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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Pope Francis, addressing members of the press while travelling on his chartered jet plane, has stated that the world is headed toward “suicide” if there is no climate agreement at the COP21 conference.
According to Reuters;
Francis, who visited Kenya, Uganda and the Central African Republic, also said the continent was “a martyr of exploitation” by wealthy countries who lust after its natural resources and try to impose Western values instead of concentrating on development.
The pope was asked if the U.N. climate summit in Paris would mark a turnaround in the fight against global warming.
“I am not sure, but I can say to you ‘now or never’,” he said. “Every year the problems are getting worse. We are at the limits. If I may use a strong word I would say that we are at the limits of suicide.“
Read more http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/30/us-climatechange-summit-pope-idUSKBN0TJ2FY20151130#L8vkviEg7TtoBrK4.99
I wish I had my own plane, though my dream is a little more modest than the Pope’s CO2 belching Alitalia jet.
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Looming catastrophes
Pope Francis needs to study the Revelation from Jesus Christ (not atheistic “science” advisors) – where people will seek death from the sun turning black – and from demonic oppression – not from hotter climate! vis
Revelation 6:12-17; Revelation 9:1-11
Asteroid impact will likely cause far greater damage than a foot or so rise in ocean levels from anthropogenic warming (aka “climate change”).
Revelation 8:8-9
https://youtu.be/4Yn2eMnhnfw
House committee on Paris Climate Change foolery !!!
I was raised Catholic and even though I am no longer Catholic I still had a lot of respect for the Pope. Until this one. I find little Spiritual about him. He is locked into the secular world. But I’m afriad he may not even realize it.
But I’m afriad he may not even realize it. He hopes you will believe that. It gives him cover.
This Pope is becoming a pest. He is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier I’m sick of reading about his witterings. Time he stuck to what little he knows.
So why do you persist in continuing to reading about what you call his withering. If you are that sick the answer is simple; just stop doing it.
The pope is as severely wrong as the previous chapter of the Catholic hierarchy covering up for priests.
How can such a well intended institution go so far off the tracks?
He may as well be calling for world wide communism to save us killing ourselves.
Nuts on a grand scale.
Well intentioned? The Church has had a very long history of agitating against Jews. Now almost forgotten since it is an inconvenient truth.
How about a very long history of agitating against anyone not Catholic, let’s see, the Inquisition, the reign of Mary I, complicity in the extermination of Jews and Gypsies 1939-1944 … just to name a few
It seems to me there’s a reason Roman Catholic doctrines called for suppressing the Book for centuries, actually killing some people for translated it into languages the common folk could read (or understand if read to them), or for even possessing portions of such translations . . and still does not encourage it’s followers to actually read it themselves. I think most people would be shocked if they learned how weak the Biblical case is for any sort of “Pope” ruling over Christianity. It’s not even as strong as the scientific case for a CO2 induced climate catastrophe, to me anyway.
Remember when the left thought that religion should stay out of politics completely?
Well, that was back when they used to believe in quaint things like free speech, too. Good times, good times.
the party is getting expensive for US –
http://freebeacon.com/issues/obamas-motorcade-for-climate-change-talks-costing-784825/
at a time when we shoot off $20 for Anthony to travel ???
Reductive? If only.
Nope, we are approaching the limits of cheap energy versus demand growth necessary to lift billions out of poverty. Orders of magnitude improvement replacement technology urgently required. Never mind sidestep, how about the quickstep? No vision, no leadership. Just more mumbo-jumbo while riding a whipped-up populist FUD wave for which there is no firm scientific basis. Surfing on ego, thrills and trappings, just like the rest of this sorry band of hypocrites.
May I suggest this cheap replacement technology? COAL
Won’t keep pace I’m afraid.
AJB: so what, you’ll get a good 20 – 50 years out of it.
Given the Catholic Church’s history on scientific issues, we can rest assured that we are on the right side, we should keep up the good fight, and history will judge us properly. Galileo would be proud.
Georges Lemaître may disagree
Stop it. Demagogueing history based on ignorance and bigotry detracts from the REAL and legitimate issues. Set your ignorance aside for 5 minutes and deal with the legitimate issue at hand.
The Catholic Church placed Galileo under house arrest and didn’t acknowledge that the earth goes around the sun until the 19th century. How do those facts constitute ignorance and bigotry?
Besides which, why should anyone pay attention to what an ignorant and bigoted, Marxist priest says, who also claims that pets go to heaven?
troll
What makes you suppose I’m a troll?
Your reaction to the facts about the Church appears trollish to me.
Popes aren’t infallible and its priests are most recently guilty of widespread child rape, which was actively enabled and covered up by princes of the church. Not too long ago they offered sanctuary to N-a-z-i-s and their safe passage through Europe passage to South America. Shame on the Church and its devotees.
This particular Pope is no angel and is a typical South American radical and socialist. He will cozy right up to Obama, European socialist powers that be, and the UN.
Copernicus merely said that the planets circled the sun. Galileo added that the Sun was not the center of the universe, but his observations did not prove that. When it became more obvious in the 1800’s that Galileo was right, proved with observations, the church agreed.
But the Sun is the center of the universe. So is Tulsa… and Tucumcari. That’s the speculation, anyhow.
Alan Robertson December 1, 2015 at 1:56 pm
“But the Sun is the center of the universe.”
No Barack Obama is the center of the Universe, at least in his and his followers minds. I’m sorry, I mean at least in his and his followers heads full of mush.
Galileo’s observations of the phases of Venus showed the Church-approved, geocentric, Ptolemaic system false. The Church accepted the heliocentric system in the 19th century long after direct observation showed that the earth does in fact go around the sun.
Copernicus and Galileo both wrongly believed that orbits were perfect circles. Galileo should have known better, since Kepler sent him his discovery, using Tycho’s observations of Mars, that orbits are elliptical (Mars’ more so than Earth’s, due to proximity to Jupiter). Newton invented calculus to derive elliptical orbits from his theory of universal gravitation.
In 1992, after a 13-year investigation, Polish Pope John Paul II apologized on behalf of the Church to Galileo for wrongfully imprisoning him for advocating the astronomical system of German-speaking subject of the Polish crown, Copernicus, a Catholic canon whose work was published by German Protestants.
If Warmists are at their limits of suicide, then they should go ahead and get it over with. The world would be a better place.
Meanwhile the burning of the rain forests is changing climate, mass extinctions are just around the corner in Africa, and an expansionist religion of hate with extensive youth training is threatening the world. At this rate Armageddon will be neatly explained away by AGW climate change.
COAL seems like a good answer.
Hydrocarbons are a far too valuable commodity to just chemically convert to energy by burning. They are the industrial feedstocks of the future. Right now the technological edge commodity is rare earths, which are inextricably linked to the only credible solution to future energy demand.
That is if we want to stay in the game and our collective parasites on Parisian vacation wake up and actually lead instead of dropping the ball merely to entertain the green nut brigade.
Pope Francis said: “the continent [Africa] was ‘a martyr of exploitation’ by wealthy countries who lust after its natural resources and try to impose Western values instead of concentrating on development.”
I thought part of “Western values” WAS development. I think he may be a bit confused.
What the hell did we do to deserve these ‘leaders’ ? Are they illiterate ? all of them ? How about some good technical education ?
Exactly. This was emailed to me a few mins ago on “leaders”
http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2015/12/quote-of-day-on-our-world-leaders.html
Jesus on his Donkey
The pope is in his jet
Jesus says ‘do as I do’
‘I will. I will. but just not yet’
Jesuit man, how useful now
darling of the masters
who ridiculed your predecessors
Voices calling now for guns
held to heads of little people
all their money and their freedom gone
to those who rule by lies and sword
you speak for Caesar, Jesuit
get behind me!
Mower pleas.
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This is from an AP story today:” Obama met with envoys from island nations hit hard by rising seas and increasingly violent storms, which scientists attribute to climate change prompted by man-made carbon emissions. “
What??? Can someone tell me which island nation has been ‘hit hard’ by rising seas? Can someone show me the graph of ‘increasingly violent storms’? I’ll be waiting.
. . .WHAT ??? Didn’t you watch Al Gory’s movie !! Who do you think you are , an intelligent person asking a serious question ??? You , you denier you !! LOL…snarc !!
try to impose Western values instead of concentrating on development.
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Missionaries do that in Gods name.
ferdperple,
If you are talking about Christian missionaries then I would gently like to suggest that you look up in what part of the world Christianity was created. Or do you regard Palestine as part of the West?
Development IS a western value. You can have the socialist, 5 year plan version, or the freedom loving capitalist version. But both are Western values. You can look at 20th Century History and decide which works best for you… (hint, which one killed 100M+ people. Don’t choose that one).
If you want to stick with traditional tribal values, I’m afraid you don’t get development.
Peter
If you ask most of the old well indoctrinated Chinese they will tell you : so many ? well Chairman Mao needed to do that to create the new China. Later when asked which of the leaders that was good they will agree Deng Zhao Ping was good. He actually started to set China free from the socialist abuse and started the introduction of capitalism. That was back in 1980ies. That obvious worked, socialism do not.
Once Madame Mao was forcibly removed after Mao died!
The Chinese leaders finally wised up and realized that you didn’t need a non-functional economic system to maintain a dictatorship.
I think the Pope has a right to voice his views, just like the rest of us. I also think he’s about as well informed on climate science as I am on Mandarin punctuation rules, which is to say, not at all. I’m sure he’s a nice guy and he has literally dedicated his life to helping others, which is a laudable trait. His help of others might be better focused elsewhere, maybe somewhere where he has some level of “expertise”, like oh, I don’t know, maybe religious doctrine? We should probably just ignore his thoughts on climate, if I need climate info, I’ll come here. If I need the advice on wiring my house, I’ll call an electrician. If the Pope was my neighbor, and my car broke down, I’d call a mechanic. If a close friend died, I might ask the Pope a few things. Horses for courses…
The poop is a socialist from Argentina !! Period !!
Small correction ….that should have been ” Holy Poop ” !!
But if your mechanic was no longer allowed to be a mechanic because the collusion on a global scale happened to include an agenda against fossil fuel cars and trucks, would you notice or care about the connections of decisions and events? And if your electrician no longer worked because the housing market declined in the aftermath of tripling the price of fuels to commute to work, would you care? It’s the bad Santa butterfly effect brought to you by advocacy groups and a few prominent jet setters.
I guess God is using him to slaughter people.
Bingo.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Papal-seat-cushion.jpg
Having a website with the name vatican.com speaks volumes to me.
The Catholic church is perhaps the world’s greatest owner of real estate. Imagine the respect to be garnered if this institution sold all of this real estate, along with its vast hoard of treasure and then ministered to the poor as did Jesus. Fat chance … sadly, the rot has eaten its very soul.
Its soul? The church which, in its infancy, immersed itself in the blood of tens of thousands of pagans with whom it disagreed… the church led by Middle Ages popes, some of whom were murderers, adulterers, rapists, and warmongers in their own right… the church which, along with Protestant churches, burned tens of thousands of suspected witches… the church which burned people for English translation Bibles… the church which issued indulgences for sinners? I can only think that the church’s soul is as strong and as healthy as it’s ever been.
The Church briefly served a useful purpose during the Cold War, but now it’s back to its usual hypocritical con, extortion and protection racket.
Exactly who woudl it sell all those historic churches to and all that priceless European art? Russian or Asian business men? Have you really thought through what you are proposing? I doubt it – more knee jerk anti-Catholicism.
Well said Bob, but that’s not the catholic business model.
We’re all going to self-abort. Progress.
Every time he opens his mouth, this pope proves he’s an idiot.
How about Prince Charles, Mr Gore, Mr Obama … to name a few
The pope, unfortunately, is not the only idiot.
It’s now time to call on historians to recount the times in history when so many world leaders were diverted from real issues and challenges at the same time. Or was history also distorted like current events and coverage today? I suppose the lead in to WW1 might have some similarities, with its monarchies oblivious to undercurrents. Likewise, a retreat from threats and reality in the 1930s might apply since the world was more severely impacted by trade shut down and isolationism than is normally discussed.
Maybe the many conferences and treaties post WW1 to outlaw war between nation states. Lots of hurumping and pretty speechifying leading straight to WW2.