Eric Worrall writes:
General Secretary of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon has announced that countries have not lived up to their responsibility to give him and his teams of bureaucrats more money.
According to The Guardian;
“The world’s action has not so far matched its responsibilities, said UN secretary-general at Lima summit on climate change
…
“Ban said there was still a chance of limiting global warming to an internationally agreed ceiling of 2C above pre-industrial times in the hope of limiting floods, droughts, desertification and rising sea levels.
“But the window of opportunity is fast narrowing,” he told the delegates of about 190 nations.
“This is not a time for tinkering; it is a time for transformation,” he said. Despite signs of progress he is “deeply concerned that our collective action does not match our common responsibilities.
“We must act now,” he said.
….
Ban urged developed nations to “meet and exceed” a goal set in 2009 of mobilising at least $100bn a year, in public and private finance, by 2020 to help developing nations.
Ban Ki-moon didn’t explain, in the Guardian article, how giving him and his bureaucrats more money would help prevent global warming. Presumably the donors, once parted with their money, wouldn’t be able to afford as much gas for their cars, which might reduce their carbon footprint. However, given that UN eco-warriors seem to spend a lot of their time flying between climate conferences, their enlarged carbon footprints might more than compensate for the poverty constricted carbon footprints of the taxpayers who are paying their bills.
I bet the scammers are jostling for position to get a part of this loot stream when it starts flowing good…coming out of your very own pockets too…
If all the money was taken off each and every climate alarmist, the UN would have every cent they need to fix the problem. I suggest starting with Mr Moon’s bank accounts, all of them.
What is endlessly frustrating is that we have the capacity to reduce CO2 emissions significantly without having to flirt with economic disaster. The technology that allows this harnesses the nuclear process, preferably through developing the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor, though there are other solutions that might be worth pursuing such as the Small Modular Reactor.
The UN should recognise this and provide genuine leadership for the long term to the benefit of all mankind by advocating an international programme to develop and deploy such answers. Instead it has brought into the ‘we are all doomed drivel’ that is the stock in trade of the environmental movement. There is little to say about this other than it is pathetic. Mankind has the ability to deal with the problems of his own making, unfortunately that requires both strategic thinking and effort to overcome many of the false inhibitions that limit the will to do what is necessary.
Even so, the United Nations is the only body that can do this, though regrettably the abilities of those within its ranks, often supremely talented individuals, are all too often defeated by bureaucratic inertia, the efforts of well funded determined lobbyists or suborned by the chance of personal gain. Despite these reservations it should be recognised that the UN does deal with international problems whose solutions are beyond the scope of individual countries. Those who call for its dismantling are neglecting these contributions, though I do understand the sentiment. The UN can do better. It needs to do better. To do so it should stop acting as a shill for fanatics and represent the hopes for all mankind, which after all was its primary goal.
No one has to reduce CO2 emissions as CO2 has next to no affect on global warming, if any.
The whole UN IPCC is a political agenda, and nothing else.
I’m not sure where you’ve found “supremely talented” people at the UN. Are they working in the group that decided to appoint Zimbabwe’s genocidal President Mugabe as Ambassador for Tourism, or were they the ones responsible for the election of Iran to the Commission on the Status of Women? Perhaps they’re the geniuses at the WMO who arbitrarily defined climate as the average weather conditions over a 30 year period, despite the knowledge that there are quasi-cyclic phenomena that create changes which persist for decades.
The world would be a better place if the UN and it’s collectivist, anti-American agenda were relegated to the ash heap of history.
Maybe this sounds good to some, but have you considered the metallurgy of a reactor cooled with a liquid sodium salt?
An alternative? Burn coal.
Give me a break. Right now in winter, when my wife, our dog or I walk just twelve feet from our cold kitchen conservatory into our warm lounge, we experience a temperature difference of fifteen degrees Celsius. As I am reliably informed that civilization is unable to adapt to even a two degree difference, our household will perish. All domestic species that live here are threatened with extinction. Unless, that is, Ki-moon can raise enough financial support and give us fifty pounds towards a replacement conservatory radiator.
As our conservatory is so cold, as an interim measure, I’ve removed the screw tops of 30 x 2 litre bottles of lemonade and lined them all up on the floor – hoping that those little evil effervescent bubbles of fizzy gas will escape and warm us all up.
Sadly, as I type this, I notice that the escaped CO2 has caused the water level in our dishwasher to rise, escape from the door seal and flood our kitchen floor. Armageddon.
(Sarc Off)
Yes, the UN Fund starts by funding an extra layer of bureaucracy as it does with in all its agencies. There are some good agencies who deal with emergencies but those supposedly dealing with the climate change are wasteful
All Governments should follow the example of Australia and NOT provide the requested money into Mr Moon’s fund, but manage any programs they think important themselves — directly. That way there will be much less waste, money will be targeted where it is most likely to do some good, and the People of each country can ultimately have a say because they can vote out governments that waste their money (at least that is the theory).
The UN Development Goal has been asking developed nations for 0.7% of their GDP ever since I was a kid.
Andrew Bolt summarized this quite well
The same old dream.
Read the rest
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_copenhagen_con_same_demand_different_excuse/P40/
These constant demands for money to line the pockets of these carpetbaggers reminds me of the song “Do that to me one more time, once is never enough..”
“Give me a break. Right now in winter, when my wife, our dog or I walk just twelve feet from our cold kitchen conservatory into our warm lounge, we experience a temperature difference of fifteen degrees Celsius. As I am reliably informed that civilization is unable to adapt to even a two degree difference, our household will perish.”
Now that is really silly. A world where it’s an average of two degrees warmer means some places such as Australia will get heatwaves that are more than two degrees warmer on top of the extreme hot temps we are getting now during our recent record hot Summer temps.
You sound very defensive Martin.
Reminds me of Python’s ‘Four Yorkshire men’ sketch – if you want ‘really silly’:
“Of course we had it tough. Two degrees warmer on top of Australia’s already extreme hot temps. Luxury. We would dream of living in Australia. We used to wake up every morning in a cold sceptic tank, have 400 ton of rotting polar bears poured over us, lick road clean with tongue, pay pit owner permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle – if we were lucky.”
It’s called weather Martin – and no amount of money or CO2 reduction will make a blind bit of difference to Australia’s heatwave, the snow in the USA, the UK Indian summers – or Yorkshire wind and rain.
Note: See that I replied directly to your comment.
“…and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle – if we were lucky.”
…Luxury.
Yeh Klem, and you try and tell the warmists today and they won’t believe you.
Cue another brilliant Python Sketch – The Cheese Shop in the style of our faithful WUWT ‘denier’ community . . . .
“Well, how about a little heat hiding in the deep oceans then?”
“Not today sir – but we were expecting it next week”
“Er, unprecedented flooding?”
“No”
“Er, tell me something. Do you have any warming at all?”
“Yes sir”
“Splendid, I’ll have some of that then”
“Oh”
“What?”
“The cat’s eaten it”
“Um, not my day is it”
“You haven’t asked me about 2014 being the hottest year since records began”
“Is it worth it?”
“Could Be”
“Ok, I’m game, is 2014 going to be the hottest year since records began?”
“No sir”
“Yes, I suppose it was foolish for an alarmist like me to pose the question in the first place. Ok, let’s keep it simple, how about an enormously vast amount of naughty extra man-made carbon di-oxide up there in the atmosphere then, you know, loads and loads and loads of the stuff, lots and lots of it. Buckets of it?”
“Not much call for man-made CO2 sir. As a fraction, CO2 is only 1/2,500th of all the total air in the sky, and about 95% of that CO2 is entirely naturally occurring sir. Maybe I can interest you in some Nitrogen, got quite a bit of that”
“Nitrogen eh?”
“Yes sir”
etc, etc.
Martin, can you reminds us how a global average is calculated?
Yeah, right Martin.
I live in Melbourne. If I want to see what my world will be like with 3 degree warming I only have to drive less than 24 hrs north to Sydney.
Wow, place is flooded (or a partched desert) and full of corpses.
You’re an idiot and they shouldn’t let you out.
In 8 hours I can drive to where it is usually 10-15 degrees higher, sometimes a lot higher than Perth
Martin is an idiot if he thinks Aussies don’t read this.
Oh yeah – summer started last week. On Friday it was more like a dismal winter day than summer, it was worrying because my daughters wedding was next day and we had been having rain and cold weather all week.
Summer did turn up to [make it a nice] warm spring day for the wedding – though still waiting for a good summer’s day though..
The UN and EU bureaucracies are like cancerous growths.
Every year these bureaucracies grow, require more funding and do less. They are obsessed with their own growth and the top bureaucrats will do or say anything to accelerate this. They are run by people who do not have a clue about good business practices and are riddled with cronyism.
Ecolunacy is exploited by these bureaucracies, as it acts a major stimulus for their growth.
Christiana Figures said a few days ago that the price had gone up. She was talking the equivalent of $6 trillion a year.
Obama will, no doubt, offer at least half of this (please impeach him for treason USA).
I trust the good old UK will pay the Chinese and Iindians to reduce our CO2 by taking the last of our industry.
That being the case we should get a discount on our contribution, Abundant cheap or free energy from wind and solar will, as we all know, massively increase our wealth. With all this in mind perhaps the UK (who invented industrialisation) could limit its annual payments to say 200 billion per annum.
I am sure that Ed Davey will, in the words of the reviled Jimmy Saville, ‘fix it’ for the UK once and for all.
I have been reading some of the discussion posts by warmists at Lima. The most frightening thing (as a career engineer as well as former Chartered Environmentalist) I have ever heard in my life is these people discussing energy. They have not a clue, they are in a dream world they share with Banky and our two ‘Ed’s..
I agree that we have only a short time to save man and civilisation, perhaps 2 years. This is not from climate change (except possibly from freezing), but from the complete collapse in energy and food production that these fools are rushing towards.
Unless governments stand up for real science, integrity and sanity billions will die of cold and starvation.
Wake up world, the UN was a massive fraud from day one. The respectable veneer is the type of cover LIARS make for themselves.One of the mottoes of their Fabian founders is “above all else, appear respectable.” The UN are finally revealing their true colours and they are distinctly RED. The goal of the Fabians was to continue the “work” of Karl Marx. One World Government is their goal. Oh dear, the leaders are unelected. Nice of them to tell us. The cat is out of the bag- the UN itself is a massive fraud.
I am always amazed at how well some people are paid who provide little to no value. It is like evolution working in reverse or meritocracy turned on its head where class and wealth privilege supersede talent or ability. Ban Ki-moon appears to be an example of this.
Christiana Figueres certainly is.
The UN collects folks who have achieved their “Peter Principle”, they have risen to their level of incompetence. The UN is unique in that their folks can rise to “Super Peter” status where they are not only incompetent but able to do harm worldwide. Sadly this is not sarcasm.
the best)only) good thing about Bishops funding promise is that it isnt “new” money but outta foriegn aid funds already allocated
and
the got cut a lot:-0-
I noticed bleeding heart Milne managed to get her sorry whingeing butt there as well
wonder what taxpayer fund she suckered for that?
How long must we suffer, under the yoke of these unelected tyrants?
as at Copenhagen, the less-developed Countries are standing together and standing firm, no matter how the MSM spins the facts. however, the annual $100bn and free transfer of technology will not happen minus a multi- trillion-dollar-a-year carbon dioxide emissions trading scheme, so best we call the whole CAGW scam off and end these talkfests & get down to dealing with the pressing domestic concerns facing all nations. carbon dioxide is not an enemy to be defeated, period:
10 Dec: Times of India: Lima climate talks: India tells rich nations not to use disasters as tools to make profit
by Vishwa Mohan
Addressing the gathering of ministers and key representatives of many countries, the Indian environment minister also sought not to clear only his country’s priority and development paradigm but also of most of the developing countries which need to grow economically to deal with the problem of abject poverty…
***”If we believe that the global warming threat is real, then we must deliver on the agreed commitments as a matter of priority. It is important therefore for developed country parties to urgently fulfill their legal obligations in the pre-2020 period. They must scale up their mitigation ambition now and urgently fulfill their promises for providing financial and technological support to developing countries”…
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/environment/global-warming/Lima-climate-talks-India-tells-rich-nations-not-to-use-disasters-as-tools-to-make-profit/articleshow/45444797.cms
9 Dec: Economic Times India: Lima COP20: Deep divides on key issues
by Vishwa Mohan
The developing countries including India and China are on the same page on both the key issues of adaptation and review. They have sought inclusion of adaptation in the final deal and strongly opposed to review of their actions arguing that these will be the “nationally determined” contributions where there should not be any role of second party from outside.
Indian environment minister Prakash Javadekar and Xie Zhenhua, vice chairman, NDRC, China met on Monday and pledged to take common stand on these issues during the remaining four days of negotiation process…
The BASIC nations (Brazil, South Africa, India and China) too held a meeting separately where ministers resolved to move unitedly on key issues of adaptation, technology transfer and climate finance to achieve an ambitious and positive outcome of the talks in Lima, while preserving and strengthening the unity of developing countries to protect their common interests…
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/environment/the-good-earth/lima-cop20-deep-divides-on-key-issues/articleshow/45436856.cms
I*t’s hard to remember back to the days when Dag Hammarskjold was head of the U.N. In those days the U.N. was a somewhat respected Institution. Hammarskjold was murdered and the U.N. decline began. Now it is a sort of International Mafia Organization.
A good point. He was the best General Secretary the UN ever had.
You guys are too inflexible. The right approach is to have a special global warming soft loan fund. The loans can be tied to performance parameters, such as achieving democracy, a low corruption rating, a commitment to provide women’s education and equal rights for everybody, regardless of religion, ethnic background, etc. These loans can be used to build hydropower plants, transmission grids, and if applicable a small amout of wind power. If hydro isn’t feasible then the money can be spent on high thermodynamic efficiency coal plants. Isn’t this a much better idea?
Not more money for the poor. Not more money for world peace. More money to be wasted (line the pockets of corrupt politicians and lazy scientists). That is some kind of message, and should be enshrined above their doors for all to see – how the UN is a waste of money, time, and carbon.
The reasons both Lima and Paris will largely fail are:
1-Failure to agree on mandatory $100B(+)/year agreement
2-Failure to achieve binding CO2 reductions for ALL nations
3-Failure to require validation checks on CO2 reductions
4-Failure to address vast BRICs nation CO2 emissions
5-Failure to redefine China as an Annex I country
For starters. But they will declare both conferences successes anyway.
“UN chief: give me more money”
It’s time for the United States to withdraw from the United Nations and evict them from their headquarters in New York City.
I’m sure that there are many other great cities who would be glad to host them. Pyongyang, for example.
The choice is simple.
1) Can we live with a warmer world?
or
2 ) Can we live with a world where we are controlled by a privileged few who limit our energy use and deny our freedoms.
The most worthless entity on the planet right now not named climate model.
LogosWrench, I’m not too certain about that. What about the gullible minions out there right now, feverishly posting on every news item, blog post, and youtube video that is the slightest bit about “climate change”, the ones who think nothing of calling me a “Denier” and imply that I’m one of the stupidest people on the planet, while simultaneously screaming that sea level rise is “dangerously accelerating”, we’re in the “warmest few years since MILLIONS of years ago”, somehow think hurricanes and tornadoes are at the highest, weirdest levels ever, and think the UN is a pristine, lily-white pure organization dedicated to global equality, peace, and love?
Ok but it’s up there. ☺
At least PBS would send you the DVD, companion book or music CD for your donation…..
How many divisions does this UN have?
It’s funny hot the window of opportunity. NEVER actually closes. Even Ban Ki-Moon likes to keep it open. Here are a few examples from the link provided.
Surrender your middle class, or else!
He’s proposing a vise architecture with the elite (and bureaucrats) and “poor” (and poor) forming opposing jaws that compress everyone in the middle. It would be nice to talk about the real issues and their likely causes, but that is not on the agenda, ever. Meanwhile, the Chinese are colonizing Africa with some positive effects as other colonials before them.