Rural Mass Migration to Cities: Must be Climate Change

China's burgeoning coal power industry
China’s burgeoning coal power industry – without industrial progress, Chinese people would still be starving in their millions.

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Remember history lessons about the Industrial Revolution – about how the rise of city based factory jobs, and more efficient farming practices, caused mass migration from farms to cities?

Now a similar mass migration is occurring in the poorer parts of Africa. But some green charities are doing everything in their power, to stop it from happening.

Zimbabwe: Climate Change Opens Up Migration Floodgates

Two years ago, 35-year-old Bernard Chingawo was a successful small scale tobacco farmer in Mt Darwin, Mashonaland Central.

Now he wakes up early in the morning to buy an assortment of wares from a Chinese shop in Harare for resale.

Still in Mashonaland Central, 41-year-old Titinotenda Chaora, a single mother of one who used to eke out a living from buying tomatoes in Chinhamora communal lands for resale in Bindura town, has none to sell today.

She is considering relocating to Harare.

Sebastian Kasirai, the village head of Murikitiko in Gutu, says people are leaving their homes in droves.

“There is nothing to stop them from leaving the villages, how would they survive if the rains are not falling and there is no food?” he asked rhetorically.

In the Matabeleland region, most people are relocating to neighbouring Botswana and South Africa in search of jobs to fend for their families back home.

There is little research to establish the extent of climate change – induced migration and its impact on rural people. But certainly, the movements will put pressure on already strained urban authorities. Local authorities need to act swiftly to avoid a situation whereby services like water and sewer provisions, demand for power and other essential services overpower them,” Zvigadza added while equating the Zimbabwean situation to that of Europe and America where millions of people are migrating as economic refugee or climate refugees.

Responding to climate change effectively means taking action to reduce the threats and prevent people from moving from their areas.

Oxfam which is also funding projects in the drought-prone Gutu rural, found that engaging local communities in the design and implementation of climate change adaptation activities – for example, creating small scale irrigation schemes, grazing areas – holds considerable potential to reduce migration.

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The point the author misses is migration is often a good thing. I’m not disputing the good intentions of the people and charities who are interfering. But all these poor rural people who have moved to cities, are embracing their new lives voluntarily.

For many people, moving off the farm might even be their only hope of a longer lifespan.

Running a farm with primitive tools is awfully hard work, likely too hard for someone past their prime. In dirt poor rural economies, people who can’t work starve to death – there is very little spare capacity to take care of the elderly and sick. Zimbabweans have a shockingly short life expectancy.

But running an urban street stall, like Bernard Chingawo, is the kind of work which older people who are past their prime can do.

To stand in the way of progress, to try to prevent people from undertaking what in Western experience is a vital step, towards building a modern, wealthy industrial economy, with all the consumerist and health advantages which we take for granted, is simply wrong.

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May 19, 2016 5:21 pm

I think their population has increased about 3 million in the past five years too…

May 19, 2016 5:23 pm

……Why do liberals seem to think they are God, always knowing what is best for everybody else ??

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 5:29 pm

They don’t. They know what’s best for themselves, then they sell it as being better for everyone else.

Reply to  dbstealey
May 19, 2016 5:47 pm

I should hardly think so. These NGO liberals have not adopted the life of the subsistence farmer. They live the lifestyles of rich first worlders jet-setting around to international climate confabs and otherwise saving the planet. This is most assuredly *not* the life they have chosen for Zimbabwean farmers.

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 7:37 pm

that’s what social-regressives do. They’re the Masterminds.

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 2:14 am

That is the age-old question, and it encompasses not just today’s “liberals” but swathes of non-liberals over the centuries too.

Reply to  Tim Hammond
May 21, 2016 7:36 am

Nearly everyone wants simple answers and simple solutions. A typical “liberal” or “conservative,” religious or atheist, wants things in black and white. They like nice simple, clear cut answers that establish what’s right and what’s wrong, beginnings and endings, Creation and Armageddon or the Big Bang and the heat death of the universe. This limits the demand for thinking about complex problems in a complex fashion. Very few people actually enjoy the complexity of reality. Postulating that humans “are responsible” whether it is climate change or original sin is a simple way of determining what is “wrong” with reality and prescribing what can be done about it. In effect, whether you are a Green or a rabidly conservative religious fundamentalist, what is wrong with the world is the people in it and they way they want to “get above themselves,” a perception of a “failing” in humanity that is not limited to any specific doctrine or political stance.
Essentially, if you compare common religious fundamentalist doctrines and their answers to what is wrong with the world (you need to file off the formal labels and simply look at problem descriptions and prescribed solutions), and “Green” solutions to what is wrong with the world, there is no difference in problem cause identification, and there are very few differences in prescribed solutions. The cause of what is “wrong” in the world is always humanity. The solution both offer is for you to live “correctly,” and that means a simpler, less technologically sophisticated, more ignorant life if you are simply a member of the hoi poloi. Effectively, a Green wants you to live minimally more like a Mennonite, while at max, they would prefer us hunting and gathering. A fundamentalist of religious bent tends to want you to live more like a Shaker: no sex, no children, no “original” sinning. Greens don’t want you to reproduce, and your garden fundamentalist doesn’t want you enjoying doing so.

Kaiser Derden
Reply to  Tim Hammond
May 22, 2016 10:06 pm

and they were usually fascists … who tended to break alot of “eggs” (i.e. mass murder) in their quest to “fix” society …

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 5:54 am

In some ways the idea of being right, and having a superior outlook has switched maybe from the socialists to the liberals maybe. I mean those people who know what is good for others and are prepared to make rules to ensure that progress. progressives. It is a funny word. I see them as regressive

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 6:10 am

The denizens of “green” fantasy-land ought to try LIVING the hand-to-mouth life of a subsistence farmer sometime; there’s a reason why people quit that life the first moment they’re able. Most of these overeducated idiots’ only experience with “back to nature” is summer camp in Maine.

David A
Reply to  Marcus
May 21, 2016 7:29 am

I thought they desperately wanted population reduction. Clearly as greater percentages move to city life family size reduces. Due to modernization and the efficiency machines bring, advanced cultures become ever more service oriented with only intermittent displacement problems, usually aggravated and made much worse by government help. As long as people have desires, there will be work opportunity in an advanced and free society.

Eugene WR Gallun
May 19, 2016 5:26 pm

“How you going to keep them down on the farm once they have seen Paree?”
Eugene WR Gallun

Barbara Skolaut
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
May 20, 2016 7:04 pm

How you gonna keep them down on the farm after they’ve seen the farm?

Reply to  Barbara Skolaut
May 21, 2016 7:44 am

Farming, especially farming using the human back or animal traction is very hard work. There is a group in Oregon attempting to profile “what” makes a successfully family-owned, multigenerational farm. They have been looking at farms and ranches that last at least a century. There aren’t many and the prospects of those that remain is not unclouded. The younger generations gravitate away from dawn to dusk work, that requires attention for 365 days a year and leaves you so sore at the end of the day you can barely. It used to be that a ranch could hire a small cadre of permanent staff that allowed everyone a break. These days, permanent hired help raises product costs to noncompetitive levels.

May 19, 2016 5:37 pm

Environmental NGOs have a long history of irrationally romanticizing peasant life. They conceive of peasants living an idyllic “back to nature” near paradise, with no understanding of the realities of subsistence farming. Once imagined as such, it is easy to see any change as “evil industrialization” (in this case CAGW, same thing), which must be fought.
It is this Utopian thinking which led the World Bank to halt all investment in fossil fuel electric generation in the third world. Apparently the World Bank believes that access to electricity will wreck the peasant’s quality of life.

Reply to  TonyL
May 19, 2016 7:31 pm

(Well, maybe them banksters are misarable ; )

Reply to  TonyL
May 19, 2016 8:43 pm

Oxfam which is also funding projects in the drought-prone Gutu rural, found that engaging local communities in the design and implementation of climate change adaptation activities – for example, creating small scale irrigation schemes, grazing areas – holds considerable potential to reduce migration.

Helping people in a drought stricken country set up irrigation systems to better use their water resources is fine. But Oxfam ( who only give about 10% of the money they collect to people they claim to help ) have realised that there is a massive “Green Fund” to be tapped here. So if they spin this as “climate adaptation” they can get their fingers into a very juicy pie.

Reply to  Greg
May 20, 2016 10:26 am

That sentence made me roll my eyes so hard it is a wonder they remained in my head. Irrigation and avoiding overgrazing are not “climate change adaptation activities”, they are sensible land management practices.

Tim Hammond
Reply to  TonyL
May 20, 2016 2:24 am

Many people don’t understand Marxism/socialism – and I’m not trying to be rude.
Primarily it has nothing to do with making the poor less poor. It is about class warfare and the “inevitable” destruction of capitalism. This is why the Left in many places seems to act irrationally, doing things that stop the poor getting more wealthy.
In many ways. socialists don’t believe that the poor do – can – become better off though capitalism or markets, they see it simply as more capitalist exploitation. Thus, Oxfam and the others prefer to see co-operatives of poverty in difficult to farm farms than more prosperous workers having easier lives but working for capitalists.

Reply to  Tim Hammond
May 20, 2016 6:10 am

Zactly. It’s not about helping the poor; it’s about destroying the rich.

Reply to  TonyL
May 20, 2016 6:14 am

That “utopia” included frequent visits from cholera, malaria, TB, dysentery, and various other joys like infant mortality, internal parasites, and STARVATION. Remember those pictures of “starving children in Africa” with protruding bellies and stick-like arms. Yeah, progressives. That was a “thing.” Still is!

James Hein
May 19, 2016 5:50 pm

They just shut down our last large coal fired power plant in South Australia that was located outside of the main city. I suspect that this will cause quite a number of people to migrate to the city because of Climate Change. Not because of the actual climate itself but the Green lobby trying to rid Australia of coal making power unreliable and more expensive everywhere.
The same Green lobby are the ones always citing the max theoretical output of the wind farms as the power provided by them rather than the measured under 9% average for the year. Since it is the former reported and not the latter people believe that wind is providing their power when now it has to come from interstate coal and gas fired power stations with an even higher price tag.

Michael Jankowski
May 19, 2016 5:55 pm

Was “urban flight” in the US tied to global cooling fears?

May 19, 2016 6:07 pm

“There is little research to establish the extent of climate change – induced migration and its impact on rural people. But certainly, the movements will put pressure on already strained urban authorities. Local authorities need to act swiftly to avoid a situation whereby services like water and sewer provisions, demand for power and other essential services overpower them,” Zvigadza added while equating the Zimbabwean situation to that of Europe and America where millions of people are migrating as economic refugee or climate refugees.
Who the hell is Zvigadza?

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Grant
May 20, 2016 2:17 am

Yet they make no mention of the disastrous mismanagement of the economy and in particular of farms in Zimbabwe by Mugabae.
Lots of farm have simply been seized by Mugabae cronies (and not just from whites, from political opponents and from Ndebele as well), and it is now virtually impossible to get hold of farm implements, grain, fertiliser etc.
People are fleeing to the city because the countryside is in ruins.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Tim Hammond
May 20, 2016 3:22 pm

THANK YOU Tim. Zimbabwes problem have NOTHING to do with Climate and EVERYTHING to do with Robert Mugabes crony communism…”Democracy means one man, one vote, and I am that man”

Gerry, England
Reply to  Tim Hammond
May 21, 2016 2:43 am

Quite correct. Under the glorious leader Zimbabwe has gone from being a supplier of food in southern Africa and a profitable tobacco exporter to a country that can’t even feed itself.

May 19, 2016 6:09 pm

Back a while, when I lived in South Africa people would flood in from neighbouring countries looking for jobs. Botswana was also faring relatively better than most neighbouring countries due to a stable government. These days Namibia is in pretty decent shape as well. People moving to find jobs where there are better prospects is hardly news. Associating it with climate change is sheer fantasy and/or political correctness over economic and scientific reality.
I’d imagine a lot of Oxfam employees have little understanding of the reality on the ground, and rely on their donors knowing even less.

May 19, 2016 6:18 pm

Oxfam seems to want to implement environmental racism in Africa. Typical holdover from the colonial past.

May 19, 2016 6:21 pm

I’d like to do a small correction on to what’s really not being said here…
Video: 0:02 / 1:11:01
Brexit The Movie

Why does European Politics mean anything for Americas or anyone else?
Just like NAFTA this is the agenda to remove borders and to blend all societies for a (New World Order) controlled by those whom are behind the scenes. Most whom were never elected but appointed to sell out their own countries. (Only possible from a fiat money system that can buy off anyone because after all when you can’t print monies from thin air it cost’s THEM nothing but is later charged off as National Debt’s.)
Before anyone judges this comment: Please watch the video posted above first.
Secondly: Refugee’s are in fact “WAR REFUGEE’S” From the US and it’s Allied “Partners” whom much like WWII are “Terror Bombing” over 7 Countries without a declared STATE OF WAR. Sure it’s sold as the war on terrorism but is it really?
This is also much like the Sanctions imposed on other nation states to continue the US Dollar hegemony in the world. The US or “Corporate America” has outsourced it’s jobs for CHEAP Slave Labor of those 3rd world countries.
In case your also not up on THE NEWS? This is just like the alleged “WAR ON DRUGS” where as far back as the Oliver North CONTRAS to the past “Fast & Furious” Gun-Walking to Mexico and Central America whereas the DHS/ATF Armed the Cartel’s of which those like HSBC and Well’s Fargo then laundered hundreds of billions of dollars in Cartel monies. Then the GUNS that killed many thousands in those US Supported Cartel Wars in Mexico and Central America. If you also remember El Chapo? His “Man Cave” was also stuffed with those same arms that were used to kill as well as kill US Border Patrol agent(s).
Fast Forward to General Wesley Clark in his video released in 2002 whereas he stated: “The US will attack 7 Countries in 5 Years.” None of which had Attacked the United States. I must add here that demographically speaking the US is 71% Christian. What is sold to the people as National Security is in fact Corporate American INTERESTS only. i.e. Arms sales and IMF loans (AT INTEREST) and so on. Those who also must accept GMOs and other US Trade that is only done in the Mafia US Dollar.
As part of their agenda: You have to remove the peoples cultures. This “blending” is also done by destroying churches, religious artifacts, confederate flags, self identity as far as sex/gender, national sovereignty as of course PRIDE. albeit “White Pride” or “Native” and so on. Pushed through sponsored movements of #Blacklivesmatter to incite racial divisions, evil Muslim’s, fictional Russian aggression. I have to pause on this last point – Russia’s annexation of Crimea? Where the US is planning on “Partitioning Syria and Iraq?” Or we can go as far back to alleged “Sneak Attack on Pearl Harbor” Where Hawaii wasn’t even a State until 1959 and illegally annexed by the USA.
George Orwell’s use of DOUBLESPEAK is noted here.
This is much like also the political process here in America today.
They don’t care about what YOU THINK! Your VOTE is controlled by their “Super Delegates” and them ONLY. This agenda is much like those in the Middle East and Europe where the people’s VOTE don’t count as they are going to put their appointed politicians in place. Not Yours!
Example: Those STATES in the Middle East are in a proxy war with the US because??? They have thrown out their US Proxy Governments. And in doing so want to RULE THEMSELVES. (Democracy) Yet when you have all the OIL and MINERALS under your land and it is to be traded ONLY in the US Dollar you (America) with it’s fiat money system have to make sure all “Mafia” sales are in that dollar to keep this fake system of commerce going. If you don’t your forced into US Sanctions. Like that seen in Venezuelan and Brazil or the later that murdered 500,000 Iraqi children under Saddam. Whom I might also add got UN approval to bypass those US Sanctions and in the Oil for Food program switch sales of Oil into the Euro Dollar. He was attacked shortly after that.
Before anyone pays attention to news of a certain area of conflict in the world it would be best to look at said country and what their GDP is and from what source that GDP comes from. This is also why you don’t see the US attacking starving 3rd world countries and having “Boot’s on the Ground” in those areas. It’s ONLY where sales of that nations wealth in to be in US Dollars only.
Locally here in America you don’t see our Congress demanding lead free water for it’s citizens, nor Congress doing anything about cities going bankrupt, bridges collapsing, corporate fraud, banking fraud, police state issues of killing Americans or the host of victim-less crimes that finance this Police State to keep the court system going, privatized prisons, shinny new prowler cars with high resolution LED light bars which oddly only show up after a crime has been committed but are so glad to pose with the media as if they were actually doing something.
As long as “WE” Plural are fighting among ourselves they the Elite are free to do what they want. Distraction is the magic behind any scripted performance.
Finally I’ll add one more thing here:
The DHS SENTRI program. Here is a Iris and 10 Point Finger ID and Full Backgrounds check. The DHS brags on their site that “Members” have only a 10 Second delay in flashing their ID and on into the United States in (Speed Pass) Lanes.
Most Drug bust’s in the California area netting Millions in METH, COCAINE, MARIJUANA and other drugs have all been members of that SENTRI program. (GOOGLE IT!)
This drives the police state more. drops property values and Corporate America wins again. Drugs up, Crime is up, Murder is up as well as the FEAR FACTOR to drive the programs of WAR ON DRUGS and WAR ON TERROR. You pay for this both before and after by Taxes.
You by silence allowed the guns to Mexico, Libya, Syria etc etc and by doing so you took monies from our schools, cities, future of our Children to finance all this and it will in return be charged back to you and yours Children’s Children as their National Debt.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 19, 2016 7:10 pm

…Someone forgot to take their meds today !

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 9:31 pm

That is a basic ruse to deflect from the real issues. Instead of addressing what I mentioned… You attack me.
P.S. I am sure Fox, CNN, ABC, CBS or others would gladly hire you. You like them could also be paid millions of dollars a year to sell out your country. If this is your country?

US lead wars cause WAR REFUGEE’S and YOU or others will pay for it!
Under Nuremberg Law: Knowledge was used as a primary factor to convict those of War Crimes after WWII albeit through participation or by their silence. (Aiding and Abetting)

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 9:44 pm

Sorry Marcus, I set the signal a little to high to night and the reception is unusually good.
Now where is that dang metric adjustable…..

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 9:46 pm

Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion
Montana Now Offering Illegals Unemployment & In-State Tuition
Cost of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
$4 to $6 trillion
The Iraq and Afghanistan wars will together cost $4 to $6 trillion, according a new study from Harvard University’s Kennedy School.
This is known as National Debt. I cited Montana because I live here.
The Wars are all causing WAR REFUGEE’S and thus by that Cost you not only pay for THE WARS but also for the replacement of those fleeing those US and Allied “Terror Bombings.”
Today in Congress: House Votes Down Proposal To End 2001 War Authorization
So be prepared to fund more wars as 300,000 Veterans have died due to lack of medical or mental health services, 22 veterans a day commit suicide, lead in water and a host of other issues that shows America is in the final stages of collapsing from that debt.
Perhaps Marcus your more worried about what bathroom stalls people should be using?

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 9:59 pm

Keith T. Rodgers
..alleged “Sneak Attack on Pearl Harbor” ?? Maybe you should up your meds for the next few days !

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 11:45 pm

Capt. Eric Nave, 94, Breaker of Japanese Codes
Dan van derDat, a British military historian, wrote in The Guardian last week that Mr. Nave made “enormous inroads” into Japanese coded messages. In June 1939, shortly before World War II broke out in Europe, the Japanese Navy began using an important new code. *Captain Nave was able to read it by the end of the year.*
The authors contend that if Britain had shared its understanding of the Japanese Navy’s codes with the United States all through 1941, the Japanese force that mounted the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, might have been crushed by forewarned American defenders.
“The denial of this information was no accident,” the book says, “but the deliberate policy of Churchill himself to achieve his aim of dragging America into the war.”
It was Churchill and Roosevelt through the use of 8 point sanctions to drive America into the War.
I not again that “Hawaii” wasn’t even a State until 1959 and just another illegally annexed PORT of CALL for the US Navy . Hence Hawaii wasn’t attacked, just Pearl Harbor. This is also why in advanced knowledge the US pulled it’s flat top carriers out of Pearl Harbor and stationed them near Midway.
Churchill wrote in his Nobel Prize winning series on WWII that FDR knew about the Japanese plans to attack Pearl Harbor. The following is from pages 602-603 of THE GRAND ALLIANCE, c1950. Churchill makes these points about his good friend and colleague FDR, accusing him of treason while knowing that the facts would eventually come out:
Hawaii’s commanders did not get proper warning.
Churchill was not going to judge what FDR did at Pearl Harbor.
FDR and he were very afraid that the US could not come into the war unless Japan attacked the U.S.
Pearl Harbor was worth the price.
FDR “knew the full and immediate purpose” of the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
FDR welcomed the attack.
And this amazing statement: “Nor must we allow the account in detail of diplomatic interchanges to portray Japan as an injured innocent…” That is an admission, granted forced by the facts, that Japan WAS the injured innocent, maneuvered into firing the first shot, as Secretary of War Stimson put it. Cabinet Minister Sir Oliver Lyttelton, expressed the same point on June 20, 1944, to the American Chamber of Commerce: “Japan was provoked into attacking the Americans at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty on history ever to say that America was forced into the war. Everyone knows where American sympathies were. It is incorrect to say that America was ever truly neutral even before America came into the war on a fighting basis.” – See PH VERDICT OF HISTORY, Prange, pp 39-40.
Like the event of 9/11 the authors of PNAC called for a “New Pearl Harbor” to incite Americans to War.
This is of course is where your led to believe that hijackers and men in caves in Afghanistan using 2001 WiFi technology were able to bring down NORADs defense and fly 4 planes freely around the eastern side of the US and not a single fighter could take them out?

First blamed on Afghanistan, then Iraq, now the 28 redacted pages implicating the Saudi’s and now? Blame Iran and have a Judge order the Islamic Republic to repay 9/11 victims?
Just as… Who was really behind the PNAC “Freedom Agenda?”

See also: Netanyahu was wrong about Iraq having nuclear weapons

How many have to be killed/murdered over lies?

Reply to  Marcus
May 19, 2016 10:29 pm

Thank you, Keith.

Reply to  JohnKnight
May 19, 2016 10:42 pm

Your Welcome Mr. Knight.
Once your Awake you can’t go back to Sheep.
Read More?

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 1:23 am

If you read Winston’s diaries, he does hint about knowing in advance about Pearl Harbour. “Because I study History”

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 4:12 am

Keith T. Rodgers…One of the reasons it was a “Sneak Attack” on Pearl Harbor is because there was NO Declaration of War !

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 6:14 am

Marcus, I hate to bust your ego’s bubble… But Sanctions are both economic and financial warfare.
This is much like the financial terrorism launched upon Germany in 1933.
When Germany under Hitler dropped the illegal odious debt’s incurred from former regimes of WWI and the ungodly Versailles treaty that left the German people paying for a war they didn’t start and while the world it’s-self was in a Great Depression. Hitler thus in doing so freed the Germans and it was called “The German Miracle” In fact Hitler was TIME MAGAZINES “Man of the Year!” for doing so.
As I have previously mentioned, this is the root of all evil’s and that evil is spread by propaganda.
Judea then declared WAR on Germany with a massive boycott. Though oddly today boycotting Israel via the #BSD movement is being labeled as antisemitic?
Ref: (Video) Of the “Real News” from that era.
Within that Propaganda came the lie’s that followed. (NOTICE THE RED LINES IN THE LEFT COLUMN?) in the image below…
As well as actual facts:
Plus you are free to Google Germany’s WWII prison camps and the cause of TYPHUS and related deaths. As well as not limited to the number of Cities destroyed by Allied Terror Bombings and the amount of casualties inflicted in each of the near 50 cities destroyed.
This is you have access to war footage as I have would reflect the miles of civilians that lined the roads of Europe with “WAR REFUGEE’S” from that TERROR BOMBINGS.
This brings Us to the sales pitch used today as has before.
Whether it’s communism, Red Scare, Evil Muslim’s, WMD’s, Babies in Incubators thrown on the floor, yellowcaked uranium, anthrax, American Cities will burn, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Putin has a “Death Star” or Putin farts in elevators or rips the “Do Not Remove Label’s” off mattresses and pillows, Iran’s nuclear energy program given to Iran under the Atom’s for Peace program in 1954. Though I admit this is after the CIA lead coup in 1953 that is now admitted to.
In rebuttal to no “Declared War.” US Sanctions on Iraq murdered 500,000 Iraqi Children. Just as in 1983 the US support via Rumsfield to Saddam and the Iraq & Iran war in which those Chemical’s from the WEST were used on the Republican Guard. Nearly 1 Million dead.
Then we have today’s “Evil ISIS” Chopping heads of burning people alive. The French used that method as well as today the Saudi’s a US Allie also does. But let’s not forget actual history. OK?
The problem is like in WWII the reclassifying people as if human life means nothings.
This may shock you, but future historians will look back at the WEST and the United States as being more evil then the Nazi’s were alleged to have been. The US with it’s wars and war crimes along with it’s allied partners who bomb weddings, funerals, emt/ems workers, schools and hospitals will be long remembered by many.
You might like to consent to those actions that like in Venezuela who through US sanctions have people eating their pets to stay alive. But I don’t!
One thing I learned in 4 decades of being in communications is that, COMMUNICATIONS!
Or as my wish Grandpa once said… “If you don’t like my gate then don’t swing on it.”
I am open to debate while we are still able to do so. But know this… No where in Our US Constitution does it give power to those elected/appointed to LIE to US.
[??? The mods politely point out that each number above is highly disputed, and all are highly exaggerated, and none are correct. .mod]

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 6:43 am

Keith, the insanity you spout ad infinitum has been refuted so many times, it’s just not worth going over it again for the latest idiot.
Try growing up and reading some non-propaganda sites for a change.
Then when you have managed to regain your sanity, come back for a polite conversation.

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 6:44 am

mods, can you remove the spam?

Reply to  Marcus
May 20, 2016 7:29 am

Keith, are you actually trying to claim that the only problem in Venzuela is the US embargo?
I suppose you are one of the idiots who blame the problems in Cuba with the US embargo, despite the fact that the rest of the world continues to trade with both countries.

Another Ian
Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 1:33 am

“Pearl Harbor: the Verdict of History” G.W. Prange with D.M. Goldstein and K.V. Dillon. McGraw-Hill

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 5:30 am

So sayeth: Keith T. Rodgers – May 19, 2016 at 6:21 pm
Keith, …… I thank you for that great commentary.
You sir, have a great mind with exceptional recall abilities of literal truths and facts, …… with the unique un-biased mental abilities of common sense thinking, logical reasoning and intelligent deductions, …… mental attributes that are drastically deficient among the majority of the populace.

May 19, 2016 6:22 pm

the childlike innocence of the climate change world view:
all the problems of the world may be framed in terms of climate change and then solved simply by cutting fossil fuel emissions.
how sweet it is

May 19, 2016 6:29 pm

I forgot to include something in prior comment:
I am lead to “BELIEVE” that my Ford Ranger 2002 is a threat to Climate Change. Yet not when the US and it’s Allied partners are blowing up millions of barrels of oil in the Middle East, nor the Chemical spills, Oil Spills from Corporate America like the new one in the Gulf 2016.
Yet if I drip a drop of oil on my dirt I am to be be the one that caused this all?
I could add my Wood Stove to that list. Yet the Forest Service burns 1000’s of acres to kill Beatles?

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 19, 2016 11:40 pm

The Forest Service killing Beatles? So *that*’s what really happened to John Lennon.

Reply to  Richard A. O'Keefe
May 19, 2016 11:56 pm

Actually I think that Beatles was the CIA/FBI’s handy work.
It is and had been a common ploy to kill Civil Right’s leaders, Union’s, Gun Owners and anyone else that goes against the agenda.
This is like the current political assessment: Hillary is Status Quo. Trump means change from that continued war footing that creates immigration and war refugees.
After all: Here in the US at least your not being droned to death. YET!
I supply this quote taken from MilitaryTimes which has recently been removed.
Imagine if our Sons were targeted because of age or our children.
Also to note: Insurgent’s vs. Freedom Fighters. When you illegally attack other countries by forming a coalition of the willing without UN approval you invite those to fight that oppression and wars on their lands.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 6:46 am

Blowing up millions of barrels of oil?
Tell me Keith, have you even once, visited the planet we call Earth?

Reply to  MarkW
May 20, 2016 7:02 am

..You really have to wonder how these people continue to survive in this horrible world !! /sarc…

May 19, 2016 6:35 pm

Leftists have utterly destroyed Africa.
Rather than adopting free-market capitalism and limited/decetralized government systems, Africa has gone the route of Socialism/Communism/tyranny/Islamic theocracy/kleptocracy with devastating economic and societal consequences.
Foreign and domestic corporations are reluctant to invest and expand in Africa out of fear of some dictator not staying bought or being replaced in a bloody coup or their businesses being ruined by some new: rule, regulation, currency crisis, tax or complete confiscation of assets that some dictator arbitrarily creates or implements for personal short-term gain..
I had the depressing displeasure of working in Africa for 4 years… What a gorgeous hell hole…
Let’s blame Climate Change for Africa’s problems and prevent them from generating cheap and abundant fossil fuel energy… That’ll work great! Jeez..
Let’s also steal more money from poor people in rich countries to give to rich dictators in poor African counties. That’s worked so well so far, so let’s do more of that…

Another Ian
Reply to  SAMURAI
May 20, 2016 1:36 am

Didn’t just happen to fit in with tribal outlook by any chance?

May 19, 2016 6:41 pm

Running a farm with primitive tools is awfully hard work, likely too hard for someone past their prime. In dirt poor rural economies, people who can’t work starve to death – there is very little spare capacity to take care of the elderly and sick. Zimbabweans have a shockingly short life expectancy.
But running an urban street stall, like Bernard Chingawo, is the kind of work which older people who are past their prime can do.

In fact people in the 55-80 age bracket have an okay life expectancy in Zimbabwe (for Africa).
The “shockingly short life expectancy” is due to the under 40s. The causes of death for which Zimbabwe is a world leader … AIDS and cervical cancer …. are sexually transmitted.

David A
Reply to  Seth
May 21, 2016 7:46 am

That people live to older age has nothing to do with the section you quoted, except perhaps support it. If you are older, but still alive, you know hard physical work takes an ever greater toll as you age.

May 19, 2016 6:44 pm

A while back I watched a film documenting several days in the life of a stone age Amazon forest tribe. At the beginning, the narrator, who had arrived with crew in a small plane, was explaining that the government of the country went to significant lengths to prevent anyone outside the “bureau” from knowing where such tribes lived or to trespass their territory. It is, he said, very important that their way of life not be corrupted and that they be allowed to retain their age old ways.
While I agree that those peoples should have the right to do as they wish, the obvious was being captured on film. As the guy talked, the entire gathered tribe watched the plane taxi across a clearing and rise into the sky, becoming smaller and smaller with distance. That old saying (song?) was playing in my mind as he blathered on: ‘how you gonna keep them down on the farm when …’

May 19, 2016 6:51 pm

Many dark skinned people are arriving in Northern Europe, from the Middle East and Africa.
Displaced by climate change – we are told.
Unfortunately their skin colour is an adaptation to overhead sun, and they will be prone to developing Vitamin D deficiency and rickets at a northern latitude.
Especially where their women continue to cover themselves from head to toe – as is traditional in many of their native cultures.
I expect that such people must have taken heed of IPCC upper limits of several degrees warming by the end of the century.
Their great grandchildren will be disappointed. N. Europe will never be as warm as N. Africa.
The countries to which they have fled will always be significantly colder than the ones in which their ancestors adapted.
So now climate change is causing people to choose to live in the wrong climate.
But luckily these also happen to be countries where there are generous welfare benefits and free healthcare. And the countries from which they have fled are often suffering from civil unrest, terror attacks and war.
Obviously however, when the climate fails to change as promised, such people will doubtlessly return home. (sarc.)

Reply to  indefatigablefrog
May 19, 2016 7:14 pm

“And the countries from which they have fled are often suffering from civil unrest, terror attacks and war.”
Not to worry, I suspect that the newcomers will make the host countries quite familiar to themselves on these counts.

May 19, 2016 8:37 pm


…the Matabeleland region, most people are relocating to neighbouring Botswana and South Africa in search of jobs to fend for their families back home.

The reason people are leaving is because the murderous and corrupt president has ruined what was once a productive agricultural economy. But charities know there’s money in climate spin.

Another Ian
Reply to  Greg
May 20, 2016 1:52 am

Do your research. Matabele is NOT the tribe of Mugabe
And, despite about 500 years of European interference, seems to me that African politics seems to make more sense when you get the gist of what tribe hates what-other tribe’s guts.
And, in this light, South Africa being presented as a numbers black vs white was a sell along the lines of CAGW. Didn’t consider how many tribes and which tribes trusted which tribes.

Reply to  Greg
May 20, 2016 2:03 am

As with all World Strife there is always a reason.
You can replace this headline below with current other countries that have told the US to leave!!!!
Mugabe Threatens to Expel US, British Diplomats
Zimbabwe’s President Robert Mugabe has threatened to expel the ambassadors from the United States and Britain, accusing them of fomenting anarchy in his country.
State Dept. on Arrest for Sedition in Botswana of Outsa Mokone
Read more:
You can laugh at the response of the US State Departments comments on freedoms and apply that to the transparency here as well as those locked up for exposing this government corruption and war crimes.
Also Note: Botswana has maintained one of the world’s highest economic growth rates since independence in 1966. However, economic growth was negative in 2009, with the industrial sector shrinking by 30%, after the global crisis reduced demand for Botswana’s diamonds. Although the economy recovered in 2010, GDP growth has again slowed. Through fiscal discipline and sound management, Botswana transformed itself from one of the poorest countries in the world to a middle-income country with a per capita GDP of $16,400 in 2013. Two major investment services rank Botswana as the best credit risk in Africa. Diamond mining has fueled much of the expansion and currently accounts for more than one-third of GDP, 70-80% of export earnings, and about one-third of the government’s revenues. Botswana’s heavy reliance on a single luxury export was a critical factor in the sharp economic contraction of 2009. Tourism, financial services, subsistence farming, and cattle raising are other key sectors. According to official government statistics, unemployment reached 17.8% in 2009, but unofficial estimates run much higher. The prevalence of HIV/AIDS is second highest in the world and threatens Botswana’s impressive economic gains. An expected leveling off in diamond production within the next two decades overshadows long-term prospects. (( A major international diamond company signed a 10-year deal with Botswana in 2012 to move its rough stone sorting and trading division from London to Gaborone by the end of 2013. )) The move may support Botswana’s downstream diamond industry.
When anyone looks to another country and it’s trade as well as internal commerce just as Venezuela with US Sanctions and now Brazil. (BRICS) reduced to RICS? That the US Government is always meddling in their states affairs.
Just as in the rest of the world the PEOPLE are reduced to slaves for their countries National Debt’s which drives poverty, lack of health care, schooling and so on. But as you know “Corporate America” is glad to rush in and privatize all after said countries default on IMF loans (At Interest) and what remains is more slaves to debt.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 4:06 am

..Wow, Anthony and the mods sure are allowing a lot of ” Fruits and Nuts” to play here today !!
[Some threads are – by their nature and subject – evoke very emotional and very politically charged responses. … Recognize that, ignore those threads if you wish. .mod]

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 6:50 am

One constant with trolls, everything bad that has ever happened, is the fault of the US.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 7:31 am

mods, in general I don’t mind the fruits and nuts. It’s just when they insist on posting responses that are thousands of lines long. That’s abusive.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 7:58 am

MarkW, calling posters names (i.e. fruits/nuts) is abusive.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 9:49 am

It’s not abusive if it’s true.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 10:17 am

I see your point MarkW. So then it is not abusive if I call you a [**reference to the orifice expelling solid wastes ***]

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 1:00 pm

It would be abusive, since it’s not true.
However as a reference to yourself, it’s still a possibility.

Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 1:01 pm

Let me tell you guys, having my own personal troll is quite an ego boost.
Next thing you know I’ll be making the list of national climate deniers.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Keith T. Rodgers
May 20, 2016 3:28 pm

Note that Botswana is not Zimbabwe. They are different countries. Zimbabwe is largely agricultural, and is run by a raving communist. Botswana has a little mineral wealth and is barely run at all. It is actually a fun place to visit, if you use a condom.

May 19, 2016 8:57 pm

I know an engineer whose sole job is to retrofit our sub fleet to fit a woman’s height. It’s just not a Kansas kinda thing.

May 19, 2016 11:15 pm

“Hilary Clinton said you know, it takes a village to raise a child and somebody said it takes a village idiot to believe that … it is part of the whole thing of third parties wanting to make decisions for which they pay no price when they’re wrong.”
― Thomas Sowell

May 19, 2016 11:30 pm
May 19, 2016 11:38 pm

But, but, but, people moving from farms to cities went on for CENTURIES in the West. [Before the industrial revolution] “Cities could not maintain their numbers without the intrepid newcomers who streamed through their gates.”
Migration to cities could, I suppose, be triggered by climate change, either kind. But mainly it’s because cities are happening places where there are different opportunities from rural areas.
It could even be a sign that agriculture is getting more efficient and doesn’t need as many people, but we’d need trustworthy figures to tell whether or not that’s happening. (Just like we’d need trustworthy figures to tell whether or not climate change is happening, and there are fewer of those than we’d like.)

Chris Hanley
May 19, 2016 11:58 pm

The Australian branch of World Vision devotes a lot of space on its web site to Climate Change™ and its efforts to promote “sustainable development” in underdeveloped economies mainly in Africa; measures like “Farmer Managed Natural Regeneration”, “The Clean Stoves Project” and the sale of carbon credits to the World Bank to generate income.
No doubt it’s better than nothing but IMO the Chinese are showing the way by the massive growth of China – Africa trade.
You could be forgiven for thinking the good people at World Vision Australia actually don’t want the majority of Africans to develop their economies and enjoy the lifestyle they themselves enjoy.

Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
May 20, 2016 1:20 am

If I correct in 2005, TV Channel run a Mr. CM programme on different topics to interact with Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh [late] Dr. Y. S. Rajashekara Reddy. On one such occasion relating urban issues, I was invited along with two media persons to interact with CM. CM in his opening statements, he mentioned that we must encourage rural to urban migration and thus needs build infrastructure. He stated to counter this saying that Mr. CM you have been trying to increase the irrigation potential and better utilization of irrigated water, Rural to urban migration is a bad practice on sevral counts [other two media members on the panel supported my view point when CM asked their openion on my observation].
In India, around 60 to 65% rural population is enjoying emplyment in agriculture [directly and indirectly]. Government is encouraging migration because to introduce corporate agriculture like in developing countries. But, the people going to urban areas are living miserable unhealthy life in filty atmosphere — air & water pollution.
We are demanding the government to encourage traditional agriculture with food processing. But governments are spending huge sums in the development of infrastructure in urban areas with less than 30% of population and making rural life miserable at the behest of corporates.
With the unplanned urban growth temperature is raising, clean air is impossible to get with butchering trees [greenery] and destroying water bodies with blacktop roads with high air pollution levels. Domestic seewage is contaminating both surface and ground water and creating new diseases and more costly hospitals — Sick Planet book dealth these issues.
Food production is not a problem, globally around 30% of what is produced is going as waste. This is around 40-50% in India. With the natural resources that used to produce that much is going as waste.
People needs nutritious food. But what is available in urban areas is polluted and adulterated food.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy

May 20, 2016 1:41 am

Just don’t mention the political nightmare that is Mugabe. Meanwhile to the north Zambia continues to record increased production.

Mark - Helsinki
May 20, 2016 2:06 am

In Brazil all the farmers out in the rainforests are seeing their kids leave and head to the cities, for jobs and education, which is also good for the forests
More bunk junk.

Mark - Helsinki
May 20, 2016 2:07 am

Most young people dont want to be farmers

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
May 20, 2016 10:30 am

Of course not, that would entail lots of hard work. Much better to sit around playing video games and collecting government handouts taken from those that do work.

Ivor Ward
May 20, 2016 2:34 am

You really do not need conspiracy theories or climate change or colonialism or any of the other self flagellating memes of the lefty luvvies to explain Zimbabwe. It was the bread basket of Africa then Mugabe took over and now it is the basket case of Africa.
You can spend your life fighting wars that were over 50 years ago or you can get on with your life today. The successful people and Countries do the latter.

Peta in Cumbria
May 20, 2016 3:13 am

and there are so many things going on here also..
first of course= “Climate Change” = pass-the-buck, its someone ele’s fault, such as those evil Kock brothers, Big Oil, BP, The Chinese, somebody, anybody but me. Me: I’m perfect and want to save these people, critters, poly bears, grandchildren, The World etc… Me, I care so much I cry myself to sleep at night.
Next up is Good Intentions.
Oxfam and the like are riddled with these. They so desperatly want to ‘help’ these people, to look after their welfare, health, homes and to save them from some or all of any imagined disasters, present or future. One of the great things about humans is the ability to tell lies and, even worse, for liars to believe their own lies.
We here at WUWT are fully aware that the urge to ‘save’ is actually a deep seated urge to control, to control other people, critters, environments and/or whatever.
Why this need to control and why is it lied about?
Simply, it is yet another manifestation of a chronic depression within (certainly Western) society. Depressed people cannot handle uncertainty, they lack the self confidence to deal with the unknown and unexpected. Therefore, free-spirited and free-willed people become a threat. Such folks are able to, and will do, random and unexpected things and slow witted & muddled brains cannot handle that. Hence the need to control, mendaciously disguised as the urge to save.
What about another correlation? Try alcohol consumption (=chronic depression and lack of self confidence) versus the belief in cAGW, especially the catastrophic bit…..

Doug Huffman
May 20, 2016 4:31 am

Moocher (a la Atlas Shrugged) ‘rats move to the city. Producers seek out their Galt’s Gulch Utopia Far From the Madding Crowd.

May 20, 2016 5:39 am

Heinlein had it right: ‘Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.’
Cities attract people who want to control other people, and people who want to rely on other people to make their decisions for them – i.e. people willing to be controlled.
Rural areas are attractive to the iconoclasts.
Somewhere in-between there is a point where the conveniences of city life and the freedom of rural life balance. For me that is a city of about 100,000 to 200,000. One of my co-workers is most comfortable in a city of millions, another in a town of under 1000.

May 20, 2016 6:38 am

Let’s see, a phenomena that has been going on for hundreds of years, but we are supposed to believe that recently whatever caused it before has shut down and CO2 has taken over.
Where have I heard that story before?

Reply to  MarkW
May 20, 2016 7:04 am

..MarkW, I bet Keith T. Rodgers believes it’s an Alien conspiracy !! LOL

May 20, 2016 8:47 am

Zimbabwe is a naturally rich country and had a thriving economy before the current government undertook to steal the land from the farmers who knew how to farm and hand it out to those who knew nothing. They went down the same rabbit hole that Venezuela is now determined to follow – hyperinflation, loss of productivity, economic and social disaster.
If a naturally occurring drought cycle is occurring, Oxfam should be celebrating the rise in CO2, which is making it possible for plants to live in more arid conditions. In fact, to prevent rising CO2 could be interpreted as genocide, no? I love the smell of cognitive dissonance in the morning.

Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
May 22, 2016 12:46 am

On 20th night in the city of Hyderabad/India there was a thunderstorm-lightning-wind associated with cumulonimbus clouds. This uprooted trees, branches broke, advertizement poles uprooted. The advertizement pole near Checkpost on Road No. 2 Banjara Hills fell on cars/motarbikes parked there. On the road no. 1 Banjara Hills near GVK Mall pipeline broke open, with the gussing of water washed away cars moving on the road and further down to it a tree fell on cars.
Around my house greenery [I developed huge green cover in and around my house — this you can find the Google maps — was intact, not even a branch fell from the trees.
The root cause of these disasters were due to the selection plant species and poor quality water pipes. Thunder storms and cyclonic storms impact is common to these areas. This time the low pressure area moved northwards along the east coast by strengthening in to depreson, deep depression, cyclonic storm, severe cyclonic storm land fall took place in Bangladesh. Along the coast heavy down was recorded after a severe drought condition.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy

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