This is funny:
“According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions “are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“
“A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.Johnny Leclair, assistant commissioner for the Coast Guard, said Tuesday conditions in the area are the worst he’s seen in 20 years.”
Full story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/ccgs-amundsen-re-routed-to-hudson-bay-to-help-with-heavy-ice-1.3162900
There is a still a lot of ice up there:
![N_bm_extent[1]](https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/n_bm_extent1.png?quality=75)
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_bm_extent.png
h/t to WUWT reader “catcracking”
Our very own Canadian weather network is also beating the drum on Global Warming, despite this being one of the coolest starts to summer that I have seen in fifty years. They say the this El Nino year will make 2015 the hottest on record after a record breaking June. No wonder people turn them off and tune them out, as I do, and don’t believe a word they say.
that last post by nz willy looks worthy of further investigation,possibly a topic all of its own.
Meanwhile back on the supply ship my step son is working on and running a couple of weeks behind his comment on global warming global warming is BS the ice is clearing up but not very fast even the ice breaker is stuck in the ice – 5 right now
See the latest from the scientific team on the icebreaker: http://blogs.ubc.ca/geotraces2015/2015/07/23/day14 — “ice for miles” says the caption to the bottom photo which is of ridged ice — not going to melt anytime soon.
They will not give up on the con. Everything else they have touched has turned to sh*t. They have one and a half more years to get their global taxation system in place.
“…global warming put on hold because of too much ice”
There, I fixed the title for you.
Last winter and to some extend the one before were not normal. The jet stream was way out of place which caused the Pacific coast of the US, Canada and Alaska to be so warm that there was hardly any snow, with record breaking temperatures. Ski area’s never opened, mountain snow pack was less than a third of average creating drinking water problems and a very active forest fire season of which we have only seen the beginning. By official end of winter there had been over 4000 high temperature records in the western US, compared to only just over 200 cold records in the NE. Even now the summer has been very dry and very hot. Eastern Canada and the NE US got cold air from Siberia…. not the typical central Canadian cold air. The Pacific Ocean has a big “blob” of very warm water that has never been there before, which is keeping the salmon away, playing havoc with Orca’s, sea lions and other wildlife. It is silly when the city of Forks, located in the rain forest of the Olympic peninsule of Washington and gets 21 feet of rain a year, needs to impose water restrictions because there is no water. It has not rained for a long time.
Just the fact that it is unusally cold in a small area, yet unusually warm in a large area somewhere else does not mean there is no global warming. All our weather is the result of temperature differences, and a jetstream that is way out of place is one of them. Because you are in a place where it is cold, somewhere else it is warm, maybe just too warm. Something happening half a world away from you can impact you in a strange way.
Opening your eyes and see what is happening in the rest of the world besides your little corner might give you a better perspective. Why was there no snow for the Iditarod sled race in Alaska, yet there is too much snow in Boston. Why did the ice cap disappear of Mt. Kilimanjaro, yet the Hudson Bay has more ice, and in Greenland ice caves are meling away. It is all connected.
Warmer than “normal” is what they have.
To call the water “very warm” without mentioning that it is simply not as cold as usual could be a bit deceptive to those who are not well informed.
If one looks at anomaly charts, it is all bright red, but if one looks at temperature charts, it looks less alarming.
Nick, you are making it sound like the water there has never been warmer than normal, or that large areas of above average anomalies are unheard of, or that temperature records for the sea surface are being set.
If any of those things are true, I would like to see the data.
Certainly there is a blob of warmer than normal water, but in most places off the west coast of the US, and unprotected person would freeze to death within a few minutes to a few hours.
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/fields/FS_km5001.gif
‘Scuse me, should be “an unprotected person…”
And I should say “die of hypothermia” not “freeze to death”, although if one found one’s self in that water, far from land, I do not think the difference would be worth pondering.
It is unusually dry o the Olympic peninsula this year, but it is normally far drier there in summer than winter.
Yearly rainfall pattern for Forks:
http://pics2.city-data.com/w3q/prcq27085.png
And hey, looks like the will get some much needed rain:
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USWA0149:1:US
As for Mount Kilimanjaro, tale of the ice’s demise are much exaggerated.
Maybe it is you who needs to open your eyes…to the mindless hysteria and failed predictions of doomsday.
Besides, if the ice melted on that mountain, it would mean more water for those people that depend on it. If the glaciers advance, it means more of the precipitation stays locked up and unavailable. By definition, ice is not water, and glaciers are water that has not melted but accumulated in an unusable form for many years. Colder is usually drier.
The Serengeti has been doing better recently, not worse. One reason is that the plants there need less water due to CO2 being much higher.
Forgot the link:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/07/kilimanjaro-glaciers-just-wont-die-nowhere-near-extinction/
BTW, Greenland had it’s latest melt season in recent memory. The Capital city there is having it’s coldest year in decades, ice gain for the entire Island since last September is in the hundreds of billions of tonnes, and overall, their has been no global warming for over 18 years, using data from the most accurate and complete instruments available:
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1995/to:2015
http://beta.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/
Menicholas,
Thanks for the outstanding correction to the false claims by Nick. Besides you provided several excellent links which substantiate your points. I knew as soon as he mentioned Kilimanjaro the post was mostly BS
Amusing, since it’s only weeks to the most navigable time of year there. (Resupply to Cambridge Bay and Resolute Bay is traditionally in August, many barges and ships.)
So reminiscent of the similar failed Antarctica expedition of Dr Chris Turney and his ship of fools who got stranded in December 2013.
I read a story last week that said there was a 33% increase in Arctic ice in 2013-2014. I don’t recall seeing this increase in the NSIDC graphs.