The Obama climate monarchy

Using the EPA, CEQ and other federal agencies to fundamentally transform America

president_official_portrait_hiresGuest essay by Paul Driessen

ISIS terrorists continue to butcher people, while hacking into a French television network. Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons remains on track. In a nation of 320 million people, American businesses hired only 126,000 workers in March, amid a pathetic 62% labor participation rate. Wages and incomes are stagnant.

And yet President Obama remains fixated on one obsession: dangerous manmade climate change. He blames it for everything from global temperatures that have been stable for 18 years, to hurricanes that have not made US landfall for nearly 9.5 years, and even asthma and allergies. He is determined to use it to impose energy, environmental and economic policies that will “fundamentally transform” our nation.

He launched his war on coal with a promise that companies trying to build new coal-fired power plants would go bankrupt; implemented policies that caused oil and gas production to plunge 6% on federal lands, even as it rose 60% on state and private lands; proclaimed that he will compel the United States to slash its carbon dioxide emissions 28% below 2005 levels by 2025, and 80% by 2050; and wants electricity prices to “necessarily skyrocket.” His Environmental Protection Agency has led the charge.

EPA has targeted power plants that emit barely 3% of all mercury in US air and water, saying this will prevent IQ losses of an undetectable “0.00209 points.” On top of its recent “Clean Power Plan,” EPA is taking over what used to be state roles, demanding that states meet CO2-reduction mandates by reorganizing the “production, distribution and use of electricity.” The agency justifies this latest power grab through a tortured 1,200-page reinterpretation of a 290-word section of the Clean Air Act.

The injuries, abuses and usurpations have become too numerous to count, and involve nearly every federal agency – as the President seeks to make the states and Executive and Judicial Branches irrelevant in his new monarchical “do as I tell you, because I say so, or else” system of government.

Now even the Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) is getting involved, by dramatically retooling the 1970 National Environmental Policy Act. NEPA requires that federal agencies consider the impacts of their significant decision-making actions on “the quality of the human environment,” anytime they issue permits for projects, provide government funding or conduct the projects themselves.

The law has avoided many needless impacts but has also enabled activists to delay or block projects they oppose on ideological grounds. The new White House/CEQ “guidelines” were issued on Christmas Eve 2014, to minimize public awareness and response. They require that federal agencies henceforth consider potential impacts on climate change, whenever they provide permits, approvals or funding for any federal, state or private sector projects, on the assumption that such projects will always affect Earth’s climate.

Problems with the new diktats are far too numerous for a single article, but several demand discussion.

First, CEQ uses US carbon dioxide emissions as proxy for climate change. This assumes CO2 is now the dominant factor in climate and weather events, and all the powerful natural forces that ruled in past centuries, millennia and eons are irrelevant. It presumes any increases in US “greenhouse gases” correlate directly with national and global climate and weather events, and any changes will be harmful. It also considers emissions from China and other countries to be irrelevant to any agency calculations.

Second, CEQ employs the same “social cost of carbon” analyses that other agencies are using to justify appliance, vehicle and other efficiency and emission standards. This SCC assessment will now examine alleged international harm up to 300 years in the future, from single project emissions in the United States, despite it being impossible to demonstrate any proximate relationship between asserted global climate changes and any US project emissions (which are generally minuscule globally).

Moreover, the entire SCC analysis is based on arbitrary, fabricated, exaggerated and manipulated costs, with no benefits assigned or acknowledged for using hydrocarbons to improve, safeguard and save countless lives – or for the role that rising atmospheric carbon dioxide plays in improving crop and other plant growth, thereby feeding more people, greening our planet and bolstering wildlife habitats.

Third, the expensive, time-consuming, useless, impossible exercise is made even more absurd by CEQ’s proposed requirement that agencies somehow calculate the adverse global climatic impacts of any federally approved project that could emit up to 25,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide or its equivalents per year. A single shopping mall, hospital or stretch of busy highway could meet this threshold – triggering endless “paralysis by analysis,” environmentalist litigation, delays and cost overruns.

Fourth, CEQ also wants agencies to somehow evaluate “upstream” and “downstream” emissions. In cases reviewing highway or hospital projects, this would entail examining emissions associated with mining, processing, shipping and using cement, steel, other building materials and heavy equipment before and during construction – and then assessing emissions associated with people and goods that might conceivably be transported to or from the facility or along the highway following construction.

CEQ likewise wants project proponents to offset these alleged impacts with equally spurious mitigation projects, which will themselves by subjected to still more analyses, contention, litigation and delays.

Fifth, the proposed CEQ guidelines would supposedly evaluate any and all adverse impacts allegedly caused by climate changes supposedly resulting from fossil fuel use and CO2 emissions. But they do not require federal agencies to assess harms resulting from projects delayed or blocked because of the new climate directives. Thus agencies would endlessly ponder rising seas and more frequent and/or severe hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts that they might attribute to particular projects.

However, they would not consider the many ways people would be made less safe by an analytical process that results in more serious injuries and deaths, when highway improvements, better levees and other flood protections, modern hospitals and other important facilities are delayed or never built.

Nor has CEQ factored in the roles of ideologically motivated anti-development bureaucrats in the federal agencies – or the ways Big Green campaigns and lawsuits are sponsored by wealthy far-left foundations, Russian money laundered through a Bermuda law firm, and even grants from the government agencies.

Sixth, in many cases, the CEQ rules could actually be counterproductive even to the Administration’s purported energy and environmental goals. Its war on coal is intended to replace coal mines and power plants with “more climate-friendly” natural gas. However, CEQ’s new guidelines for methane and carbon dioxide could delay or prevent leasing, drilling, fracking, production, pipelining and export of new gas. That would hardly seem a desirable outcome – unless the real purpose is to keep fossil fuels in the ground, increase energy prices, compel a faster transition to unreliable wind and solar power, cause more brownouts and blackouts, destroy jobs, reduce living standards, and keep more people dependent on government welfare and thus likely to vote Democrat.

NEPA is supposed to improve the overall “quality of the human environment,” and thus human health and welfare. That means all its components, not merely those the President and his Executive Branch agencies want to focus on, as they seek to use climate change to justify shutting down as much fossil fuel use as possible, in an economy that is still 82% dependent on hydrocarbons.

The CEQ and White House violate the letter, spirit and intent of NEPA when they abuse it to protect us from exaggerated or imaginary climate risks decades from now – by hobbling job creation, families, human health and welfare, and environmental quality tomorrow. That their actions will impact poor, minorities and working classes most of all makes the CEQ proposal even more pernicious.

When will our Congress, courts and state legislatures step up to the plate, do their jobs, and rein in this long Train of Abuses and Usurpations?

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org), author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power – Black death and coauthor of Cracking Big Green: Saving the world from the Save-the-Earth money machine.

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April 12, 2015 5:35 pm

“When will our Congress, courts and state legislatures step up to the plate, do their jobs, and rein in this long Train of Abuses and Usurpations?”
When Obamao finally leaves the White House. Let’s just hope enough people finally wise up soon enough to keep his clone in chief Hillary out of the White House in 2016. Otherwise, the beat will go on, and then God help us all.

Patrick
Reply to  kamikazedave
April 12, 2015 5:50 pm

I am not American and do lot live in the US but when Obama came to power, I sighed. When he came to power *AGAIN* I sighed even more. If Hillary comes to power in 2016, and I think this is a strong possibility not for her ability or views, but simply because of her genes, she’s a woman. The first US female President? She’s no Thatcher. The US has had it’s first “black” president. I fear for your first female President. This post is not meant to be racist nor sexist, just an external observation.

Scott
Reply to  Patrick
April 12, 2015 6:18 pm

And Patrick…..A very good one!

dp
Reply to  Patrick
April 12, 2015 6:53 pm

If I could make any recommendation for the next election it would be “No more Bushes, no more Clintons, and no more social experiments”. I’d like to think the political landscape has changed since Reagan left office but the current crop of POTUS wanna-be’s suggest otherwise. I’d also like to see a return of the checks and balances the founders wisely put into the governmental structure but that would take more backbone than our beltway bandits possess.

Aussiebear
Reply to  Patrick
April 12, 2015 9:36 pm

I am a 19 year ex-pat American, now a citizen of Australia for the last 13. My option of Obama in his first term was positive. Again this is from an outsider looking in. During a trip back to The States a few years back, my Mum and I had a rather heated discussion regarding Mr Obama’s performance. She was decidedly less than impressed, after all she lives there, I don’t.
I must say that perception has taken a 180 during his second term.. With regards to The Hil-da-beast prospect in 2016. God help you.

Reply to  Aussiebear
April 13, 2015 4:17 am


At a news conference early Feb. 2015 in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.
“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.
The CC hoax is an ideological means to an end, using Gov’t power and their unlimited funds. The future of W. developed countries is dim, unless funding for all the involved culprits is slashed dramatically.

Editor
Reply to  Patrick
April 12, 2015 10:43 pm

Ben Carson. Carly Fiorina. The Democrats don’t have race or gender monopoly.

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  Patrick
April 12, 2015 11:47 pm

We have had a run of mediocre US Presidents of all hues over the last decade or two and few of the hopefuls for 2016 look much better.
However, I was intrigued by this sentence in the article;
‘The agency justifies this latest power grab through a tortured 1,200-page reinterpretation of a 290-word section of the Clean Air Act..’
I did not see what the 290 words actually were nor what they have been reinterpreted to. Can we have some clarification please?
tonyb

johnmarshall
Reply to  Patrick
April 13, 2015 3:08 am

I agree, the Clinton genes are not good. She is an elderly white woman, not a good CV for President.

Joe Civis
Reply to  Patrick
April 13, 2015 3:45 pm

I agree….. to paraphrase….. I have a dream that one day the most qualified candidate will be elected.
Cheers,
Joe

Eamon Butler
Reply to  Patrick
April 13, 2015 4:46 pm

Maybe Michelle is waiting for her turn, to be the first Female, Black POTUS.
Eamon.

clive hoskin
Reply to  Patrick
April 13, 2015 6:10 pm

If you need any proof that a “Female in the White House”would be better,look no further than our own “Worst Prime Minister”Julia Gillard.With-out a doubt she would put you off voting for the “Hildabeast”God help us all if she gets in.

William
Reply to  kamikazedave
April 12, 2015 11:42 pm

Tragically, we are all screwed.
Remember, that the American people elected Obama. Not just once, but twice.
Given that these same people will be voting in the next election, why would anything change?
Stupid is as stupid does, and we see abysmal stupidity every day. And not just in the White House.

AB
Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 1:26 am

An african american friend out of blue recently told me that she had voted for Obama twice and that she now bitterly regretted having done so.

Brute
Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 2:31 am

The electorate is not voting people into office on account of their legislative or administrative capacity. The electorate is voting on a soap opera and there is really no difference between “Days of our lives” and “General hospital”. Democrats and Republicans will continue swapping power because public opinion amounts to gossip over hairdos.
The political agenda itself is not political at all. The demagogy might be political (occasionally) but the actual actions of the White House are seldom politically coherent. Consider that, after all, the Nobel Peace Prize at the Oval office is just another war maniac that has been for years having “foreign nationals” illegally detained, tortured, and assassinated. This is no figure of speech.
In short, the electorate could put a cucumber into office if that cucumber “hit the spot”. Furthermore, the actions of the next US government can make “climate change” its raison d’être or avoid it entirely, be that next government Democrat or Republican.

MarkW
Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 7:46 am

AB, what are the odds that your friend will still vote for who ever the Democrats run next year?

Yirgach
Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 10:03 am

Unfortunately I think you are correct. After 8 years in office, Obama has carefully crafted support through enormous government handouts, as well as added hundreds of thousands of “immigrants” to the system. This is the so called Free Shit Army which will strongly continue to vote for more and more of it. I doubt this country will ever see a non-Democrat President until after the “great reform”.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Yirgach
April 13, 2015 11:09 am

Would that there only hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens.
“Only” as many as 20 million is the best case estimate. More realistically estimated at 30 million illegal aliens.

Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 11:19 am

RACook,
Thirty million is a conservative estimate. And there are many thousands more flooding across the long U.S.–Mexico border every month, encouranged by both the U.S. and Mexican governments. This includes thousands of children every month!
They learned a lesson from 1980, when President Carter foolishly goaded Fidel Castro into releasing Cubans who wanted to leave.
What happened? Castro emptied his prisons and his insane asylums, and sent more than 100,000 “Marielitos” to the U.S. in what was called the ‘Mariel Boatlift’. Cuban-Americans hated them because they were nothing but trouble for everyone.
Today they are sending their druggies, misfits, gangbangers, lunatics, criminals, and orphans across, to be taken care of for life by the hard-bitten american taxpayer.
Thanks, Obama.

Brute
Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 1:10 pm

Right. The “mexicans” did it. Particularly the gazillion illegal ones. Those are the voters that decide elections.
As I said, a soap opera…

milodonharlani
Reply to  William
April 13, 2015 3:46 pm

DB:
You forgot “diseased”. Health problems that the US had solved have again reared their ugly heads because of uncontrolled immigration.

nutso fasst
Reply to  kamikazedave
April 13, 2015 9:10 am

climatereason:
Yes, it would be nice to have references, wouldn’t it?
I believe the EPA started by declaring GHGs as pollutants from motor vehicles under Title II, Section 202(a)(1) of the Clean Air Act:
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/Downloads/endangerment/Endangerment_TSD.pdf
Once so declared as “pollutants,” they became applicable to fixed sources under Title I, Part C.
I cannot find the 1200-page reinterpretation or 290-word section referred to by Mr. Driessen.

Reply to  kamikazedave
April 13, 2015 11:37 am

Have you seen the alternatives? Jeb Bush? Did you not learn your lesson from Dubya?

D.J. Hawkins
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
April 13, 2015 2:53 pm

I hold no brief for Jeb, who is really a RHINO. Better him though, than the Beast from Hell.

D.J. Hawkins
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
April 13, 2015 2:54 pm

*Sigh* RINO, no “H”.

milodonharlani
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
April 13, 2015 3:51 pm

I’m a registered Independent, but will vote in the GOP primary next year. My present choice is anybody but Bush. The GOP has an embarrassment of riches in candidates this go-round, instead of just plain embarrassments.
But even RINO Jeb is infinitely preferable to Hitlery, the candidate of tax consumers rather than payers.

Reply to  kamikazedave
April 13, 2015 3:42 pm

Hillary isn’t a Obama clone, I’d classify her as Obama’s philosophical progenitor, deep down I suspect Obama’s real role was to pave the way for Hillary. Federalized healthcare was a long-time Hillary project from her days as First Lady finally put into effect by Obama, Filegate has striking parallels with the IRS scandels involving conservative non-profits applications.

ossqss
April 12, 2015 5:46 pm

The digitization of society has an impact.

PiperPaul
Reply to  ossqss
April 12, 2015 6:23 pm

Are you saying that we’re getting the finger?

ossqss
Reply to  PiperPaul
April 12, 2015 7:18 pm

Probably,,,,,, the fat finger. Think about it…..

April 12, 2015 5:49 pm

He’s also been dicking around with Alaska trying to make the Alaska oil pipeline dry up. There’s no other way to say it. He and his cronies want to make Alaska into a total National Park so that no further natural resources can be developed there. Another reason to be very careful who we choose for the next POTUS. (president). And in addition, who we elect in Congress and in the Senate…
I have my eye on several candidates who I will contribute to. and I have never got involved in politics directly before, but this is not science but pure politics…
Find out which ones want to eliminate the EPA, and support them – DIRECTLY, not their “party”.

icouldahad
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 13, 2015 6:17 pm

Well, the Alaskan House just passed a bill that ‘orders’ a federal land transfer.
“Rejecting the advice of its legal sraff, the Alaskan House of Representatives approved a bill Monday ordering the federal government to hand over most federal land in Alaska to the state by Dec 31, 2016….”
Of course, the democRats are up in arms over this, but looky here:
“Anchorage Republican Rep Gabrielle LeDoux compared it to the marijuana initiative approved by voters last fall and similar actions in Colorado and elsewhere: “Guess what? the federal government blinks. If enough states do it, if enough states say what they want and say we’re going to take it, we just might get what we want.”
https://www.adn.com/article/20150406/alaska-house-brushes-constitutional-claims-orders-massive-federal-land-transfer
And I agree, never fund the party, just the candidate.

markl
April 12, 2015 5:55 pm

Vote, it’s our only hope. This is a political issue and should be treated that way. If it’s not obvious to everyone the real goal is wealth distribution and central government, not temperature control.

Unmentionable
Reply to  markl
April 12, 2015 6:26 pm

Far from if Markl,
If a government is running amok you can simply declare a 1 week nation wide strike to bring it to heal. If that is not enough do another 4 weeks, if that does not work shutdown the entire economy and financial system for 3 months of sustained national strike. At some point Obama and his crew will either relent his powers of Emperor and do as indicated, or be ousted. Voting clearly has not worked, it got everyone to this dictatorial foolishness.
Voting within that morass isn’t going to fix a thing.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Unmentionable
April 12, 2015 6:35 pm

The Obama response is likely to be martial law. Then where are we?

Unmentionable
Reply to  Unmentionable
April 12, 2015 7:27 pm

A reminder of some of the articles of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights as a path for effectively dealing with a government that is running roughshod over the people.
Article 7.
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 20.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
Article 21.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 23.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

You can organize to strike to protect your interests from exploitation and dictate.
You do not have to go on to the street to strike as public meetings and forums can be virtual. In fact it would be best to no protest at all, you are striking not protesting. These are different things, and one need not produce or occur in parallel to the other.
You can mass withdraw trade and labor and leave it at that until the government is forced to relent.
Martial Law would be ineffectual, the system has no effective recourse or counter to a nation wide withdrawal of labor.
Remain away from confrontation and do it in an orderly peaceful manner and clearly know and concisely declare the objectives, and stick to them until achieved.
A malign government will be forced to submit or will be dissolved or ousted if the whole country does that.
No sordid or confrontational behavior is necessary.
It is your right to freely associate and speak freely and to not be infringed upon while doing so, and to organize and withdraw trade or labor as needed, if necessary.
Be civil, be smart, don’t be a victim of voting for this endless dictates and arbitrary excesses and abuses of power.
Don’t start a fight, start to win back control from overlordish behavior and nonsense vindictive laws, over reach and abuse.
That is a perfectly valid and just civil recourse.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Unmentionable
April 12, 2015 10:46 pm

Unmentionable. I agree that the strikes you propose would result in martial law, and that might be followed by much worse. As long as the Republican leadership campaign for what the public wants and then after election roll over for Obama nothing will change. Also, please consider that the Democrats (radical leftist) maintain a dependency servitude of 50-100 million people plus their cronies in the big technical industries, The dependents vote Democrat to keep the welfare and socialism growing, illegal aliens vote for Democrats to keep the border open, and large tech companies distribute a few million $ each to the Democrat party and derive untold $ billions in crony deals, payoffs, etc. With such support for the Democrat Party, which all block vote for Democrats, and with such cowardly Republicans, the future for America looks grim.

Reply to  Unmentionable
April 13, 2015 4:57 am

Someone once remarked if voting could change things those in power wold make it illegal.

Yirgach
Reply to  Unmentionable
April 13, 2015 10:06 am

A national strike?
The US isn’t France…

icouldahad
Reply to  Unmentionable
April 13, 2015 6:01 pm

@Unmentionable
I find it difficult to concede to anything the United Nations dictates, especially its fake ‘declarations of rights’. We have our Declaration of Independance and Constitution and don’t need no stinkin’ UN to tell us what our rights are. Besides, according to the UN those rights are GRANTED TO YOU through the generosity of the bureaurocracy whereas real Americans know our rights are NATURAL/God given and no ‘government’ can strip them from you.
This trouble with bureaucratic supremecy began with FDR’s New Deal and the creation of the Federal Register. The Constitution says only Congress can pass laws but then Congress gave away its power by accepting these sinecures’ rules, regulations and codes as law and allowed them to bypass Congress’ own power. Unless Congress grows a pair and takes back their power, we’re doomed.
And why do all these bureaucracies fall under the Executive chair? If they are passing what becomes in effect ‘law’, they should fall under the Legislative Branch.
Everything these departments propose should have to pass through Congress for a vote, but since that will never happen we will just have to wait for the whole thing to collapse so we can start again with, God willing, something better. The Constitution needs to be tightened up like a boa constrictor on its prey.
I would love a pesidential candidate that would do away with the EPA and the hundred other abc sinecures that wreck havoc on America.

April 12, 2015 5:56 pm

Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
COP21 is only 7 months away!

Neville
April 12, 2015 6:04 pm

Meanwhile the EIA projections show that the non OECD ( China, India etc) will emit over 90% of increased co2 emissions until 2040. The Western countries have gone barking mad.
They will spend trillions of dollars over this period for a guaranteed zero change to co2 levels and temps. This giant con and PONZI scheme makes Bernie Madoff look like an economic conservative and rational thinker.

SmoothCriminal
April 12, 2015 6:07 pm

Mr. Paul Driessen – a very clear and excellent writing.

Reply to  SmoothCriminal
April 12, 2015 7:50 pm

+1

Kirkc
April 12, 2015 6:09 pm

Kamikazedave…..Your God I hate posts that end in “God help us all”. Just vote as you feel appropriate and otherwise suck it up. Your God will not bail you out of the self imagined hell you find yourself in. Write letters and complain to the people who count …if you want any chance at change. When did this site become 97% political?

markl
Reply to  Kirkc
April 12, 2015 6:23 pm

Kirkc commented:. When did this site become 97% political?
When it became obvious that the problem is political and not scientific. I enjoy reading the technical comments and understand most of them and need to research a lot to understand the rest but being technically ‘right’ with respect to AGW means nothing in case you haven’t noticed. It’s mutual mental masturbation. The 97% you despise are actually trying to fix the problem.

Reply to  markl
April 13, 2015 11:40 am

It has always been a political site supporting right wing politics. In the run up to the US and UK elections we can expect a higher level of electioneering on behalf of the Conservative parties than usual. It confirms the fact that many many skeptics are opposed to accepted climate science for political as opposed to scientific reasons.

D.J. Hawkins
Reply to  markl
April 13, 2015 2:59 pm

“Right wing politics” eh? I don’t think either Willis Eschenbach or Richard Courtney will thank you for that characterization.

Reply to  Kirkc
April 12, 2015 6:50 pm

” When did this site become 97% political?”
I’m not sure, Kirkc. Perhaps when CAGW became 100% political?

clipe
Reply to  Kirkc
April 12, 2015 7:23 pm

I’m not a religious person but why does the mention of “God” frighten you so?

Reply to  Kirkc
April 13, 2015 2:25 am

God Help Us All!

Mac the Knife
Reply to  Kirkc
April 13, 2015 11:29 am

God Bless Us, Everyone!

April 12, 2015 6:11 pm

Speaking of mercury, I remember using Mercurochrome as an antiseptic in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s – and never had any adverse effects on me that I know. The FDA now bans it in the USA but I know doctors that get Mercurochrome in Mexico and still use it as the best local antiseptic I live here in Mexico.
(of course some of my liberal friends probably think that my brain has been affected.)
On a different subject, I remember in the 50s that shoe stores had x-ray machines that you could see your toes wiggle in your shoes. So far I haven’t gotten cancer of the feet, but I’ll let you know if it happens.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 6:51 pm

oh, yeah! fluoroscopic footwear fitters! When radiology was a brand new toy…

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
April 12, 2015 6:54 pm

Remember the scare over the glow in the dark stuff?

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 7:26 pm

I used to play with mercury with my fingers if my mother broke a thermometer, and even in science class, and I remember Mercurochrome. I mainly remember how much it stung. I didn’t know it had mercury in it.

Gilbert K. Arnold
Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 13, 2015 6:33 am

Tom: IIRC Mercurochrome was used because it didn’t sting. Tincture of Iodine was the one that stung. It was the same color as Mercurochrome.

Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 13, 2015 12:51 pm

We had merthiolate, which did sting badly. When I was a tad, I really hated it when we ran out of Mercurochrome and had to rely on merthiolate, because it always turned a minor cut or scratch into a major injury (in my little mind, anyway).

April 12, 2015 6:14 pm

Reblogged this on Human Relationships and commented:
The Obama climate monarchy

April 12, 2015 6:16 pm

I would love to see a debate between Hillary and Ted Cruz. It’s probably not going to happen, because the GOP will probably back another progressive (moderate) republican – I hope not.

Andrew
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 13, 2015 12:40 am

What’s “progressive” about returning to 1800s Marxism / WW1 Leninism, pre-1950 power generation, 1960s gender and race wars, pre-1980 Iran reconciliation, repealing the constitution, pre-1900 Alaska development the anti-vax Luddites, and every other unwinding of the progress of the past century?
Obama is a Regressive. So is Hillary. So are the BANANAs in Oz. In fact, the mere mention of the P-word guarantees that the speaker is a Regressive.

icouldahad
Reply to  Andrew
April 13, 2015 6:24 pm

+10000000000000000 etc
I am going to use this. Thank you!

April 12, 2015 6:17 pm

Ted Cruz is a masterdebater – no pun intended.

April 12, 2015 6:19 pm

Problem is that Obama and his like have taken over “science” – you (I) have to fight it.

April 12, 2015 6:21 pm

@j.peter
Science became completely political when funding for science became a gov’t function

Reply to  kokoda
April 12, 2015 6:24 pm

Agree

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 6:47 pm

@j.peter
1. what is your point?
2. what was required to win WW2 – total gov’t control of everything. It is possible that some time after WW2, that gov’t became the funding source for science, the uni science, education, etc. How do you think Common Crap, er, Core came into existence – the ov’t waved a lot of money in front of all the Governor’s faces; politicians never turn down money. This will create a full generation of stupids – maybe that is what they want.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 6:51 pm

OOPS- j.peter with another logical fallacy…

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 6:56 pm

An absolutely useless and ignorant question.
Only a troll could get so confused.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 7:02 pm

Peter, shouldn’t the govt. be funding a thorium project?

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 7:08 pm

@Dawtgtomis…Clinton, in his wisdom, shut down the dept working on advanced nuclear designs.

swwilkes
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 7:52 pm

j.peter “The point is the Manhattan project was not political, it was supported by both sides” What a crock no one outside of a few in the executive branch knew a thing about the Manhattan Project. For chrissakes you idiot even the vice president didn’t know. What a loon.

Reply to  kokoda
April 12, 2015 7:16 pm

@j.peter – don’t disagree with your last comment(s), but to me that is zeitgeist; today, you cannot get a science grant unless it is something the gov’t wants. Today, especially under Obama, the gov’t wants studies to show anecdotal evidence supporting GloBull Warming. Science has been captured.

Reply to  kokoda
April 12, 2015 7:41 pm

Speaking of the Manhattan Project, I proposed a Manhattan Project on on developing ANWR in Alaska to keep the oil flowing, but only the Alaskans agree. They say it would take 10 years to get oil from there, but if I was president, it would take less than 1 year…it can be done – Drill Baby Drill…

MarkW
Reply to  kokoda
April 13, 2015 7:55 am

J.Phillip,
It would take 10 years, however they have been blocking it for over 20 years.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  kokoda
April 12, 2015 10:53 pm

Agree, science is now political in the USA and throughout most of the world. Too much government money flowing to left wing universities and social scientists for more and more “science” of global warming studies.

April 12, 2015 6:24 pm

I think the whole thing about the EPA is about science (and the lack of it in policy) – same with Alaska and other federal lands etc.

F. Ross
April 12, 2015 6:24 pm

Time left until Obama leaves office: 648 days as of 4/12/2015

imoira
Reply to  F. Ross
April 12, 2015 7:12 pm

We can hope for that change.

Reply to  F. Ross
April 12, 2015 9:37 pm

And he is working hard to have a new position in UNGG, UN Global Government?

Alx
April 12, 2015 6:31 pm

Unfortunately a high school dropout, barely cogent drunk living under a bridge provide betters oversight on our Obama shenanigans than the MSM. CNN has a headline currently running, “Glaciers Melting?”. The question mark is a nice touch, it basically allows a journalist claim anything without really claiming it. The author of the article is Bill Weir, so I guess anyone could write an article, “Is Bill Weir a paid operative for the White House?”
I don’t know if he is getting paid by the WH, but I do know he is an idiot. He does not even get the irony of including in his own article that 600 years ago, when the glaciers were growing around Chamonix, local bishops tried to exorcise the demons in the ice to keep it from devouring forests and crops.
Yes you moron Weir, cold bad, warm good.

Reply to  Alx
April 12, 2015 7:00 pm

“…that 600 years ago, when the glaciers were growing around Chamonix, local bishops tried to exorcise the demons in the ice…”
I was wondering where all the climastrologists and AGW trolls came from…

swwilkes
Reply to  ATheoK
April 12, 2015 8:25 pm

“I was wondering where all the climastrologists and AGW trolls came from…” Good one.

Tom J
April 12, 2015 6:35 pm

I wonder if there’s anybody out there who’d like to join me in some investments. I’d like to set up a futures market in tar. Oh, and also make an investment in a manufacturing facility that can make large cast iron pots that can both hold tar and swivel downward to pour it out. And, after that, I’d like to start a second futures market in bird feathers. Lots and lots of bird feathers.

Reply to  Tom J
April 12, 2015 7:06 pm

Nah – add up 95% of the politicians, all the Banksters, all the owners of MSM, and a miscellaneous category and these wouldn’t be enuf to make the venture profitable. Unless we could air it on pay-per-view; potential for hundreds of millions or a few billion; it would be similar to attendance at the Roman arena.

Reply to  Tom J
April 12, 2015 7:19 pm

Feathers are so passé.
Use porcupine quills and cactus needles instead; they’ll help to keep the wearer’s attention on real problems rather than fake ones.

April 12, 2015 6:38 pm

“Fourth, CEQ also wants agencies to somehow evaluate “upstream” and “downstream” emissions. In cases reviewing highway or hospital projects, this would entail examining emissions associated with mining, processing, shipping and using cement, steel, other building materials and heavy equipment before and during construction – and then assessing emissions associated with people and goods that might conceivably be transported to or from the facility or along the highway following construction.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
As long as wind and solar have to follow the same rules …

Reply to  Wayne Delbeke
April 13, 2015 5:12 am

Of course wind, solar and burning biomass will all be exempted from these rules.

theBuckWheat
April 12, 2015 6:47 pm

I am waiting peer-reviewed research that shows the optimum climate for our biosphere. The first question that would naturally flow would be where is our current climate and trend in relation to this finding.
Strangely, nobody seems interested in this vital comparison. Not so strangely, the solutions that are frequently demanded in the most urgent voice, all converge on a socialist worldview: statism, bigger government, higher taxes, less personal liberty, even fewer people. That bigger picture tells me all that I need to know about “climate science”.

Reply to  theBuckWheat
April 12, 2015 7:10 pm

BW said: “I am waiting peer-reviewed research that shows the optimum climate for our biosphere.”
Clearly BW, the optimum for Earth is a warmer climate than today, with more atmospheric CO2.
OK peers, please review NOW: Agree or disagree – Trolls are not welcome to participate.
Thanks in advance, Allan

Reply to  theBuckWheat
April 12, 2015 7:22 pm

theBuckWheat,
The alarmist clique won’t talk about their climate scare. They tried debating, but they lost every debate. So now it’s ‘science’ by sound bite. That, and people like Michael Mann encourage their lemmings to argue incessantly, while Mann sits in his Ivory Tower, shooting out his tweets calling skeptics names.
Scientific skeptics questioning the carbon scare and runaway man-made global warming (MMGW) have decisively won the scientific debate. So now the purveyors of those false alarms have moved the debate into the political realm, which requires no facts or evidence.
That’s why I constantly ask alarmist posters a simple question: can you produce an empirical, testable, verifiable measurement quantifying the fraction of global warming attributable to human CO2 emissions?
That question has been asked dozens of times, but never once answered. If they cannot even measure what they’re talking about, it must be extremely small, no? And without measurements, no one can possibly prove that MMGW exists.
It’s the same with asking what is the optimum climate, or the ideal temperatire for Planet Earth. Since people tend to migrate to warmer climates, that seems to answer the question. Alaska pays thousands of dollars to residents every year from their oil sales in hopes of promoting immigration. But that’s not nearly enough. Hawaii, OTOH, has a steady influx.
Which brings us to an overarching law of human nature, popularized by the internet:
Fen’s Law:
The Left believes none of the things they lecture the rest of us about.

Reply to  dbstealey
April 12, 2015 7:27 pm

Remember when they preached ‘tolerance’. Today, they are the most intolerant basturds on the planet.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  dbstealey
April 12, 2015 10:58 pm

+1

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  dbstealey
April 13, 2015 12:54 am

Absolutely. In general, they are not predicting man-made global warming, they are actually hoping that thermageddon will come. And come soon.
“If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn’t being political, it is being selfish.” – Phil Jones
I’ve also noticed on a number of occasions that “the pause” or “the hiatus” is talked about in negative terms as problematic, or the very last thing that anybody needed right now.
Hey, it’s a non-rise in global average temperatures during the period in which mankind has emitted 1/3 of the total amount of CO2 produced ever.
So, what I want to know – is when do we get a refund on all the money that was wasted on deployment of immature or experimental technologies.
Why is nobody on the left capable of calming themselves down enough to take a steady look at the RSS global average temps. data and realize that the predicted disaster is doing a fine job of not turning up.
And what they tell us that they see happening can be accounted for as an age old phenomenon called “weather”.
I can only conclude that these people crave catastrophe.
And they will find their catastrophe, even if there is no catastrophe to find.

Reply to  dbstealey
April 13, 2015 1:47 am

“The Left believes none of the things they lecture the rest of us about.”
My momma told me that the people who holler “do as I say, not as I do” are hypocrites and all she had was a high school degree from the 1940’s.

Reply to  dbstealey
April 13, 2015 2:24 am

dbstealey Well said 100% agreement

Dave in Canmore
Reply to  dbstealey
April 13, 2015 7:02 am

“That’s why I constantly ask alarmist posters a simple question: can you produce an empirical, testable, verifiable measurement quantifying the fraction of global warming attributable to human CO2 emissions?”
I notice the contrarians on this blog have left your question unanswered yet again. They seem to have boundless energy for back and forth postings except when it really matters where the rubber meets the road. Their silence is very telling.
This question needs to be asked again and again. So much noise and sideshows are happening while ignoring this most important and fundamental question. This question deserves it’s own post!

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Dave in Canmore
April 13, 2015 7:13 am

Dave in Canmore

This question needs to be asked again and again. So much noise and sideshows are happening while ignoring this most important and fundamental question.

I would add another fundamental question:
What is the probability of each of the following global average temperatures in the year 2100?
+ 0.0 deg C to slight cooling? What are the problems and benefits at each temperature range?
+0.0 to +1.0 deg C? – Great problems for all, no benefits to anyone.
+1.0 to +2.0 deg C? – No problems to any, modest benefits to all.
+2.0 to +3.0 deg C? – No problems to any, greater benefits to all.
+3.0 to +4.0 deg C? – No problems to any, greater benefits to most.
Greater than +4.0 degrees C? – Some problems for a few, much greater benefit to many.

Alan Robertson
April 12, 2015 6:49 pm

Obama’s “climate” edicts are purely political.
But you knew that and smarted off, anyway. Didn’t you.

Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 6:55 pm

Lede sentence: ISIS terrorists continue to butcher people, while hacking into a French television network.
Here I was thinking this was an article about Obama climate policy.
(flush)

Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 7:08 pm

Flushed yourself down the toilet, again?
Yes, it is so hard to keep two thoughts in your half brain cell. The article is about Obama’s fixation on climate change and CO2 to the detriment of other policies and the United States.
Fixation, that psychological stalking illness so similar to trolls pestering and disrupting people discussing topics the trolls neither understand or appreciate.
But that’s a third thought for your half a brain cell…

Brandon Gates
Reply to  ATheoK
April 12, 2015 7:17 pm

Perhaps you’ve confused my disapproval of the message with me not understanding the message. Common malady.

Reply to  ATheoK
April 13, 2015 6:20 am

Brandon, of what in this article do you disagree?
Identifying the bad guys?

Brandon Gates
Reply to  ATheoK
April 13, 2015 12:34 pm

Nope. Read it again. What do ISIS, who I do think are dangerous and evil, have in any way shape or form to do with Obama’s climate policies?

kim
Reply to  ATheoK
April 13, 2015 8:01 pm

Easy, Obama’s actions shaped by ignorant advisers.
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Brandon Gates
Reply to  ATheoK
April 14, 2015 12:07 am

I’d call that facile, not easy.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 7:08 pm

Aids the article’s overall “Nero fiddled while Rome burned” texture, wouldn’t you agree?

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Alan Robertson
April 12, 2015 7:15 pm

I was thinking about Jakarta, not Rome.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Alan Robertson
April 12, 2015 8:46 pm

Obama lived in Jakarta before he came to America. Small world.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Alan Robertson
April 12, 2015 8:51 pm

Bingo.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 8:32 pm

I agree Brandon, there is plenty of emotion on the religious side of this debate. The first two sentences are off subject in my opinion, too.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
April 12, 2015 8:51 pm

Thank you. If we’re to debate/disagree, let’s try to be on point. I’ll go first. You’re WRONG! 🙂

David A
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 9:46 pm

Brandon, if you understand that the first paragraph, not your isolation of one sentence, was about, ““Nero fiddled (with climate change) while Rome burned” then why did you not address that, instead of falsely portraying a non-sequitor by an out of context quote?
many find Obama’s focus to be bizarre.
“On Easter Obama stated…, I do reflect on the fact that as a Christian, I am supposed to love,” Obama said. “And I have to say that sometimes when I listen to less than loving expressions by Christians, I get concerned.”
Obama’s comments came just days after ISIS brutally killed 147 Christian students in Kenya. ISIS terrorists questioned each student and proceeded to release those who admitted to following Islam.
Mark Styn said, “The Potus is a guy who’s happy to draw general lessons when a black youth gets killed in Ferguson, Missouri. That apparently has wide application for black people all over America,” Steyn said. “But 148 black corpses has no general application!”
“Well Mr. President, “You dishonor those Kenyan students in death by not identifying them as Christians, as you dishonored the Egyptians only a couple of weeks earlier.”
In short, his priorities are all messed up.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  David A
April 12, 2015 11:09 pm

David A,
ISIS and French TV hackers (really????) ARE the non sequitur.

David A
Reply to  David A
April 13, 2015 3:18 am

Not at all. They portray a clear and cogent image of a man running around calling tens of thousands of scientists deniers, trying to lay in bureaucratic layers of strangling control over all industry that will affect the GAT not one jot, while negotiating an awful agreement with a backwards dark age death cult trying to develop nuclear weapons. A cogent and spot on analogy which you “A” clearly failed to grasp, or “B” chose to misrepresent with a one sentence out of context quote.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  David A
April 13, 2015 1:28 pm

David A,
Note that not a single thing you’ve said addresses the actual headline of the article itself. You’ve taken the lede sentence and run with it. All you’re doing is building a case against Obama himself — which is fine, I don’t much care for his capabilities as an executive. My point is that an easily accepted “argument” is also easily rejected. Understanding the actual issue the title of this piece advertises is difficult because it is complex with many uncertainties. I don’t have firm conclusions either way, but I’m actually dubious that anything truly meaningful is happening, but for reasons which have nothing to do with ISIS = bad —> Obama not handle ISIS = bad —> Obama climate policy = bad because ISIS not dead.
Red herrings are not the issue. The issue is the issue. I don’t take seriously arguments to the contrary.

David A
Reply to  David A
April 13, 2015 5:22 pm

Brandon says, “David A,
Note that not a single thing you’ve said addresses the actual headline of the article itself. You’ve taken the lede sentence and run with it.”
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Brandon, that is exactly what you did, not me. You quoted the lead sentence, out of context from the rest of the paragraph, voiced your view that it was an irrelevant lead in to the subject, and voiced no opinion on the rest of the article.
I simply pointed out to you that the first two paragraphs portrayed a clear and cogent image of a man running around calling tens of thousands of scientists deniers, trying to lay in bureaucratic layers of strangling control over all industry that will affect the GAT not one jot, al the while ignoring the murder by ISIS of Christians, and making a mountain out of Fergusson and negotiating an awful agreement with a backwards dark age death cult trying to develop nuclear weapons.
A cogent and spot on analogy of poor priorities which I embellished a bit myself. Your out of context quote of one sentence means “A” you clearly failed to grasp the Niro fiddled context, or “B” chose to misrepresent the context as a non sequitur.

kim
Reply to  David A
April 13, 2015 8:03 pm

‘Less than loving’, Wright, Wright, Wright.
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Brandon Gates
Reply to  David A
April 13, 2015 8:18 pm

David A,

Brandon, that is exactly what you did, not me.

Yes of course, on purpose.

You quoted the lead sentence, out of context from the rest of the paragraph, voiced your view that it was an irrelevant lead in to the subject, and voiced no opinion on the rest of the article.

As I said last post, easily accepted = easily dismissed. Which way that goes depends on one’s preconcieved notions of what is true.

I simply pointed out to you that the first two paragraphs portrayed a clear and cogent image of a man running around calling tens of thousands of scientists deniers, trying to lay in bureaucratic layers of strangling control over all industry that will affect the GAT not one jot, al the while ignoring the murder by ISIS of Christians, and making a mountain out of Fergusson and negotiating an awful agreement with a backwards dark age death cult trying to develop nuclear weapons.

So into an already complex topic, now we’ve got three more contentious to the point of intractably acrimonious issues to argue about. I’ll cancel all my appointments for the week.

A cogent and spot on analogy of poor priorities which I embellished a bit myself.

It happens, been known to do it myself.

Your out of context quote of one sentence means “A” you clearly failed to grasp the Niro fiddled context, or “B” chose to misrepresent the context as a non sequitur.

C: I simply don’t agree with the argument. That’s at least the third time I’ve said that on this thread to someone. Why is it so often assumed that someone who disagrees with one’s position must either be a dullard or a liar?
That’s a rhetorical question, by the way. Please don’t think for a moment that I absolve myself of the same mechanism.
Try this if you wish; ask me why I disagree with your interpretation of Driessen’s thesis. Note, however, I’m far more interested in discussing my disapproval of his methods.

David A
Reply to  David A
April 14, 2015 4:31 am

Brandn, what you actually said was,
“Lede sentence: ISIS terrorists continue to butcher people, while hacking into a French television network.
Here I was thinking this was an article about Obama climate policy.
(flush)
==============================================================
I read his as saying the ISIS comment is not relevant to Obama climate policy, so I flush the entire piece.
Now you say,
” C: I simply don’t agree with the argument. That’s at least the third time I’ve said that on this thread to someone. Why is it so often assumed that someone who disagrees with one’s position must either be a dullard or a liar?”
I did not accuse you of being a liar. I said, ““A” you clearly failed to grasp the Niro fiddled context, or “B” chose to misrepresent the context as a non sequitur.”
So, perhaps your poor articulation of what you meant, and not others assumptions, are the main source of confusion. So what do you disagree with? Are you saying you just do not like the Niro Fiddled lead in?
If so that appears to be pedantic, and misses any detailed criticism of the post, which in itself contains six links, which is in my view very solid based on a far more extensive research.
You have a tendency to criticize blog posts, (both main posts, and responses) meant to be a basis of further research for their lack of detail, but are very quick to ignore your own poor articulation.
At any rate I find the Nero fiddled context of the first two paragraphs clear, and did not see your post as an acknowledgement of that context, but as a dismissal of the entire post (flush) based on a pedantic dislike of the lead in. I think that is a shame because their is extensive and detailed reasons to not like the anti-science, pro political power grab of Obama, regarding his climate policy. BTW, Obama’s power grab in climate, has clear context with his power grabs in foreign policy.
If you had simply stated I do not like the lead in because the Niro Fiddled context is in itself a broad subject with many disparate views, and left out the “Flush” I would say nothing. However what you flushed” would perhaps have educated you, or at least others, so I consider your “Flush” to be pedantic and in no way addresses the substance of the post, but could have the affect of dissuading others from proper research.
Your comment about, ” assumed dullardness” is what such a “flush” post projects, and entirely distracts from the head post.. (Which was apparently what you hoped to accomplish)
My hope is that people read the head post, with the links, as it is a very supportable position.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  David A
April 14, 2015 2:02 pm

David A,

Brandn, what you actually said was,
“Lede sentence: ISIS terrorists continue to butcher people, while hacking into a French television network.
Here I was thinking this was an article about Obama climate policy.
(flush)
==============================================================
I read his as saying the ISIS comment is not relevant to Obama climate policy, so I flush the entire piece.

Yes, I’ve noticed that you’re a very literal reader when you’re not reading between the lines.

Now you say,
” C: I simply don’t agree with the argument. That’s at least the third time I’ve said that on this thread to someone. Why is it so often assumed that someone who disagrees with one’s position must either be a dullard or a liar?”
I did not accuse you of being a liar. I said, ““A” you clearly failed to grasp the Niro fiddled context, or “B” chose to misrepresent the context as a non sequitur.”

Yes, which is a choice between crap soup and crap souffle. Fortunately I reserve the right to author my own menu and not limit myself to others’ tactically imposed dichotomies. “C: I simply don’t agree with the argument” is what I selected for my repast, and did so in my original comment well before you arrived to dine with me.

So, perhaps your poor articulation of what you meant, and not others assumptions, are the main source of confusion. So what do you disagree with? Are you saying you just do not like the Niro Fiddled lead in?

I raised my original objection to what Driessen wrote, and it has not changed. While I’ve obviously been coy about exactly what that is, my comments sprinkled about the entire thread should provide somewhat of a breadcrumb trail as to what I’m getting at.

You have a tendency to criticize blog posts, (both main posts, and responses) meant to be a basis of further research for their lack of detail, but are very quick to ignore your own poor articulation.

Not always; I’m often quite explicit and detailed in my objections and arguments. My “poor articulation” here is for effect — it’s a technique designed both to get people to think and to provoke constructive responses. It’s also a welcome respite from writing so many extensively researched, long comments. I do different things at different times because I can, and because I get bored always doing the same thing.
I have my own tactical considerations as well — on an opinion piece such as this one, I’ve often found that dredging up factoids of my own to counter is tedious and ineffectual. Overall I’m happy how this one worked out for me — yours is about the staunchest opposition of everyone who commented. Other posters who have disagreed with me in the past found some things to agree with in my comments.
That is what I was playing for, and that is what I got. I believe that I know quite a bit about what I’m doing here on this thread and why — it’s very VERY deliberate on my part.

Your comment about, ” assumed dullardness” is what such a “flush” post projects, and entirely distracts from the head post.. (Which was apparently what you hoped to accomplish)

Thus we arrive at the point wherein reading me literally has been dispatched, and reading between the lines (AKA, pretending to be able to read my mind) comes to the fore.

My hope is that people read the head post, with the links, as it is a very supportable position.

Boiled down to its essence, your reading of Driessen’s piece is that it says, and I quote you directly: In short, [Obama’s] priorities are all messed up.
I don’t disagree with your reading of Driessen, and consider the Nero reference apt imagery for the argument. I’m mum on the topic of Obama’s priorities — at any given time the US government has countless thousands of irons in its fire, the vast majority of which I’d wager we the public know little to nothing about.
I could, if I wanted the brain-damage, make an extensive list of things I do read about and attempt to rank them. Having done so, I would not insist that my ranking was either well-informed, nor factually correct. I could make compelling arguments to support my case, sure, but it would never leave my mind that what I was doing was expressing an opinion based on my own ideologically biased pre-concevied notions about what I think should be the priorities of our nation — based on a necessarily very very tiny sample of everything which is available to me, which in and of itself is a miniscule portion of the sum total of the activities of the United States government and its agents worldwide.
Driessen picked only but a few. His entire lede paragraph: ISIS terrorists continue to butcher people, while hacking into a French television network. Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons remains on track. In a nation of 320 million people, American businesses hired only 126,000 workers in March, amid a pathetic 62% labor participation rate. Wages and incomes are stagnant.
I opine that few people in their “right” minds would argue that climate change is the more immediately pressing issue than those cited. Certainly not me — the most dire putative hazards of AGW are a long off, on the order of a century to a millennium depending on the specific risk factor being considered.
Follow the breadcrumbs, mayhaps starting over at: Easily accepted is easily dismissed ….

MarkW
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 13, 2015 8:00 am

Brandon, are you being paid to make yourself look dumb? If so, you are underpaid.
The point of that line was to show that we have more important problems.
But then, you already knew that.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 12:25 pm

You are the second person in this thread to confuse opinion with fact in response to my original statement. For as along as I’ve known it, the US government has been capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

milodonharlani
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 12:34 pm

The US government isn’t capable of doing even one thing at a time well.
Except waste money & violate citizens’ rights.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 1:43 pm

How that addresses my argument I’ll never know, but your opinion is noted. My view is that governments define the rights of their citizens, and that a good government is consistent about ensuring that those rights are not infringed upon by other citizens or itself. That we as individuals think we should or should not be granted particular rights by our governing bodies is to be expected, and conflicts are inevitable.
I believe that there are better ways of resolving those disputes than stamping around complaining that the gummint is evil, incompetent and not giving you everything you want.

milodonharlani
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 3:27 pm

The government most certainly does not define human rights. Not in the USA anyway. Our rights are inalienable, ie natural or from God, not from any government, least of all the federal one, created by the people to serve at our pleasure.
Move to Cuba.

Catherine Ronconi
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 3:38 pm

Brandon Gates
April 13, 2015 at 1:43 pm
That government is unspeakably evil should be self-evident. The question is how much of it is a necessary evil. IMO, very little to not much.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 5:57 pm

milodonharlani,

The government most certainly does not define human rights. Not in the USA anyway.

The US government clearly, factually does indeed both prescribe and proscribe the “rights” of its citizens. “Human rights” is something I consider a subtle yet distinctly different subject.

Our rights are inalienable, ie natural or from God, not from any government, least of all the federal one, created by the people to serve at our pleasure.

That’s what’s essentially written in the DoI, and I think it’s a powerful statement indeed. Jefferson was a very nuanced writer and a big champion of separation of church and state. He did not always get his way. But I digress. The very first words of the Constitution as presently in force are “WE THE PEOPLE”.
WE THE PEOPLE do not always agree with each other, which simply cannot be helped.

Move to Cuba.

I’d love to go, but not to live — I prefer constitutional republican democracy to dictatorship. Tell you what though, let’s both take a 1-year holiday: you in Somalia and me in Cuba, and compare notes at the end of it. Assuming we both live to tell our respective tales.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 6:03 pm

Catherine Ronconi,

That government is unspeakably evil should be self-evident.

I wouldn’t quite put it that way, but I’m hard pressed to completely disagree. I’m more prone to statements like: politicians are by and large venal money-grubbing lying sacks of bull excrement; however, even manure does have its uses. So do sacks.

The question is how much of it is a necessary evil.

I’ve already played the Somalia bet to see milodonharlani’s Cuba, but I like where you’re going here, so I’ll take a different tack. Here are my particular definitions of some terms:
0) Morality distinguishes good from evil.
1) Evil is violating the will of another.
2) Good is treating others how one would wish to be treated.
3) One’s first moral duty is to oneself.
4) Ethics is the practice of describing moral values for individuals and groups by attempting to resolve inevitable moral conflicts.
5) Laws codify ethics into enforceable standards.
6) Justice is the practice of enforcing laws.
7) Government is the practice of administering the creation of ethical laws and executing justice on behalf of individuals and groups.
I hold that government arguably does evil because it necessarily violates (1). I also contend that it necessarily does evil because without it, (3) favours the very strong at the expense of the relatively weak, which tends to maximize evil at the expense of good. Que Lord Acton.
I’ll pause there and await response.

icouldahad
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 6:41 pm

Brandon Gates
How does the government
“both prescribe and proscribe the “rights” of its citizens.”
Show me this.
And although Jefferson did believe in a separation of church and state, he was of the mind that the state had no business dallying in church affairs but had no problem with the church calling out the government when it went awry.
You’re spinning makes everyone dizzy.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 7:46 pm

icouldahad,

How does the government “both prescribe and proscribe the “rights” of its citizens.”

My personal experience speaks loudly here. I was thinking of prescriptive easements on property for that case. I was thinking of murder laws as an example of a proscription against the “right” to take another’s life indiscriminately. Prescriptive/proscriptive is probably a better way to think about laws which are based on some set of assumed or stipulated rights, I appreciate you challenging me on it.
It would have been better for me to have said that US Constitution does indeed define both claim rights and liberty rights of US citizens.
I believe that milodonharlani is talking about a different subject, namely the distinction between natural rights and legal rights.

And although Jefferson did believe in a separation of church and state, he was of the mind that the state had no business dallying in church affairs but had no problem with the church calling out the government when it went awry.

Without a specific quote it’s difficult for me to rebut that. At risk of writing words in Jefferson’s quill, I broadly agree with that sentiment. “The church” is just people, and people should be able to call out the actions committed by government officials which they deem wrong according to most of our founders. The 1st Amendment takes some reading between the lines to get that message, though looking into the history of how it ended up being written is something I think is worth doing. I find that story to be another instance of Jefferson not quite getting his way; specifically, my reading is that he wanted it to be very specific that freedom of religion also meant not being compelled to choose a religion.

You’re spinning makes everyone dizzy.

I’ll be darned if I can figure out what you think it is that I’m not telling you.
Aside: Interesting that you find it so easy to speak for everyone.

April 12, 2015 7:23 pm

At the gas station the other day; a woman pulled up to me and said “I like your bumper sticker”. the sticker reads “So Far the Change Sucks”.
Casual quick conversations with strangers and viewing the postings on various sites, just about everybody hates Obama, except for the paid trolls (yes, they do exist) and the low-info public(lots of them).

Brandon Gates
Reply to  kokoda
April 12, 2015 7:34 pm

I don’t hate the man, but I’ve gotten tired of him. He wasn’t ready for the job, it pissed off a lot of his own establishment that he got it. We needed FDR and got Carter. He got a second term because Romney is no Reagan. The Dems have been playing CYA since oh, 2003 and it shows. 2016 will be interesting.

Bill Murphy
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 9:23 pm

“He wasn’t ready for the job… We needed FDR and got Carter. He got a second term because Romney is no Reagan.”
Well put. Although I might have said, “We needed Ike, and got a Saturday Night Live caricature of Carter.” Brilliant orators who are also exceptional managers and also competent politicians and also ‘sexy’ and thus ‘electable’ in this era — like FDR and Reagan — are sadly very, very rare. And I see nothing even close in the top tier on either side this time around. I see inflexible ideologues and waffling, average career politicians, as far as the eye can see.
OT but re some comments above and in the last several threads the past week I’m just catching up on, I appreciate your comments and arguments here. They are nearly always well thought out and referenced to the literature. I often disagree, but usually more in degree than in kind, and typically regarding the quality of the literature; a frequent and important part of the conversation here. It’s a pleasure to debate with you, on the rare occasions when I have the time. (and your “decibels’ comment was the best of the year so far…)

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 11:02 pm

Bill,
I would have taken Ike in a heartbeat. I’m completely with you about the inflexibility of the ideological extremes, both sides of the aisle. Far be it for me to have it all figured out — politics are murky and secretive by design — but it seems we’re in a vicious cycle of becoming polarized as a public, electing reflections of ourselves who once in office pander to what got them there, inflaming passions even more. Lather, rinse, repeat. We must break that cycle. I haven’t a thought in the world how that will actually happen that you should believe, but I’ve been known to tell a good yarn about it from time to time. Mostly I get puzzled stares and a lot of “yabbut, whutabbout, blah blah blah.” I may indeed be a dreamer, but I figure someone has to do it. More and more though, I’m getting cranky and retreat to being a snarky cynic to stave off complete pessimism.
Thanks for your compliments about my posts. They’ve not all been winners I’m sure, and I’m glad you disagree with me, especially if those are the ones that are better thought out. That IS how this is suppose to work by my reckoning. Best regards.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 12, 2015 11:04 pm

PS: yes, decibels I think is my fav as well. There really was only one possible answer to that.

Arsten
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 13, 2015 6:19 am

“The Dems have been playing CYA since oh, 2003 and it shows. 2016 will be interesting.”
Both sides, really, play CYA constantly. A lot of Americans are abandoning the parties and becoming independent because neither party wants to actually address the issues that the voters have. As a result, the Republican and Democratic establishments are moving rapidly away from being useful for the population in terms of what their platforms are doing. On top of that, both parties are beholden to corporate requests that the voters find distasteful.
Most Americans, if there is an issue, would like to see ideas brought about to fix that issue. For instance, if CAGW is an issue (as it may have been in the early 90s), then they would want to see solutions that aren’t just tax grabs – they want to see what the government will spend on and how it will affect them and the issue at hand. What they get is, instead, a lot of long-winded BS about feelings and the poor from one side and constitutional framers on the other.
Instead they get legislation like magazine limits that are supposed to somehow reduce the damage at mass shootings. Every voter knows that reloading an automatic or semi-automatic weapon is a process you can practice down to a few seconds. So what has this sort of legislation done? Nothing effective – but it did give one side a way to go “We are helping! Look! Look! We passed something!” and the other side to denounce the legislation as “Against the founding fathers.”
The process is reversed for things like the ACA, where one side passes bill after bill to repeal to say that they have done something and the other side whines about the poor.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 13, 2015 1:09 pm

Arsten,

Both sides, really, play CYA constantly.

Sure. When I wrote that I was thinking specifically of the neocons, whose main excellence was circling the wagons — CYA en masse if you will. Very effective if the policies implemented by such a united body are effective. My view is that they failed spectacularly. As a liberal, my lament is that the Democratic party has been severely divided, especially since Obama first won the nomination and general election, thereby failing to capitalize on the neocon meltdown. I think it would be much worse for them if Republicans had managed to put themselves back together.

A lot of Americans are abandoning the parties and becoming independent because neither party wants to actually address the issues that the voters have.

Ever since I was able, I’ve never registered as anything but independent. In the beginning that was because I knew I didn’t know enough to decide. Later I realized that part of my inability to decide was that each party’s platforms are riddled with self-contradictions. More recently I have come to believe that this is because the collective we are often so at odds with each other, but not in the exact same way. Trying to condense down the disparate views, wants and needs into two choices can’t help but fail to be internally consistent.
Multi-party parlimentary forms of government look messy and complicated to US eyes, especially when an election results in a coalition government. However, I argue that such a situation may be more truly representative of the underlying wishes of the electorate.
As I see it, the more pressing problem in the US is the ever increasing influence of special interests. Extreme ideologues on either side are not selling anything I find palatable, and I very much do not like it that such a small minority of well-feathered financiers can have such an outsized influence on propping up candidates or planks favourable to their own gravy train.
I’m a liberal yes, but the radical left is both bonkers and well-funded. This is not good. I don’t believe that the far right is the correct antidote either.

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Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 13, 2015 1:11 pm

Arsten
Your second paragraph applies almost word for word to the UK, too.
We have a budget deficit this year equal to £4 borrowed for every man, woman and chid in the country – every day – including today and Christmas Day.
The world is not notably safer or more stable than five or ten years ago – AQAP, Putin, Fat Boy Kim, Boko Haram, and the Houthis leap violently to mind.
London is almost drowning under Houses of Multiple Occupation – with a room costing a thousand dollars a month in some areas; and back garden sheds used for putting up workers [many believed to be migrants].
And ‘deficit elimination’, ‘defence’ and ‘housing’ hardly get a mention [and if there are mentioned, it’s a soundbite, not a considered policy.
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Brandon Gates
Reply to  Brandon Gates
April 13, 2015 1:11 pm

See … parliamentary forms of gummint are so strange to my eyes that I can’t even spell the damn word correctly …

Andrew N
Reply to  kokoda
April 12, 2015 9:13 pm

My favourite bumper sticker is “PETA – People Eating Tasty Animals”

April 12, 2015 7:29 pm

It would be easy to keep it about science, but people like Mann and Hansen, and organizations like The IPCC have made it all about politics, so someone has to fight fire with fire.

William Astley
April 12, 2015 7:32 pm

Good summary of some of the key issues for the next US election.
There is a rumor that Hillary Clinton is a closet conservative, a realist, a thinker. Some say she will do what makes sense, if it makes sense for the US. It is a fact that there is no CAGW problem to solve. Regardless spending money or worst forcing money to be spent using EPA regulations to block what does make sense is madness. The green scams do not work.
A leader must understand what is and is not a problem. A leader must understand what will and will not work to solve the US problems.
The US has run out of money to spend on everything. The economic problem is a lack of good paying jobs which is due to structural problems and the spending problem. See Japan, France, and Spain for what to expect next. Japan is at the end, of the end of the process. Japanese accumulated debt is at 250% of GDP.

Reply to  William Astley
April 12, 2015 7:46 pm

No way, Hillary is a progressive of the worst kind. She will continue the stuff Obama started (and Woodrow Wilson started way back when).

ferdberple
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 8:27 pm

Hillary Clinton: Businesses Don’t Create Jobs
Don’t let anybody, don’t let anybody tell you that, ah, you know, it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.

Garfy
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 9:58 pm

if you him , no problem, you can have him instead of Hillary – I mean “françois hollande” – event before 2017 – it’s a gilft, please don’t refuse

Leonard Lane
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 12, 2015 11:02 pm

And FDR magnified, LBJ ballooned, and Obama made transformational changes.

MarkW
Reply to  William Astley
April 13, 2015 8:02 am

The woman who was kicked off the Senate’s Watergate committee because she was too partisan and dishonest is a closet conservative?
I don’t think so.

Mac the Knife
Reply to  MarkW
April 13, 2015 11:52 am

She was fired because she withheld evidence and made ‘con-flicting statements’ to the lead Watergate investigator, Jerry Zeifman, general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee in 1974.
Hillary Rodham’s 1974 Watergate “Procedures were Ethically Flawed”
“By Jerry Zeifman
IN December 1974, as general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, I made a personal evaluation of Hillary Rodham (now Mrs. Clinton), a member of the staff we had gathered for our impeachment inquiry on President Richard Nixon. I decided that I could not recommend her for any future position of public or private trust. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925684/posts

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