Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

An interesting pattern developed early in the official involvement in global warming. If a person challenged the claim that humans were causing global warming (AGW), it was assumed they were on the political right. If you supported AGW, then you were on the left. This categorization is not related to the science, but to the political nature of the science involved. This occurred in two major parts. The original objective of those using global warming for their political agenda and the marginalizing of those who questioned the science by linking them to industries and their wealthy owners. The author believes the evidence shows that human CO2 is not causing AGW, that the hypothesis is not proved. This article is not written to pick political sides. Rather, it is an attempt to help understand the battles waged and the confusion this created for the public, the politicians, the media, and a majority of scientists.
The world needed the new paradigm of environmentalism. The problem is that a few grabbed it for a political agenda. They used it as a vehicle to take the moral high ground, to claim only they cared about the environment. They argued that everyone else was guilty of environmental destruction because of their avarice and wasteful ways. The debate about global warming is a subset of environmentalism that was also hijacked using the same themes.
At the first Heartland Conference in New York in 2004 Vaclav Klaus twice Prime Minister of the Czech Republic was the keynote speaker. His opening remark that we have just gone through 70 years of communism so why the hell would you want to go back to that brought a standing ovation. It supports the fact that environmentalism and AGW is a political agenda pushed by extremely wealthy and powerful left wing people most of who made their money exploiting the environment. The psychology of that is beyond the discussion here, but consider the hypocrisy of George Soros, Maurice Strong, Bill Gates, the Rockefeller’s, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Ted Turner among many others.
Maurice Strong described himself as “a socialist in ideology, a capitalist in methodology”.
This description appears to apply to them all.
The confusion for the public that wealthy people are also socialists is similar to that about another person. Most people think Adolf Hitler was a right wing fascist, but he was a socialist who also promoted a form of environmentalism. The word “Nazi” stands for National Socialism.
Collectively, most of these wealthy socialists acted through their privileged group called the Club of Rome. The Club was formed in 1968 at David Rockefeller’s estate in Bellagio, Italy. In their 1994 book The First Global Revolution Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider wrote.
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
They claim the list of enemies is designed to unite people. In fact, it is needed to overcome what they see as the divisiveness of nation-states and to justify the establishment of one-world government or global socialism. They believe that global warming is a global problem that national governments cannot resolve. The changed behavior they want is for all to become socialists.
They finally settled on global warming as the environmental issue best suited for their goal. Of course, the plan was just the beginning. One of my favorite cartoons from the New Yorker showed Moses on the mountain with the Ten Commandments. The caption read “Great idea, who is going to fund it?” Global warming and the identification of human produced CO2 as the problem suited all the political, financial, and pseudo-religious controls a socialist group could desire.
The Kyoto Protocol was presented as a solution to the problem of human-caused global warming. Those who created the Protocol also created the problem. Through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) they produced the science required to support their claim. It is a well-thought out, well-planned, classic circular argument. One of the early examples occurred in the book Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment co-authored by Paul and Anne Ehrlich and President Obama’s current Science Advisor John Holdren. While discussing the non-existent problem of overpopulation they wrote,
Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.
The question is who “concluded that compulsory population-control” could be sustained? The answer is the authors did. The next question is who decides “if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society?” Again, it is the authors. So, they claim there is a problem, then they decide when it is severe enough to warrant complete suspension of legal controls against such totalitarianism.
More succinctly, they created the problem, created the proof of the problem, then offered the solution. This is what was done with the AGW claim. They assumed, incorrectly, that a CO2 increase causes a temperature increase. They then provided proof by programming computer models in which a CO2 increase caused a temperature increase. They ran the model(s) by doubling CO2, ceteris paribus. The results showed a temperature increase, which proved their claim. Now they could use CO2 as the lever for all their political objectives incorporated into the Kyoto Protocol. Science became the basis of blind faith.
In Kyoto, nations who developed their economies and became wealthy using CO2 were to pay for their sins by giving money to nations who suffered. It was a penance. Catholics paid penance for their sins which included a delay in their entrance to heaven. In the medieval Catholic church, you could buy Indulgences to bypass the punishment. Carbon Credits became the modern equivalent, and Al Gore was the equivalent of The Pardoner selling Indulgences as celebrated in Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales. With Indulgences and Carbon Credits there was no reduction in the sins. In fact, they encouraged more sins because you simply bought a pass – a get-out-of jail-free card.
Kyoto provided the political basis for the agenda. It was a classic redistribution of wealth that is the goal of a socialist government. Money from successful developed nations was given to less successful developing nations. To collect and redistribute the money required a government that overarched all nation-states. A single world government that managed a world banking system was the ideal. Temporarily the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund would suffice.
Kyoto provided the basis for the financial agenda. Money needed to fund the single world government was a global carbon tax. Many notable people, like Ralph Nader, claimed the tax was the best solution to stop climate change. Funding was part of the plan for the 2009 Copenhagen Conference of the Parties 15 (COP15). The COP can only act on the science provided by the IPCC. Apparently somebody knew the political agenda was based on false science and exposed it by leaking emails from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU). This worked because the scientists controlling the IPCC worked at, or with, the CRU. They controlled key chapters in IPCC Reports, including the instrumental data, the paleoclimate data, and the computer models. They also ensured their presence on the most influential document, the Summary for Policymakers (SPM). The Wegman Report that examined the dispute over the ‘hockey stick’ produced in the 2001 Report recognized the incestuous relationships of the research when they wrote,
Recommendation 1. Especially when massive amounts of public monies and human lives are at stake, academic work should have a more intense level of scrutiny and review. It is especially the case that authors of policy-related documents like the IPCC report, Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis, should not be the same people as those that constructed the academic papers.
The leaked information delayed the political process, but it was only temporary. The following year at COP16 in Durban they produced the replacement program called the Green Climate Fund (GCF). It was approved at COP21 in Paris in December 2015.
The process and method of setting up the AGW hypothesis through the UN paralleled those required to form a left wing or socialist government. It automatically identified those scientists who questioned the hypothesis as at least sympathetic to capitalism – guilt by association. It is part of today’s view that if you are not with me, you must be against me. Over the years, a few scientists told me they agreed with the skeptics but would not say so publicly because they were socialists.
Vaclav Klaus was one of the few world political leaders to identify what was going on. He recognized that global warming was a subset of environmentalism. He recognized that it was a blind faith belief system based on no evidence or, at best, manufactured evidence. In his book Blue Planet in Green Shackles, he wrote,
“it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a “noble” idea. It is not an honest pursuit of “sustainable development,” a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.”
The pattern of identifying those skeptical about the AGW hypothesis as right wing was an inevitable result of the political objective.
“Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”
I was double checking and verifying sources, and when perusing Ecoscience: Population, Resources and this quote, wherever it comes from, does not appear to come from this text.
http://wearechangect.org/wrcct-documents/18564724-Eco-Science-One-Variety-of-Highlights-from-Whole-Book.pdf
Jean Paul Zodeaux – here is a copy of the entire book. The .pdf document has 1649 pages, and the quote is on page 1280, although in the original document/book it is actually on page 837. “PAGENUMBER 837” can be seen on page 1279 of the .pdf document.
https://ia802705.us.archive.org/23/items/Ecoscience_17/JohnHoldren-Ecoscience.pdf
Why not promote CO2?
CO2 saved the planet! How CO2 re-greened the Earth
CO2 saves the poor! Helps crops grow for farmers in the 3rd world.
CO2 – helps you breathe better. (It’s what triggers us to breathe at all!)
CO2 – keeps polar bears breathing!
And the same for carbon. No, more so.
Carbon – without it your loved ones will die.
Carbon – without it X (all life – including polar bears) will die.
Save the polar bears get rid of evil Obama.
Obama hates polar bears!
Ah the possibilities are endless 😉
++++++100000000 !!!!!
http://s19.postimg.org/mkjk6feib/CO2_greening.jpg
Brilliant.
Can I print this off and put it in the window, please?
They assumed, incorrectly, that a CO2 increase causes a temperature increase.
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You will get yourself into trouble on this site if you make such claims. I happen to agree with you. There is no conclusive evidence that CO2 is causing the current warming. It might be causing the warming, but there are so many past examples of similar warming not being caused by CO2 that one cannot reject the null hypothesis.
I am yet to see a single example from the past of rapidly increasing CO2 being directly linked to rapidly increasing temperature on the time scales we are seeing today. Now maybe someone can show us just one example. Just a single one from the billions of years of earth’s history showing where a build up of CO2 over 50 years caused a similar increase in earth’s temperatures.
A single example. Anyone?
Because I can show a whole lot of examples where low CO2 caused rising temperatures and high CO2 caused falling temperatures. Here they are. When CO2 is low, temperatures start to rise. When CO2 is high, temperatures start to fall.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/400000yearslarge1.gif
“When CO2 is low, temperatures start to rise. When CO2 is high, temperatures start to fall.”
I prefer to point out that higher CO2 CANNOT SUSTAIN the higher temperature.
but same thing 🙂
And people need to realise that the low CO2 point on that graph, (around 180-200ppm) is the PLANT DEATH point for most plants.
At that point, they CEASE TO GROW, at all. !!! That is seriously SCARY !!!
Fred Burple:
“There is no conclusive evidence that CO2 is causing the current warming. It might be causing the warming, but there are so many past examples of similar warming not being caused by CO2 that one cannot reject the null hypothesis.”
http://phys.org/news/2015-02-carbon-dioxide-greenhouse-effect.html
http://cdn4.sci-news.com/images/enlarge/image_2541e-Greenhouse-Effect.jpg
Increasing CO2 and increasing forcing from that increase.
“I am yet to see a single example from the past of rapidly increasing CO2 being directly linked to rapidly increasing temperature on the time scales we are seeing today. Now maybe someone can show us just one example. Just a single one from the billions of years of earth’s history showing where a build up of CO2 over 50 years caused a similar increase in earth’s temperatures.”
There have been, I’m sure times in the geological past when volcanic CO2 and other GHG’s overwhelmed the biosphere.
However in the record so far discovered CO2 has acted as a feed-back. It followed rising temps as the Earth’s orbital eccentricities played out (Milankovitch cycles).
Co2 can both drive and feed-back. Normally (as above) it acts as a feed-back. Until anthro CO2 emissions. Now It is driving warming and not following.
And the comment “where a build up of CO2 over 50 years caused a similar increase in earth’s temperatures.” is precisely why it’s alarming, as we do not see it in the geological record. Because humans weren’t around to cause it.
Toneb,

Your charts are simply overlays. There is no cause an effect demonstrated. And they compare ‘forcing’ with CO2. ferd berple asked for CO2/T causation.
Ferd is right, there are plenty of charts showing the only verifiable causation, such as this one:
There are other decade long periods where CO2 and temperature are anti-corellated. So much for your claim that ∆CO2 causes ∆T. It clearly doesn’t, at least not to any measurable degree.
Here is another chart showing the only measured causation:
[click in charts to embiggen]
Note the Note in the chart: the cause of ∆CO2 is ∆temperature.
The CO2=AGW conjecture is so shot full of holes that it has been completely falsified. It is wrong; it’s simply a failed conjecture, and those who promoted it should admit that it has failed, then go back and try to formulate a conjecture that works. That’s what the Scientific Method requires.
But they refuse. Instead, they come up with endless explanations to try and rescue it. So at this point, CO2=AGW is no longer science, it’s politics.
“If an honest man is wrong, after demonstrating that he is wrong, he either stops being wrong or he stops being honest.”
Tone,
which is the cause and which is the effect of each of the two characteristics.
Communism was created by the same bankers who promote global warming. Same with Feminism, same with the SJW’s. There were Fourier Socialists who promoted a decentralized kibbutz style of communal living before Marx and his top down central bank version. The Cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt school all came from banking families. All designed to concentrate wealth and resources under oligarchy control. Another good place to look at what’s happening is the COMER vs Ministry of Finance lawsuit.
I was going to post –
“The common enemy of humanity is man.”
Can it get any more Orwellian than that? But several other commentors beat me to the punch.
Oh, well. I guess I can just keep the echo chamber resonating.
The common enemy of government is The People.
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Nicely put.
The common enemy of The People, is government.
The bigger your government, the smaller the people.
“The bigger your government, the smaller the people.”
… cause or effect; which is which
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Reblogged this on Climate Collections and commented:
When the Iron Curtain fell, the “Reds” dropped their red flags and picked up the green.
By bring in the right and left theory, we are harming the real issues of environment. Pollution is creating pollution. This in fact growing at non-linearly and affecting the environment — human health, water resources, etc. We must reduce the confusion.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
Completely disagree. Sure, we should tackle pollution but there really is no support for the suggestion that pollution ‘..is growing non-linearly’.
The modern pollutions that we are worrying about today are far less damaging than the old pollutions our population faced in the days before the technological revolution. Only because we can now afford to set the bar so much higher do we behold the illusion that things are getting worse. Precisely the opposite is true. It’s really the same illusion that constantly updates the old scares about increasingly scarce resources, and the same DELUSION that motivates the whole thing, from the Club of Rome down to Leonardo di Caprio. It is very human to think these things .. it’s just not true.
mothcatcher — sorry sir, it is not so. In the ancient time cooking pollution only. Now with the chemical input agriculture technology & industries, water pollution causing severe health hazards and reduction in the potable water availability. Chemical input technology created food pollution that introduced new diseases. Air pollution, there are several ways. To cure health hazards related to pollution [air, water, soil & food] started drug manufacturing industry, polluting activity — hospitals are created, polluting activity. These are creating new diseases. Again new pollution. The vicious circle goes on — this is non-linear increase in pollution and thus health hazards. Whether rich or poor are affected by the pollution.
In USA MIssissippi river with its agriculture pollution created dead zone in Gulf of Mexico. The might river Ganga is polluted, government is spending lakhs of crores of rupees on this. In my own place [Hyderabad] all most all water bodies and ground water is contaminated with pollution and River Musi became a cesspool of poison. Using the water from this river, crops are grown — milk is fetched and supplied to Hyderbad city.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
Dr Reddy –
Yep, some parts of the world have some catching up to do.
Dr Reddy, I would respectfully submit that, while it is true that there is chemical pollution from industrial waste in the Ganga (Ganges) River, there is also a very significant amount of pollution from untreated sewage, dead bodies, ashes from cremations, and sick people bathing in the river. These latter activities have been going on for thousands of years – since ancient times. So I don’t think that you can blame all the pollution on “modern” activities such as agricultural technology and the building of hospitals.
Just like weather/climate pollution is a local problem, but pollution is a problem everywhere. If the $trillions wasted studying CO2 (it has not, nor do I believe it ever will be “controlled”) were applied to real pollution problems we could all be much better off.
Monna,
and it seems that they have also known about the hazards of pollution for a long time too (… well, at least in the Kippling tales).
BILLY FISH: Enemies all around. The Bashkai are worst. All towncome out and pisses downstream when we go bathing.
The only reason governments keep people around is they need someone to pay the taxes. If governments ever figures out how to collect taxes from machines, people will very quickly be replaced.
Sheesh, and I thought I was a cynic.
Last I heard the government employees work at the pleasure of the taxpayers.
Might be time to remind them of that fact.
Thanks to the EU, we are already in a situation where unproductive workers outnumber productive workers by as much as four to one. (I include designers etc doing paperwork as productive workers, unproductive are those who simply exist to fill in forms or ensure compliance with regulations.) If it were not for machines boosting the output of the productive few we’d have gone bust long ago.
Time for Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B, then
First government prints money, okay because it’s backed by foreign investors, right? Then they pass out the fresh money, trillions in all, only to those who support and befriend government. When the successful get hold of that money it is forcibly taken, called taxation, to be given back to friends of government. That is the cycle of our current socialism.
I would definitely endorse Environmentalism and Global Warming Belief as being Religious Totalitarianism. Socialism normally leads to Totalitarianism as did Communism, as people start to see that the system (read CAGW) is not working for the masses, but only for a small elite, who have to introduce terror to control the masses and enforce the system.
I recently read a fascinating explanation of how the Nazi salute originated.
Apparently it was the ‘opposite’ of the clenched fist salute that the ‘eco warriors’ in your picture are using!
Nazi salute has its origins in Ancient Rome, where it was meant to symbolize that the greeter bears no arms. Clenched fist has always been used by communists – right from their beginnings, to this day…green is the new red, so why change things…
CAGW is a political phenomenon, not a physical one.
Scientifically, the CAGW hypothesis has already been disconfirmed, because CAGW projections already exceed reality by a sufficient disparity (2+ standard deviations) and duration (20 years) for official disconfirmation under the rules of the Scientific Method.
CAGW alarmists have so far gotten away with adjusting the raw data to artificially meet CAGW projections, rather than adjusting the hypothesis to match the empirical evidence…
The alarmists are quickly running out of time and wiggle room, and their desperation is palpable. The poll numbers of taxpayers that still think CAGW is a serious existential threat are falling. As the CAGW disparity and duration continues to increase unabated, it’s only a matter of time before further adjustments may become legally actionable under malfeasance of public fund laws.
Because of various natural climate factors now taking effect, in about 5 years, the disparity and duration will likely increase to 3 standard deviations for 25 years, which is when scientists outside of climatology will have no other choice but to expose the incongruities between CAGW hypothetical projections and actual observations.
CAGW is at the beginning of its demise.
Hopefully the collapse of CAGW will enlighten people to the overall ideological failures of Socialism, which requires false agendas and the initiation of force to gain unwarranted control, power and money over the people it rules…
“CAGW alarmists have so far gotten away with adjusting the raw data to artificially meet CAGW projections,”
I could be mistaken, but I believe even the adjusted data fail to meet the IPCC model projections.
There are always some gullible enough to believe that correlation is causation. CAGW, once sufficiently debunked, will be replaced with another red herring. Human history is never without authoritarians wanting to control/exploit everyone else. They will always find some boogeyman to exploit for their selfish goals.
Environmentalism is indeed a code for living by for many people these days, for whom it has replaced religion. In principle that’s not a bad thing, but what’s happened is that a few clever people have basically emulated Hitler and his hijacking of the NSP, by hijacking the environmentalist movement into supporting their climate scam. If the victims of this deception stopped for a moment and thought about it, the climate scam actually has about as much to do with environmentalism as extermination camps have to do with socialism.
nothing eposed the CAGW agenda better than this recent Thomson Reuters’ piece.
18 Feb: Thomson Reuters Foundation: Help at hand for countries desperately seeking climate cash
Several big international funds, including the U.N. Green Climate Fund, are trying to dole out billions of dollars to countries and communities to help them tackle climate change by adapting to extreme weather and adopting renewable energy.
But most government officials and smaller institutions simply do not know how to access this money, experts say. Meeting the funds’ conditions is often laborious…
***High standards are needed to ensure the money is spent well and in line with funds’ policies on gender equality, for example…
(Reporting by Alisa Tang, editing by Megan Rowling. Please credit the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers humanitarian news, women’s rights, corruption and climate change.)
http://www.reuters.com/article/climatechange-asia-funding-idUSL3N15W3SZ
Reuters, with their Point Carbon, now Carbon Pulse, is basically climate central, yet only an African website and UNCCC carried the above, despite all MSM being subscribers to Reuters.
the above piece also explains the MSM’s obsession with identity politics, the claim women and the poor are the most vulnerable to CAGW, and their insistence that CAGW is a left/right thing (huh?).
Good article so far as the socio-political analysis goes. But this bothered me, “The author believes the evidence shows that human CO2 is not causing AGW, that the hypothesis is not proved.”
In science and statistics, we do not prove hypotheses. We disprove the null hypothesis, which for climate science is the hypothesis that climate fluctuations are driven by natural factors.
On presently available evidence, we cannot reject the null hypothesis and therefor we cannot accept the alternative hypothesis that the activities of mankind are driving secular climate change, secular global warming.
On presently available evidence, we can observe that the climate has fluctuated before and after the industrial revolution. But we cannot accept the hypothesis that climate has changed and will continue to change in one direction on the scale of centuries because we have too short a period for which we have reliable data.
We cannot reject the hypothesis that natural drivers of climate have had and will continue to have more impact on the climate system than mankind.
The religious beliefs that support AGW go back even before the Greek concept of hubris to the belief systems of the Near and Middle East that predate both Moses and Abraham. The myth of the Tower of Babel is an example of the inclination towards belief in retribution for departing from religious notions of the proper place of mankind.
The fable of Cain and Abel is similar in its message: the evil farmer (Cain) has killed the good nomadic herder (Abel). The religious message was that farming goes against nature but nomadic herders comply with nature.
I note that the promoters of the Gaia religion are those whose economic and financial status is not threatened by policies that would reverse the growth in living standards of the middle class. Those who regard themselves as the elite among us seem to share nostalgia for the way things were before the industrial revolution when people were more respectful of their betters, when servants and workers did what they were told, nostalgia for the days when it cost so little to engage a plumber, an electrician, a maid and gardener because so few alternative employment opportunities existed until the industrial revolution.
For let there be no mistake, the consequence of radically reducing the use of fossil fuels will be to reduce the living standards of most people in most countries. If the industrial nations succeed in radically reducing the emission of CO2, only the financially independent will enjoy security for themselves and be confident that their children will do the same.
“On presently available evidence, we cannot reject the null hypothesis” Not everyone agrees.
Lovejoy has rejected the null hypothesis you describe.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00382-014-2128-2
seaice1:
NO! Lovejoy has NOT rejected the Null Hypothesis; he has only said he has.
Without evidence I would not accept that he or anybody else had rejected the climate Null Hypothesis, or they had flown a glider to the Moon, or anything else.
You are making the false claim that Lovejoy has rejected the Null Hypothesis so YOU have the responsibility to justify your claim. That responsibility requires YOU to read your link then to report back saying the observation of Lovejoy which YOU are claiming refutes the Null Hypothesis.
Richard
“The fable of Cain and Abel is similar in its message: the evil farmer (Cain) has killed the good nomadic herder (Abel). The religious message was that farming goes against nature but nomadic herders comply with nature.”
It’s sure as shootin’ not the “religious message” I got from that scripture, and I recommend folks not fall for such fanciful declarations about what the Book is “really” telling us. Might as well believe it was a denouncement of all people who’s name starts with a “C’ . . ; )
Climatism is a culture. Literally, with everything from how to live your life, beliefs, religion, outlook and even diet. Only as a cultural shift could it gain any traction. To that end, it fits progressive and socialist thinking perfectly.
It is designed to do so, to tap into the macro cultures already out there, and combine them.
Self hating humans, socialists, control freaks, intellectual bean counters, progressives and environmentalists. All rolled up into one.
It is also one of money, not many poor people buy into this culture because when you are poor, you feel the effects of this culture first hand, well educated and cushy living standard progressives and the political class, all have pretty cushy living standards, they all drive travel and buy into consumerism in a big way.. and assuage this guilt by shouting about climate change
I acknowledge the President has the right to nominate a replacement for the late Justice Scalia but, if his nominee, or one of his nominess, is confirmed, it would mean President Obama will have appointed fully a third of the Justices on the Supreme Court.
can’t recall any articles defending the President’s right to appoint the new Justice mentioning this!
17 Feb: Bloomberg: Observers: Without Scalia, Clean Power Plan’s Odds Boosted
By Anthony Adragna, From Energy and Climate Report
“It’s an amazing sequence of events,” Jody Freeman, a professor at Harvard Law School, told Bloomberg BNA. “The Clean Power Plan proponents got the news of the stay and then suddenly Justice Scalia died and everything turned upside down.”…
One factor that could impact the case is whether Senate Republicans follow through on their threat not to consider anyone President Barack Obama nominates to the Supreme Court during the remainder of his presidency…
If an Obama or a nominee appointed by a future Democratic president made it onto the court, that justice could provide a crucial fifth vote to uphold the regulation, attorneys said. A Republican appointee might keep the current court balance that was seen as likely to overturn the regulation…
Beyond the impact to ongoing litigation, Scalia’s death and the apparent unwillingness from Senate Republicans to consider a replacement will likely help elect a Democratic president willing to appoint a justice favorable to the Clean Power Plan, Paul Bledsoe, a former White House energy aide under Democrat Bill Clinton, said…
http://www.bna.com/observers-without-scalia-n57982067390/
14 Feb: E&E News: Evan Lehmann: SUPREME COURT: Scalia’s death plunges campaigns, climate cases into chaos
(Reporter Jeremy Jacobs contributed)
The death of Justice Antonin Scalia instantly infused the presidential race with sharpened urgency and increased optimism among Democrats that the president’s climate initiatives would survive legal challenges…
Paul Bledsoe, a former climate aide under President Clinton, predicted that a prolonged delay to vote by the Senate could “backfire politically” at the height of an election year.
He also sees brighter days ahead for Obama’s executive actions on climate change.
“The court’s stay of the Clean Power Plan now seems even more a case of partisan overreach,” Bledsoe said in an email, adding, “the likelihood that the CPP will be upheld by the court has just increased dramatically.”
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060032372/print
Tim Ball:
Your above polemical rant is a classic collection of falsehoods and misrepresentations of which Goebbels would have been proud.
It starts by presenting this set of unsubstantiated – because they are untrue – claims
The original “political agenda” was right wing (n.b. not left wing) and was rapidly adopted by people, parties and countries of all political persuasions. Marginalisation of opponents is a common political action used by all political activists and is called ‘negative campaigning’.
The scientific hypothesis of global warming had existed for a century and was ignored by almost everyone because the nineteenth century calculations indicated that global temperature would rise by about 1°C but it had not. Then, in 1979 the right wing Margaret Thatcher came to power as UK PM, and for personal reasons immediately upon taking power she raised global warming to become a major international policy issue. Why and how she did that can be read here.
So, in reality,
An interesting pattern developed early in the official involvement in global warming. If a person challenged the claim that humans were causing global warming (AGW), it was assumed they were Thatcherite (i.e. on the political right). If you supported AGW, then you were on the right. This categorization was not related to the science, but to the politician promoting the science involved.
The USA sensibly took little interest in global warming for nearly two decades after the scare had taken hold in much of the world. The reason for this is same as the reason why other countries adopted the scare. Thatcher had generated the global warming scare by campaigning about global warming at each summit meeting, and overseas politicians began to take notice of Mrs Thatcher’s campaign if only to try to stop her disrupting meetings, so they brought the matter to the attention of their civil servants for assessment. The civil servants reported that – although scientifically dubious – ‘global warming’ could be economically important. The USA was the world’s most powerful economy and was the most intensive energy user. If all countries adopted ‘carbon taxes’, or other universal proportionate reductions in industrial activity, each non-US industrialised country would gain economic benefit over the USA. So, many politicians from many countries joined with Mrs Thatcher in expressing concern at global warming and a political bandwagon began to roll.
Throughout this time the global warming scare ceased being a right-wing issue and became an all-party concern: the rewards for gaining economic benefit over the USA would be obtained by all other countries at the cost of the USA. To this day the global warming scare remains an issue that is opposed and is supported by people and Parties across the entire political spectrum. For example, communist China put a ‘death blow’ into the scare at the Copenhagen climate conference in December 2009.
But USA sensibly ignored the scare. Any USA response would involve the USA in consideration of involvement in activities intended to gain economic benefit by all other countries over the USA and at the cost of the USA.
Then Democrat Al Gore attempted to revive his failed political ambitions by making a poor sci-fi movie that scare-mongered about global warming. Released in 2006 the propagandist nature of the film is demonstrated by this promotion of the movie that says
Al Gore’s “life long commitment to reversing the effects of global climate change”? The global warming scare did not exist prior to 1980 and Gore was born in 1948!
The claim of Al Gore’s “life long commitment” is clearly and unarguably a falsehood. Indeed, it is as clearly and unarguably as false as your claim that “early in the official involvement in global warming” “a person” who “challenged the claim that humans were causing global warming (AGW)” “was assumed” to be “on the political right.”
Americans responded to Al Gore’s climate campaign by being pro and anti Gore: i.e. by aligning according to left and right wing affiliations. This uniquely US alignment of pro-AGW being left wing and anti-AGW being right wing occurred late in global warming scare and has not been adopted elsewhere.
The remainder of your lengthy article is built on the falsehoods I have here refuted and – being based on falsehood – they are almost all also false.
Richard
I love the way socialists define everything they disagree with as being right wing.
Which just proves to them that socialism is perfect.
I wish someone could explain to me how a system that takes money from those who work and uses it to buy votes from those who don’t want to work, is supposed to promote “freedom”.
PS: You have refuted nothing, just made more naked assertions bases on a belief that anyone who disagree with is right wing.
MarkW:
It seems you are as ignorant of your own country’s history as you are of politics.
The left/right split on the AGW issue uniquely exists in the USA and it is recent.
In 1997 the US Senate unanimously voted to not sign the Kyoto Protocol or anything like it. This was the Byrd–Hagel Resolution that was agreed by a majority of 95–0.
As I explain in my above post this US bi-partisan political unanimity on AGW ceased with the release of Al Gore’s sci-fi movie in 2006.
If there is anything else you want to know then please ask me and I will attempt the Herculean task of trying to educate you.
Also, socialists do NOT define anything they don’t like as being right wing. For example, communism is a left wing political philosophy that socialists oppose. In reality, it is the extreme right (i.e. fascists) who pretend everything their history exposes about them is left wing (e.g. see the very first post in this thread and which is by somebody calling himself Andrew).
Richard
I love the way Richard actually believes that he is the standard by which truth must be measured.
That the senators in 1997 knew that staying in office was more important than supporting the Kyoto protocol is not evidence that leftists as a whole aren’t committed to the AGW meme today.
Socialists don’t admit to defining everything they dislike as right wing, but just read what they write, and it is obvious that this what they do.
You are a perfect example of this.
MarkW:
I know that fascists are not noted for logical statements, but your latest non sequitur is even more laughable than your usual offerings.
The above essay by Tim Ball is based on a claim that
My post explained that those assertions are the precise opposite of the historical reality.
You responded with untrue and irrelevant fascist propaganda and added
So, I replied
And your response says in its entirety
But my post demonstrated I think evidence is the standard by which truth must be measured: that is why I cited the evidence of the Byrd–Hagel Resolution.
Despite that, you claim I assert myself as being the standard by which truth must be measured. In other words, you ignore my answer to you and assert that I behave as you – and and all other fascists – behave.
Importantly, you pretend that the fact of the unanimous Senate vote in 1997 does not demonstrate bipartisan unanimity and you ignore the fact that the bipartisan unity ended in 2006 with Al Gore’s movie.
Simply, fascists attempt to define everything you dislike as left wing, and everything you write says you do.
Richard
As always, Richard makes naked assertions and expects everyone to bow down and worship them.
It really is fascinating how Richard declares that anyone to the right of him is a fascist.
I guess it’s easier than actually thinking for yourself. Once you convince yourself that your opponents are less than human, rounding them up into the camps becomes that much easier. It’s the socialist way.
MarkW:
I see you again think that falsehoods and insults refute facts, evidence and information. And you are being juvenile when you claim that facts, evidence and information are merely assertions.
I yet again point out that I do NOT think everyone to the right of me is a fascist.
I yet again point out that YOU have repeatedly demonstrated and YOU repeatedly demonstrate that YOU are a fascist.
Richard
… What planet do you live on ?
Basic Socialist motivation is to spread wealth more evenly.
So all this talk about wealthy socialists is so much hot air.
The reality is that since WW2 the top 1% have seen a massive increase in wealth at the expense of the rest of the population .
Some socialism!!!!!
The rich avoid paying taxes and once middle class professions (like scientists) are reduced to average or lower average incomes.
Bankers walk away with million pound bonuses after wreaking their banks and pass on the bill to ordinary taxpayers.
Britain now has extensive networks of charity food banks.
This slip into absolute poverty was unheard of just 10 years ago.
Now in the USA there is a left/right split on the question of increased CO2 in the atmosphere.
However most people in the UK would regard the american Democratic Party as being on the right wing of the British political spectrum
Was GW Bush a left winger?
What was his opinion about CAGW?
The effects of increased atmospheric CO” a question of science and will one day be settled.
To say its a left wing plot is just a right wing rant.
Articles like this do nothing to build an alternative narrative to the CAGW .
I’m glad that in the UK there is no such left/right split on the question.
Typo
The effects of increased atmospheric CO” should be
The effects of increased atmospheric CO2
Bryan:
You say
Yes!
My post now in moderation explains how and why the “left/right split” uniquely exists in the USA.
Richard
Look forward to reading it !
This is rubbish at many levels, it doesn’t matter to the greater theme of expanded statism that there were cross political currents over the long history of green inspired AGW claims. That happens.
Dr. Ball correctly labels the PRIMARY leftist nature of AGW activism. If there are rightist who make counter claims, say anti-coal Union purposes under Thatcher etc. these were trivial to scheming of academics desperate to get their claws into big energy by creating a human “problem” to rationalize government authority on a planetary scale, similar to monetary authority or socialism in general.
cwon14:
The “rubbish” is from you.
Right-wing Margaret Thatcher created the AGW-scare. Her reasons for promoting the matter internationally were personal. Opposition to UK coal unions was not pertinent to – and could not be pertinent to – her promotion of AGW as an international issue.
You admit that right-wing Margaret Thatcher created the AGW-scare but assert with no supporting evidence of any kind that “Dr. Ball correctly labels the PRIMARY leftist nature of AGW activism.”
I can and do assure you that every Brit who lived through the 1980s knows nothing Margaret Thatcher initiated was of a “PRIMARY leftist nature”.
Richard
Byron,
There is almost no “right” left in England in elected office. It’s a reflection of statist decline of Europe as whole. That there were willing facilitators in US Republicans are obvious but it doesn’t change the broad point of the article.
Ooops!
Obviously, in my post now in moderation, I intended my first summarising para. to say
So, in reality,
An interesting pattern developed early in the official involvement in global warming. If a person challenged the claim that humans were causing global warming (AGW), it was assumed they were on the political left . If you supported AGW, then you were assumed to be be Thatcherite (i.e. on the political right). This categorization is not related to the science, but to the politician promoting the science involved.
Sorry for the error.
Richard
And, largely missed, is the fact that liberals tend to take government jobs….bureaucrats…..and tend to take University positions at much higher rates than conservatives. It fits their brain to not take risks, except with other people’s money and it allowed the dogmatic global warming to infiltrate down to five year olds who are now worried that eating meat is sucking all of the water out of the ground. I can’t even watch a children’s show with my daughter without pores reeking it for crap political proselytizing.
..And as teachers unfortunately !
Prescreening……what is this spell check auto changing?
Totally and very off topic, but EVERY Aussie out there needs to see this poll from 2GB and Andrew Bolt
(sorry AW, but this is a political thread 😉 )
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Please remember one of wattsup blogs I reblogged earlier this year: But, since the middle of 2005 (that would be slightly over 10 years), the arctic sea ice area anomaly has been oscillating steadily at right around -1.0 million sq kilometers. So, whatever 70 year cycle or natural change or polar bear shitte piles caused it to “change” from its 1979-1990 average of +1.0 Mkm^2 to -1.0 Mkm^2, the effect has NOT done ANYTHING to further melt arctic sea ice since 2005. In fact for almost all of the past 18 months, arctic sea ice area has been hovering right at the -2 std deviation levels all the time. Not increasing to be sure, but not decreasing either.True facts presented in comments of “Gosh a new model based study puts temperature increases caused by CO2 emissions on the map, Wattsup with that 2016/01/20 Have all the money gone to find a model supporting CO2-believers beliefs….. ?????
A further suggestion to add to the writer’s article is that my experience of sitting on a UK county council committee was that the warmists seemed to be Arts Graduates who had no conception of what electricity was so thought that it must be stored like water or gas so wind ‘farms’ were our saviour. As for the CO2 effect then they just accepted the ‘scientists’ view as being right. Here as in the U.S. (I think) most universities adopt a left wing stance on just about everything thanks to the infiltration of communists in the early post war decades.
If Socialism – the ‘far left’ variety – was the answer to all our environmental concerns and the solution to AGW, then the pre-1989 East Germany would have been a paradise on Earth and the world and his wife would have been beating a path to its borders. The fact that Erich Honecker and his chums laid waste to a large part of the planet, and then ‘imprisoned’ the populace of that sad, polluted state says it all, for me.