While few have noticed, since hardly anyone but the handful of extreme faithful visit there anymore, it seems that the website run by the climate alarmist cabal of Dr. Gavin Schmidt, Dr. Michael Mann, Dr. Stephan Rahmstorf, and others has gone dark this week. According to the “wayback machine” the last time the realclimate.org website was live was November 17th:
Now, it shows this, what appears to be a default page for a “parked domain”.
The domain is still registered, according to WHOIS:
‘Tis a puzzle, did Gavin or EMS forget to pay the hosting bill, have they given up, or is something else going on?
There’s no hint of why on Gavin’s Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin
Note to Gavin, this really doesn’t prevent me from reading your Twitter feed:
Hopefully we’ll find out the reason soon.
UPDATE: Russell Cook writes via email…
From what I’ve seen, the ultra-handy Internet Wayback Machine site is sometimes a bit slow on archiving current web sites.
Google Cache seems to have caught RealClimate up an running on Thursday the 19th: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eItUrDSLUIgJ:www.realclimate.org/





Somebody please buy it. And then have it redirect to wattupwiththat.
Well, I’d disappear a damning indictment if I could.
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Tweet from John P. Reisman earlier today: “@RealClimate There is an issue with http://realclimate.org and they are working on it. Meantime use http://realclimate-backup.org“
Well, it looks like they finally made it back. Betsy and ems.org are gone, there seem to be a number of loose ends to deal with:
sl:moneydance$ whois realclimate.org
Domain Name:REALCLIMATE.ORG
Domain ID: D105219760-LROR
Creation Date: 2004-11-19T16:39:03Z
Updated Date: 2015-11-24T05:57:50Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2025-11-19T16:39:03Z
Sponsoring Registrar:Active Registrar, Inc. (R1709-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1090
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: ok — http://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Domain Status: renewPeriod — http://www.icann.org/epp#renewPeriod
Domain Status: autoRenewPeriod — http://www.icann.org/epp#autoRenewPeriod
Registrant ID:AR_48575015
Registrant Name:Whois Manager
Registrant Organization:Whois Proof LLP
Registrant Street: PO Box 4120
Registrant City:Portland
Registrant State/Province:OR
Registrant Postal Code:97208-4120
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2024700599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.8663666681
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:arr7244u7au@whoisproof.com
Admin ID:AR_48575015
Admin Name:Whois Manager
Admin Organization:Whois Proof LLP
Admin Street: PO Box 4120
Admin City:Portland
Admin State/Province:OR
Admin Postal Code:97208-4120
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2024700599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.8663666681
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:arr7244u7au@whoisproof.com
Tech ID:AR_48575015
Tech Name:Whois Manager
Tech Organization:Whois Proof LLP
Tech Street: PO Box 4120
Tech City:Portland
Tech State/Province:OR
Tech Postal Code:97208-4120
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.2024700599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.8663666681
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:arr7244u7au@whoisproof.com
Name Server:NS1.WEBFACTION.COM
Name Server:NS2.WEBFACTION.COM
Name Server:NS3.WEBFACTION.COM
Name Server:NS4.WEBFACTION.COM
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
DNSSEC:Unsigned
From my watching program:
$ sum Nov* | tail -5
49543 3 Nov-23.21:00
49543 3 Nov-23.22:00
49543 3 Nov-23.23:00
49543 3 Nov-24.00:00
14816 3 Nov-24.01:00
This says the DNS record changed between midnight and 1 AM.
They have a bit of an explanation on the site. I’ll go read it so you don’t have to. 🙂
Here’s their explanation. The references to realclimate-backup.org appear stale, I think they got their real site back, but they do still have links to realclimate-backup. Apparently one issue is that they can’t get in contact with the Registrar that held the registration. That may no longer be an issue. Beyond that it looks like things went pretty much as I surmised.
I have to get one dig in – people often insult skeptics who aren’t climate scientists. However, the field is so large, that people with many backgrounds bring good information and skills to the topic. It seems to me that the Realclimate folks need to get more out more. Many of the denizens here at WUWT can set up a web site, I’m surprised that RealClimate didn’t get this resolved months ago – they realized it was a problem then.
They did have some interesting challenges, but still, someone at RealClimate should have been able to figure out how to deal with them or breakdown and ask for directions.
Welcome back, anyway.
-Ric
http://realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015/11/reports-of-our-demise/ say:
Reports of our demise…
Filed under:
Climate Science Communicating Climate
— gavin @ur momisugly 23 November 2015
… have of course been greatly exaggerated. But we are having some issues with our domain name. The back story is perhaps interesting to others, so here is quick summary of the situation.
Update: The account details have been restored and the domains renewed. We should be back to normal in a couple of days.
Way back when we first started, hosting for RealClimate was provided by Environmental Media Services (EMS). They owned the domain and let us use their internet service provider. As anyone could see from the whois data, the domain name itself was set up by one Betsy Ensley at ems.org. None of us knew Betsy, or as far as I can tell, have even met her (Betsy, if you are reading, please drop us a line!).
Over the years, things changed. The main force behind EMS was Arlie Schardt who retired in 2005. After that EMS morphed into a different kind of organisation, the Science Communication Network (SCN) which is mostly focused on environmental health issues. But still, the domain name for RealClimate.org had years to go, and so no-one changed anything in the registration.
After a few years under the SCN ISP account, we went it alone a couple of years ago. This is probably something we should have done at the start, but we were scientists, not website engineers. We still aren’t web gurus, but experience over the years has made this far easier. Nonetheless, the domainame was still registered with Betsy. This wouldn’t have been a problem, but Betsy long ago left EMS, so the email bounces, the phone number has long been out-of-service and SCN has no records of Betsy’s online accounts, and this domain registration is not part of their portfolio.
This is where it gets tricky. The domainname registration was with Active-Domain.com. If you go to their website, there is no way to get in touch with them except through their contact form – no phone numbers, addresses etc. And quite often in our experience, their contact form doesn’t work at all. We have been trying for months to get hold of someone at Active-Domain.com to ask what would be required to amend the registration info to something current. Unfortunately, no responses have been forthcoming, and frankly, this slipped off our radar.
On Nov 16, the registration actually expired. For some people, going to realclimate.org led you to a page asking you to renew the registration, but without the Betsy Ensley’s or the EMS login credentials you can’t do anything. None of the emails and support tickets we have sent since to Active-Domain.com have been responded to. Worse, some people have reported that the domain has in fact been hijacked to point to some malware and spammer sites. Website hijacking is of course a big deal – as this recent Science News story about journal websites makes clear.
We now have this temporary domain realclimate-backup.org set up, and we’ll continue here for the time being, but obviously, we’d like our original domain back.
So, a few requests for our readers: Does anyone know anyone at Active-Domain.com that we can actually talk to? Similarly, does anyone have any experience amending out-of-date domain registration records? What is actually required? Given the state of flux in URLs, we imagine that this must be quite a common occurrence. We obviously would like to deal with this before the domain becomes free again, so any suggestions are welcome.
In the meantime, please let people know that archived content from realclimate.org is available here. We will maintain this backup site for as long as necessary. And of course, it’s now our registration, so hopefully that shouldn’t be too hard!
Heh, ‘slipped off our radar’. Mebbe they should use microwaves.
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That seems to have done the trick … completely vanished now. Well done the guys at realclimate. How’s the modeling going?
maybe Harry is on vacation?
Proud to say I got banned from RealClimate while trying to make the case for gravtational energy in planetary atmospheres.
The guys at RealClimate did not seem to grasp the role of gravitational energy in planetary mechanics.
Sigh, if it’s not one thing, it’s another. Now they report HTTP error 503:
Or, straight from the horse’s mouth:
My first guess is they’ve changed web hosts along the way and have exceeded their monthly bandwidth already. Not sure how they could have done that. Perhaps just from uploading everything, so I could well be wrong.
They’re currently handled by webfaction for both DNS and content:
sl:moneydance$ host realclimate.org
realclimate.org has address 108.168.205.78
realclimate.org mail is handled by 10 mx9.webfaction.com.
realclimate.org mail is handled by 10 mx7.webfaction.com.
realclimate.org mail is handled by 10 mx8.webfaction.com.
sl:moneydance$ host 108.168.205.78
78.205.168.108.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer web83.webfaction.com.
So that’s all new.
I don’t understand this. I tried realclimate-backup.org too. My browser reports error 503 from them, but wget reports 403:
Oh, now wget is getting 403 errors from realclimate.org. https://www.webfaction.com/ does work.
Oh well I don’t know what’s up other than their nightmare week continues.
I think Gavin is in over his head.
Gee Anthony, maybe you should offer host them in a subdomain at WUWT. Most of their traffic probably comes from here anyway. ;-))
That’s not a bad idea, actually.
Kinda makes me appreciate the wisdom of using a free WordPress blog. 🙂
According to RC’s backup site, “we were scientists, not website engineers”. Really? I thought they were PR men.
They were scientists.
They are PR men.
They can talk around and over it all they want but the bottom line is this. RealClimate includes climate modelers. Climate models are some of the most complicated programs ever written, requiring remembering thousands of important details over years of development. If RealClimate can’t even remember to keep its domain name renewed or even how to do this — and all RealClimate is is its domain name — can anyone really have any faith in these climate models? Enough to radically change the world economy and condemn billions to drastically reduced standards of living?
1. Call Al Gore.
2. Turn over some of you grant money to koogle klimate kooks and let them hide the decline for you.
3. Lay down the lies in front of you, back out of the room, run to your mommies.
I just noticed that realclimate.org is back up It looks like they may have forgotten to pay their domain name hosting bill;-)
Just for the halibut, I just tried http://realclimate.org/ and got:
Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
The top of my browser window says, “503 Service Temorarily Unavailable”.
Apparently they expect to be in business for a while. whois now reports:
Registry Expiry Date: 2025-11-19T16:39:03Z
Compared to, e.g. Ric Werme’s report of November 21, 2015 at 7:41 am
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-11-19T16:39:03Z
Apparently ownership of the domain name has changed:
Registrant ID:AR_48575015
Registrant Name:Whois Manager
Registrant Organization:Whois Proof LLP
Registrant Street: PO Box 4120
Registrant City:Portland
Registrant State/Province:OR
Registrant Postal Code:97208-4120
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2024700599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.8663666681
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:arr7244u7au@whoisproof.com
Although one might wonder why an outfit in Oregon has a District of Columbia phone number.
But the domain is still listed as
Domain Status: ok — http://www.icann.org/epp#ok
I.e. the new registrar has not switched the status to some other status, such as clientTransferProhibited.
So, can we reasonably conclude from the fact that they registered the domain name all the way until 2015 that they do not expect the planet to roast by then?