Greenland retained 99.7% of its ice mass in 20th Century!!!

(Featured image borrowed from http://www.clipartbest.com)

 

Naturally, the Real Clear Science headline actually read…

Greenland Lost 9 Trillion Tons of Ice in Century

Which sounds even more serious than the original headline…

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Greenland has lost 9,000 billion tons of ice in a century

One would think that the fact that 99.7% of Greenland’s ice sheet survived the 20th Century might just be more scientifically relevant than a 0.3% loss… But I guess that doesn’t make for a very dramatic headline.

Here’s the math…

First I converted 9 trillion tons to metric tonnes.

9,000,000,000,000 tons = 8,164,662,660,000 tonnes

Then I converted tonnes to gigatonnes.

8,164,662,660,000 tonnes = 8,165 gigatonnes

Then I converted  gigatonnes of ice to cubic kilometers, assuming 1 Gt = 1 km3.

8,165 Gt ~ 8,165 km3

Note: This conversion is inexact because ice is slightly less dense than water.  But it is close enough for this exercise.

Now that I roughly knew the volume of ice loss during the 20th century, I needed to know how much ice volume was still in place. I chose to rely on the USGS and their figure of 2,600,000 km3.

So now I could calculate the percentage of ice volume which survived the 20th century…

The ice volume at the onset of the 20th century should be…

2,600,000 km3 + 8,165 km3 = 2,608,165 km3

Converting to percentage surviving the 20th century…

2,600,000 km3 / 2,608,165 km3 = 0.997 = 99.7%

 

To put the math into perspective, I’m going to actually rely on the SkepScibots

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1 gigatonne of ice is big… Much bigger than an Olympic sized swimming pool.

So, throughout the 20th century, Greenland lost about 8,165 gigatonne ice cubes.  8,165 km3 equates to a 20 km x 20 km x 20 km cube of ice (3√ 8,165 = 20.136565).  That would be one big@$$ cube of ice!

However, it’s not even a tiny nick when spread out over roughly 1.7 million square kilometers of ice surface.  That works out a sheet of ice about 5 meters thick.

 

2,600,000 km3 / 1,700,000 km2 = 1.53 km

The average thickness of the Greenland ice sheet is approximately 1.5 km (1,500 meters).  5 meters is obviously 0.3% of 1,500 meters.

Greenland Map
Isopach map of Greenland ice sheet (Wikipedia).  The “Lost Ice Cube” represents 8,165 cubic kilometers of ice.

 

From a thickness perspective, 5 meters looks like this…

 

Greenland Xsect
Radar Cross Section of Greenland Ice Sheet (Source: Columbia University).  Note that even with a vertical exaggeration of 75 x, 5 meters is insignificant.

The red line along the top of the cross section is approximately 5 meters thick. Here is an enlarged view…

Greenland xsect2

While my math may not be exact, estimates of the volume of the Greenland ice sheet vary from 2.6 to 5.5 × 106 km3.  The difference between 2.6 and 5.5 million cubic kilometers of ice is quite a bit larger than 9,000 gigatonnes.  For that matter, GRACE derived estimates of recent (2003-2011) ice mass balance vary widely as do the glacial isostatic adjustments…

For the analyzed period, the ice mass balance of Greenland and the corresponding GIA correction are, respectively, − 256 ± 21 Gt yr−1 and − 3 ± 12 Gt yr−1 (1%) for SM09, − 253 ± 23 Gt yr−1 and − 6 ± 5 Gt yr−1 (2%) for AW13, and − 189 ± 27 Gt yr−1 and − 69 ± 19 Gt yr−1(36%) for Wu10 (table 1). At the regional scale, the ice mass estimates are more dependent on the GIA correction, especially in NE Greenland where the Wu10-GIA correction is the largest portion of the signal measured by GRACE (table 1).

From Sutterley et al., 2014

With ~±10% margins of error in modern satellite measurements of glacial mass balance and GIA accounting for up to 1/3 of the reported ice mass loss, it is truly amazing that a 0.3% reduction in the Greenland ice sheet during the 20th century can be identified with such robustness [/Sarc].

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December 30, 2015 10:22 pm

First off, nobody knows for sure how much snow and ice was on Greenland 110 years ago. It does make sense that there would be some loss of ice over the past 100 years because we know for a fact that the 16, 17 and 1800s were colder than the 1900s. Our local records show the big warm up came in about 1890, long before there were coal fired power plants and a fleet of automobiles.

Reply to  Robert Grise
December 31, 2015 2:35 am

Wrong, Michael Mann has a very accurate alogarithm which can calculate Greenland ice tonnages from tree ring growth of some tree in northern Russia.
And what could be more accurate than that?

Duncan
Reply to  Robert Grise
December 31, 2015 7:08 am

Robert, warmer climate could also mean more snow, more accumulation, if that volume exceeds the melt as your theory goes

December 31, 2015 4:15 am

An isopachous map like that can’t be planimetered to a volume within an error of +/- 0.3%. I wish they would show their work on the original claim (9 trillion tonnes lost!) as you have.

Proud Skeptic
December 31, 2015 4:34 am

0.3% sounds like it is well within the likely margin of error. More meaningless “evidence”.

CR Carlson
December 31, 2015 5:34 am

This Washington Post frontpage headline takes the cake. The sky is really falling this time. Run for your lives!;0
Cataclysms from the North Pole to South America
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/freakish-weather-runs-from-top-of-the-world-to-the-bottom/2015/12/30/61203efa-af2c-11e5-b711-1998289ffcea_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_northpole-846pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

December 31, 2015 5:35 am

December 31, still close to the Winter Solstice, and still no sign of the Sun even at 630am in Calgary.
At the Winter Solstice the Sun has illuminated the central chamber at Newgrange, County Meath in Ireland for five thousand winters, and yet I still cannot buy a glimmer of sunrise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange
Best wishes and a Happy New Year to all.
– Allan
Fire And Ice
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice,
– Robert (“Jack”) Frost

Carlie Coats
December 31, 2015 6:12 am

I don’t match your arithmetic on sea-level rise: the volume DV of a sea-level rise
by DR is approximately DR=0.7*4*PI*R^2, assuming 70% ocean-coverage on
the Earth. Given DV=8.2E3 KM^3 and solving for DR, I get
DR = 8.2e3/(0.7*4*PI*6371^2) = 2.297e-5
is about 2.3 cm.
FWIW

2PetitsVerres
December 31, 2015 7:25 am

> “With ~±10% margins of error in modern satellite measurements of glacial mass balance and GIA accounting for up to 1/3 of the reported ice mass loss, it is truly amazing that a 0.3% reduction in the Greenland ice sheet during the 20th century can be identified with such robustness.”
If I collect the yearly production of apple in the entire world in one gigantic box, I probably cannot tell you how many apples are in the box. But if I eat two of them, I can tell you precisely how many I have taken out. And it’s much less than 0.3%. The precision of the measurement of quantity and flux are not necessarily linked.

tommoriarty
December 31, 2015 9:56 am

One gigatonne of melted land ice raises the oceans by about 2.8 microns. Consequently, 9000 gigatonnes raises the oceans by 25,200 microns, or 2.52 cm. Less than one inch.
see…
https://climatesanity.wordpress.com/conversion-factors-for-ice-and-water-mass-and-volume/

Denis Ables
December 31, 2015 11:57 am

WTF ? We are, after all, between ice ages. Should it be surprising that during any period within this interglacial Greenland should be losing a bit of ice? It’s the old story. The alarmists believe everything will be okay if there’s no ice lost. (But doesn’t that mean we’re into the next ice age?)

Newsel
December 31, 2015 3:04 pm

Read it and weep: it matters not what the reality is, follow the money! Ca., Oregon and Washington State are set to screw the residents, and they vote for it. Go figure the stupidity of these brainwashed greeners!
http://www.carbontax.org/states/

co2islife
January 1, 2016 6:10 am

In this clip from The Changing Climate of Global Warming Al Gore claims that “within 10 years there will be no more Snows of Kilimanjaro.” Does anyone have any recent data on the Mt Kilimanjaro glacier, and how much is still left? It has been 10 years since he made this movie was made. Was Al Gore correct? If not, our High School Students are being shown a film that can now be proven to be highly inaccurate.
https://youtu.be/QowL2BiGK7o?t=50m33s

co2islife
January 1, 2016 6:17 am

Sorry, I tagged the wrong clip, and the quote is “within the decade” meaning by 2010, so if there is any glacier on top of Mt Kilimanjaro Al Gore was wrong. Here is the correct clip.
https://youtu.be/QowL2BiGK7o?t=53m55s

co2islife
January 1, 2016 6:20 am

Mount Kilimanjaro glaciers nowhere near extinction
ADAM IHUCHA, SPECIAL ETN APR 06, 2014
The legendary glaciers, one of key tourists ecstasy, on Tanzania’s majestic Kilimanjaro mountain, will not melt anytime soon after all, as it was earlier predicted.
Kilimanjaro glaciers just won’t die – ‘nowhere near extinction’
Anthony Watts / April 7, 2014
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/07/kilimanjaro-glaciers-just-wont-die-nowhere-near-extinction/

January 1, 2016 9:07 am

Thanks, David Middleton, for this very good article bringing more common sense to the debate.
Polar ice seems to have staying power, and I hope it doesn’t start growing again.

January 2, 2016 11:30 am

If you actually look at NASA satellite pictures you’ll find that your claims are about as misguided as it’s possible to be.

Reply to  Stewart Harding
January 3, 2016 4:15 pm

Did not the Volume of the Arctic Ice Cap increase in 2015; and the Area of the Arctic Ice Sheet decrease in 2015? I believe so according to NASA and the European Space Agency. This would leave direction of Climate Change an Open Question in REAL Science. Now can we focus on the really serious issue of Air and Water Pollution on this Good Earth?

January 3, 2016 4:05 pm

I have read that the Arctic Ice Sheet is curently smaller than ‘Normal’; and I have also read that the Arctic Cap Ice Volume is larger than ‘Normal’. As best I recall, it was from the same or similar creditable source. This would indicate to this R&D STEM Type, that the current direction of Climate Change is still an “Open Question” of REAL Science. In any case, in my view, Global Air and Water Pollution is the real basic issue.(?)