Climate Rationalization, Beliefs and Denialism

The integrity of our most important tool for understanding is being destroyed and it’s time to recognize and address it.

Guest essay by Walter Starck

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We humans have a remarkable ability to rationalize whatever benefits us personally or that we find satisfying emotionally. Climate change has found strong resonance with different interests for different reasons. For researcher it offers generous funding, recognition and personal importance. For the media it is dramatic stories. For politicians it’s green votes and popularity. For the financial sector it promises huge profits. For businesses there is the prospect of getting in early on booming growth plus the added bonus of attractive subsidies. For activists it affords attention and donations. For bureaucrats it’s authority and budgets. For everyone it also promises a hard to resist sense of importance and moral righteousness.

Of all the areas of human endeavor science has been uniquely successful in establishing the preeminence of empirical evidence and logical consistency to limit our tendency to self-serving rationalization and our capacity to believe six impossible things before breakfast. The greatest danger of Climate Change is not the threat of climate itself or the socioeconomic consequences of our delusions. These risks are limited compared to the damage being done to the integrity of the most effective tool we have to better understand our world and to continue to improve our lives.

The now endemic corruption of science that has been engendered under the banner of climate change could be easily and effectively addressed by the establishment of a science court resourced to investigate and make determinations on prima facie instances of scientific misconduct. The most appropriate penalty might also be to simply disqualify offenders from any further public funding. This would largely avoid the risk of witch hunts or whitewashes and only a few convictions could effect a miracle cure on the malaise now epidemic in environmental research.

Some argue that true believers will only take the same points and argue they apply to skeptics – i.e. it is skeptics who are the ones rationalizing irrational disbelief and using false evidence to justify an emotional attachment to a contrary belief.

In response I argue that no amount of reason or evidence will convince a true believer to change their mind. Fortunately they are a minority and a majority of the public are unconvinced and receptive to counter arguments. Committed alarmists will of course try to use the “you too” tactic but this is generally recognized as a weak response only resorted to when sound opposing argument is lacking.  That there is abundant evidence for skepticism while that for DAGW is far less and more uncertain is a verifiable fact which deserves more emphasis.  Despite their huge advantage in funding, media support and political influence, opinion polls clearly indicate alarmists have already lost the public majority and the trend is ongoing.  They can say what they want but it is obvious neither the public nor climate itself is being convinced.

In terms of scientific rationale and supporting evidence, climate alarmism  involves far more denial than does skepticism. The only way one could honestly conclude differently would be to be blissfully unaware of the hundreds of robust peer reviewed studies which refute or bring into serious doubt virtually every important claim by the proponents of DAGW. In this regard it might be more accurate to discard the deliberately pejorative label of climate change denial and call it the Natural Climate Variability hypothesis. If those who introduced the use of denialism in this matter wish to continue with it they might more honestly apply it to their own position as deniers of Natural Climate Variability.

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hunter
October 26, 2015 7:29 am

Be very careful of what you wish for.
The “Science Court” will be run by judges who are already corrupted by the disease that made the current situation possible.

Resourceguy
October 26, 2015 7:30 am

The Green Emperors have no clothes.

October 26, 2015 7:39 am

I too doubt another institution will solve the malaise.
CAGW is a product of committees.
Created, promoted and coddled by our bureaucrats.
A science court?
What as a branch of the “International Court”? UN?
Thank you no.
Our Justice system is already a Just-Us system.
I would prefer those claiming the mantle of scientist ,court the scientific method instead.
The absolute corruption that is the United Nations is there for all to see.
Agency after hidden agency all interlocked and all actively seeking complete immunity from criminal investigation.See Donna Laframboise’s latest .
A nice cliche of entitled and unaccountable Paris-Ites.
Funny how all those statists tell us we have nothing to fear from greater government oversight, unless we are doing something criminal, yet here we have evidence in their own words, that the UN know what they do is criminal.(Using their logic, what do they fear?)
CAGW has lost its usefulness as a power grabbing tool.
The next target may well be this means of communication.
How dare you non experts exchange unauthorized ideas.?

Editor
October 26, 2015 7:45 am

Question for Walter Starck ==> Is it at all possible that you are setting up two straw-men to battle one another when you say: “…to discard the deliberately pejorative label of climate change denial and call it the Natural Climate Variability hypothesis. If those who introduced the use of denialism in this matter wish to continue with it they might more honestly apply it to their own position as deniers of Natural Climate Variability.”
To my knowledge, the Consensus Climate Team does not deny Natural Variability and the Climate Skeptics do not deny Anthropogenic Influences on Earth’s climate.
Two straw-men?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 26, 2015 12:29 pm

To my knowledge, the Consensus Climate Team does not deny Natural Variability

Mann’s original HS and its “independent” derivatives sure tried to deny it.

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 26, 2015 12:56 pm

Reply to Jeff Alberts ==> There is a real world outside of the Climate Wars.
In that real world, I know of no climate scientist that declares that the Earth’s Climate System is not affected by Natural Variability (NV). In fact, I believe the IPCC puts NV at about 50% of the cause of 1880-2015 warming.
Likewise, as our host repeats as often as allowed, Climate Skeptic scientists (but not the malicious clueless teenage-trolls so often seen here in comments) happily acknowledge human influence on climate.
Read steadily over at Climate Etc, Dr. Judith Curry’s blog. You’ll catch on.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 26, 2015 4:48 pm

Kip Hansen, this human influence on climate, other than micro-climate effects, are there actual measured effects?
Or are these extrapolated effects, as in once this was forest now it is grain field?

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 26, 2015 7:47 pm

Reply to John Robertson ==> Human influences are known to include land use changes, urbanization and the discharge of GHGs into the atmosphere. Pielke Sr’s group would be a good starting point to look into this.

David Ball
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 26, 2015 9:36 pm

John Robertson, to get to where Kip is talking about, you just have to jump over a shark, and an elephant in a room, and you’re there.

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 28, 2015 9:33 am

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Walt D.
October 26, 2015 7:46 am

IMHO just looking at climate science is just looking at the tip of the iceberg.
The old communists/socialists of Eastern Europe and the former USSR, co-opted the environmental movement with the express purpose of bringing down western capitalism.
Though they lost the cold war they won the peace.
They identified the educational system as a key institution to be taken over. They realized that this would take time. It would need for the old teachers to retire and be replaced by new teachers that had been though the system themselves. There is an old adage – you can’t teach someone else what you don’t know yourself.
All of this has consequences. In response to a question by TIm Yeo, Richard Lindzen made the statement that the best students are no longer going into physics, but rather medicine or finance. He also recommends that his students not go into Climate Science.
There are always unintended consequences when dogma takes over from science. The old USSR did not believe in the theory of evolution, since it was at odds with the Marxist theory of history. One result of this was that they did not develop the same high yielding crops that were developed in the west.

Warren Latham
October 26, 2015 8:01 am

Dear Walter Starck,
I’m afraid that I DISAGREE with 97% of your article.
We have paid a heavy price for this CO2 fairytale:-
taxes,
more taxes,
closures of industries especially in North America,
pollution of our children’s education,
massive spending and controls,
shameful efforts to silence and slander anyone who dares to raise a question
billions of dollars in research and renewable energy grants
attacking the very idea of free speech and open debate
fraudulent alarmist pseudo-science
… and that is just the short-list !
Your USE OF WORDS PHRASES also seem to “let them off the hook”:-
“Climate Change”
– when you SHOULD have used “climate” or “Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming”.
“DAGW”
– (as above)
“science court”
– a romantic notion which would open the gates of hell.
“robust” (adj.)
– this word is always used by government-induced climaphobians.
“Natural Climate Variability hypothesis”
– NO, NO, NO, – the word you’re looking for is simply “Climate”.
We know that it changes so there is no point in saying FOUR words when ONE will do !
You will find that there is no escape here: we are polite and considerate (most of us) but there comes a time when you have to REMEMBER all the damage that has been done.
The big con-job is based ENTIRELY upon a corrupted belief that carbon-dioxide is somehow a pollutant. It clearly is not.
If you have any way of getting our money back then I’m with you all the way but until then,
I respectfully suggest that you now pick up the telephone and speak to Mr. Paul Driessen and ask for his opinion of your article. I’m fairly confident that he will be able to give you a hefty volume of sobering facts that will cause you to reach for the bottle.
Courteous Regards,
WL

Reply to  Warren Latham
October 26, 2015 8:48 am

Well said. And what the heck is ‘DAGW’ anyway? /Mr Lynn

robert_g
Reply to  L. E. Joiner
October 26, 2015 11:41 am

Maybe it is a typo for the science of climate change gone to the DAWGs

Reply to  L. E. Joiner
October 26, 2015 4:36 pm

robert_g October 26, 2015 at 11:41 am
Maybe it is a typo for the science of climate change gone to the DAWGs

Thread winner! /Mr L

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 26, 2015 8:08 am

By the time the next Little Ice Age has arrived and several billion people have starved to death, it will all be blamed on witches, wizards, bad spirits, djinns and angry gods. Then, a few hundred years later someone will reinvent rationality.

RH
October 26, 2015 8:09 am

CAGW is what you get when you mix politicians, money, and science. Look at the damage done to worldwide nutrition when the vegetable oil industry corrupted only a couple of scientists and politicians. The parallels to gw are stunning, including the harassment of “deniers” like Dr. Atkins, who the dragged before congress. The problem is that, just like the saturated fat conspiracy, CAGW is accepted as fact by a lazy populace with no will to change.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/januaryfebruary_2015/on_political_books/meat_puppets053480.php?page=all

Eric Gisin
October 26, 2015 8:14 am

It’s not just science, it’s the universities and the UN. The WHO is almost as bad as the IPCC, they just claimed red meat is as dangerous as asbestos. Similarly second-hand smoke and various epidemics
The universities have to be purged of anti-intellectuals first. Gender studies and alternative medicine are very anti-science. Plenty of other departments are just so far from reality they would qualify as clinically mass delusions.

Warren Latham
October 26, 2015 8:20 am

I’ll try again.
Dear Walter Starck,
NO, NO, NO !
(I just posted a reply which has either disappeared into gremlin heaven, or, it was censored by “mod” or I pressed a wrong button.)
Anyway, I assure you that you are simply ON THE WRONG TRACK.
Let me put it to you this way …
If you would please take the trouble to read just two articles, firstly, Viscount Monckton’s most recent article here, then read the CFACT article by Paul Driessen entitled “Climate statism: Science, poverty, free speech at Issue” then I hope you will change your way of thinking.
If you would be so kind, I should be obliged to have your reply.
Courteous Regards,
WL

rogerknights
October 26, 2015 8:23 am

The now endemic corruption of science that has been engendered under the banner of climate change could be easily and effectively addressed by the establishment of a science court resourced to investigate and make determinations on prima facie instances of scientific misconduct. The most appropriate penalty might also be to simply disqualify offenders from any further public funding.

The science court idea, as originally proposed decades ago, did not focus on punishing misconduct, and was not an arm of government. It concentrated on weighing opposing scientific claims. At a minimum, it would provide the public with thorough presentations of each side’s case, including rebuttal papers and cross-examination of witnesses. Nothing like this exists now. There has never been a formal, all-encompassing, multi-week debate before a panel of scientists, with transcripts available online. There are maybe 100 contentious issues in the GW debate. A court, or several courts, could rate the strength of each individual argument, or argument cluster, separately, and issue a finding that condemning those that are outrageously bad.
It wouldn’t matter if the judges decided wrongly, because any egregiously bad decision could be mocked sharply, and because the judges could be asked to justify their arguments against their critics by an oversight committee. Only nonpartisans would be allowed as judges. They should also be persons of high achievement (like Koonin) and character. An arrangement can be found that prevents stacking the deck with partisans, etc. The transcripts of Koonin’s APS inquiry are the best summary to claims and counterclaims in existence, according to J. Curry.
A British court ruled against the claims in Gore’s movie. A science court would have been even more severe. The IAC severely criticized IGPOCC. Given independent appointment of judges, it’s likely that similarly good results can be achieved. There’s still plenty of integrity among scientists as a whole.
Whatever flaws a science court might have, it would have vastly cut down on bad arguments in the debate, and clarified the issues. It would meet every five years, say, maybe after every IGPOCC Report, to thrash over the arguments again, so the court’s findings wouldn’t be cast in stone. (These sequels would give it an opportunity to hold alarmists’ feet to the fire regarding their failed predictions.)
Here are extracts from an article and comments on Curry’s site:

http://judithcurry.com/2014/08/19/institutionalizing-dissent/
[need to counteract consensus]
Institutionalizing Dissent: A Proposal for an Adversarial System of Pharmaceutical Research
Justin Biddle
Abstract. There are serious problems with the way in which pharmaceutical research is currently practiced, many of which can be traced to the influence of commercial interests on research. One of the most significant is inadequate dissent, or organized skepticism. In order to ameliorate this problem, I develop a proposal that I call the “Adversarial Proceedings for the Evaluation of Pharmaceuticals,” to be instituted within a regulatory agency such as the Food and Drug Administration for the evaluation of controversial new drugs and controversial drugs already in the market. This proposal is an organizational one based upon the “science court” proposal by Arthur Kantrowitz in the 1960s and 1970s. The primary benefit of this system is its ability to institutionalize dissent, thereby ensuring that one set of interests does not dominate all others.
In 1967, Arthur Kantrowitz published an article in the journal Science entitled “Proposal for an Institution of Scientific Judgment,” in which he argued for the establishment of a “science court” where scientific questions that are relevant to public policy debates would be adjudicated. Emphasizing the growing entanglement of science and politics, Kantrowitz argued that we are increasingly forced to make consequential “mixed decisions,” or decisions that have both a scientific and a moral/political component. Whether it is the decision to build an atomic bomb or to enact policies to curb ozone depletion, we are increasingly confronted with science-based public policy decisions that have wide-ranging effects on the social and political landscape.
In a number of essays beginning in 1967, Kantrowitz argued that we do not have the appropriate organizational structures for making mixed decisions effectively. The primary reason for this, he argued, is that individual scientists engaged in cutting-edge research are almost always affected by various biases. For example, scientists who become involved in the policy-making process almost inevitably allow their moral and political beliefs to influence their appraisal of scientific hypotheses. Similarly, scientists who are immersed in researching a particular question for an extended period of time almost always develop cognitive prejudices, including preconceptions about the results of future experiments . In addition, the fact that mixed decisions must be made quickly, typically before a consensus is formed within the scientific community, makes it even more likely that such biases will affect individual scientists.
As argued, privatization is impeding the ability of communities to instantiate the norm of organized skepticism. Yet, as should be clear from the discussion of Kantrowitz’s proposal, one of the primary epistemic benefits of an adversarial system is the way in which it institutionalizes dissent. Given this, it is plausible to think that an adversarial system could help to alleviate some of the problems that privatization is causing. In particular, an adversarial system could help to expose the kinds of bias that are so often found in current pharmaceutical research, such as bias in the choice of hypotheses, bias in the interpretation of results, and bias in experimental design.
The adversarial system of pharmaceutical research that I will outline – Adversarial Proceedings for the Evaluation of Pharmaceuticals (APEP) – retains several of the features of Kantrowitz’s original science court proposal. Two groups of advocates would present arguments for a specific position, and a panel of judges would adjudicate between these two groups. The issues to be discussed should be issues that are controversial; in certain circumstances, there will be previously-existing evidence that is sufficient to close the controversy, but in general, the central questions will be underdetermined. The conclusions arrived at by the panel of judges should not be considered definitively true, but should rather be viewed as provisional and subject to change with the acquisition of further information.
Conclusions
I have argued that there are serious problems with the way in which pharmaceutical research is currently done – epistemic, moral, and socio-economic problems – and that an important cause of these problems is inadequate dissent. As a means of improving this situation, I have proposed that an adversarial system of pharmaceutical research, APEP, be instituted within a regulatory agency such as the FDA. The adversarial nature of APEP represents an acknowledgment that pharmaceutical companies, and the scientists that they sponsor, should not be viewed as disinterested arbiters of research but, rather, as advocates for particular hypotheses. APEP, in other words, is an institution that acknowledges that interests play an inevitable role in the evaluation of pharmaceutical research, and it ensures that the interests of pharmaceutical companies are not allowed free-reign but rather are checked by interests that are diametrically opposed to them. In this way, it enforces organized skepticism.
JC reflections
The analogy with climate science is that the dominant moral and political beliefs of climate scientists are introducing problems and biases into climate research. To use just one example, consider climate models and the bias in experimental design. Until very recently, driven by the UNFCCC/IPCC mandate, climate models have focused on the time series of temperature anomalies (not on getting the absolute temperatures correct), on anthropogenic forcing (with little attention paid to solar forcing and indirect effects), and on global average surface temperatures (not on regional variations or the disposition of heat in the ocean). Preference bias is evidenced in how climate information is displayed graphically – alternative graphical representations would send a different message.
One of the norms of science is organized skepticism. Those working at the climate science – policy interface (including the IPCC) have worked hard to kill organized skepticism by manufacturing a consensus on climate change. The idea of a climate red team has been put forward by John Christy. Kantrowitz and Biddle have thought through how institutionalizing dissent might actually work. Particularly for climate science, implementing something like this wouldn’t be simple, and actually achieving the desired objectives would be quite difficult.
But not impossible. The closest I’ve seen was the APS Workshop to consider its climate change statement. A committee of eminent physicists, each with no particular expertise in climate science or an apparent dog in the public debate, selected 6 scientists (Held, Santer, Collins, Curry, Lindzen, Christy) to address specific questions prepared by the committee. The committee has not completed its deliberations (I’m not expecting to hear anything from the committee before the end of the year) so the end of this story has not yet been written. But this is the kind of thing that is more likely than a manufactured consensus seeking process to move the science forward while at the same time providing decision makers with a better sense of the uncertainties and areas of disagreement and ignorance.
[JC commented:]
An intriguing aspect of the Science Court is that it makes the debate about advocacy and sources of funding as a pernicious influence essentially moot. It takes away the responsibility from individuals in these matters by institutionalizing dissent.
I’m certainly in favor of this general idea, but I can easily see this falling into the usual rathole for climate science if groups like the NAS are put in charge. Your thoughts on this?
David L. Hagen | August 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm | Reply
Formalize Red Team Funding to support the Science Court
Verification and validation are essential to science. For highly important public issues we need a science policy that further formally allocates a substantial portion of funding to “Red teams” to test hypotheses and generate the evidence, and analyses which such a tentative science court could weigh. Current grant making groups are too easily swayed by political correctness and the “lemming factor”.
e.g. Where is the research examining the timing probabilities of global cooling into the next glacial period and the effort needed to prevent that?
That has far greater threat to civilization than the IPCC’s warmist alarms.
Hank Zentgraf | August 19, 2014 at 1:54 pm | Reply
To institutionalize dissent you must start with the money for grants. All federal grants would require on-line publishing of results (no paywall) including all code, data, and math. Grants would be available to other scientists who wish to dissent either against a specific research publication or in response to position statements made by Federal agencies (NOAA, NAS, EPA, etc. ). These dissent papers would also be published on-line. A separate function would be formed under NSF to assure the quality of the process and report on its efficacy. The funding would come from the existing $7.0 B NSF budget.
This is just one idea. I am sure this blog can come up with something better.
rhhardin | August 19, 2014 at 2:00 pm | Reply
Hostile skeptics are the ones you can trust. They’ll explore corners without sweeping anything under the rug.
Institutionalized skeptics will be co-opted like the rest of the consensus.
Nobody’s shouting that climate science isn’t a science in the first place, for instance. It gets assumed that it is, and the presence of certain science procedures is enough to guarantee it, a sort of science cargo cult.
I’d recommend instead a climate curiosity group. They could point out weird stuff and perhaps analyze this or that somehow. But not put it together into a picture it doesn’t support.
Matthew R Marler | August 19, 2014 at 3:27 pm | Reply
These problems include the suppression of undesirable results, bias in the design of studies and in the interpretation of results. These problems can be traced to the influence of commercial interests on research.
Ioanides and colleagues have documented that 40% of the results published in medical journals and physiological research are non-reproducible, and hence most likely are false positives. In light of that, I don’t think it can be established that the problems in pharmaceutical research are worse than the problems in academic research, or that they are traceable to the influence of commercial interests. They are “traceable” to a common underestimation of the prevalence and magnitude of random variation, and the desire of investigators to be associated with “discoveries” instead of null results.
One recent innovation is that FDA requires all clinical trials of a drug to be registered in advance, in a publicly searchable registry. A clinical trial that has not been so registered can not be counted in support of marketing a drug in case the results turn out favorable to the drug. This ought to cut down on the suppression of undesirable results.
Faustino | August 12, 2014 at 1:16 am | Reply
Hal, you conclude: “Our TRCS research team experience with the Shuttle Challenger and Columbia accident investigation boards, as well as numerous independent and non-advocacy review boards regularly conducted on NASA manned and unmanned programs, leads us to believe that a similar independent review activity for the SCC calculation methodology is required. Following the template for successful independent review familiar to us, we recommend that in addition to climate science experts, numerous review board members selected from a broad array of technical fields that utilize the same basic technical disciplines, but are not directly involved in climate science research, are needed to achieve an adequate independent and objective review. Review board members should be vetted for identification and resolution of any possible conflicts of interest.” I’ve been advocating something similar for many years as necessary before engaging in expensive programs of dubious merit. No joy, though, your group has more clout, good luck.

Editor
Reply to  rogerknights
October 26, 2015 11:04 am

Note to rogerknights ==> You could have just used the link alone…. 😉

October 26, 2015 8:25 am

None of this would be possible if scientists really know how the climate works. The facts win in the end as as they. I fear climate facts are hard to come by.

October 26, 2015 8:30 am

“I argue that no amount of reason or evidence will convince a true believer to change their mind. Fortunately they are a minority and a majority of the public are unconvinced and receptive to counter arguments.”
My experience and public polls show that the majority believes the propaganda without question. At parties when someone parrots the dangerous meme and I provide empirical facts, the reaction is generally shock and disbelief. The evidence is so far outside of what they have accepted as truth that their minds shut down. They don’t want to hear the truth. I hear these same people spouting the same nonsense at future parties even though they have been exposed to Ir-refutable facts. I wouldn’t put them in the category of the true believers I encounter in comment sections and blogs. The propaganda is so pervasive that it is almost impossible for people lacking scientific critical thinking skills to believe anything else is possible.
The mind control techniques being used are powerful and effective. They rely on the fact that you can fool most of the people most of the time. I do have a lot of success with the agnostic’s that don’t care about the issue. They tend to have such a small grasp of the actual issues that new information has a void to fill.

trafamadore
October 26, 2015 8:40 am

“The now endemic corruption of science that has been engendered under the banner of climate change could be easily and effectively addressed by the establishment of a science court resourced to investigate and make determinations on prima facie instances of scientific misconduct.”
So how to proceed on this? What do you do, take the authors of every paper you disagree with to “science court”. Do you sue Marcott because you dislike him finding a similar result to Mann, or Karl because he found bias that ended up in the adjustment of the temperature record? Do you sue the scientists that compile the surface temperature record because of “endemic corruption”, oh, and they find the surface temp keeps going up?
I am just curious how this witch hunt would work.

Reply to  trafamadore
October 26, 2015 9:59 am

traffy,
We proceed by thoroughly debunking the climate alarmist clique, right here on WUWT.
It’s effective, too. I recall Michael Mann squealing with anger over the voice skeptics have.

trafamadore
Reply to  dbstealey
October 26, 2015 12:28 pm

What exactly do you mean by “thoroughly”?
All your targets are standing fine in the annuals of the journals, because apparently they don’t have an internet connection (even the online ones, who would think!) and, more important, no one has debunked them in the literature. Mann ’98 has over 1000 citations, and still gets lots of citations/year, including 25 already this year.

Reply to  trafamadore
October 26, 2015 12:44 pm

traffy sez:
What exactly do you mean by “thoroughly”?
I mean the climate alarmist clique has been thoroughly debunked from top to bottom, inside out, left to right, and backward and forward. But not by commenters here; all we do is report the facts.
Such as: Planet Earth has not warmed for almost twenty years. The Polar ice caps are still there, and global ice is as high as ever. The Polar bears are multiplying, not subtracting. Hurricanes are not increasing in either intensity or number. I could go own and own… but you get the picture, don’t you?
And:
All your targets are standing fine in the annuals of the journals…
The journals are more perennials than annuals…
And:
…no one has debunked them in the literature. Mann ’98 has over 1000 citations…&etc.
I’m sure astrologers have thousands of citations from other astrologers, too. And how many Bible citations are there? Millions?
FYI, McIntyre & McKittrick have so thoroughly debunked MBH98/99 that Mann’s original and scary runaway global warming chart can no longer be published by the IPCC. And the IPCC LOVED Mann’s chart. It was visually arresting, very alarming, easy to understand… but it was thoroughly debunked by the real world. Because it was bogus.
See? I used ‘thoroughly’ again. Correctly. Just like you used ‘annuals’. Incorrectly.
Yes, that’s just a quibble. But a fun quibble! ☺

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  trafamadore
October 26, 2015 1:24 pm

I think something simpler like requiring journals to adhere to their own rules for ALL submissions, not just the ones they like. And perhaps to prevent rejection of a paper based on unsubstantive reviews. In other words, prevent endemic bias by journal editors.

rogerknights
Reply to  trafamadore
October 26, 2015 2:59 pm

Nobody would sue anyone. It would not be affiliated with the judicial system. It would be a private body associated with some universities and/or scientific societies. It would have no power to punish. See my long comment a few page-ups upthread.

Knute
Reply to  rogerknights
October 26, 2015 3:43 pm

RK
I could work as a gold standard type review.
Review for classical fallacies.
Replicable data.
Known rate of error.
Design review of experiment to prove the theory.
Pro bono work.
Thorough disclosure of potential conflicts.
There us a market for such a thing.

Knute
Reply to  rogerknights
October 26, 2015 3:44 pm

Dang spell check “I” sb “It”.

Reply to  rogerknights
October 27, 2015 12:25 am

Knute,
You’ve given several reasons that disqualify you for climate peer review work.
Too bad, because you’re the kind of referee they need.

Knute
Reply to  dbstealey
October 27, 2015 9:21 am

DB
Touche’.
I’m neither referee nor peer reviewer.
I do see the effects WUWT has outside of its internal forum and I’m sure you do as well.

KTM
October 26, 2015 8:47 am

https://www.mailman.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/Gift of God Rosner Markowitz.pdf
I read through this yesterday, and the parallels to today are striking. On one hand, we have science and business pushing progress. On the other hand you have chicken-littles who are absolutely determined that there is a threat.
They demand a conference, a conference is held, they declare victory, then months later complain that they were duped. They demand research, the business community does research, they reject the research because the businesses did it. They demand that the taxpayers should not have to pay for new research, so the government steps up and plans a research study and the business community pays for it. Then after the results come back that there is no serious threat they dismiss the findings because the businesses funded the study. They also complain that the study design couldn’t detect long-term, low-level impacts on the entire population and environment, and therefore the results are inadequate.
They always come up with a non-scientific reason to reject the science.

rd50
Reply to  KTM
October 27, 2015 5:57 am

Indeed! Great reading. Lessons learned? Probably not.

Alcheson
October 26, 2015 9:53 am

Just imagine Gina McCarthy as head of the court. Still want that court?? Didn’t think so.

tommoriarty
October 26, 2015 10:10 am

The first two paragraphs of this essay are among the best I have ever read. They sum up the danger to science that I see today and are profoundly true.

troe
October 26, 2015 10:32 am

Excellent. Good basis to form an agreement to action on. Climate will rise toward front of mind in the coming months. Who knows of a cogent campaign to get this side in.

October 26, 2015 11:09 am

Not to worry.
All that is necessary is to make payment dependent upon actual results, not modeled silliness.
There is always the possibility that the elitists driving the antiscience movement towards forming a new socialist world order will actually achieve their dastardly ends. Again, not a problem; Socialistic coups almost always involve denouncing and executing all of the intelligentsia, so science will get a new chance to start. Eventually.

Marcus
October 26, 2015 12:05 pm

The only reason so many scientists jump onto the alarmist bandwagon is because that’s where the money is !!! If we had a system that provided money EQUALLY to both sides, most scientists would be on the side of ” unadjusted” science !!! IMHO

Rico L
October 26, 2015 12:50 pm

Unfortunately, due to events of recent times, I have had to relegate “Science” into the same bucket as “Religion” – far too much use of the phrase “scientists say…” and “the science is….”
Due to the low fat diet fiasco and the ongoing current climate change super-fiasco (starting with the ice-age predictions of the 1970’s and then swinging to the burn in hell predictions of the 1990’s), I switch off as soon as someone mentions scientists.
So for all the good and true scientists out there – sorry, but you are a tainted brand (tainted by morons and politicians).
Good luck trying to fix it.

October 26, 2015 3:13 pm

Walter Starck wrote (in his WUWT lead post entitled ‘Climate Rationalization, Beliefs and Denialism’ on October 26, 2015),
“The now endemic corruption of science that has been engendered under the banner of climate change could be easily and effectively addressed by the establishment of a science court resourced to investigate and make determinations on prima facie instances of scientific misconduct. The most appropriate penalty might also be to simply disqualify offenders from any further public funding. This would largely avoid the risk of witch hunts or whitewashes and only a few convictions could effect a miracle cure on the malaise now epidemic in environmental research.”

The Walter Starck’s concept of a science court to mitigate against corruption is necessarily just a further corruption of objective science possesses.
I think the corruption Walter Starck speaks of has only one cure. The only cure is no more lack of openness in publically funded research. No more lack of openness in publically funded research means: 1) no more anonymous reviewers in peer review processes so reviewers names should be published immediately when the papers they reviewed are either accepted or rejected or withdraw from review; 2) all peer review related communications of comments and replies by reviewers, editors and authors must be published with an accepted research paper and in the event of rejection of a paper the same info should be made available to the public on request ; 3) all research info (code, data, methodology, sources and conflict of interests) must be published with the research paper and made available for 25 years; 4) Funding body decisions to fund or not to fund research proposals must be made available to the public for 25 years where the info includes names, meeting records and all communications (both of funding body members and the applicant(s) for funds).
With that kind of environment of openness then objective scientific self-correction cannot be stopped by: scientists in cliques; government influences; biased journal boards/editors; NGOs. Corruption, if attempted in that level of openness, must have an extremely short shelf life.
John

Knute
Reply to  John Whitman
October 26, 2015 4:31 pm

JW
Awesome transparency.
Exciting.

rogerknights
October 26, 2015 3:16 pm

Here are links to the basic papers on the science court idea:

1. Science Courts… and Mixed Science-Policy Decisions
http://ipmall.info/risk/vol4/spring/taskfor.htm
The Science Court Experiment: An Interim Report*:
(* Reprinted with permission from 193 Science 654 (1976))
Task Force of the Presidential Advisory Group on Anticipated Advances in Science and Technology**
(** The task force is composed of three members of the presidential advisory group — Dr. Arthur Kantrowitz (chairman), Dr. Donald Kennedy and Dr. Fred Seitz – and [16 others])
2. The Science Court is Dead; Long Live the Science Court!
http://ipmall.info/risk/vol4/spring/field.htm
3, Symposium Index – The Science Court – Pierce Law Center IP Mall
http://ipmall.info/hosted_resources/RISK_Symposium_ScienceCourt.asp
4. The Science Court: A Bibliography. Jon R. Cavicchi*.
http://ipmall.info/risk/vol4/spring/bibliography.htm

Those who decry the idea of a relatively objective and courageous science court as naïve (and thus implicitly consider establishment science as irredeemably corrupt and/or compromised) would likewise have dismissed the idea that the IAC could have delivered an unbiased evaluation of the IPCC. They were wrong there, so their assertions have been falsified.
Here’s a breakthrough idea. Let there be two, three, many science courts! I.e., dozens. Universities and/or scientific societies and/or a collaboration of them would sponsor independent science courts. Most of these courts would specialize on a single topic or group of related topics. A university’s professors would hear cases over the summer vacation. Science courts specializing in the same topic could collaborate (i.e., supply judges for the same case). Everything, or almost everything, could be done over the Internet, using sophisticated software, and archived there. These hearings could be broadcast on the Internet. Science fans could get hooked on watching them, while consuming beer and pizzas, like the rest of society. (These hearings needn’t be about socially important and hotly contested matters. Those would be conversational and low-key.)

Reply to  rogerknights
October 26, 2015 5:34 pm

I maybe wrong but we already are there.
Science Blogs, each with different approaches and visitors.
I admit when discussing CAGW, science takes a back seat, but that is inherent in the team UN IPCC ™ bureaucratic push for policy based evidence manufacturing.
I am starting to wonder if it is not time to agree on defined terms.
What are we discussing?
What have we measured?
What can we say for sure?
What can we rationally infer?
What is now certainly wrong?
Climate Change is a deliberately vague term, it is impossible to have a rational discussion when there is no agreed base.
The CAGW/CCC Cartel of Concerned Parties has never shown any interest in using the scientific method or in engaging in a rational discussion.About says it all as to their motivation.

Knute
Reply to  John Robertson
October 26, 2015 6:43 pm

JR
Perhaps a giant step in the right direction.
At some point WUWT or some other venue needs to be referred to in some decision making court (re Supreme Court) in order to have meaningful impact beyond its current mass communications impact.
Thinking out loud and obviously not sure of the next step but what WUWT has done is a very big step.
Think tanks such as Heartland refer to WUWT as do many competing NGOs. Investigative committees also plow through here as it comes up on Google searches often.

October 26, 2015 5:42 pm

A few comments on the comments:
It has been observed that in the establishment of ideas they are first ridiculed, then they are viciously attacked and finally they are accepted as self-evident. Researchers are now freely engaging in misconduct which violates various laws against fraud, deception, false advertising and various other crimes and torts. This would bring certain prosecution in any other activity and is resulting in very real damage, both social and economic as well as to science itself. To argue against any attempt at legal redress is to effectively maintain that academics are, and should be, above the law. Disqualifying such miscreants from all public funding would be very strong deterrent as it would mean they would face the horror of having to earn an honest living. Surely this would be much more humane, cheaper, effective and productive than jail.
Rather than knee jerk disagreement to consideration of trying anything new, it would be a lot more productive to think about how it (or something even better) might best be implemented.
Some comment was made to the effect that climate alarmists do not deny natural variability. This may be true in principle but in practice they either dismiss abundant evidence of it or make far fetched claims it is somehow caused by AGW.
DAGW is the acronym for Dangerous Anthropogenic Global Warming. I presumed it would be familiar to those interested in climate matters. My apologies.
As for the balance of evidence for and against dangerous man made climate change, it is important to recognize that the alarmist position is highly speculative and thus far is still supported by very limited and uncertain evidence. This includes the computer modelling which continues to diverge from the actual temperature record even with its many adjustments. It is also important to recognize that in contrast to the alarmist claims of high level certainty despite the meager data, the skeptical position is simply one of doubt based on voluminous evidence which conflicts with the alarmist claims of certainty.
If any who are unaware of, or doubt the validity of, the opposing evidence would like to see for themselves, there is now a very extensive list of links which make such information easily accessible:
1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarmism
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html
Even if one is a committed warmist they might want to have a serious look, if for nothing more than to see what they are up against.

Reply to  Walter Starck
October 26, 2015 8:27 pm

Just one small detail.
Government Researchers are engaged in advocacy, not science.
With the full support,encouragement and protection of the bureaucracies who employ them.
The institutions have been subverted.
Another institution run by the same bureaus will redress what?
The sad tale of the Emperors New Clothes AKA CAGW(Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming) is the failure of our watchdog organizations.
The very agencies brought into being following the last outbreaks of mass hysteria, to ensure better government through science based policy making, are now orchestrating this mass hysteria.
Good enough for government Eh?
The UN IPCC is a class wet dream of bureaucrats , near total power and accountable to no taxpayer body on earth.
The only punishment any of these fools and bandits are ever likely to see, will be accidental defunding when our economy finally collapses under their help.

Warren Latham
Reply to  Walter Starck
October 26, 2015 11:39 pm

A comment on your “comments”.
Re: DAWG (Dangerous Anthropogenic Global Warming).
This is bullshit. Such stupid nonsense panders to the bedwetters’ aims.
The expression you need to use is “CLIMATE”.
It is NOT dangerous; it is not man-made; it is not global and it is NOT warming.

Editor
Reply to  Walter Starck
October 28, 2015 10:30 am

Reply to Walter Starck ==> There are (at least) two different simultaneous things going on in the world surrounding Climate.
One is the political/social battle being fought in the media, board room, national legislatures and international bureaucracies known as the Climate Wars. In this arena, there are literally no rules at all — anyone can say and do nearly anything. No matter what is done by anyone in the field, there is someone who perceives that anyone as The Enemy and instantly attacks both the idea presented and the person himself. Ad Hom is the norm. Real Honest Science is the extremely rare exception. Propaganda is the only type of communication issued. This is true for BOTH sides of the conflict. Both sides play by the same rules.
The other is the Climate Science War, which is one of the legitimate Science Wars being fought in journals and professional bodies. There are a lot more than most people realize. Some examples are: The Obesity Wars, The Sugar Wars, the Salt Wars, The Great Barrier Reef Wars, The Polar Bear Wars, The Vaccines Wars, …. I could go on for some time. In a Science War, both sides think that their overall hypothesis is better or truer than the other side’s (eg: Salt is bad and must be reduced for everyone vs. Salt is an important, vital element of mammalian and human diet and forcing population-wide sharp reductions is a dangerous experiment). Each side in a Science War does the best science they can but often their bias prejudices experimental design and interpretations of results. Competing, contradictory papers are fired off like salvos of artillery. Slowly, sometimes ever so slowly, the real world actuality (the “truth”) appears through the smoke and a new “current understanding” has been established. [Often, radical combatants continue to fight after the issue has been generally settled, on the fringes of science.]
So, in the field of Climate we have The Climate Wars — which you appear to be engaged in — and the Climate Science Wars which is being fought in journals.
The two wars do get co-mingled — especially in the Climate field — as some players are fighting both wars at the same time — Gavin A. Schmidt at GISS is an example of this. There are players on the skeptic side you fight both wars as well.
For those of us interested in the Science side, it is particularly important to keep the political/social Climate Wars from muddling our thinking about the Science.
Some people think fighting the Climate Wars is terrifically important. Me? Not so much, but I have an appreciation for those those carry on the battle.

Knute
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 28, 2015 3:45 pm

KH
Unfortunately, sometimes the good work of an honest scientist has to fight through a plethora of out of context use. To be skilled in both good science and quashing misuse elevates the good purely scientific work. You did a fine job in describing the misuse and twisting in a recent essay and while you may not like being dragged into the battle, your good at it.
“Today’s discussion is one way of looking at the current trend in Science in which attempts are made to reduce very complicated dynamic systems to a single number which can then be graphed against time, usually in attempts to do one or more of the following:
to cast blame for the increasing or decreasing number on a substance or action or group, usually incorrectly using two such graphs of single numbers to correlate some single number with some other single number to sell a desired story, usually to cast blame or give credit, usually incorrectly to bring attention to [read this as: to cause public concern or worry about] some rising or falling single number in hopes of generating gain [in research funds, fame, public sympathy, public or political support], usually unwarranted.
These single numbers, meant to somehow illuminate some feature of the real world, are often, maybe almost always, not real numbers representing real things, but imaginary numbers representing concepts that exist, on a pragmatic practical level, only in our imaginations, which may lack meaningfulness and usefulness, or both. In this special sense, we can rightly refer to them as imaginary numbers. And because they are almost never acknowledged as imaginary numbers which require special care in application, each of the three uses above is followed by “usually incorrectly” or “usually unwarranted”.

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 28, 2015 4:08 pm

Reply to Knute ==> Thank you, sir. Most of my stuff is about poor science journalism or the misuse of science — I find the whole Science Wars thing sociologically fascinating — all of them, not just the Climate Science War.

Knute
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 28, 2015 8:07 pm

Scientists are rarely taught that in order for humans to hear the facts, you, the deliver of those facts have to understand their bias.
You do a good job of in your essay by pointing out a typical sequence of fallacies.
1. taking measurements out of context
2. ascribing a degree of certainty that wasn’t meant to be
3. pointing out the overreach to causation.
Humans do that to get some missing need filled. Perfection, approval, apppreciation, “their way” are 4 of the basic behavorial needs that typically come up. Directors of media/movies/etc do the same thing but they use those 4 types to weave imbalanced characters and then take them on the writers journey.
By showing the 1 thru 3 above you gradually plant a seed in the reader and builds him to an awareness he might not have had before or perhaps cracks the door open in a bias he’s maintained.
You perhaps do it unintentionally so I thought I’d point out that you are good at it. Reminds me a little bit of John Stossels (US) approach.
I agree that it’s a whole sociological puzzle much in the way risk that we personally assume is much greater than the risk others do to us. It’s that whole volition/free will streak in humans yet we willing allow ourselves to be led by half truths and pseudoscience and magical fantasies of Xenu. We able little messes that will always have some bias.
I encourage you to dig into the fray some more. The less words the better and the more subtle steering to a revelation even better. The intriguing thing about all humans is that many of these biases are subconscious patterns developed in youth to function in an adult world. Adults hang on to those patterns usually unknowingly.
You’d be doing science and the reader a great favor if you gave us some more gems.

Steve Fraser
October 26, 2015 7:51 pm

Engaging commentary by all!
From my perspective, the combat between competing representations of the truth needs to have ‘skin in the game’ at the scientist and journal level. Right now, there is no obvious financial or career downside for publishing bulls@t, for the investigator, the journal, or the reviewer. That could be changed if everyone goes ‘at risk’ at some point in the process.
At the peer-reviewer level, you get cred for defensible ( and actually defended) reviewed papers. You get a ding if one of your papers gets refuted, or (gasp) retracted.
Same scores accrue at the journal level, and for the individual scientist, and for the organization for which they work.
On the other side… You get cred when you debunk, refute,..again, you are at risk too, and so are your publishers.
Why not also, while at it, have actual conferences structured as debates, with an equal number of presenters, on a Lincoln- Douglas-style format…
Resolved: the North American temperature history, as recorded by surface temperature stations, is not a reliable input on which to base climate trends or policy.
…could be fun.