others are quietly celebrating that they got shot of the UK once for all times, and already are demanding banishing English language from EU proceedings, which currently is in widespread use.
In order to rejoin all 27 members have to agree (they all have individual right of veto) and some would never agree that the UK (considered to be the USA’s stooge) ever again is a full member of the EU.
It is not like case of a general election, get majority and you are in, it is rejoining a club were you are not wanted, it is as simple as that.
I hope that helps understand the above quote.
OTOH, France is a “driving” member and consistently fails to implement or oppose any rule it doesn’t like, even the most fundamental rules of Euro.
Thanks, Vuc, but I already had an understanding of what you explained.
I suggest those who want the UK to stay, begin immediately to “democratize” the EU, and slash the pay of the bureaucrats, as well as cancel “diplomatic immunity” for the Commissioners, and establish a permanent immigration policy that makes it difficult for massive numbers of military age men to just walk on in, set up “no go zones”, and begin living in relative luxury without lifting a finger, etc. etc …
You see, in my eyes the EU is an insane arrangement . . in part I feel BECAUSE I’ve been on the planet long enough to recognize an insane arrangement.
Mr. Knight
Thanks for the advice. I have lived in the EU for the last 40 years of my life, and know pretty well where it started from and how it got to where it is today.
So, what’s your proposed “solution”? Young folks votes count double?
Simple
One vote worth points = sq. root (average life expectancy – voter’s age).
you can do some calculations and ask your much younger relatives for their opinions.
My offspring think it’s great idea, they feel they were hard done by the decision, I am supporting their case all the way.
This type of votes age weighting should be applied in all situations where a decision may be irreversible for generation or longer e.g. expanding cities into environment sensitive areas, etc.
So (assuming you’re not in favor of giving little kids massive voting power), you want people in their late teens to have much more voting power than mature people . . Have you not noticed the tendency for younger folks to be comparatively irresponsible, ignorant, self centered, impulsive, foolish, and very easily influenced by fads, advertising, peer pressure, etc.? . . Most didn’t even bother to vote on the Brexit matter, for goodness sake . .
(I thank God I don’t live in Vukaville ; )
*Measure 129 in Vukaville*
Every person shall be supplied with a motor bike . . and a car (a cool one)
Wiser older generations are happy to start a war or two every few years and then send thousands of ‘irresponsible, ignorant, self cantered, impulsive, foolish” as you call them, young men to their death.
I said comparatively, Vuk, and that’s all I meant.
People shouldn’t get their space suits in a twist, its obvious he meant other leaders on the planet. and the translation has skewed it slightly
“The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“
And we’ve been dumbing down education, particularly critical thinking, for years.
Unfortunately this slip could be a sign of late onset dementia.
What I heard was not a fluent french speaker. Why he chose planet I dont know except to emphasise the world is worried.
French is a difficult language to translate back to English because of its structure.
“French is a difficult language to translate back to English because of its structure.”
Well if most of the world is working with English maybe this becomes less of a problem?
The official language of England was French once.
“English is German after the French got through with it” – one of my school teachers..
Germanic influences too. Where do you think the “Angles” cam from? As well as Latin and pretty much any other language too…esp invaders. We took invaders words and then said “Thanks! Now Foxtrot Oscar! Or we will see you off our shores.”
He should have said this in GERMAN!
As a typical Luxembourger, he would have gone from:
Luxembourgish: mother tongue;
German : primary, if not before;
French : start of secondary, if not before.
Many locals have good Portuguese, Italian. Lingua Franca now changing from French to English, at least in the city.
JC-J does not make linguistic mistakes. Shome other explanashian, shurely.
French and English are structurally far more similar than you would expect them to be. In this case there seems to be no particular difficulty in translation.
“French is a difficult language to translate back to English because of its structure.”
What’s the issue with the structure?
Al Gore did say that global warming was causing an energy imbalance with the rest of the universe. These blokes are on to it.
Is that why CNN wondered whether climate change was attracting more asteroids toward the Earth. Even asteroids like warmer?
According to the French ministry of the environnement (and mother of François Hollande’s children), 67P/Tchourioumov-Guérassimenko avoided climate change.
What me worry? The earth is slated for demolition for an interstellar highway according to Douglas Adams, the extraterrestrial expert. If you see a bunch of Vogon spaceships leaving the earth, you are welcome to join me at the restaurant – a little red wine, a gorgeous woman and a spectacular view of the universe collapsing. Good times, good times.
But only if you’ve done 6 impossible things before breakfast.
Surely believed six impossible things?
“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
Also tellingly:
“Speak in French when you can’t think of the English for a thing—turn out your toes when you walk—and remember who you are!”
Leo
“Sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast” is a quote by the Red Queen from Alice Through The Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll. Douglas Adams (probably deliberately) misquoted this when he came up with the slogan “If you’ve done 6 impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe”, an advertising slogan devised by the advertising executives from the star system of Bastablon.
I apologise for the slight error in my quote above.
This was a slip of the tongue, but one can’t help but wonder. Brexit UK will take control of its own energy policy and the climate consensus may collapse.
Look at the facts. The leaders of humanity are pursuing an obviously damaging and possibly suicidal energy policy, a policy which will starve billions, will reduce us all to poverty and which means our descendants will forever be tied to a life of grinding toil just to feed themselves. Industrial civilisation will fail. Science is being subverted and data manipulated in the most blatant way, and yet those who should speak out are strangely silent.
[looks round furtively, lowers voice] It’s the lizard shapeshifters, those who rule us and whose rule we of course welcome. They can only breathe the Earth’s atmosphere with low levels of CO2 and are most comfortable at 350 ppm. Look at Bill McKibben, founder of 350.org, does he look entirely human to you? I’m sure there are others. Look at M….
Hang on, there’s someone at the door. Back in a sec….
Of course! [slaps forehead] It’s always those dang lizard shapeshifters!
Hang on, there’s someone at the door. Back in a sec….
Nah! It’s not lizards! It’s these guys!
Julian Flood! (((!!!))) If you can access the internet, just type “J” and we will know you are in trouble. Add your coordinates and we will send help!!!
As we used to say in Australia pre-PC, Juncker is often as full as a state school. God help the planète if he and the Hill get round to cracking a bottle together.
“leaders of other planets are worried about the direction Europe will take, in the wake of the Brexit vote.”
this is why there was a Brexit
the bureaucrats don’t get it
because they ARE it
He’s not known as Jean-Claude Druncker for nothing.
Jean-Claude Juncker must throw the most interesting parties. Another reason the elites keep us riffraff out.
Well, my french is pretty good, and I can tell you that both the context and the wording leaves no doubt that he really meant aliens from another planet. His straight face and lack of humorous expression also indicates he’s not joking.
This leaves me to conclude that there are two possibilities :
1- He genuinely believes that aliens exist and are in contact with us (and with himself in particular )
2- He’s trying to pique the interest of youth with some green fairytale.
Third possibility: Brandy for breakfast.
Many years ago early on a foggy Dember morning in northern France I stopped at a cafe for breakfast. There were three people at the bar drinking brandy, a farmer and two Gendarmes. Those were the days (although the traffic accident statistics were frightening)!
Oops, brandy for tea, December of course.
I think wee need Sasquatch’s opinion on the matter.
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2wnd5yv.jpg
Klaatu barada nikto.
“Nikto”?
Does that mean they want a cigarette or they’re trying to quit?
Does this mean we have an even greater base for trading.
If so I am glad we Brexit,
As it would take the EU at least A few years to get a trading agreement.
Well, at least he didn’t say an island would tip over if too many people were on it.
Klaatu barada nikto! Klaatu barada nikto!
Thanks.
Catastrophe averted.
That was close.
I’m pretty sure he’s off the planet.
So I guess anyone outside the EU sphere is on an alien, other world. Send a probe and Jerry Brown.
From the IPCC7 report:
“Our expanded models of the universe indicate alien beings exist and, being more evolved, are more green than we are (possibly in more ways than one).
“Hence, ‘the science tells us’ the entire intelligible universe opposes Earth’s climate deniers.
“And, to a 95% certainty, vote Democrat.
How many times have you had to ask a liberal “Greenie”, spouting their “Unprecedented” B.S. …..”Hey ! What planet are you living on ?”
Well there you go !
Translation: Obama spoke to Junker over the phone and said he is worried.
He, of course is wrong. Leaders of other planets couldn’t care less about what effects Brexit might have on the EU. That is just classic psychological projection on his part.
Leaders of other planets probably believe Juncker is an anti-hero character and the EU parliament is comedy show.
Must have been watching too much Star Trek.
The alien leaders from other planets are probably worried about their financial portfolios.
Juncker was trying to make a joke. It is pretty obvious when watching the video. It was a bad attempt. Poor man.
And natives are worried about anti-native policies. The mass exodus from illegal progressive war zones is physical evidence of catastrophic global consequences with a first-order cause of anthropogenic government whoring.
You mock, but James Carville eats mice. True story.
He and his wife both appear a bit alienish. Given the mice thing … how could you argue against? I’m sold 🙂
Earth to Jean-Claude Juncker… Earth toe Jean-Claude Juncker…
I think Jean-Claude Junkscience’s speech was just a desperate attempt to associate himself with the Inter Planetary College of Catastrophists (IPCC), and thus with the incredible prestige of the Nobel Peace Prize.
With the impending dissolution of EU, he may be angling for a starring role in the next Independence Day sequel
He was talking to his advisors down at “Planet Fitness” (he picks things up and puts them down).
Bro, do you even uplift? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uplift_(science_fiction)
Maybe he was just referring to Boris Johnson, who really does live on another planet.
Nanu nanu. Live long and prosper.
Mr Juncker may support Luxembourg’s wine industry a little too enthusiastically for his own, and Europe’s, good. He referred to the leaders of other planets. It’s quite likely that he had been talking to them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2664738/A-drunk-cognac-breakfast-EU-presidency-favourite-faces-explosive-claims-Cameron-prepares-showdown-Merkel-stop-taking-job.html
sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
noun: sarcasm; plural noun: sarcasms
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
“his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment”
synonyms: derision, mockery, ridicule, scorn, sneering, scoffing; irony;
cynicism
Just noticed how orange certain leaders and ex-leaders look on TV? Obummer, Blair and Cameron all look like they’ve been Tangoed. However, Brexit necessitated a prolonged meeting with the Galactic Government Ambassador to Earth, to explain why the plan for a one-government planet was failing. These beings are highly radio-active and the Earth delegates got a bit too much of an overdose. They will all soon be seen wearing wigs.
All Brexiters fall under No. 11 bus
correction No.9 bus
https://youtu.be/JgF_pz9WRIU