An actual email from the “Are you now, or have you ever been a member of any anti-science organization?” department and Barack Obama’s “Organizing for Action” front.
Friend —
It’s tough out there for climate change deniers.
One by one, literally every argument and excuse they’ve been using for years is being proven false.
They’re still grasping at myths and conspiracy theories, but deniers are on the run.
Let’s keep them there — join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers.
In reality, the debate on the basics is over.
Not only do 97 percent of climate scientists agree that climate change is real and man-made, but new reports are showing climate and extreme weather impacts are affecting us right now.
Droughts, floods, wildfires, and storms are hitting communities from California to the East Coast, and we’re already spending hundreds of billions on climate-related disaster relief — no one is denying that.
Instead, what you hear from climate change deniers are mostly excuses for not taking action. Some have hidden behind foreign countries, saying America can’t or shouldn’t lead on climate until someone else goes first.
Let’s set aside for a minute that this isn’t actually how we solve global problems. The fact is, President Obama is leading internationally through agreements with China and India to cut carbon pollution and expand the use of clean energy. (So there goes that denier talking point…)
Another thing you might hear from a denier is that we simply can’t get serious about cutting carbon pollution without destroying the economy. That’s just false. For example, the climate and public health benefits from President Obama’s Clean Power Plan outweigh the costs by at least six times.
Maybe deniers doubt we have the will and ingenuity to take such a huge problem on. Well, the American people are proving them wrong: Since 2009, we’ve increased solar power ten-fold and tripled wind power. Hundreds of thousands of Americans work in clean energy today.
The arguments from deniers are getting more and more ludicrous.
We have the facts on our side — and we have to drive that message home. Because as long as deniers and polluters are blocking progress, we’re not doing all we can to combat climate change.
Say you’ll help take them to task — join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers:
http://my.barackobama.com/Expose-Climate-Change-Deniers
Thanks,
Ivan
Ivan Frishberg
Senior Climate Advisor
Organizing for Action
[h/t to: TheLastDemocrat]
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Still don’t get the point, do they? Few deny that climate changes. Many question it’s causes and what it’s actual course has been, and the kneejerk legislation masquerading as assurance of it’s future control. Some pretend to know it’s future course and will work as long as the funding holds out, to try and match current events of weather to the doom-saying that, if moderated, would hold the attention of only a few on the fringes of science.
I saw well chosen rhetoric here, glossing over a hidden agenda, with no actual data presented or cited.
Actually Dawtgtomis, I think they know exactly what they are doing and part of that is to keep repeating their ridiculous mantras until the naive, after hearing it so often, will believe it to be true. To my thinking, they have collected and organized their talking points so, like little robots, they are all regurgitating the much same nonsense.
When you attempt to communicate with them, the response is nearly always some version of “Na-Na-Na-Na, I can’t hear you, you denier.”
In short, how could an intelligent person possibly communicate with someone who believes that there are accurate records of global temperatures (to the hundredth of a degree) from the early 1900s (or late 1800s) or even in 2014? That thinking alone tells you all you need to know about the person’s intelligence and reasoning ability.
Should read, “they are all regurgitating much the same nonsense.”
Repeating a lie is classic propaganda.
If you like your Global Warming, you can keep your Global Warming…
thanks, made me laugh
So the President is allowing bigots to invoke his name. Sad.
We can’t call ISIS Islamic, we can hardly can call them terrorists, we certainly can’t make a cartoon of the profit (sic), but we sure can call people who disagree with us “deniers.”
President of the willing, Mocker of the rest.
I notice that Mr. Frishberg doesn’t provide any links to back up his claims.
I wonder why not.
Unless of course he can’t because there aren’t any.
That w.w.w. stuff is for computer nerds, not Patriots. (Uh-huh, sarc 😉
They know who we are. They know where we live. But we be few and they be many.
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Oh, man, Kim, for laughing out loud. DON’T WORRY.
“They” can barely balance their checkbook, much less figure out where “we” are.
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And, they really aren’t “many.” Most people do not give one rat’s toothbrush about “climate change.” That’s why Ivan is screaming his lungs out. People keep just brushing past him on the sidewalk, bumping into his plastic chair, and giving him dirty looks for getting in their way. Just laugh and ignore him (and “them”).
plus 800,000 bad returns in first charge out of the health care chute – it’s a rodeo
Trouble is, everybody needs to pay attention to the UN and climate resolutions. Nip the madness in the bud.
I thought that Kim was just taking the mickey! It made me laugh as it turned that silly threat around.
Having seen Ivan’s website I reckon he is guilty of hate speech. But in the land of the free it seems he is free to be a bigot.
Does someone need to start making a list of climate fraudsters, for when the world wakes up to this scam?
Obama et al would have to be near the top.
Oh no! “new reports are showing climate and extreme weather impacts are affecting us right now!”
As opposed to my youth when there were no climate or extreme weather impacts;) Not actionable lies, just idiot fodder.
Note my use of an emoticon. I saw another new report which proved that those who use emoticons have more sex and I figured it couldn’t hurt, much;)
Ah, yes. Those sacrine flavored days of my youth, when the sun was shining and the weather was sweet. And never a cloud darkened my day. How I’ve missed them so. Can’t we all spare a dime (or 30, minimum) for our dear Brother Ivan, So he can bring back those perfect days.
Also, 🙂 🙂 😀 :o) :] :3 :c) :> =] 8) =) :} :^) :っ) 😀 8-D 8D x-D xD X-D XD =-D =D =-3 =3 B^D 😉 🙁 :p x_x >^_^_<
#(:))
Unfortunately, it’s only a matter of time before people will begin to be arrested for sedition and/or incitement to riot for posting actual data showing the stability of the global climate or for supporting the view that CAGW is not factual.
That’s when the second American Revolution starts.
I am a “denier” because I read the real peer reviewed science, the ones that give their sources and references, Wonder how he derived the 97% and what was the actual question that they were asked.
Glad I do not deny that climate has changed, is changing and will change…
It’s so characteristic of the totalitarian, Orwellian US administration to out right lie to the public.
By facts on their side do they refer to the 17 year plateau? Or perhaps do they refer to the IPCC themselves distancing themselves from the CO2 extreme weather link which they push in this piece of effluent.
They must still be using the debunked 97% consensus figure just to piss off the skeptics.
I see his climate policy is as clever as his Middle Eastern policy.
Often times bad policy doesn’t blow up around your ears before you even get out of office, unless it’s especially stupid.
But his technique for persecuting opponents is clever, if malevolent.
…vs. how many jobs lost in the fossil fuels sector and green tech. related job exports? Not to mention government programs cut in order to fund climate research.
…does this include the carbon credit brokers as well?
I got a survey about green jobs. It includes trash collection and dealing with regulations as “green”–not exactly productive work, eh?
Regressing back to medieval times. Guess we skeptics should all be hunted down and burned at the stake. (Climate denial witches! Climate denial witches!) Sounds as though they’re getting to that stage.
They already are, as in prosecuting people using frivolous lawsuits. ( like Steyn is and others are on that list as well)
Obama’s one good initiative. Sock it to ’em!
Have to admit that when he’s getting rolled by China and India on climate negotiations he’s doing less harm than when his getting rolled on really important foreign policy decisions.
If the US was bound to follow his agreements it would be economic disaster. Fortunately we are not so bound, and will not follow them.
Memo:-
From:- Gaia Gestapo HQ
To:- All Earthian eco apparatchiks
By the order of the Earth Fuehrer Collective, the eco- einzatsgruppen are ready for action mein kameraden!
GREEN HEIL! GREEN HEIL!
My reply to Ivan:
Just a lurker here and my comment is not very relevant to the conversation. Although i have always used “winkle” to describe a male’s lower appendage, I haven’t heard or read anyone else use it for over 50 years. .
The green economy is really like the earth being held up by four Elephants standing up on the back of a Turtle being supported by lies. And it’s Lies all the way down from there
We have facts on our side. Our facts refuse to be paraded in public. Instead of exposing them, we would rather expose our opponents – and anybody who is not 100% with us is our opponent.
Fellow Americans, hunt down
fellow denier Americans.
Divide and conquer.
And, fortunately, the response of the “average American” will be:
“Yo — Ivan. Keep it down over there, we’re tryin’ to watch the game.”
Bwah, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaa!
This is just alarmist desperation. They saw the results of the 2014 election and they know what is coming in 2016.
If they didn’t seem to be enjoying their exalted status so much, I might feel sorry for them.
Instead I despise them.
I’ll have to bite my tongue now, seeing as this a family-oriented blog.
I get what you’re saying, u.k.(us), however…. take a step back and think about it.
They, in the grand scheme of things, are dust. And their “glory” is fading as we speak.
You CAN do the one thing they hate most in the world:
IGNORE THEM.
They LOVE to be screamed at — they feed off your anger. Attention, per se, feeds their bloated egos.
I-G-N-O-R-E T-H-E-M.
Like you do the cow pie in the field across the road.
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Yes, yes, they can reform and once again join the human race and we will welcome them back — until then, they are making dung piles of themselves and should be treated accordingly.
Hi Janice, it’s been awhile…
Ummm, you say ignore them, and also they like to be screamed at.
I say give them no quarter and grind them into the dust, problem solved.
The only thing that gives me pause, is my motivations.
The letter sounds like a desperate attempt to keep the dopes duped.
(or should that be “the duped dopes”? 😎
BOTH! Clever!