[on Jan 1, 2015] “In Rome, arctic-inspired winds brought temperatures as low as minus eight degrees Celsius,” says this video by David DuByne. “Palermo woke up under a white blanket,”Dozens of cars are trapped in snows towards Tripoli.”
Meanwhile in Norway, they had to remove snow from below the chairlifts because there was too much snow. One worker said they’ve had more snow in the past two days than they’ve had in the last two years combined.
“These are the same conditions that were experienced during the Dalton and Maunder Minimums,” says David.
In Rome, arctic-inspired winds brought temperatures as low as minus eight degrees Celsius. Palermo woke up under a white blanket. Dozens of cars are trapped in snows towards Tripoli.
Documentary of what Happened during the Little Ice Age 1600-1850’S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzvyT…
Italy Snows
http://www.euronews.com/2014/12/31/bl…
Southern Italy is experiencing unusually wintry weather. In Rome, arctic-inspired winds brought temperatures as low as minus eight degrees Celsius. For the first time in almost 20 years, cities such as Palermo woke up under a white blanket. It even reached as far as Sardinia.
Greek Snows
Experts estimate that the cold will continue until the New Year, and snow is expected even in coastal areas. Due to the intense snowfall in many parts of the country, the use of snow chains has become necessary in many places.
Reportedly, dozens of cars are trapped for the last 2.5 hours near the tunnel of Artemisium, in the direction towards Tripoli, due to the snow.
http://en.protothema.gr/dozens-of-car…
Romania Snows
Heavy snowfalls and blizzard affected 18 counties in Southern and South Eastern Romania. Many national roads and three highways were closed while large numbers of villages were left without electricity.
Romania issued a code red blizzard warning for three counties as the country was hit by thick snow and high winds on Monday (December 29). Thirty-three passengers on one bus journeying between the Moldovian capital Chisinau and Romania’s Bucharest had to be rescued by emergency services when the vehicle tipped over as visibility neared zero in Buzau.
http://www.euronews.com/2014/01/25/sn…
Turkey Snowfalls
The heavy snowfall is expected to cause major disruption in Bilecik city and the surrounding area, Sakarya, Kocaeli, Bursa, Eskişehir in Marmara region; Çankırı in the Central Anatolia region; Rize and Artvin in the Black Sea region; Bitlis, Şırnak, Mardin, Batman, and Siirt in the Southeastern Anatolia region.
http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2014…
Norway Removes excessive snows from slopes
20 Dec 2014 – “During the last two days we’ve got more snow than we had in the last two years together,” says a victorious Vegar Sårheim. “I had never believed we would experience this.”
We have received about 1.5 meters of snow in a short period of time. And the forecast until Christmas is that there will come much more. So once we have cleared away this snow, we will face a fantastic Christmas.
http://www.firda.no/Dette_skisenteret…
Ukraine 7 Russian Snows Dec 18-30
Cold weather has killed 37 people in Ukraine so far this month as temperatures reached minus 23 Celsius in parts of the former Soviet republic. Night temperatures are expected to drop to -28C in northern, central and eastern Ukraine this week. The cold snap followed heavy snowfall which left some areas covered with as much as 53 cm (21 inches) of snow. Cars were blocked for 18 kilometres (11 miles) overnight on Saturday on the main road between the capital Kiev and Lviv, officials said.
Blizzards near the western Ukrainian city of Brody
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pictu…
http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/12/…
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/cae69…
http://www.euronews.com/tag/snowfall/
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2244834
h/t to David at http://iceagenow.info
We all should take a moment and remember all the poor folks in the Southern Hemisphere. Perihelion is upon us, and the folks living down under best lay on the sunscreen just a bit heavier than usual.
With perihelion occurring within 2 weeks of the SH Summer Solstice, the Southern Hemisphere sea ice anomaly is near 1.665 Million Km Sq, with increased albedo and reflection of the Sun’s energy back into space.
Perihelion? Doesn’t that happen every year? Is AGW making it worse?
The big “A” always makes everything worse. Man is a parasite on Ma Gaea. Man is not natural. Haven’t you been listening to the Kool-Aid? It’s being served everywhere. 😎
Of course it does, just like the SH Summer Solstice. A current meme of the climate fearosphere is that the growing Southern Hemisphere sea ice anomaly doesn’t matter at all, since the ice maximum happens during SH winter solstice. If Steig, Tamino and a host of others were interested at all in the truth, then they would be talking about this aspect of the global sea ice anomaly, but instead they bend the truth with “facts” and omissions of relevant information. Facts are not truth, but merely facets of the truth.
Enjoying the sunshine down here on the beach in Sydney at 29C max and clear blue sea at 23.5 C. Mind you our fellow South Australians are having temps up to 43C.
Half of the USA is covered in snow, with temperatures below freezing, but global warming is causing climate change?
Now, who is denying what?
I believe they have a word to describe the snow covering and the below freezing temps…..
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Winter
That throwaway comment ignores the fact that winter snow extent has been steadily climbing:
And of course, anyone with a 5th grade knowledge of geography would understand that snow in Sicily is unusual outside of the mountains.
Once again, Planet Earth debunks the alarmist cult.
Anomaly data shows a different picture
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/assessments/assess_97/fig18.gif
For a really cold winter you need bright sky and dry air. The open waters at Arctic probably enhance snowcover on land. Now if Arctic freezes again in MY ice, the winters may also become colder with less snow.
Anomalies are not trends. Big difference. Note the trend above.
Anomalies show trends.
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Like this
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/uah/plot/uah/trend
So now not only “weather is not Climate” but “seasons are not Climate”?
Both are not warming because of Global Warming?
interesting how things have changed since 1997 eh. so the anomaly shows quite a dramatic increase (more than the earlier decrease) in nh winter snow over the last 18 years, while global temps stopped warming.
DS,
your anomaly graph stops.at 1997.
I wonder why??? Do tell us the reason!
David, your plot ends in 97, just before the beginning of the pause. Its not about it being an anomaly rather than absolute data. They’re just offset. The numbers on the side are different, not the slope.
“David Socrates
January 3, 2015 at 7:32 am
I believe they have a word to describe the snow covering and the below freezing temps…..
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Winter”
I believe they have a word to describe the lack of snow and the above freezing temps…..
SUMMER!
Robert B and David Smith
The graph I posted shows four seasons as opposed to the “winter” graph provided by Mr dbstealey.
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The point I was trying to make is that you need to look at year round data, and not just three months out of the year. The reason for this is because at high latitudes, there are some places that only snow free during a few weeks in the summer. Would have been nice if the graph continued until today. .
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This one covers more time, but still has all four seasons instead of only one.
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http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/images/anom_nhland.gif
David, the autumn and winter snow extents are increasing while the spring and summer show decreasing trends. The overall for the last 25 years is a 0 trend (positive 1000 km2/year) although it appears to be much larger on your plot.
Why was the trend negative during the 80s and positive since 1990? Nobody is arguing that the world has shown signs of warming since the 19th century. The argument is about whether we are seeing evidence of CAGW (or even just AGW). The negative trend should have increased with each decade to use it as evidence of CAGW. Picking a starting point in the 70s which was probably a maximum for the late 20th century isn’t exactly providing evidence.
And your point? Snow in strange places is no more a sign of over decades cooling trends than my 40-50 degree weather here in SE Michigan for Christmas is about global warming when the year before we were buried in snow or PRECIPITATION, which was predicted by climate scientists in a full U.S. report. The long term trend for warming remains. Intelligent human beings know there has never been same climate worldwide EVER even during the earlier Arctic warming period and subsequent little ice age. Climate differed regionally. Global warming is causing climate CHANGE and that’s what you just depicted Watts, weird climate change.
Thank you for yet more proof of CLIMATE CHANGE! The average person out here doesn’t give a hoot what you want to call it cool or warm, it exists. You just showed that.
Pitch Perfect satire. You played the deluded hysteric better than most of the alarmists could do. Congratulations.
I think there is overwhelming evidence that the climate did not start changing until it was noticed when people were given large funding to play amateur statisticians with computers.
So I guess in that regard you could say climate change is completely man-made.
@V. Rogers:
I challenge you to NAME ONE scientific skeptic here who has ever said that the climate doesn’t change.
Your rhetoric is pure BS. It is typical deflection, trying to falsely paint scientific skeptics into a corner. Skeptics have never said the climate doesn’t change, so quit the deception. You are not being honest.
Skeptics know the climate always changes — unlike your HE-RO Michael Mann, who preposterously argued that global temperatures were essentially flat, up until the industrial revolution [the long, flat handle of Mann’s Hokey Stick chart]. It is Mann who claims the climate never changed — not skeptics.
And people like YOU believe him! That says a lot about your credulity.
A weirdo. (I know that you people hate being called an alarmist or warmist).
Completely bonkers. – no warming in 16 years -you forgot your sarc tag Rogers.
V. Rogers, please show me ONE claim made in the above post?
Secondly, the trend of northern hemisphere WINTER snow is up since 1967.
Now read these warmer winter with less snow predictions. Yes you are right, “The average person out here doesn’t give a hoot what you want to call” global warming, they know the scientists failed yet again to make a correct prediction. Children won’t know what snow is. FAIL.
Oooops! I messed up the blockquotes. Sorry.
We love you V. Rogers
You’re always welcome here at WUWT.
To remind us of how Warmists think.
Thank you.
Climate has been CHANGING since Earth formed, V. Your epic fail is lack of a link to man’s activities.
Come up with the link and we’ll give you some credibility. Until then, you’ve got nothing.
But, It’s the Alarmists who deny Climate Change. The point is, it always has.
As part of its attempt to refute arguments against AGW put by Geology Professor, Ian Plimer, in his book “How to Get Expelled from School”, the former Australian Government Department of Climate Change has admitted that the underlying historical basis for the Global Warming Theory has been misread. On page 32 of their .pdf, they note that ice core records show that, for the last 800,000 years, atmospheric C02 rises have followed heating events rather than being their cause. Since the average time lag is 800 years, it is likely that the “high” levels of C02 measured at present have resulted from the Mediaeval Warming period some 800 years ago rather than present-day human activity. See http://www.climatechange.gov.au/sites/climatechange/files/documents/03_2013/prof-plimer-answers.pdf
it does seem unusual that the earth rockets from ice age to interglacial when CO2 levels bottom out. And when CO2 levels get high, the interglacial’s gradually start cooling.to ice age conditions.
there was a time 60 years ago when global cooling was blamed on increased CO2. then when things started warming up all the scientists changed the minus signs to plus signs in their equations (not hard to do) and told us they had been right all along.
Well, radiative gases are the atmosphere’s primary cooling mechanism, but I wouldn’t consider CO2 to be that powerful at cooling.
It is amazing how Government organizations can change their story when the Government changes its policy.
NewSpeak
Don’t go in for the next mini ice age hysteria any more than the AGW hysteria. Although there hasn’t been any warming in recent years there hasn’t been any cooling either. Let’s talk about it in ten years.
I’ll be glad to put off talking about it for 10 years, Grant, if the Warmists keep their goddam hands out of my pockets for 10 years.
I’m hoping you are correct but 10 years isn’t enough. By then we will be about 2/3rds of the way through the negative phase of the PDO so we’ll actually have a 50 year sine wave to look at for full cycle averages. The satellite era has been great for getting information but it has only covered the positive half of the PDO so the averages are all skewed higher.
That said our little interglacial is overdue for a correction. Our max temps have not been has high as the previous one but our duration has been much longer. The dominant attractor in our little semi-chaotic system is cold so any time now it could start or it could kick in after 3000 AD. We just don’t know. Short of opening up Panama again we’re SOL.
Anyone else see Wiley Coyote here? http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_images2/english/current/winter/400×300/us__snowcover.gif
Yep, his head and nose is in Idaho and Oregon!
Imagine how much warmer it would be today if not for the ravages of global warming
They say first snow in Palermo for 20 years. But here is snow in Palermo, 2009.
So what?
…answer that, Nick:
So what?
Man-made global warming is a crock. Prove that wrong.
“So what?”
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“anyone with a 5th grade knowledge of geography would understand that snow in Sicily is unusual”
(ref: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/03/snow-in-palermo-sicily/#comment-1827717 )
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Nick proves you wrong again
I could go back to my search page and easily prove that snow in Sicily is unusual. But facts are like water off a duck’s back for Sockrates, so what’s the use?
Go back to school, socks. Can’t hurt. Might help.
And I told Nick to prove me wrong. Neither Nick nor you has ever been able to do that.
From Nick’s six year old link:
Snow, which is very unusual in Palermo, has been visible for days on the mountains outside the city, where residents traditionally go if they want snow.
It’s always amusing when a link refutes the linker…
David Socrates
Discerning that a weather event happened twice in 6 years does not mean such weather is not “unusual”.
Nick Stokes provided evidence that the above article is mistaken in its claim that the snow in Palermo is the first for 20 years.
Unfortunately for Nick Stokes, your daft comment has distracted from his evidenced comment.
Richard
R Courtney
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“Discerning that a weather event happened twice in 6 years does not mean such weather is not “unusual”.
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It depends on how you define “unusual”
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For example, if a weather event has never happened somewhere, that can be considered “unusual”
Everyone please note. the year, feb. 2009 The winter of 2008-9 if I remember, was harsh, Cold snow ice. Not just in the US it now seems So it was, as with this winter; climate not mere weather. Also note where this date is in regards to solar cycle 23-24
All things are interconnected. Also thank you Nick for catching the error in the article and further proof of the absence of AGW. Though that was not your intent.
michael
Wiki (on Palermo) quantifies what is meant by ‘unusual’ (but without reference or clarity):
“Snow is rare but not impossible. From the late 40s and the early 2000s it snowed eight times.”
You forgot to add that its not so weird.
You had better hope this does not become a trend! 😊
CAGW will be measured in FEET not inches 2015. More “proof” of climate change when the weather repeats past cycles. Yes, it must be Unprecedented”
Now a cynic might suggest that in natural weather cycles, after a period of warming over bodies of water that some amounts of water vapour would be ready to condense out of the atmosphere, especially as that air body moves into a cooler region of the planet.
But that would be anti-climatoscience, as those of the consensus assure us natural cycles have been overridden by that magic gas.
Is it just me or is the cooler weather bringing out a crescendo of desperation?
Geologists, anyone ?
I was looking at the satellite images around Palermo, noticed some interesting sea floor features, followed westwards and came across a ‘giant eight lane highway’.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/MedHW.jpg
Joking apart, it looks as the Med is splitting, but this is some distance from the known tectonic plates fault line. Inset (red circle) shows approximate location. I would like to know more about the feature, but brief web search didn’t offer any info.
Does anyone know of a paper, article or any other information ?
I think in reality that is not there, that is some sort of artificial thing in the image produced by the google
Very unlikely.
I hope a geologist would comment.
Likely ship soundings that yield more detailed bathymetry information than the surrounding data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanclean_flood
S.w.a.g, this may help. the highway is in the path. No I’m not a geologist,
michael
tl;dr summary: On track to be the hottest year evar!!!
I wonder which gets snow more often, FL or Sicily?
In North Florida, snow is not that uncommon. South Florida, South of Lake Okeechobee, is below the frost line and snow hear is extremely rare. Hard freezes are rare yet more common than snow. I’ve been in Hollywood, Florida since 1964 and I’ve seen hard freezes in the 60’s , 70s, 80s. None in the 90s. 2010 had two hard freezes, in January then again the following December.(Global Warming no doubt.)
The snow day happened in January, 1977. All of us 11th grade Geometry students ran outside to see the flurry. Just wisps, it didn’t stick to the ground. The next morning there was about an inch of snow on Cars and fence rails, but all on the ground had melted. We’ve had frost a few times, and a hard freeze about once per decade. But snow, only once in my 50 years here.
Reblogged this on The Next Grand Minimum and commented:
“These are the same conditions that were experienced during the Dalton and Maunder Minimums,”
Weather not Climate.
It’s always something somewhere. It is neither a sign of Thermogeddon nor of Ragnorak.
Let’s not be alarmist.
I was wondering when someone would speak up, thanks!.
Extreme weather is fairly common and not proof of anything. We can start talking about Dalton/Maunder similarities after a 10 year cooling trend.
One of the worst starts ever for skiing in the PNW. Hoping for another good spring.
Absolutely.
Local weather is weather, climate is a different thing. No sign of Maunder minimum in temperature statistics, even if Tunisian children learned what snos is.
s/snos/snow/g
It has been terribly cold here on the Southern California coastal plane. High temperature the other day was a mere 10C, and the overnight low was about 5C. Brrrr. And the poor drum majorettes at the Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena had to muster in sub-freezing temperatures, with the temperature at the beginning of the parade reported as 0C.
But it’s just weather, not climate. I guess if we have 30-60, years of this extreme weather, we might be able to call it climate.
Its all about heat redistribution and lower insolation of the LIA has been correlated lower poleward flows. The LIA was not a period of persistent cold but of extreme weather variability. The greatest variability was during the last major ice age and the Dansgaard-Oeschger events. More persistent blocking high pressure systems can create extreme cold in the winter but extreme heat in the summer. The message from the LIA is cold not warmth causes weather extremes. The global average obscures the real issue, and CO2 warmistas will mistakenly blame more variable weather on warming and CO2 climate disruption even though Michael Mann himself has published that the hallmark of the LIA was extreme weather variability.
C’mon Jim, catch up.
As V. Rogers pointed out (above,) it’s weird climate change… Climate Weirding.
Climate disruption is sooo 2011.
That’s weird. I’ll try to keep up.;-)
Anyone not notice the correlation between climate change and sugar consumption? It’s worse than they thought. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-01-scientific-team-alarm-sugar-source.html
This snow isn’t going to kill the palm trees.
In Mediterranean climate one can get freezing weather in winter [even in the other seasons] and palm trees have seen snow in the past and will continue to see it in the future.
And therefore is has nothing to do with changes in climate- it’s weather.
That climate or weather “experts” in recent past claimed your future would not have snow or snow would be rarer in the future, simply bought the religion that earth is getting hotter.
Earth is not getting hotter and it will not get hotter- and only wacky pseudo science suggests this is possible.
The global warming we had over the last century or so, is a recovery from centuries long cool period called the Little Ice Age. Before the Little Ice Age there was centuries long warm period similar our recent warm period. The recent warm period has lasted more than one century and likely to continue for another century or more.
Our recent warming and the Little Ice Age did not change global climate, but rather there has been and will continue to be fluctuations in climate and these fluctuations occur regardless of century long warming and cooling periods.
The most noticeable changes during cool periods like the Little Ice age is that glaciers in temperate regions advance, and they retreat during the warmer centuries.
Such advance or retreat of glacier will have significant local effect on temperature, but regions not near glaciers the change in temperatures noticeable. Or one can have hot summers in the Little Ice Age and can get very cold winters in warm periods. Or the decade long fluctuation of local climate and daily variations in weather have larger changes that one will notice.
The warmer or cooler centuries will effect the average starting of growing season of a regions- or globally- the ground thaws and becomes warmer so one grow crops.
And because warming period tend to allow longer growing season, farming tends to be more successful and food is more abundant and are times in human history or prosperity. Whereas the Dark ages were less favorable to growing crop and one had higher food prices and more people starving.
ScienceDaily is repeating an article on the IPCC Synthesis Report from Nov 2, 2014 as if it is today’s news. I haven’t noticed them repeat old news on their front page before. I guess they had nothing new to counter the current reports of cold and snow. So with the beginning of a new year, they decided to reinforce the “irreversible” nature of climate change by repeating old news about the IPCC’s gloom and doom report. But on what basis did the IPCC determine that “the amount of snow and ice has diminished”? Ice reached record extents in the south recently and is overall above average. Is there any evidence that “snow” has diminished? Here is the quote I am referring to:
Louis,
That just means that 800K years ago, CO2 was higher than now.
That was before SUV’s — and the higher CO2 levels didn’t cause any problems then, just like it isn’t causing any problems now.
Thomas Stocker needs to get a real job. And the UN/IPCC needs to be disbanded.
So, if CO2 levels were higher in the past, it must not have been an “irreversible” event and must not have caused run-away global warming, or we wouldn’t be here today. But what about the IPCC’s claim that the amount of snow and ice has diminished? Is there a measurement for world-wide snowfall, and has it diminished?
I don’t believe the ice core record shows CO2 to ever been much above 300 ppm in the past 800,000 years.
So, cherry-picking only the limited ice core record? Typical deflection. Here is a much better perspective:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cHhMa7ARDDg/SoxiDu0taDI/AAAAAAAABFI/Z2yuZCWtzvc/s1600/Geocarb%2BIII-Mine-03.jpg
CO2 has been up to twenty times today’s [extremely low] level, with no ‘runaway global warming’, or any other CO2-related problems.
Alarmists are the mole in Whack-A-Mole: every time one of their factoids is whacked, they pop up with another equally stupid factoid.
But that’s OK, I like Whack-A-Mole! ☺
This is fun
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If you examine ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/climate_forcing/trace_gases/phanerozoic_co2.txt which your chart is showing……
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It says…
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DESCRIPTION:
Berner and Kothavala 2001 GEOCARB III revised model of Phanerozoic atmospheric CO2.
Calculated paleolevels of atmospheric CO2 from the GEOCARB III model, which
models the carbon cycle on long time scales (here a 30 million year resolution). ”
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You are charing MODEL OUTPUT !!!
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You’re busted
Charing? I think you are busted.
Perhaps you need an ESL course?
agreed, there should have been no recovery from higher levels of co2. continental shift is what is usually offered up as a reason why our earth survived, but it doesnt hold water.
there are papers around somewhere that show higher levels 5k years ago, there are even papers that show higher levels in 1940s!. that is because the current levels are since 1960s pinned on to the ice core record. they pin it on like they pin the thermometer record onto tree ring proxies. ie with no regard for error margins or reality.
the paper about the 1940s also show earlier levels much higher. this is from actual measurement-
http://www.philosophical-investigations.org/Historical_CO2_levels?sendfile=true&file=co2-analysis.jpg
the papers is http://icecap.us/images/uploads/EE_18-2_Beck.pdf
the rebuttal by noaa just says that beck didnt do it properly etc as usual with this sort of thing, looking at regional monthly averaged etc, but the truth is, i think both ice core and chemical measurements are unlikely to tell a true story. the upcoming results of the new satellite measurements should be interesting if they are not tortured the way most data seems to be these days.
Speaking of ice cores, sock rats, these show warming (beginning of interglacial) is associated with low CO2 levels and cooling (return to ice age) with higher CO2.
How about that!
Mpainter.
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Nowhere in the ice core record do you see CO2 much above 300 ppm
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We’re crossing 400 ppm at present.
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How abut that !
Philjourdan,
I humbly beg your forgiveness. I sincerely apologize for my error in mistyping the word “charting” and instead typing charring. I appreciate your diligence in recognizing this error of mine. My spell checker accepted the typographical error on my part, and without people like you, I’m sure a lot of “i’s” would not get dotted, and a lot a “t’s” not get their cross.
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Again, thanks for your proofreading, I don’t know what I would do with out it.
Sounds kind of like a lame attempt at obfuscation since you misspelled your original misspelling in your feeble mea culpa.
Soxie sez:
Nowhere in the ice core record do you see CO2 much above 300 ppm
This is fun! Let’s ALL cherry-pick our time frames so they stop at 740K years ago. Then we can show anything.
See how it works, folks? Confirmation bias and cherry-picking. That’s all it takes to be a True Believer.
Dbstealey says: “CO2 has been up to twenty times today’s……..the computer models PROVE it “
Which means that we are heading for another ice age, socks rats. And after all, do not you global warmers proclaim that our ever more severe winters are due to increasing CO2? Fools that you are.
Sorry to say but he has a real job as a Physics professor at the University of Bern (Switzerland). And just now he works as an travel courier as well… 😉
See here on page 7:
http://www.schweizerfamilie.ch/fileadmin/dokumente/leserreisen/antarktis/Brosch_Antarktis_2015_SF.PDF
Stocker wrote,: “sea level has risen and the concentration of carbon dioxide has increased to a level unprecedented in at least the last 800,000 years”
Stocker’s deceptive tactic was linking “sea level rising” and unprecedented CO2 levels for 800k bp in the same sentence. There is ample evidence throughout the Pacific, in geologically stable regions, that sea level was higher just a few thousand years ago, as much as 6 feet higher during the Holocene Optimum when CO2 levels were much lower.
I remember reading about another extremely cold winter in Europe. I’m speaking about the winter of 1939/1940, but that was because of the World War – http://www.2030climate.com/a2005/02_11-Dateien/02_11.html. There have been other cold winters, this year it seems we have a very snowy winter, even in regions where snow is pretty rare.
Sudden increases in temperature of the upper stratosphere.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat-trop/gif_files/time_pres_WAVE1_MEAN_OND_NH_2014.gif
http://oi58.tinypic.com/16bzk1j.jpg
The documentary on the LIA was interesting. Towards the end, though, they just had to go and ruin it with their absurd theories about how the warming during the MWP may have caused a shutting down of the THC, creating the conditions of the LIA. Then, they launched into how, because of our CO2 emissions, we might cause the same thing to happen. So, it went from documentary to crockumentary. Still worth watching though.
Bruce, if they’re claiming that the warming of the MWP caused the LIA cooling and that it might happen again with today’s warming, wouldn’t that be a negative feedback? And wouldn’t that be counter to their argument that the current warming is irreversible?
On the other hand, it allows them to have it both ways. If it warms, it will be due to global warming. If the climate cools and enters another little ice age, that too will be due to global warming shutting down the THC. Either way they will feel justified for their alarmism, and either way they will blame human CO2 emissions. Blaming humans is all they really care about, anyway.
With apologies for being, well, sceptical – but I can’t find any record in the past week of temperatures in Rome below -1C. Where has the -8C figure come from? Is it referenced anywhere?