Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Its not just Greens who are worried about Europe – the President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker stated in a speech that leaders of other planets are worried about the direction Europe will take, in the wake of the Brexit vote.
Did EU chief confirm aliens EXIST? Juncker ‘speaks of BREXIT to leaders of other planets’
ALIEN conspiracy theorists were sent into overdrive after European Commission president Jean Claude Juncker appeared to say he had “heard from the leaders of other planets”.
Clips of the EU big wig speaking in a Brexit debate are going viral online, after he was heard to say aliens were worried about the looming Brexit by the UK from the union.
He said, translated from French: “You need to know that those who observe us from afar are worried.
“I have have seen, listened and heard many leaders of other planets and they are very worried because they wonder about the course the EU will follow.
“So we have to reassure both the Europeans and those who observe us from afar.”
Here is a youtube of the alleged “alien” speech:
I don’t speak French, but according to Google Translate, the phrase “leaders of other planets” in French is “dirigeants d’autres planètes”, which sounds awfully like the phrase Mr. Juncker uttered.
While it might be funny to consider the possibility the head of the über green European Union receives instruction from other planets, the more likely mundane explanation is that it was a slip of the antenna. Rumours have abounded for a while that Mr Juncker is fond of the odd tipple before public events – perhaps he simply over indulged a little more than usual, before making the “alien” speech.
Probably a lame attempt at a joke
It is pretty clear that the case again CO2 is just made up from thin air.
The “aliens are worried” is just more invented nonsense from people who are used to spouting invented nonsense.
The aliens may be worried, and CO2 may be increasing, but correlation isn’t causation. Their favorite show might have been cancelled. “My favorite Martian” was cancelled in 1966 so that means the aliens live about 50 light years away.
When studies show the greatest yield increases of crops like soybeans are happening at the equator, the claim that CO2 and warmth are anything but massively beneficial would appear to be an outright lie.
Once the RICO 20 run for the hills we must bring charges against the green fraudsters.
They’ve seen Star Trek so they think we have FTL. That’s why they’re worried now that they know Juncker has an important job.
Perhaps they have also seen Galaxy Quest
Well understanding what someone says sometimes is difficult. Look at what the dictionary says:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/be-on-another-planet
BE ON ANOTHER PLANET
informal
[meaning ]
‘to not give attention to what is happening around you and to think differently from other people:
Some days that girl seems as if she’s on another planet.’
When I listen to the video in this article https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5JoQT7XhW0 I hear Juncker end up with “Il faut rassurer et les Europeens et ceux qui nous observant de loin.” As I translate “et les Europeens et ceux qui nous observant de loin” he is speaking about Europeans and about people who are lving far from Europe: “both Europeans and those who are observing us from far away.”
For me it is clear that he (Juncker) wants people to live in reality and not dreaming as living ‘on another planet’. His reality is that people in Europe need to unify because we (Europeans) know what history gave us when we were opposing each other in Europe instead of trying to find common interests. To be clear: we got war and war, misery and poorness.
Who is misinterpreting words and is getting words out of their context could be making the same mistake alarmists make: floating on emotions and loosing contact with reality. In this way you start yourself ‘living on another planet’. Dangerous. We mustn’t make that mistake on this website.
Your comment, and many others I have read, make me wonder how it is that Europeans lack so much self control that if not ruled by some authority will produce “war and war, misery and poorness”.
Especially when governments have been responsible for huge amounts of war and war misery and poorness.
Wars you can find (nearly) everywhere. Populist leaders can use any difference to create tensions. Europe is very diverse. Traveling 250 kilometers to the east, south or west makes that I don’t only must speak Dutch, but also German, French and English. Passing a frontier shows a different world. But a different world doesn’t mean different interests. Although that is sometimes difficult to see – education helps. Yes, we need wise people. At least people who make the right choices when reality is complicated.
Yes, tyrannies have rarely been established without the (at least initial) will of the people (usually motivated by fear), or the firm belief of the tyrants that it is ‘for their own good’.
The simplest explanation is that Mr Juncker used the word “planete” intentionally ghe first time, but unintentionally the second time when he intended to say “pays” (countries).
If you want to check what he said, you should use the Epic browser which allows downloading of Youtube videos and the run the video in slow motion. I used the VLC player.
No question at all, Mr Juncker said that he had spoken to the leaders of other planets. A little reactive “frisson” can be heard background immediately. he said it.
But he did not mean to say “dirigeants d’autres planètes”. he meant to say “dirigeants d’autres pays”.
Mr Juncker is a very sane and civil fellow, apart from his misguided allegiance to the idea of a superstate for Europe.
Actually, he meant to say “Many other leaders of the planet. ..”.
That would be logical.
So Mr. Juncker, do you think Klingon babes are hot, or not?
Mr Juncker is a very sane and civil fellow, apart from his misguided allegiance to the idea of a superstate for Europe.
Not from where I’m sitting !
Exactly AJB. In your first link it states
“It was passed by the House of Commons on 8 September, and its second reading debate in the House of Lords took place on 13 October.”
So, I think that it should be abrogated by the parliament, or what the parliament introduces, only parliament should be able to abolish.
Whatever the final Brexit outcome, economic successes I would celebrate, economic failure I would regret, it will make difference but to me personally not a profound one.
It appears, but you may not agree, it is a bit unfair that the decision taken by majority of people of my age and above, the younger generations may not be able to reverse for many years to come, if they wish to do so. Governments may change every few years, but this one is one in a generation vote.
So how referendum could be organised to be fair to all generations young and old?
Not that I expect that you might agree
One vote worth points = sq. root (average life expectancy – voter’s age).
Now the decision has been made, for better (I hope) or for worse (hopefully not) we have to accept it.
I suppose Brexit means lot to you, perhaps being British by birth, which I am not. As a young man in the mid 1970s I swore “to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her Heirs and Successors according to law”, meaning respecting decisions taken by HM’s government.
Thanks for your comments, it was interesting to hear yet another opinion.
You’re welcome. Doesn’t mean as much to me as some others’ troughs it seems. But September 9th is still some way off. Plenty more intrigue and skulduggery to come no doubt.
Even failed employee can ask hard questions of a dodgy practices ex-boss.
One, among many consequences of Brexit may well be that the low paid, those with substandard education on unemployment or supplementary benefits, those with investment income pensions, those in need of hospitalising, etc, i.e. precisely those who were the core of the protest vote, will be affected the most.
Our American friends may well recognise this quote:
“Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“
“Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely.
52% of those who chose to exercise their vote did choose wisely. They chose democracy and freedom over the alien concepts of a continent in the thrall of yet another German hegemony.
Hi Roger
I suppose you could be well off and need not concern yourself with the plight of others.
So who did the poor, unemployed, those on benefits, disabled and those depending on the NHS have ended up as a leader to promote their hopes and save them from the EU tyrants.
It is more than ironic that it is a sweet talking ex banker, from the same banking megalomaniac companies who plunged world economies into recession, sold inflated mortgages to people who could not afford them, bankers who created and then promoted austerity, bankers who fiddled the libor rate. It is the person who only two years ago thought that Brexit would be a disaster, but now thinks the Brexit it is the best thing since sliced bread, someone who say she will repeal workers protection laws, someone who promotes rescinding of maternity leave rights.
As it happens, I personally and some of my family are already financially benefiting from British currency devaluation, having assets and income in US$ and euros, but my sympathy is with those less fortunate.
I wasn’t aware the election of a new Conservative Party leader had finished yet. House price bubble in London looking shaky, is it Vuk? Maybe first time buyers will benefit.
AJB hi again. No indeed it hasn’t, but the other candidate for the PM apparently is of the view that the people have not ‘chosen wisely’, and she isn’t exactly middle of the road conservative.
There is a danger that if the ex-banker is the new pm both the government side and the opposition will have leaders not supported by majority of their own MPs.
Either way, economic or political upheaval (or both) are almost inevitable, since there are hundreds of laws and parliamentary acts that need to be repelled and replaced by the new British acts, that will take years and years. Not to mention that all 27 EU members have to agree to whatever trade etc relationship is negotiated, and there always will be someone who will object that it is given away too much.
Referendum was to return sovereignty to British parliament, a noble idea, but the parliamentarians were bound as a representatives of the people to make that decision on behalf of people. British tradition is in representative democracy and it should have been upheld not abandoned!
I’d respectfully suggest you have a read of this and this before you presume to know what British tradition demands.
hy AJB
I posted my last comment in a wrong place. it is here
Astounding arrogance; the reason we had a referendum in the first place. Who are the arbiters of wisdom, those who seek to subvert? Put in the backdrop for context. The UK signed up to a trading arrangement, not political subjugation.
AJB:
It was Franklin D. Roosevelt who said “Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“
Astounding arrogance, perhaps but I suppose he knew a bit more about democracy than I do since I was not born into it.
“AJB July 8, 2016 at 3:56 am
The UK signed up to a trading arrangement, not political subjugation.”
No, the UK did not sign up for the “trading agreement” Jan 1st 1973. That was a dictatorial decision made by Ted Heath with out a mandate. There was a referendum held in Feb 1975, over 2 years after entry in to the Common Market, and people did vote to stay. The common market has morphed since then. AJB, your history is lacking.
Irony or comedy of errors ?
Exactly in one year time on the 1st of July 2017 , the United Kingdom is due to take the presidency of the EU Council.
The presidency rotates among the EU member states every 6 months. During this 6-month period, the presidency chairs meetings at every level in the Council, helping to ensure the continuity of the EU’s work in the Council.
Can’t wait.
The arrogance is in the first paragraph, not Roosevelt’s words.
1975 Referendum Question: DO YOU THINK THE UNITED KINGDOM SHOULD STAY IN THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY (THE COMMON MARKET)?
It has indeed ‘morphed’ as you euphemistically put it. By subversive means (just to highlight one vehicle of indoctrination).
Here you go Patrick …
You are permitted to spit feathers.
BBC shape-shifters deliberately conflating EEC (now EU) with Europe and setting up the anti-EU = racist slack-jawed yokel attack line. Speaking of ‘spitting feathers’ note Jeremy Thorpe at the airport near the beginning.
Vukcevic , you are concerned that the most disadvantaged in UK will be those most affected by Brexit . Your concern does you credit but I think may arise from a misunderstanding of contemporary UK society .
It is generally accepted that the immigration question was a major component of the decision and the arrival of 3 million incomers into a society whose welfare system was already under stress and into a country with a massive debt impacted most those with the greatest demands on the system .
The poor and vulnerable voted in protest not DESPITE being relatively less advantaged than the rich metropolitan elite , but BECAUSE they are poor and vulnerable and the vote seemed to be the only way to affect what appears to be a rapidly deteriorating situation, a situation of which no one in Westminster or Brussels was taking a blind bit of notice.
They are now.
My comment above was in response to democracy, but mikewaite puts my words into the brexit context.
As to the new Tory leader whoever she might be, their is an expectation in the land that full fat brexit be achieved and we will accept nothing less.
vukcevic,
“It appears, but you may not agree, it is a bit unfair that the decision taken by majority of people of my age and above, the younger generations may not be able to reverse for many years to come, if they wish to do so.”
Your thinking is confusing to me . . Why on earth ought “the younger generations” be able to reverse anything, if they cannot muster the votes (by those of all generations) to do so?
” “Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“ ”
Don’t you think education requires time? Don’t you think you are more educated than when you were among those “younger generations” . . and therefore your vote is part of that safeguarding of democracy? Humans are not born wise . . right?
And does Government control “Education”?
The more Government becomes involved in what is taught, the more it becomes “Indoctrination” rather than “Education”.
To paraphrase Joe Friday, “Just the facts. I’ll figure out the rest.”
Hi Mr Knight
European Union enables people to go and work in any of 28 countries anywhere within Union without obtaining work permit and guaranteeing equal status with local population. Normally 50+ years old have very little inclination to do that for many simple reasons, but many have done it in the earlier decades.
However younger generations singles or couples do not have so many ties to a particular place and have been taking advantage in the large numbers, of the ability to do .
Most of young people in the UK voted in large proportion (up to 70%) to stay, hence there is a bitter filling that part of their freedom has been curtailed, freedom that their parents enjoyed for decades, but now they do not need it they’ve taken away from the young.
Let’s face it: A vote to leave, while UK is in, can be taken every year if you wish, but once the UK is out, you can vote to rejoin as much as you like, even with 99% majority, but that doesn’t mean that the other 27 will let the UK back in ever again (each member has veto), considering number of times UK ‘sabotaged’ many EU proposed regulations, etc.
UK was not founding, always a reluctant not an enthusiastic member of the club. France and some others will be pretty pleased to get shot of the UK. Since the UK’s worth is measured in £ converted to $, and £ suddenly dropped to 30 year low, French were very quick to celebrate that they (not the UK any more) are now the world’s 5th largest economy, the fact that the Brexit leaders were boasting with just few days earlier.
I hope that gives you clearer idea.
Some other guy’s view for you Vuk … enjoy 🙂
Yep, it is so unfair….
the presenter of that video, myself and many more grumpy 60+ are off to blue beyond in decade or two, and those youngsters have to toil for another 40 to 50 years, to get back to be world’s 5th economy again. French are jubilant that they overtook the UK overnight. Shall we go back to good old days of power-cuts, three day working week etc, when all workers protection guaranteed by the EU are abolished?
Further more, we expect of this young rascals to earn, pay taxes, so I and many old doddering farts can have a dissent pension, free transport and good hospital services.
Democracy my foot.
It was the American citizen called Boris Johnson who took last minute opportunity to have a stab at the current PM and his job, and swayed about 1% of undecided to follow him. It was that the democratic referendums in 1930 got two well known man in power at the time, all referendums should have been outlawed after WWII.
Many old farts voted Tory, knowing Cameron will be a PM, didn’t expect that they may end-up with a failed banker. Mrs May is not exactly saintly mother Teresa of Calcutta (apology for the pun, Murdoch papers are at it already) but she is as good as we can hope under circumstances, for a short term gatekeeper.
“French are jubilant that they overtook the UK overnight.”
Who? Where?
The French I know are either:
– sad because of the economic side effects
– afraid because of the uncertainty
– angry at brexiters
– sad because UK was a protection against socialist policies in EU
– happy because UK will be free and EU is about to explode
“all referendums should have been outlawed after WWII.”
I see, the usual “the people don’t know anything, we should be a super-intelligent leader with its super-intelligent court” theme that leads to group think that caused this mess in the first place.
Hi Mr Knight
It is not matter of mastering of votes, even if they get 99%. UK was not either founding or enthusiast EU member, it took years to get in (succeeded only after general de Gaulle was out of power) and since joining the UK regularly ‘obstructed’ many of the EU proposals.
France and some others are quietly celebrating that they got shot of the UK once for all times, and already are demanding banishing English language from EU proceedings, which currently is in widespread use.
In order to rejoin all 27 members have to agree (they all have individual right of veto) and some would never agree that the UK (considered to be the USA’s stooge) ever again is a full member of the EU.
It is not like case of a general election, get majority and you are in, it is rejoining a club were you are not wanted, it is as simple as that.
I hope that helps understand the above quote.
OTOH, France is a “driving” member and consistently fails to implement or oppose any rule it doesn’t like, even the most fundamental rules of Euro.
Thanks, Vuc, but I already had an understanding of what you explained.
I suggest those who want the UK to stay, begin immediately to “democratize” the EU, and slash the pay of the bureaucrats, as well as cancel “diplomatic immunity” for the Commissioners, and establish a permanent immigration policy that makes it difficult for massive numbers of military age men to just walk on in, set up “no go zones”, and begin living in relative luxury without lifting a finger, etc. etc …
You see, in my eyes the EU is an insane arrangement . . in part I feel BECAUSE I’ve been on the planet long enough to recognize an insane arrangement.
Mr. Knight
Thanks for the advice. I have lived in the EU for the last 40 years of my life, and know pretty well where it started from and how it got to where it is today.
So, what’s your proposed “solution”? Young folks votes count double?
Simple
One vote worth points = sq. root (average life expectancy – voter’s age).
you can do some calculations and ask your much younger relatives for their opinions.
My offspring think it’s great idea, they feel they were hard done by the decision, I am supporting their case all the way.
This type of votes age weighting should be applied in all situations where a decision may be irreversible for generation or longer e.g. expanding cities into environment sensitive areas, etc.
So (assuming you’re not in favor of giving little kids massive voting power), you want people in their late teens to have much more voting power than mature people . . Have you not noticed the tendency for younger folks to be comparatively irresponsible, ignorant, self centered, impulsive, foolish, and very easily influenced by fads, advertising, peer pressure, etc.? . . Most didn’t even bother to vote on the Brexit matter, for goodness sake . .
(I thank God I don’t live in Vukaville ; )
*Measure 129 in Vukaville*
Every person shall be supplied with a motor bike . . and a car (a cool one)
Wiser older generations are happy to start a war or two every few years and then send thousands of ‘irresponsible, ignorant, self cantered, impulsive, foolish” as you call them, young men to their death.
I said comparatively, Vuk, and that’s all I meant.
People shouldn’t get their space suits in a twist, its obvious he meant other leaders on the planet. and the translation has skewed it slightly
“The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.“
And we’ve been dumbing down education, particularly critical thinking, for years.
Unfortunately this slip could be a sign of late onset dementia.
What I heard was not a fluent french speaker. Why he chose planet I dont know except to emphasise the world is worried.
French is a difficult language to translate back to English because of its structure.
“French is a difficult language to translate back to English because of its structure.”
Well if most of the world is working with English maybe this becomes less of a problem?
The official language of England was French once.
“English is German after the French got through with it” – one of my school teachers..
Germanic influences too. Where do you think the “Angles” cam from? As well as Latin and pretty much any other language too…esp invaders. We took invaders words and then said “Thanks! Now Foxtrot Oscar! Or we will see you off our shores.”
He should have said this in GERMAN!
As a typical Luxembourger, he would have gone from:
Luxembourgish: mother tongue;
German : primary, if not before;
French : start of secondary, if not before.
Many locals have good Portuguese, Italian. Lingua Franca now changing from French to English, at least in the city.
JC-J does not make linguistic mistakes. Shome other explanashian, shurely.
French and English are structurally far more similar than you would expect them to be. In this case there seems to be no particular difficulty in translation.
“French is a difficult language to translate back to English because of its structure.”
What’s the issue with the structure?
Al Gore did say that global warming was causing an energy imbalance with the rest of the universe. These blokes are on to it.
Is that why CNN wondered whether climate change was attracting more asteroids toward the Earth. Even asteroids like warmer?
According to the French ministry of the environnement (and mother of François Hollande’s children), 67P/Tchourioumov-Guérassimenko avoided climate change.
What me worry? The earth is slated for demolition for an interstellar highway according to Douglas Adams, the extraterrestrial expert. If you see a bunch of Vogon spaceships leaving the earth, you are welcome to join me at the restaurant – a little red wine, a gorgeous woman and a spectacular view of the universe collapsing. Good times, good times.
But only if you’ve done 6 impossible things before breakfast.
Surely believed six impossible things?
“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
Also tellingly:
“Speak in French when you can’t think of the English for a thing—turn out your toes when you walk—and remember who you are!”
Leo
“Sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast” is a quote by the Red Queen from Alice Through The Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll. Douglas Adams (probably deliberately) misquoted this when he came up with the slogan “If you’ve done 6 impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe”, an advertising slogan devised by the advertising executives from the star system of Bastablon.
I apologise for the slight error in my quote above.
This was a slip of the tongue, but one can’t help but wonder. Brexit UK will take control of its own energy policy and the climate consensus may collapse.
Look at the facts. The leaders of humanity are pursuing an obviously damaging and possibly suicidal energy policy, a policy which will starve billions, will reduce us all to poverty and which means our descendants will forever be tied to a life of grinding toil just to feed themselves. Industrial civilisation will fail. Science is being subverted and data manipulated in the most blatant way, and yet those who should speak out are strangely silent.
[looks round furtively, lowers voice] It’s the lizard shapeshifters, those who rule us and whose rule we of course welcome. They can only breathe the Earth’s atmosphere with low levels of CO2 and are most comfortable at 350 ppm. Look at Bill McKibben, founder of 350.org, does he look entirely human to you? I’m sure there are others. Look at M….
Hang on, there’s someone at the door. Back in a sec….
Of course! [slaps forehead] It’s always those dang lizard shapeshifters!
Hang on, there’s someone at the door. Back in a sec….
Nah! It’s not lizards! It’s these guys!
Julian Flood! (((!!!))) If you can access the internet, just type “J” and we will know you are in trouble. Add your coordinates and we will send help!!!
As we used to say in Australia pre-PC, Juncker is often as full as a state school. God help the planète if he and the Hill get round to cracking a bottle together.
“leaders of other planets are worried about the direction Europe will take, in the wake of the Brexit vote.”
this is why there was a Brexit
the bureaucrats don’t get it
because they ARE it
He’s not known as Jean-Claude Druncker for nothing.
Jean-Claude Juncker must throw the most interesting parties. Another reason the elites keep us riffraff out.
Well, my french is pretty good, and I can tell you that both the context and the wording leaves no doubt that he really meant aliens from another planet. His straight face and lack of humorous expression also indicates he’s not joking.
This leaves me to conclude that there are two possibilities :
1- He genuinely believes that aliens exist and are in contact with us (and with himself in particular )
2- He’s trying to pique the interest of youth with some green fairytale.
Third possibility: Brandy for breakfast.
Many years ago early on a foggy Dember morning in northern France I stopped at a cafe for breakfast. There were three people at the bar drinking brandy, a farmer and two Gendarmes. Those were the days (although the traffic accident statistics were frightening)!
Oops, brandy for tea, December of course.
I think wee need Sasquatch’s opinion on the matter.
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2wnd5yv.jpg
Klaatu barada nikto.
“Nikto”?
Does that mean they want a cigarette or they’re trying to quit?
Does this mean we have an even greater base for trading.
If so I am glad we Brexit,
As it would take the EU at least A few years to get a trading agreement.
Well, at least he didn’t say an island would tip over if too many people were on it.
Klaatu barada nikto! Klaatu barada nikto!
Thanks.
Catastrophe averted.
That was close.
I’m pretty sure he’s off the planet.